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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
171
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:31:00 -
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I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.
Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?
Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it? |

Pipa Porto
1150
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:31:00 -
[512] - Quote
Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I went jetcan hunting last night. Not a single skiff in all of Lonetrek or the Forge and very few hulks. Its at lest 90% Macks out there. If you try to find me then you're in wrong area...
Doing things to be contrary does not make your arguments any less idiotic. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Lord Zim
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:33:00 -
[513] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.
Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?
Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it? "hurr you just shoot people in hisec because they don't shoot back durr no actually on second thought I don't know what the **** **** I'm spewing all aboard the derpmobile" Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Pipa Porto
1150
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:34:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec. And that's the problem.
Quote:Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?
Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?
I've heard stories that some people enjoy multiple different styles of gameplay. Where has anyone said that ganking is the only thing they do? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

baltec1
Bat Country
2380
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:37:00 -
[515] - Quote
Xen Solarus wrote:I think you'll find that the "cold harsh universe" is everywhere but highsec.
Ever tried doing some pvp elsewhere?
Oh wait.... don't they shoot back there? Yeah, sod that, best go gank noobs in highsec to make yourself look awesome. EvE is much better with easy-mode on, isn't it?
Yet you defend the Mack that requires no tank mods at all to be safe from most gankers. Irony much? |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:49:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:"hurr you just shoot people in hisec because they don't shoot back durr no actually on second thought I don't know what the **** **** I'm spewing all aboard the derpmobile"
If you don't want miners to shoot back then you don't want to find me. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Yes, I am going to go ratting all the time to fund a gank campain that will lose me all my isk on miners while we are fighting a war  War? Lol. Nobody will ever attack Goon space (70% of nullsec). Seems you are just as clueless over whats going on in 0.0 as everything else Quote:Where it is stated that suicide ganking exhumers should be profitable? Quote and link. Liar.
Where is it stated that it shouldnt be?
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads. brb |

Lord Zim
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:56:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads. So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:58:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters?
If you can profitable gank empty freighter/JF then probably yse. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2380
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:59:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.
No they stated ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. |

Lord Zim
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:01:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Lord Zim wrote:So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters? If you can profitable gank empty freighter/JF then probably yse. So what you're saying is, all CCP had to do to "fix exhumer ganking" by making it "impossible to make it profitable" would've been to remove the salvage drop when salvaging the wreck?
Interesting how that wasn't what CCP did, then. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2380
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:01:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads. So, next up on the hisec safetry train is industrials, transporters, orcas, freighters and jumpfreighters?
Also every single combat ship and the salvage boats and shuttles. We cant have them beeing gankable for profit if they fit no tank. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:02:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:No ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely.
Then you shouldn't be whining when you get GCC and I shoot some RF PP at you. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2380
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:04:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:No ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. Then you shouldn't be whining when you get GCC and I shoot some RF PP at you.
I dont. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:05:00 -
[525] - Quote
Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:No ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. Then you shouldn't be whining when you get GCC and I shoot some RF PP at you.
Sense. You don't make it. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Lord Zim
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:05:00 -
[526] - Quote
Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:No ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. Then you shouldn't be whining when you get GCC and I shoot some RF PP at you. You mean something less efficient than what concord is going to do anyways?
Sure sounds like something to whine about. I mean whoa, he might die after ganking someone, this certainly would be a shock to his system. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
99
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:06:00 -
[527] - Quote
Sort of surprised ISD40 hasn't turned up here yet... |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:07:00 -
[528] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Sense. You don't make it.
Nullbears: "Hisec is risk free carebear land! No place for elite pvper." |

Lord Zim
1597
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:07:00 -
[529] - Quote
Weiland Taur wrote: Sort of surprised ISD40 hasn't turned up here yet...
Hastur Hastur Hastur Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:13:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Sense. You don't make it. Nullbears: "Hisec is risk free carebear land! No place for elite pvper."
You're wrong on both counts. Highsec was never meant to be risk free & most of us don't claim to be elite. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
99
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:16:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Weiland Taur wrote: Sort of surprised ISD40 hasn't turned up here yet...
Hastur Hastur Hastur
Awesome. |

Lord Zim
1598
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:24:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Sense. You don't make it. Nullbears: "Hisec is risk free carebear land! No place for elite pvper." So you've tried the "you're all botters" routine, the "nobody'd attack goonspace" routine, the "you support botting" routine, the "every miner is a newbie" routine, the internet toughguy routine, and now the "nullbear/elite pvper" routine.
What's next? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2381
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:27:00 -
[533] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Sense. You don't make it. Nullbears: "Hisec is risk free carebear land! No place for elite pvper." So you've tried the "you're all botters" routine, the "nobody'd attack goonspace" routine, the "you support botting" routine, the "every miner is a newbie" routine, the "I'm an internet toughguy" routine, and now the "nullbear/elite pvper" routine. What's next? Taking a stab in the dark here but I think we can garentee it won't be him being right about something. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:31:00 -
[534] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.
No they stated ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely.
You can change the words as much as you want, in the end you'll stay on your position and I, on my own. Witch leads me to this answer: just find officer fitted mackinaws and they will be profitable again.
brb |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
99
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:36:00 -
[535] - Quote
I thought Goons had given up on ganking Miners (secret agreement with james315) and were focusing soley on freighters now? |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:37:00 -
[536] - Quote
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.
No they stated ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. You can change the words as much as you want, in the end you'll stay on your position and I, on my own. Witch leads me to this answer: just find officer fitted mackinaws and they will be profitable again.
They don't need to fit a tank at all now, which is the point we're getting at. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:37:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Sense. You don't make it. Nullbears: "Hisec is risk free carebear land! No place for elite pvper." You're wrong on both counts. Highsec was never meant to be risk free & most of us don't claim to be elite.
Then what is this "hisec miners generate risk free isk" whine?
Especially when gankers refuse to bring that risk to hisec because they would lose money doing it.
Can you prove you shoot targets that shoot back. For example in that "war" someone mentioned. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:38:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote: I thought Goons had given up on ganking Miners (secret agreement with james315) and were focusing soley on freighters now?
This isn't about what we gank, it's about game balance for everyone. The mining barge buff made AFK mining a risk-free activity & they don't even need to fit a tank anymore. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2382
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Weiland Taur wrote: I thought Goons had given up on ganking Miners (secret agreement with james315) and were focusing soley on freighters now?
This isn't about what we gank, it's about game balance for everyone. The mining barge buff made AFK mining a risk-free activity & they don't even need to fit a tank anymore.
As a result the bots are swamping highsec again which is not only destroying miners profits but also causing the price of plex to shoot up as hundreds of bots come online. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 12:44:00 -
[540] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
CCP stated themselves suicide ganking was never intended to be profitable, just read dev logs about mining barges buff and figure out at the beginning this tactic was intended as tool for assets denial, but was never intended to be profitable. Your reality about profitable gank is just a symptom of a greater illness.
Let me repeat it again for you: ganking was never intended to be profitable. And I'm sure your a big boy enough to find CCP official stand point about this on mining barges threads.
No they stated ganking a hull should never be profitable and I agree with them. Ganking a fitted ship however is something else entirely. You can change the words as much as you want, in the end you'll stay on your position and I, on my own. Witch leads me to this answer: just find officer fitted mackinaws and they will be profitable again. They don't need to fit a tank at all now, which is the point we're getting at.
They do need a tank and they do fit it, that's why you are all crying. brb |
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