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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
180
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:35:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Far more effective to blow them up, pod them and then report them.
You don't report bots. You want to keep them in the game for easy isk farming. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2359
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:36:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Far more effective to blow them up, pod them and then report them. You don't report bots. You want to keep them in the game for easy isk farming.
Your track record of being wrong with every post is still untarnished. |

March rabbit
R.I.P. Revenge
255
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:48:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Skydell wrote:baltec1 wrote:
But that doesnt mean that we will let mining suffer another decline or allow fleets of mining bots to once again take over.
You should try reporting them like everyone else. Far more effective to blow them up, pod them and then report them. so it's your choice to kill, pod, whatever. It is not needed but "far more effective".
And you want it to be profitable too? 

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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:20:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:baltec1 wrote:Skydell wrote:baltec1 wrote:
But that doesnt mean that we will let mining suffer another decline or allow fleets of mining bots to once again take over.
You should try reporting them like everyone else. Far more effective to blow them up, pod them and then report them. so it's your choice to kill, pod, whatever. It is not needed but "far more effective". And you want it to be profitable too?  
He want the stupid miner who does not tank his exhuer to be profitable. Not the one who used his braincell to tank it. Well it would make sense that way. If even the tanked one is profitable to gank, then **** this ****... |

baltec1
Bat Country
2359
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:47:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
He want the stupid miner who does not tank his exhuer to be profitable. Not the one who used his braincell to tank it. Well it would make sense that way. If even the tanked one is profitable to gank, then **** this ****...
This.
Last thing I want is for barges to be profitable to kill no matter what you do. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2012.10.04 17:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Last thing I want is for barges to be profitable to kill no matter what you do.
You do it to teach people.
Miner tanks his ship -> "Don't fit tank mods. It's not a combat ship!" Miner doesn't tank his ship -> "L2tank" |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9719
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:00:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Miner tanks his ship -> "Don't fit tank mods. It's not a combat ship!" GǪexcept that no-one has ever told miners not to fit tank mods. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1322
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:31:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:Last thing I want is for barges to be profitable to kill no matter what you do. You do it to teach people. Miner tanks his ship -> "Don't fit tank mods. It's not a combat ship!" Miner doesn't tank his ship -> "L2tank" No one (except maybe a moron miner) has told miners not to fit a tank.
If a miner gets ganked even with a decent tank, its because they were ganked for lolz/revenge and not much could have prevented it (aside from not mining, which is only recommended if you think you should be invincible). |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
183
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Posted - 2012.10.04 18:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Miner tanks his ship -> "Don't fit tank mods. It's not a combat ship!" GǪexcept that no-one has ever told miners not to fit tank mods.
All best known gankers keep saying I shouldn't be able tank my ships since it makes their job more difficult.
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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:32:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Tippia wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Miner tanks his ship -> "Don't fit tank mods. It's not a combat ship!" GǪexcept that no-one has ever told miners not to fit tank mods. All best known gankers keep saying I shouldn't be able tank my ships since it makes their job more difficult.
No they say your ship should not be tanked just by default. Leaving all slots empty should not meant your exhumer is tanked. Putting DC II, shield extender and stuff like that should meant your exhumer is tanked. |

TharOkha
0asis Group
92
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Posted - 2012.10.04 19:41:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote: No they say your ship should not be tanked just by default. Leaving all slots empty should not meant your exhumer is tanked
Battleships used in L4 missions are also tanked by default againist catalyst (all slots empty). Now are you going to whine that "nerf BS HP because they shouldnt be tanked just by default? GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1313
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:06:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote: No they say your ship should not be tanked just by default. Leaving all slots empty should not meant your exhumer is tanked
Battleships used in L4 missions are also tanked by default againist catalyst (all slots empty). Now are you going to whine that "nerf BS HP because they shouldnt be tanked just by default? You just want to sit in high-sec all day and activate modules on targets that won't shoot back for profit in easy-mode.
Sounds like a familiar mantra to me... He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
226
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Posted - 2012.10.04 20:59:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:baltec wrote:...more waffle about TANKING to prevent the GANKING... s'pose MinerMan tanks like you say he should. ganking still gonna be unprofitable. what then? then he got too many slots? so i'm guessing this entire "make my gank easy" charade is purely for educational purposes? unless... you displaying a new kind of stupid for telling miners to tank in a "i can't gank anymore sob" whiney thread. Or maby, just maby, I like the fact that smart miners get the reward and stupid miners get punished. Just like everything else in this game. educational purposes it is then.
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captain foivos
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:52:00 -
[194] - Quote
THANKS FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL GANKING BUFFS YOU ADDED TO HIGHSEC GREYSCALE
WAIT NO THOSE ARE ALL NERFS
AGAIN |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1320
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Posted - 2012.10.04 21:57:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:THANKS FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL GANKING BUFFS YOU ADDED TO HIGHSEC GREYSCALE
WAIT NO THOSE ARE ALL NERFS
AGAIN Well, when you want to eradicate a nuisance you are always best advised to fight it on two separate fronts.
That $17 lottery payout keeps looking smaller and smaller...
CCP Greyscale: Conflict Driver of the Year! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
773
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:04:00 -
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GetSirrus wrote:Oh, gankers have been trying to drive Hulks out of hi-sec by killing them in numbers for how long? The chorus has been loud "tanking your exhumer will deter ganking". Well congratulate yourselves gankers, you won - hulks are an endangered species in hi-sec and miners are flying tanked. Mission Accomplished.
What she said. We don't see Hulks anymore, mission accomplished. Actually mining ships can still be gank but you need a little bit more than a 7YO kid behind the computer flying daddy catalyst and knowing where F1 on the keyboard is and hit it.

But don't worry, there's always Kitty Online for those worderful children. brb |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1322
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:12:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:GetSirrus wrote:Oh, gankers have been trying to drive Hulks out of hi-sec by killing them in numbers for how long? The chorus has been loud "tanking your exhumer will deter ganking". Well congratulate yourselves gankers, you won - hulks are an endangered species in hi-sec and miners are flying tanked. Mission Accomplished. What she said. We don't see Hulks anymore, mission accomplished. Actually mining ships can still be gank but you need a little bit more than a 7YO kid behind the computer flying daddy catalyst and knowing where F1 on the keyboard is and hit it.  But don't worry, there's always Kitty Online for those worderful children. The same could be said of every single miner coming back to Eve for Hello Mackinaw online.
"Daddy's macky out in the belty welty press f1 sweetie. No don't worry, you're safe."
Those children apparently belong in Eve high-sec. After all, Hello Kitty Online might be too tough for them.  He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
773
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:24:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:Update: CCP has once again shat on ganking in order to turn highsec into a risk-free carebear paradise.
Yes please explain us why is free risk and also why you don't move to low/null/WH. I know why: you actually like to be safe behind actual high sec aggression mechanics and Concord so you don't loose your uber boat.
Well, sorry for you dude. You'll have to adapt or die, eventually ragequit or just assume consequences of your choices from now on.
It was time. brb |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
773
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:26:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:GetSirrus wrote:Oh, gankers have been trying to drive Hulks out of hi-sec by killing them in numbers for how long? The chorus has been loud "tanking your exhumer will deter ganking". Well congratulate yourselves gankers, you won - hulks are an endangered species in hi-sec and miners are flying tanked. Mission Accomplished. What she said. We don't see Hulks anymore, mission accomplished. Actually mining ships can still be gank but you need a little bit more than a 7YO kid behind the computer flying daddy catalyst and knowing where F1 on the keyboard is and hit it.  But don't worry, there's always Kitty Online for those worderful children. The same could be said of every single miner coming back to Eve for Hello Mackinaw online. "Daddy's macky out in the belty welty press f1 sweetie. No don't worry, you're safe." Those children apparently belong in Eve high-sec. After all, Hello Kitty Online might be too tough for them. 
Yes, because 7YO kid are known for loving watch screens with wonderfull lasers "bzzzt bzzt bzzzt" rocks before going to bed.

brb |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:26:00 -
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Silk daShocka wrote:Risk/reward.
Ganking may have a risk with next expansion, it always had rewards. No buff needed.
Please, tell us more about how the risks of suicide ganking aren't risks. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

captain foivos
State War Academy Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:26:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:captain foivos wrote:Update: CCP has once again shat on ganking in order to turn highsec into a risk-free carebear paradise. Yes please explain us why is free risk and also why you don't move to low/null/WH. I know why: you actually like to be safe behind actual high sec aggression mechanics and Concord so you don't loose your uber boat. Well, sorry for you dude. You'll have to adapt or die, eventually ragequit or just assume consequences of your choices from now on. It was time.
I actually live in nullsec, where everyone in Eve is already free to shoot me. However, with these new changes to highsec, if I take something, everyone is free to shoot at me, but I am not free to shoot at everyone. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9746
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:28:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:All best known gankers keep saying I shouldn't be able tank my ships since it makes their job more difficult. Not really, no.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1129
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Posted - 2012.10.04 22:30:00 -
[203] - Quote
captain foivos wrote: I actually live in nullsec, where everyone in Eve is already free to shoot me. However, with these new changes to highsec, if I take something, everyone is free to shoot at me, but I am not free to shoot at everyone.
Limited engagement rule, you are free to shoot them right back to defend your crime. |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2012.10.04 23:38:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote: No they say your ship should not be tanked just by default. Leaving all slots empty should not meant your exhumer is tanked
Battleships used in L4 missions are also tanked by default againist catalyst (all slots empty). Now are you going to whine that "nerf BS HP because they shouldnt be tanked just by default?
No ****? You think a ship built specifically just to be efficient a mining should be just as resilient as a ship built specifically for fighting other ship? |

Olleybear
I R' Carebear
121
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:07:00 -
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My fellow highsec New Edeners,
From the conversation currently ongoing in this particular thread, some of the POD Pilot community would have you believe that our profession, the profession of mining, is now overpowered. That when we get into our barges, we are no longer vulnerable to their wicked ways. My friends, they are laying a trap for us.
This trap is one of the mind. These devious pilots are trying wholeheartedly to get you to drop your guard by saying our ships are too strong and that they can no longer violence our boats because the profit motive has dried up. I assure, they can gank our ships. A quick Battleclinic scan will reveal the truth about what is really happening out there. Unfortunately, I am unable to provide direct links to each gank per forum rules. These evil pilots will of course try to take advantage of this particular forum nerf to convince you "ganking is dieing".
Ganking is not dieing my friends. Tear gathering by the bucketful has been, and always will be, the goal of our nemesis. They will stop at nothing to harvest them and the forum propaganda campaign war they are waging will not stop as a result.
Be vigilant. Fly safe. Enjoy our high yields brothers. We will prevail. When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1326
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:29:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:My fellow highsec New Edeners, From the conversation currently ongoing in this particular thread, some of the POD Pilot community would have you believe that our profession, the profession of mining, is now overpowered. That when we get into our barges, we are no longer vulnerable to their wicked ways. My friends, they are laying a trap for us. This trap is one of the mind. These devious pilots are trying wholeheartedly to get you to drop your guard by saying our ships are too strong and that they can no longer violence our boats because the profit motive has dried up. I assure, they can gank our ships. A quick Battleclinic scan will reveal the truth about what is really happening out there. Unfortunately, I am unable to provide direct links to each gank per forum rules. These evil pilots will of course try to take advantage of this particular forum nerf to convince you "ganking is dieing". Ganking is not dieing my friends. Tear gathering by the bucketful has been, and always will be, the goal of our nemesis. They will stop at nothing to harvest them and the forum propaganda campaign they are waging will not stop as a result. Be vigilant. Fly safe. Enjoy our high yields brothers. We will prevail. Except, Olleybear, your prevalence means ever lower payouts for everyone in your profession. So those higher yields are literally going to ruin your market.
Not so sure I'd be so smug. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9749
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:33:00 -
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What's this GÇ£dieingGÇ¥ people keep talking about? Some kind of new dice-rolling mechanic for WIS? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
121
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:35:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Except, Olleybear, your prevalence means ever lower payouts for everyone in your profession. So those higher yields are literally going to ruin your market.Not so sure I'd be so smug.  Sir,
You have brought up this particular point once before and I have answered it. However I do appreciate the opportunity to point you in the direction of my previous post on the subject.
Cheers,
olleyebar When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1326
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Posted - 2012.10.05 00:35:00 -
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Tippia wrote:What's this GÇ£dieingGÇ¥ people keep talking about? Some kind of new dice-rolling mechanic for WIS? Is that a reference to City of Heroes?
I had to ask. You could /die in it. And it's literally in the process of dying.
So...
Is it?!?
[Edit]
Olley your answer doesn't account for the increase in miners due to it being the path of no resistance. You're implying miners attain some equilibrium with their environment.
I don't believe that's a "given" here.
[/Edit] He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Olleybear
I R' Carebear
121
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Posted - 2012.10.05 01:05:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote: Olley your answer doesn't account for the increase in miners due to it being the path of no resistance. You're implying miners attain some equilibrium with their environment.
I don't believe that's a "given" here.
No equilibrium with our environment is needed. Simple market pressures will move people around into doing other things that are more profitable as mineral prices come down. Just as those same pressures will move people back to mining as mineral prices go back up.
Their are people who try very hard to use the price of minerals as a reason to justify violence against those of the mining profession. This is simply an excuse as it has always been.
One thing I have noticed is that no one, that I have noticed anyway, says a thing about the low prices of high end minerals which mostly come from Null. Megacyte, Zydrine, and Morphite are laughably low when their prices are viewed over the span of years. Why is nothing said about this 'travesty'? Perhaps it is because of who is profiting. Personally, I find that interesting. When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
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