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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:09:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:1000 unit order of 200k ISK Catalysts You have to contact my Gallente alt for those... If only these mythical catalysts of yours actually existed.
Like these ones?
brb |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:10:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:Seriously...
The definition of griefing depends on the game. Having you ever actually read CCP's definition of griefing? Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2384
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:10:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Nice, you're just throwing most of your arguments down the toilets.
So what's the problem again?
(also, your links !)
You say they tank their ships. I show you that they dont.
Missing the part here where you are right. |

Lord Zim
1600
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:11:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:1000 unit order of 200k ISK Catalysts You have to contact my Gallente alt for those... If only these mythical catalysts of yours actually existed. Like these ones? Did they cost 200k? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:11:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:1000 unit order of 200k ISK Catalysts You have to contact my Gallente alt for those... If only these mythical catalysts of yours actually existed. Like these ones?
No, the ones he claims to be selling in Amarr for 200k each. Apparently Catalysts are only worth 200k across the board according to Jorma Morkkis. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Pipa Porto
1151
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:12:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:1000 unit order of 200k ISK Catalysts You have to contact my Gallente alt for those... If only these mythical catalysts of yours actually existed. Like these ones?
Which one of those cost 200k ISK? That's what that train of discussion is talking about.
Coming to Jorma's defense is never a good idea. Mainly because he lies about the dumbest things, and when caught in those lies, he doubles down on them instead of coming clean. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Lord Zim
1601
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:18:00 -
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Still waiting for that catalyst contract. Hell, I'll even pay 250k each. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:
Is there any proof that gankers made any impact on the number of bots or simply drove them to null and the backwaters of the major powers there? Most of the miners that I know who have been ganked aren't bots and if it's bots we are against then thats a programming issue with CCP. The "we're saving them by killing them," argument gets old really fast.
You mean aside from the fact that for 8 months the high sec ice belts were almost empty aside from a few well tanked macks and hulks?
Those few were either your own alts of those of blue alt corporations to CFC. Again, only noobs will pick this forum information manipulation for facts.
You're just say'in either CCP Shreegs is incompetent and it's thanks to your holly high sec intervention bots are gone, I will never agree with this, or you just don't want to admit you just exploited to hell a badly implemented mechanic to make more profits despite those actions actually might lead to many real paying customers leave the game. But that it's not your problem right? brb |

Lord Zim
1601
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:23:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:
Is there any proof that gankers made any impact on the number of bots or simply drove them to null and the backwaters of the major powers there? Most of the miners that I know who have been ganked aren't bots and if it's bots we are against then thats a programming issue with CCP. The "we're saving them by killing them," argument gets old really fast.
You mean aside from the fact that for 8 months the high sec ice belts were almost empty aside from a few well tanked macks and hulks? Those few were either your own alts of those of blue alt corporations to CFC. Again, only noobs will pick this forum information manipulation for facts. You're just say'in either CCP Shreegs is incompetent and it's thanks to your holly high sec intervention bots are gone, I will never agree with this, or you just don't want to admit you just exploited to hell a badly implemented mechanic to make more profits despite those actions actually might lead to many real paying customers leave the game. But that it's not your problem right? You think bots are gone? You actually, unironically, think bots are gone?
Ahahahahahahahahhahaha no they're back in force after the hisec ice interdiction stopped being a thing Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:24:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:1000 unit order of 200k ISK Catalysts You have to contact my Gallente alt for those... If only these mythical catalysts of yours actually existed. Like these ones? Which one of those cost 200k ISK? That's what that train of discussion is talking about. Coming to Jorma's defense is never a good idea. Mainly because he lies about the dumbest things, and when caught in those lies, he doubles down on them instead of coming clean.
Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right?
brb |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
165
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:25:00 -
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"Shoot something that can shoot back" is a terrible ebushido argument. Ebushido has been selected against without any CCP intervention. So I gues for you pubbies that sill don't get it your ~honorable pvp~ arguments are stupid and bad. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |

Lord Zim
1601
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:26:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right? Jorma Morkkis claimed he had 1000 catalysts in amarr at 200k. Buildcost is closer to 1.2m. What's the problem you have with Pipa's argument? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:26:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:baltec1 wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:
Is there any proof that gankers made any impact on the number of bots or simply drove them to null and the backwaters of the major powers there? Most of the miners that I know who have been ganked aren't bots and if it's bots we are against then thats a programming issue with CCP. The "we're saving them by killing them," argument gets old really fast.
You mean aside from the fact that for 8 months the high sec ice belts were almost empty aside from a few well tanked macks and hulks? Those few were either your own alts of those of blue alt corporations to CFC. Again, only noobs will pick this forum information manipulation for facts. You're just say'in either CCP Shreegs is incompetent and it's thanks to your holly high sec intervention bots are gone, I will never agree with this, or you just don't want to admit you just exploited to hell a badly implemented mechanic to make more profits despite those actions actually might lead to many real paying customers leave the game. But that it's not your problem right? You think bots are gone? You actually, unironically, think bots are gone? Ahahahahahahahahhahaha no they're back in force after the hisec ice interdiction stopped being a thing
Yes please, show us all your bot-o-meter detector and prove your words because right now my sh+»t-o-meter while exploring your post is exploding. brb |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
69
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:27:00 -
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captain foivos wrote:Update: I can't handle real PvP, so I'm going to cry until CCP lets me pick on just the people that I know I can beat.
FTFY EvE Forum Bingo |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:28:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right?
My dear fellow posters, take this post as a warning: Whoever supports Jorma ends up becoming stuck in a loop of non-sensical posting. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:29:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right? Jorma Morkkis claimed he had 1000 catalysts in amarr at 200k. Buildcost is closer to 1.2m. What's the problem you have with Pipa's argument?
My sh+»t-o-meter just started to get really hot at that point. But you fail to understand the background. brb |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:29:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:"Shoot something that can shoot back" is a terrible ebushido argument. Ebushido has been selected against without any CCP intervention. So I gues for you pubbies that sill don't get it your ~honorable pvp~ arguments are stupid and bad.
I remember there was once this alliance that was big on e-bushido, but they seem to have been wiped out  Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Pipa Porto
1151
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:30:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
Which one of those cost 200k ISK? That's what that train of discussion is talking about.
Coming to Jorma's defense is never a good idea. Mainly because he lies about the dumbest things, and when caught in those lies, he doubles down on them instead of coming clean.
Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right?
What are you talking about now?
Here's what's going on. Jorma Morkkis claimed that Destroyers cost 200k ISK (he implied that that included fittings, but eh). When he was called on that claim being bull, he claimed to have put 1000 Catalysts on the market in Amarr for 200k ISK. Market Data from CCP indicates that that was a lie. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
775
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:31:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yes tell me how much at Jita market average prices those catalyst cost: 1.4M But you actually over estimate and have far too much adoration for your so beloved market economy you're about to tell me the dow jones is going up because gallente might get a buff, right?
My dear fellow posters, take this post as a warning: Whoever supports Jorma ends up becoming stuck in a loop of non-sensical posting.
You win the price This thread badly started is getting really interesting now. Thx  brb |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:32:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:First, Battleclinic Second, what are you on about now? You claimed people in this thread weren't fighting people who could shoot back. How you can shoot if you have all your modules in cargohold? Battleclinic: There's a reason nobody uses them for killmails. Here's what that kill looks like on a Big Boy killboard. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14779632Why do you insist on lying about the dumbest things?
Are you saying Battleclinic modifies killmails? That's a different killmail.
Hint: compare original killmails. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1526

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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:33:00 -
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Well, this thread has certainly been interesting. I would like to remind some people that personal insults are not welcome, all they do is mess up a perfectly good discussion. So keep those to yourself and lets see how far this topic goes  ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Pipa Porto
1151
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:37:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:First, Battleclinic Second, what are you on about now? You claimed people in this thread weren't fighting people who could shoot back. How you can shoot if you have all your modules in cargohold? Battleclinic: There's a reason nobody uses them for killmails. Here's what that kill looks like on a Big Boy killboard. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14779632Why do you insist on lying about the dumbest things? Are you saying Battleclinic modifies killmails? That's a different killmail. Hint: compare original killmails.
I'm saying that Battleclinic is terrible at being a killboard.
Same Date, Same Time, Same System, Same Victim, Same number of people involved, Same Damage Taken, same Kill.
Why do you keep doubling down on your lies? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
100
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Weiland Taur wrote:
Is there any proof that gankers made any impact on the number of bots or simply drove them to null and the backwaters of the major powers there? Most of the miners that I know who have been ganked aren't bots and if it's bots we are against then thats a programming issue with CCP. The "we're saving them by killing them," argument gets old really fast.
You mean aside from the fact that for 8 months the high sec ice belts were almost empty aside from a few well tanked macks and hulks?
I am not sure this proves that bots were destroyed. I know plenty of regular miners that just gave up and wandered away to do other stuff during that period. But even if you are correct which you may very well be, it only proves they stopped mining there. This was one of the activities that finally helped push me to null sec. Not the ganking, but having to listen to the nonsense that they elicit from angry miners in local. I would also argue that the interdiction did not operate so much as a ganking operation but as a full scale wardec against a particular aspect of highsec in order to manipulate the market and thus is not so applicable here. I could be wrong.
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Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
100
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:38:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:La Nariz wrote:"Shoot something that can shoot back" is a terrible ebushido argument. Ebushido has been selected against without any CCP intervention. So I gues for you pubbies that sill don't get it your ~honorable pvp~ arguments are stupid and bad. I remember there was once this alliance that was big on e-bushido, but they seem to have been wiped out 
Who was that?
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Pipa Porto
1151
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:39:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:La Nariz wrote:"Shoot something that can shoot back" is a terrible ebushido argument. Ebushido has been selected against without any CCP intervention. So I gues for you pubbies that sill don't get it your ~honorable pvp~ arguments are stupid and bad. I remember there was once this alliance that was big on e-bushido, but they seem to have been wiped out  Who was that?
He's talking about BOB. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:40:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:I'm saying that Battleclinic is terrible at being a killboard.
Same Date, Same Time, Same System, Same Victim, Same number of people involved, Same Damage Taken, same Kill.
Why do you keep doubling down on your lies?
Did you compare original killmails? |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
100
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:41:00 -
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And it seems I will be taking e-bushido out of my plan to form the ultimate alliance to conquer all of nullsec...
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Lord Zim
1601
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:41:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Yes please, show us all your bot-o-meter detector and prove your words because right now my sh+»t-o-meter while exploring your post is exploding. Warp to any hisec ice belt, and you can safely assume that a large majority of them are bots. Especially the ones which keep warping their pod back and forth to the ice belt after they get ganked.
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:My sh+»t-o-meter just started to get really hot at that point. But you fail to understand the background. Actually, no, I didn't. You apparently did, though.
Weiland Taur wrote:This was one of the activities that finally helped push me to null sec. Not the ganking, but having to listen to the nonsense that they elicit from angry miners in local. Huh. Guess we should be holding more ice interdictions, if we manage to release even one pubbie from hisec-dom. Op success.
Weiland Taur wrote:I would also argue that the interdiction did not operate so much as a ganking operation but as a full scale wardec against a particular aspect of highsec in order to manipulate the market and thus is not so applicable here. I could be wrong. Buy this man a beer, he actually seems to understand what it was. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:42:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:I'm saying that Battleclinic is terrible at being a killboard.
Same Date, Same Time, Same System, Same Victim, Same number of people involved, Same Damage Taken, same Kill.
Why do you keep doubling down on your lies? Did you compare original killmails?
You seem to have missed the part where they're api verified. the only difference between them in battleclinic has been having some issues with killmails lately. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:43:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:You seem to have missed the part where they're api verified. the only difference between them in battleclinic has been having some issues with killmails lately.
I thought EVE-kill had HW problems... |
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