Well, if this does make you quit, hate to trot out a tired old trope, but can I have your stuff?

Seriously, idk how much programming experience you have, but I'd wager if you thought about it you'd come to a similar conclusion as I have, that coding a 3 dimensional movement model's physics isn't as easy as throwing out some HTML now and then.

I'd wager they worked on the tunnel animation for MONTHS. If not longer. It's not like just changing the stats on a ship, where it goes back to a class reference, this is a bit trickier.

I will not make me wise on how they have programmed it. But one or ccp should NOT ever tell me it is impossible to encode an option! It can be very difficult but it is nothing else than this ... Thus time and money. If so ccp choose it is not their time and money's worth then there's not some belching from me about this, it's their game. So I'll think of other things to spend my time and money on. That's it! I obviously do not want to play a game that bothers me.

there is no old system anymore

getting bridged by a titan is the old stupid "bloop, you just appeared out of nothing" effect.

Ain't no load screen there, either.

Cool. Thanks for setting that straight. I was wondering what the hell was going on.

Looking at that vid makes it seem like there's no rapid camera swing at the start of the bridge effect. Is that right? There's still that terrible abrupt stop at the end. But if there's no camera swing then settling this may just be a matter of using the bridge animation (minus sudden stop) in the place of the gate animation. Relatively few people have complained about the black tunnel itself as far as I can tell.

Of course, we'd still have the various cpu / heat / loading speed issues left to deal with. But it would be a pretty good start. Or is this wrong? Dunno.

OK, I might as well join the love fest.

First thing I would say is I'm actually pretty open to change. In general I'm pretty easy going, for example I never had any real complaints about the new inventory system. I like the new system scanner effect, and I'm not going to cry about where my undock button is. And finally, I have been living with the new jump effect, because I have no other choice.

I don't get motion sickness or anything, but I find the effect, as some have said, OVER THE TOP. And I'll take it one step further... it makes no sense.

If we are to believe that our ship is hurtling forward at some ridiculous jump speed, why would it just come to a complete standstill at the end of that jump? Prior to Odyssey, my ship disappeared and reappeared somewhere else. I imagine this sort of like being teleported somewhere else. But this new effect has me to believe that as a pilot, I can watch it happen. And it isn't my inner ear, but my brain that hurts after every jump.

After all, we have to slow down after a warp.. our ships all have MASS and INERTIA modifiers... but after traveling at... what, 10X? 100X? warp speed.. my ship comes to a complete standstill? It just makes no sense.

It was cool the first three times, but after a while now it's just monotonous and repetitive, and I would add, illogical. And btw I have a pretty good PC but multiboxing 3+ clients on 3 screens and the effect is sometimes, if not usually choppy.

my 3 cents.
LG

Yeah, the tunnel isn't really the issue here, the gate swing is.

Actually, warp theory says that your ship never moves but space moves around and past your ship (by contracting the space in front of you and expanding it behind you), therefore your ship doesn't need to slow down at the end of the jump.

It's the "gate swing" / camera pan that centers on the gate just before jump. It needs to be optional or removed, just as the "C" key or tracking camera option can be switched on & off, for use when you land on the other side of the gate. Everything else is fine.

I use to play Everquest which never made me sick, even with the levitation animation due to the old frame rates. Then I found Eve, which didn't make me sick and I didn't have to play a rated G game anymore.

NOW Eve makes me sick and gives me a headache. You have all the points in this thread, now fix it. As one programmer pointed out it is code, and code can be changed.

The gate animation only adds another factor in PVP I/WE SHOULDN'T have to deal with. Full screen map is not a solution. That someone from CCP offered it as a solution shows just how obtuse they really are.

Until then I have unsubbed all 5 of my accounts. You take away camera control and I take away $$.

4 alts going up for sale soon :=)

Do you read at all what I slices before you knock a new post in! ... "sigh"

It can't be. Like I said, my suggestion is to slow it down a good amount, so it's not so disorienting.

But seeing as the game has a literally linear model of direction in regards to where the gate is spitting you out at, it isn't really feasible imo to ask for it to be removed.

Another thought would be to scale it back by a whole lot, so the swing isn't so large relative to being focused on the gate model itself. Seeing the swing of a much smaller object relative to your perspective could be an improvement as well.

Have you clone jumped?
Used SiSi's moveme?
Jumped a gate while a map screen obscures your ability to see grid and the positions of other ships on grid?
If you're amusingly (un)lucky you can (could?) end up in 2 systems at once. (Logging out fixes it)

Tracking is an on & off option. Camera Shake is an on/off option. Forced 'immersionary' camera movements need to be optional on gates. Much like using CQ or the hanger is optional, rendering station environments is optional.

CQ was forced. Old hangers supposedly impossible to return to.

How petulant. How is this a factor in PVP at all? You appear in the same damn place you would have if they still had the load screen.

Also, you mean the same "programmer" who said this?



Yeah, not putting any stock in him, just sayin'.

Code isn't Legos. You can't just take out a block and put another block back that's about the same size, and the whole thing holds together.

So lay off the code monkeys already.

The lag caused by the new animation effects PVP. As for code, I know it is not Lego's but it was added and with work can be modified.

Okay, I could blame the game designers but having worked at a couple game companies most of them are glorified hall monitors. How about blaming CCP as a whole, for putting something so useless and annoying on the live servers.

How is this a factor in PVP at all? You appear in the same damn place.

lots of stuff

What I wrote is the honest reason I've not been to lowsec since the patch came out. And since my main is not welcome in highsec, I'm kind of stuck for now.

Do you think any of the graphical changes I suggested would be of use in this situation?

It can't be. Like I said, my suggestion is to slow it down a good amount, so it's not so disorienting.

But seeing as the game has a literally linear model of direction in regards to where the gate is spitting you out at, it isn't really feasible imo to ask for it to be removed.

Another thought would be to scale it back by a whole lot, so the swing isn't so large relative to being focused on the gate model itself. Seeing the swing of a much smaller object relative to your perspective could be an improvement as well.

The title of this thread is asking for it to be removed. Half the posters of the first 15 pages are asking for it to be removed.