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Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
79
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Posted - 2013.07.16 16:56:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:It pretty much sums up the entire post, especially the hysterically amusing bit of insight at the end, in one word.
I prefer to be efficient when possible.
Yeah, I've read all of your replies to the OP, the reply to my post seemed to be the most efficient one. The rest were long winded diatribes about your own preferences.
They haven't been particularly adroit in recognizing the problem the OP and many others have pointed out about the new animation. CCP even replied here and stated "it's not optimal".
So, when you use the /facepalm, its only efficient in action of derailing the thread. In-game sounds muted since Retribution, F10 Jumper since Odyssey |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4358
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:03:00 -
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Damasa Cloudwalker wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:It pretty much sums up the entire post, especially the hysterically amusing bit of insight at the end, in one word.
I prefer to be efficient when possible. Yeah, I've read all of your replies to the OP, the reply to my post seemed to be the most efficient one. The rest were long winded diatribes about your own preferences. They haven't been particularly adroit in recognizing the problem the OP and many others have pointed out about the new animation. CCP even replied here and stated "it's not optimal". So, when you use the /facepalm, its only efficient in action of derailing the thread. Except, of course, that they have already stated that they are aware people are being affected and will address the issue... so your initial observation that "apparently CCP is going to stay the course" is completely false.
The rest of your post goes downhill from there. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
79
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:08:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Damasa Cloudwalker wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:It pretty much sums up the entire post, especially the hysterically amusing bit of insight at the end, in one word.
I prefer to be efficient when possible. Yeah, I've read all of your replies to the OP, the reply to my post seemed to be the most efficient one. The rest were long winded diatribes about your own preferences. They haven't been particularly adroit in recognizing the problem the OP and many others have pointed out about the new animation. CCP even replied here and stated "it's not optimal". So, when you use the /facepalm, its only efficient in action of derailing the thread. Except, of course, that they have already stated that they are aware people are being affected and will address the issue... so your initial observation that "apparently CCP is going to stay the course" is completely false. The rest of your post goes downhill from there.
If they haven't done anything about it so far, what makes you or anyone here think they are "aware and are addressing the issue"?
I don't see that anywhere in any of their replies, though I did see where they thought giving players options was a "cop-out".
Also, IF my post did go downhill, it didn't take quite as downward a track as most of your posts have... that's for sure.
Back on topic, please. In-game sounds muted since Retribution, F10 Jumper since Odyssey |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4358
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:31:00 -
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Quote:If they haven't done anything about it so far, what makes you or anyone here think they are "aware and are addressing the issue"?
I don't see that anywhere in any of their replies, though I did see where they thought giving players options was a "cop-out".
Also, IF my post did go downhill, it didn't take quite as downward a track as most of your posts have... that's for sure.
Back on topic, please.
The only one who seems to have wandered off from the point lately is you.
Here are a few posts you seem to have overlooked.
Quote:Wading into a can of worms I'm sure, but here goes.
We ARE looking at this and considering what we can do. The back end system used by the client has changed which makes a "turn off" not a real proposition. We are looking at ways to reduce the nausea reaction some players are experiencing through other means.
It would be helpful if we got feedback about what in particular during the jump sequence is causing the most difficulty
I am sorry for those adversely affected,.
Or the ever popular:
Quote:Here we go again.
We ARE looking at this. We are in the process of tweaking camera and FOV changes occurring in jump tunnel, the pre and post tunnel camera work as well.
no eta yet, as this is a slow process - especially with summer upon us and various people going on holidays.
And while we are at it, lets clear up your misconceptions:
Quote:Simply adding the ability to "turn it off" is a cop-out, and leaves us in the position where we have a sub-optimal animation in game that some people are unhappy with and choose not to use. The jump transition, much like the warp tunnel, is here to stay as a replacement for loading bars, and therefore it has to be good for everyone, and has to function as intended.
We will stress though, that we hear your concerns and we're in the process of exploring various avenues for resolving them that include work on the camera and work on the animation itself to smooth it out and alter how it flashes and scrolls, however this is something that will take time and won't happen overnight.
They cleverly hide this information in the Dev posts scattered throughout this thread. You can access them all by clicking the blue EVE DEV icon from the thread title or on any of the individual dev posts. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Damasa Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
79
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Posted - 2013.07.16 17:57:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:If they haven't done anything about it so far, what makes you or anyone here think they are "aware and are addressing the issue"?
I don't see that anywhere in any of their replies, though I did see where they thought giving players options was a "cop-out".
Also, IF my post did go downhill, it didn't take quite as downward a track as most of your posts have... that's for sure.
Back on topic, please. The only one who seems to have wandered off from the point lately is you. Here are a few posts you seem to have overlooked. Quote:Wading into a can of worms I'm sure, but here goes.
We ARE looking at this and considering what we can do. The back end system used by the client has changed which makes a "turn off" not a real proposition. We are looking at ways to reduce the nausea reaction some players are experiencing through other means.
It would be helpful if we got feedback about what in particular during the jump sequence is causing the most difficulty
I am sorry for those adversely affected,. Or the ever popular: Quote:Here we go again.
We ARE looking at this. We are in the process of tweaking camera and FOV changes occurring in jump tunnel, the pre and post tunnel camera work as well.
no eta yet, as this is a slow process - especially with summer upon us and various people going on holidays. And while we are at it, lets clear up your misconceptions: Quote:Simply adding the ability to "turn it off" is a cop-out, and leaves us in the position where we have a sub-optimal animation in game that some people are unhappy with and choose not to use. The jump transition, much like the warp tunnel, is here to stay as a replacement for loading bars, and therefore it has to be good for everyone, and has to function as intended.
We will stress though, that we hear your concerns and we're in the process of exploring various avenues for resolving them that include work on the camera and work on the animation itself to smooth it out and alter how it flashes and scrolls, however this is something that will take time and won't happen overnight.
They cleverly hide this information in the Dev posts scattered throughout this thread. You can access them all by clicking the blue EVE DEV icon from the thread title or on any of the individual dev posts.
I saw all of the CCP replies, and I know how to use these forums.
The ENTIRE point of my post was "giving a +1 for an OPTION TO TURN IT OFF. Nothing else. Anything I said from that point was my opinion.
From what I've gathered by reading your signature, you seem to be a real Eve pro, so you have clearly put me in my place. I have nothing else to say.
Less than five minutes remaining on my sub and I'm not coming back, so enjoy your game! In-game sounds muted since Retribution, F10 Jumper since Odyssey |
Essack Leadae
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.07.17 07:53:00 -
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Worst thing is that we are at summer, most players can invest more hours on EVE... and some can't because of this.
I do log more in EVE since one week because I got more free time, but still I can do only trading/afk-hauling, so most of this time isn't used for interesting activities... And now it happens frequently that I launch an another game while EVE is still working just because I forgot that I launched it.
When Odyssey was about to be released, I thought that I would use my free time in a better way, so naturally my frustation level is going up.
God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam. |
Fodiam
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
6
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Posted - 2013.07.17 13:05:00 -
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Essack Leadae wrote:
God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam.
Yep, you not alone ...
Yesterday I bought Wargame-Airland Battle for half the price on Steam, great and superbly created, well balanced and super skirmish gameplay against AI. Looking forward playing this and MP, after my CIV game I have going on right at present.
Last day tomorrow then this 3'rd and last account running out. You should hear no more from me before ccp hopefully one day make an on / off option.
Have fun all and fly safe! |
Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2013.07.17 14:16:00 -
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Fodiam wrote:Yep, you not alone ...
Here's a link to the Tranquility Server population statistics. Since the Oddessy update, there has been a noticable downward trend in the weekly spikes that represent the maximum number of players logged on simultaneously. This is best visible on the 'Past Year' graph.
Our forum discussion offers anecdotal evidence of a problem and relies on a skewed sample set. I think the statistical evidence is pretty clear though.
Anyway, peace. I'm off ot the park with a beer and a book. |
Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2013.07.17 15:02:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:We advise, we represent . . .
I'm glad to read that you will be going to CSM8 Summer Summit Mike. Thanks again for your helpful and open-minded input on this thread. I hope you will get a chance to review what has been said from the start and raise some of the points with CCP -- esp. the stuff about taking sisi feedback seriously, etc. Good luck.
(I'm not particularly sad that Malcanis won't be attending.) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4368
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Posted - 2013.07.17 15:52:00 -
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Quote:I saw all of the CCP replies, and I know how to use these forums.
The ENTIRE point of my post was "giving a +1 for an OPTION TO TURN IT OFF. Nothing else. Anything I said from that point was my opinion.
From what I've gathered by reading your signature, you seem to be a real Eve pro, so you have clearly put me in my place. I have nothing else to say.
Less than five minutes remaining on my sub and I'm not coming back, so enjoy your game! Perhaps you should have put "giving a +1 for an OPTION TO TURN IT OFF" in your post if that was the entire point.
Instead you said that CCP was going to "stay the course" and were not going to address the issue, which is completely incorrect (along with the rest of the accusations in your post). Their intention is to fix it rather than give the option to hide it.
I'm replying to 1: Point out that you said something completely different than what you claim, and 2: Let you know that we all realize you'll be back (if you even leave at all).
See you soon. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Fodiam
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
6
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Posted - 2013.07.17 17:59:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:Fodiam wrote:Yep, you not alone ... Here's a link to the Tranquility Server population statistics. Since the Odyssey update, there has been a noticeable downward trend in the weekly spikes that represent the maximum number of players logged on simultaneously. This is best visible on the 'Past Year' graph. Our forum discussion offers anecdotal evidence of a problem and relies on a skewed sample set. I think the statistical evidence is pretty clear though. Anyway, peace. I'm off to the park with a beer and a book.
Good for you ... I took a glass of red wine with a good movie on the TV box.
I'm looking also from time to time on these graphs. It seems more evident with Newborn player graphs - Past week!
However, I do not pretend that this will be a lasting trend. But it shows, however, that something are lagging.
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Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
86
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Posted - 2013.07.17 23:04:00 -
[1182] - Quote
Turn it off. |
Ian Stanley
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.18 02:34:00 -
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i do agree that the camera rotation is annoying
i usually alt tab when going to gate jumping unless im pvping |
Bryla Jax
AeD Corp
16
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Posted - 2013.07.18 09:44:00 -
[1184] - Quote
Sister Sophia wrote:Fodiam wrote:Yep, you not alone ... Here's a link to the Tranquility Server population statistics. Since the Odyssey update, there has been a noticeable downward trend in the weekly spikes that represent the maximum number of players logged on simultaneously. This is best visible on the 'Past Year' graph. Our forum discussion offers anecdotal evidence of a problem and relies on a skewed sample set. I think the statistical evidence is pretty clear though. Anyway, peace. I'm off to the park with a beer and a book.
Interesting data Did CCP confirm the numbers on that site? |
Siresa Talesi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
53
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Posted - 2013.07.18 18:55:00 -
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Essack Leadae wrote:God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam.
I've spent more on GOG.com since the Odyssey launch than I have in the past 3-4 years.
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Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
111
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:23:00 -
[1186] - Quote
Ok, vacation is over guys, time to tweak the animation already.
At least the wild swing at the beginning.
Please?
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Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
168
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:51:00 -
[1187] - Quote
CCP please get rid of multi-accounts, dual-boxing, etc. A character should be tied to one player. |
Yusef Brion
Big Yellow Pidgeon Inc.
20
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:03:00 -
[1188] - Quote
Essack Leadae wrote:Worst thing is that we are at summer, most players can invest more hours on EVE... and some can't because of this animation.
I do log more in EVE since one week because I got more free time, but still I can do only trading/afk-hauling, so most of this time isn't used for interesting activities... And now it happens frequently that I launch an another game while EVE is still working just because I forgot that I launched it.
When Odyssey was about to be released, I thought that I would use my free time in a better way, so naturally my frustation level is going up.
God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam.
Yusef Brion wrote:For the love of god can we please just have the option to turn off the auto scan of every system we jump into? I like the animation, but please just wait for me to ask for the scan. Unless we are going to start making all of our ship functions automatic now?
I'm already alt-tabbing out every time I jump or hitting f10 because I've given up on ever getting the option to make the puke tunnel go away.
All we want are options. Please?
Giving us options is not a cop-out. Your jump animation makes me sick, so I LEAVE THE GAME instead of watching your animation. Is that your goal? |
Ordo Malus
Shadows Of The Requiem Here Be Dragons
0
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Posted - 2013.07.19 08:22:00 -
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Giovannui wrote:The new jump animation introduces too much lag when multi-boxing. is there a way to turn it off? If not, please give us the ability to use the old system again.
If your computer cant handle the warp tunnel graphics, you should consider spending less time and money on multiple accounts, and get a better computer. |
Ordo Malus
Shadows Of The Requiem Here Be Dragons
0
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Posted - 2013.07.19 08:24:00 -
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Yusef Brion wrote:Essack Leadae wrote:Worst thing is that we are at summer, most players can invest more hours on EVE... and some can't because of this animation.
I do log more in EVE since one week because I got more free time, but still I can do only trading/afk-hauling, so most of this time isn't used for interesting activities... And now it happens frequently that I launch an another game while EVE is still working just because I forgot that I launched it.
When Odyssey was about to be released, I thought that I would use my free time in a better way, so naturally my frustation level is going up.
God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam. Yusef Brion wrote:For the love of god can we please just have the option to turn off the auto scan of every system we jump into? I like the animation, but please just wait for me to ask for the scan. Unless we are going to start making all of our ship functions automatic now?
I'm already alt-tabbing out every time I jump or hitting f10 because I've given up on ever getting the option to make the puke tunnel go away.
All we want are options. Please? Giving us options is not a cop-out. Your jump animation makes me sick, so I LEAVE THE GAME instead of watching your animation. Is that your goal?
Literally makes you sick, like, gonna vomit? Or are you just another stupid troll?
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Jizzmaster Mckenzie
Az'Suran Nation
21
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Posted - 2013.07.19 15:15:00 -
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Ordo Malus wrote:
Literally makes you sick, like, gonna vomit? Or are you just another stupid troll?
The troll is you.
Yes, there are people that get motion sickness from this new animation (me and other people poasting here).
If you love the new animation, and it does not make you sick, GOOD FOR YOU.
For the rest of us, we would like a checkbox, please. I have one month left on this account, and I won't renew unless it is fixed.
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Siresa Talesi
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.07.19 17:14:00 -
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Ordo Malus wrote:Yusef Brion wrote:Essack Leadae wrote:Worst thing is that we are at summer, most players can invest more hours on EVE... and some can't because of this animation.
I do log more in EVE since one week because I got more free time, but still I can do only trading/afk-hauling, so most of this time isn't used for interesting activities... And now it happens frequently that I launch an another game while EVE is still working just because I forgot that I launched it.
When Odyssey was about to be released, I thought that I would use my free time in a better way, so naturally my frustation level is going up.
God bless Valve, there is the summer sales on Steam. Yusef Brion wrote:For the love of god can we please just have the option to turn off the auto scan of every system we jump into? I like the animation, but please just wait for me to ask for the scan. Unless we are going to start making all of our ship functions automatic now?
I'm already alt-tabbing out every time I jump or hitting f10 because I've given up on ever getting the option to make the puke tunnel go away.
All we want are options. Please? Giving us options is not a cop-out. Your jump animation makes me sick, so I LEAVE THE GAME instead of watching your animation. Is that your goal? Literally makes you sick, like, gonna vomit? Or are you just another stupid troll?
Personally, it makes me physically nauseous and gives me migraine headaches, so yes, it is making people literally sick.
Which you would have known if you had even bothered to read a single page of this thread. Next time, please do a little reading before you start calling others "stupid," unless of course you have no qualms about appearing to be so yourself. |
ImInRens
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.19 21:40:00 -
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I don't experience lag with the new jumping animation but I just find it pointless to have and rather silly. I'm not much of a fan of fancy flashy stuff, really. |
sally Deninard
mss industry
1
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:28:00 -
[1194] - Quote
This thread normally lives on page 1 of the forums so I am gonna necro it . I have, post odessy been avoiding watching the jump animation as it does make me feel quite poorly, however today I am quite pissed off with it and feel the need to post. I left some items at jita and the thought of going back to get them makes me feel worse, so I am going to log off. This not wanting to play is happening more and more because the jumps just wear me out I have realised that I don`t really travel much in eve anymore, less pvp etc on my main. Eve is the only current game that makes me feel poorly in this way. The whole animation really does suck balls in particular the camera swing at the start .... Then the tunnel effect too is quite bad (sometimes it breaks up and thats not too good ) and the little refocus as you get dragged out is bad too. The whole animation... I unfortunately wear glasses as i have myopia and astigmatism in both eyes and this probably doesn`t help. Also not giving people the option to turn it off out of choice on CCPs part is rather sadistic. |
Violet Winters
Angelic Eclipse.
94
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Posted - 2013.07.22 06:35:00 -
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Marcus Harikari wrote:CCP please get rid of multi-accounts, dual-boxing, etc. A character should be tied to one player.
Anglic Eclipse.
Lee told me to remove my signature Minmatar and Gallente FW |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
160
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:04:00 -
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Hey CCP, fix these problems that you just created already.
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Aldap
Club Bear
244
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Posted - 2013.07.23 00:44:00 -
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When will you fix this already? Eve is the most broken its ever been with this atrocious flickering ruining roams... My latest solo PvP videos |
Essack Leadae
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.07.23 11:40:00 -
[1198] - Quote
Let's be optimistic. We can expect an update for... a winter expansion =) |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
305
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:00:00 -
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Essack Leadae wrote:Let's be optimistic. We can expect an update for... a winter expansion =) Yes, an update that something else that was working perfectly will be broken and then forgotten about even after there were numerous complaints during the testing phase and subsequent forum posts afterwards... |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
253
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:12:00 -
[1200] - Quote
It would be interesting to see the statistics of what percentage of clients are not in the foreground when running the warp gate animation (meaning they are either minimized or have some other window opened to hide the animation). That would be the most telling, I think. |
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