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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
1449
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:58:00 -
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What this tells me is that you basically want these to be "operate out of any danger and warp out the moment something approaches/manages to lock them" ships..
Not very attack now is it?
The maulus/griffin/crucifier are already pretty damn excellent at that.. We don't really need t2 ships to be throwaway long range ewar =/
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Ju0ZaS
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
26
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:04:00 -
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Solid overall. But does the Hyena really need longer webs than a rapier. I mean, they're annoying as it is for kite ships. Now a pasky frigs will be able to web you from even further. Perhaps 40% as the Rapier and Hugin currently have would be fine and also maybe considering to bump down the bonus for both this and the recons to 30% per level would be a good idea?
Are you going to fight me or do you expect to bore me to death with your forum pvp? |
Kyle Yanowski
Aideron Robotics
131
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:05:00 -
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This might be a pretty good opportunity to address the lack of specialty drone utility currently on the battlefield. The Keres, with drone bandwidth of 25, and a bonus to sensor dampening effectiveness of hobgoblin SD-300s, and a reduction in the dampening stacking penalty (if possible) would add an interesting element to fleet fighting.
I would argue this for the Sentinel as well. That eliminates 2 ships from the concern of these dominating the solo, kiting, PvP market, and still gives these two ships a much needed role on the battlefield.
Host of the High Drag Eve Online Podcast ( http://highdrag.wordpress.com).
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Ju0ZaS
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
26
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:07:00 -
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Another thing, comparing with the Maulus, the Keres has way less offensive capabilities. Only 1 drone and 2 fittable in bay. While the Maulus has 4 controllable and a bay to fit 6. Although the Keres variant is more designed for pointing and damping while the Maulus is just damps and some drone dps I think the T2 version could still maybe use bit more drone power. Maybe you could look into that? :)
Are you going to fight me or do you expect to bore me to death with your forum pvp? |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3533
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:09:00 -
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Ju0ZaS wrote:Another thing, comparing with the Maulus, the Keres hay way less offensive capabilities. Only 1 drone and 2 fittable in bay. While the Maulus has 4 controllable and a bay to fit 6. Although the Keres variant is more designed for pointing and damping while the Maulus is just damps and some drone dps I think the T2 version could still maybe use bit more drone power. Maybe you could look into that? :)
This is intentional, EAFs are T2 ships, special purpose ships. Maulus can solo stuff, Keres works as part of a gang.
Taking a better look at the stats, it's a rather nasty ship.
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
78
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:32:00 -
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Long overdue changes on the EAF. However combined with the warp drive changes the whole class of EAF will OP, allowing safe EWAR at 40km range and if anything looks strange at you you warp out. But now you are back on grid in less than 12 seconds at a different spot, which has basically no influence on the outcome of a fight while you risk nothing. 
Shadoo > whoever was the first nyx on grid
Shadoo > THANK GOD YOU ARE A SMART MAN and fitted the best tank in PL
Shadoo > (ie. cyno) |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Origin.
Black Legion.
274
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:51:00 -
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Shigsy wrote:Just what eve needs, more overpowered long range ewar ships.
Anyone who thinks this change is a good idea didn't play eve 3-4 years ago.
RIP 240km jam optimal falcons
STANDING ON THE VERGE OF PROLAPSE |
Black Canary Jnr
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
Sev3rance
5
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Posted - 2013.10.02 18:55:00 -
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So everything except sentinel wins.
25 mil for a glorified crucifier with some 36km small neuts? Lame. Would be interested if it could fit a medium neut but atm it's pretty lame. Plus it only has 4 mid slots so crucifier does the exact same job anyways, just got to manage cap abit :/ |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
461
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:08:00 -
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/wipes drool off keyboard.
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
32
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:09:00 -
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Keres really does need at least 2 drones in space. 3 Would be Ideal I think.
Could you maybe change the Sentinel to 20% activation cost reduction per level for the frig skill and increase the EAF range skill to 100% per level, and reduce its bandwidth from 20 to 10 or 15?
The Law is a point of View |
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sten mattson
Virtus Crusade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:20:00 -
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I hope these changes will translate to the only recon with no range bonus: the pilgrim
Im a little worried about the hyena with links beeing able to web things at 60k, Otherwise looks good
IMMA FIRING MA LAZAR!!! |
Sigras
Conglomo
534
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Posted - 2013.10.02 19:21:00 -
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I remember a long time ago that you guys kicked around the idea of +50% afterburner speed boost for assault ships but the idea was scraped because it basically made them solo pwn mobiles.
Why not reinvent that bonus for the EAS? They have basically no offense (with the exception of the sentinel) so they wouldnt be deadly solo and it would provide them the mobility and survivability they need. |
AstraPardus
THE INSURGENCY
The Unthinkables
276
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:24:00 -
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Oooooohhhhhhh yeeeaaaahhhh! :3
Every time I post is Pardy time! :3 |
Akturous
Van Diemen's Demise
Northern Coalition.
227
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:43:00 -
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Honestly, I was hoping for a speed increase, hp buff and .....covert ops cloaks, since that role isn't filled, a cheaper covert ops bridgeable ewar ship that can be used effectively with a gang of bombers.
Still, I'll not complain about having EAF V.
Vote Item Heck One for CSM8 |
Veskrashen
Justified Chaos
11
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:46:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:/wipes drool off keyboard.
For realz. |
Phaade
Debitum Naturae
C0VEN
106
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:47:00 -
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Before making these changes, please, for the love of God, adjust ECM accordingly.
The last thing we need is a more powerful ECM ship. |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile.
Imperial Outlaws.
1357
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Posted - 2013.10.02 20:50:00 -
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Akturous wrote:Honestly, I was hoping for a speed increase, hp buff and .....covert ops cloaks, since that role isn't filled, a cheaper covert ops bridgeable ewar ship that can be used effectively with a gang of bombers.
Still, I'll not complain about having EAF V.
I think you, me and at least two other dudes have EAF V. |
TAckermassacker
New Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:02:00 -
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i still need 8% more pg on hyena and kitsune.
thanks in advance |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
522
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:36:00 -
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Also why is the sentinel so much better than the keres at drones?
KERES - make it creodron
Gallente Frigate Bonuses:
7.5% bonus to remote sensor dampener effectiveness per level
10% reduction in remote sensor dampener capacitor need per level to 7.5% bonus to Drone Tracking
Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
20% bonus to warp disruptor range per level (+10% per level) to 12.5% bonus to warp disruptor range per level
10% reduction in warp disruptor capacitor need per level to 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
Slot layout: 2H, 5M, 3L; 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 33 PWG, 205 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 325 / 400(+50) / 425(+75)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 375 / 187s (-93s) / 2.00 (+.66)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 355(+10) / 4.1 / 1095000 / 6.22s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 5 / 10 to 25/50
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 68km(+29km) / 550 / 7
Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric(-.5)
Signature radius: 50(-5) to 43
Role bonus
25% reduction in e-war capacitor usage
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
522
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:40:00 -
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HYENA
Minmatar Frigate Bonuses:
10% bonus to optimal range of target painters per level (was MWD capacitor use)
10% bonus to effectiveness of target painters per level
Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
50% bonus to stasis webifier range per level (+30% per level) to 35% bonus to stasis webifier range per level
3% reduction in signature radius per level to 5% missile damage
Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 3L; 2 turrets, 2 launchers to 3 launchers
Fittings: 36 PWG, 145 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 375(+50) / 375(+25) / 325(+25) to 410 / 375 / 350
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 355 / 175s (-91s) / 2.02 (+.69)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 385(+25) / 3.93 / 1083000 / 5.9s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 66km(+31km) / 600 / 7
Sensor strength: 21 Ladar
Signature radius: 45(-6) to 38
Role bonus
25% reduction in e-war capacitor usage
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
522
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:43:00 -
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KITSUNE
Caldari Frigate Bonuses:
20% bonus to ECM target jammer strength per level
10% reduction in ECM target jammers' capacitor need per level to 10% missile velocity
Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
25% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level (+12.5% per level) to 15% ECM optimal range
5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level to 5% missile damage
Slot layout: 3H, 5M, 2L; 1 turrets, 3 launchers
Fittings: 26 PWG, 270 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 450(+50) / 250 / 275(+25)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 415 / 195s (-116s) / 2.12 (+.79)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 315 / 3.86 / 1117000 / 5.98s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 71km(+29km) / 520 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Gravimetric
Signature radius: 55(-3) to 43
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
522
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:47:00 -
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SENTINEL
Amarr Frigate Bonuses:
20% bonus to energy vampire and energy neutralizer transfer amount per level
7.5% bonus to effectiveness of tracking disruptors per level
Electronic Attack Ships Bonuses:
80% bonus to energy vampire and energy neutralizer range per level (+40% per level) 60% bonus to energy vampire and energy neutralizer range per level
5% reduction in capacitor recharge time per level to 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 3L; 2 turrets, 0 launchers to 3H, 4M, 3L; 2 turrets, 2 launchers
Fittings: 40 PWG, 195 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 300(+25) / 425(+50) / 375(+25) to 300 / 460 / 375
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 415 / 190s (-121s) / 2.18 (+.85)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 340(+10) / 4.25 / 1112000 / 6.55
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 20 / 60
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 66km(+30km) / 575 / 7
Sensor strength: 21 Radar
Signature radius: 48(-5) to 39
Role bonus
25% reduction in e-war capacitor usage
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Travasty Space
Pilots of Epic
26
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Posted - 2013.10.02 21:53:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:Akturous wrote:Honestly, I was hoping for a speed increase, hp buff and .....covert ops cloaks, since that role isn't filled, a cheaper covert ops bridgeable ewar ship that can be used effectively with a gang of bombers.
Still, I'll not complain about having EAF V. I think you, me and at least two other dudes have EAF V.
Hey bro I've got it too! |
M1k3y Koontz
Thorn Project
Surely You're Joking
331
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:16:00 -
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Damn... so... Sentinel? Wow, that's insanely epicly going to be OP, awesome until then though.
OP only compared to the competition though, the Hyena, Keres, and Kitsune will remain "meh" for the time being.
Hyena is better, but I don't see it being that great. A 3% per level bonus? No other ship has anything nearly that pitiful, and on sig radius reduction of all things? C'mon CCP... I mean its ok, but I'd rather fly an AF like a Blarpy.
This thread seems to be one big collective "Meh" aside from the Sentinel.
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2058
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:16:00 -
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Travasty Space wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote:Akturous wrote:Honestly, I was hoping for a speed increase, hp buff and .....covert ops cloaks, since that role isn't filled, a cheaper covert ops bridgeable ewar ship that can be used effectively with a gang of bombers.
Still, I'll not complain about having EAF V. I think you, me and at least two other dudes have EAF V. Hey bro I've got it too!
i had it before it was cool!
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
612
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:21:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:I have to agree with the people predicting extremely obnoxious linked kiting setups. In the context of solo frigate battles, range control and ewar >>> everything else. The only thing you'll need to worry about is your crippled DPS failing to kill the target before reinforcements arrive.
My gut says these ships still lack survivability in even small gang fights. The Hyena and Sentinel, especially, since they have to operate at a closer range than the Keres or Kitsune.
Yeah, people complaining about the Keres being underpowered, when you can literally keep stuff pointed from miles away and have enough DPS to kill their drones. It's a ship that should literally never die.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc
Bitten.
95
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:21:00 -
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i dont quite get the wording on the first EAF skill bonus, how can something go to +80% with 40% per level? |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1248
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:32:00 -
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I'm in love with first idea, those thingies are going to be AWESOME !!
Yay !! Good job.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Just Lilly
123
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:41:00 -
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Thats a ....load of web range 
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FistyMcBumBasher
Calamitous-Intent
57
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Posted - 2013.10.02 22:45:00 -
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I like the fact that these can now mesh really well with t1 cruiser and/or AF gangs. With the increased engagement range and increased capacitor, these are definitely going to be a pain in the ass to fight in small faction warfare plexes. They are going to give quite a large boost for their price tag. |
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