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Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:10:00 -
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Two step wrote:How about even a small range bonus. RR range unbonused is really tiny, a fixed 100% range bonus taking it up to 16.8km would make it a lot more usable
As a logi pilot...yes. I feel the remote repair bonus will hardly be used unless the reps get some range.
Otherwise I foresee this being a very neat ship. That drone bandwidth is amazing!
I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever |
Karash Amerius
Sutoka
133
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:10:00 -
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Add me to the choir saying there needs to be a range bonus on the RR instead (or in conjunction) of the rep amount.
Karash Amerius
Operative, Sutoka |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
608
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:11:00 -
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WOW!!! 56mil mass .... it begs the question why where you so stingy with attack battleships the phoon still has 100mil mass
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Dibblerette
Ships Chat
150
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:12:00 -
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I'm going to have to agree with what's already been said. Either give this a range bonus, or (more useful/interesting) just go double the base range of all logistics mods and half hull bonuses. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
340
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:14:00 -
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So... how fast is this thing going with a nano, skirmishlinks and an OH mwd?
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec" |
Biife Stuhe
The Silence.
1
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:16:00 -
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Pocket Carriers!! Cool!!! |
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars
Fatal Ascension
69
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:20:00 -
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Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level
Role bonuses:
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
Please decide if this is going to be a energy turret boat, or a drone boat, split weapons, are fine, but then we have 4% Armor Resistance per level... which means you have 6 slots to fit a tank and damage mods. If you then go with Shield mods, your wasting a huge bonus of a ship...
3% to Armor AND Shield Resistances per level however would be pretty cool, and unique, meaning it can be shield tanked, damage control on the low, plus 5 mods for say tracking, damage... could be kinda sweet. Tho you would also need to give it a Shield and Armor 50% amount bonus, again would be kinda cool. |
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
213
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:21:00 -
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I did just think of a neat use for this ship.
Wspace POS bashing. Establish spider tank, launch sentries. Sip on tea. Profit.
I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever |
Zircon Dasher
311
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:22:00 -
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When is it on SISI?
Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |
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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
3270
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:25:00 -
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We can certainly discuss this amount vs range thing. Can you guys help me out saying specifically in relation to it:
Do you feel you need added range to be able to run PVE content, or just to PVP, or both?
Are you asking for bonus to amount AND bonus to range or bonus to range INSTEAD of amount?
Not sure when it gets to sisi but there will be plenty of time before release to play with it.
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MinutemanKirk
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
26
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:26:00 -
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If it's supposed to be an "aid" ship I don't see how giving it a turret bonus fits that role....
I'd suggest swapping it for the Remote Repair Range Bonus mentioned in previous posts. |
W0wbagger
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
51
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:28:00 -
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75mm scanres (did i read that right?) will not be ideal for any logi purposes either. Not saying it's unusual for a BS, but you don't tend to use BSs for logi. Making it a bit high for a BS, so sebos boost it to more reasonable levels, would be good.
Shame no clone bay as well. |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
3730
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:28:00 -
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That is a very nice ship for wormhole PVE, gj.
Perhaps in 2015 we will get battleships designed for PVP.
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Destiny Calling
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
23
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:29:00 -
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I had a bit of hope for this new ship but lol ~ccp~. |
Streya Jormagdnir
Alexylva Paradox
213
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:29:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We can certainly discuss this amount vs range thing. Can you guys help me out saying specifically in relation to it:
Do you feel you need added range to be able to run PVE content, or just to PVP, or both?
Are you asking for bonus to amount AND bonus to range or bonus to range INSTEAD of amount?
Not sure when it gets to sisi but there will be plenty of time before release to play with it.
The range bonus in general is good because it means if this (rather low-mass) ship gets bumped it will have more range as a safety net when spider tanking. The amount bonus is also good. If anything, I'd say drop the probing bonuses in favor of the RR range; explorers and wormholers who are even considering hopping into this thing will likely have solid probing skills anyway, and with a relatively slow warp speed/acceleration I definitely can't imagine it being effective for combat probing and tackling.
Just my 0.02 ISK 
I am also a human, straggling between the present world... and our future. I am a regulator, a coordinator, one who is meant to guide the way.
Destination Unreachable: the worst Wspace blog ever |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
608
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:31:00 -
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well like i said in a previous post with the amount bonus they will be able to outrep logi cruisers which seems a bad thing too me..
so range instead of amount keeps logi cruisers able to compete with amounts at least.
Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists
ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name
AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:32:00 -
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Its an updated Oneiros, flashier, more expensive, bigger "BOOM".
This thing will cost roughly 6 to 800 million isk for a few months at least.
May or maynot be worth it :-0
Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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DrunkenNinja
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:32:00 -
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Quote:
Nestor
1,000,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK
Seriously? |
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CCP Rise
C C P
C C P Alliance
3270
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:34:00 -
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DrunkenNinja wrote:Quote:
Nestor
1,000,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK
Seriously?
This is the same markup in high-sec that the Stratios and Astero get.
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Kristalll
Valkyrie Professional Resources
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
4
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:35:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:We can certainly discuss this amount vs range thing. Can you guys help me out saying specifically in relation to it:
Do you feel you need added range to be able to run PVE content, or just to PVP, or both?
Are you asking for bonus to amount AND bonus to range or bonus to range INSTEAD of amount?
Not sure when it gets to sisi but there will be plenty of time before release to play with it.
Having a range bonus for it supporting t3s in pve would allow more freedom to the t3s than simply anchoring up.
For pvp it would be better to allow some maneuverability to the fleet than simple rep it more. I'd imagine people using it like a carrier.
And I think people would prefer range over amount, but I'm also not involved much in logi circles. |
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Naomi Anthar
159
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:35:00 -
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Basically it means rattler will get some DECENT BUFF - since i cannot see why you would take rattle over this one.
Because it shield tanks ? Most of the time its good to be armor tanked at BS level. |
Destiny Calling
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
23
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:37:00 -
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<%penifSMASH> these are armor rattlesnakes
>_> |
Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
210
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:38:00 -
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My 2 cts.:
Remove
Quote:
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers
because, really.. who runs data sites in a faction battleship
and swap it for some decent remote rep range..
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Caroline Grace
Almost Approved
383
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:40:00 -
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1,000,000 LP and 100m ISK is a bit excessive when Nestor doesn't come with anything special for its battleship class. So far it looks like a bigger and slower Stratios with a repair bonus (and new hull desing). I was hoping for a medical bay or some other mildly crazy stuff, this is just a putting Stratios (scaled) numbers on a different hull. Not amused.
Low mass and repair ability will affect only very small amount of people who are looking forward to this ship (the whole population of EVE). Nestor should be the prime battleship of exploration across the whole cluster, not just something only considered good for wormhole space. |
Ptrum
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Insidious Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:41:00 -
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Their go my dreams of a blops ship. |
DrunkenNinja
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:43:00 -
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This amount of LP is just insane.
The ship will cost around the same as a Black Ops...
They are cute but I cant see it being used for pvp too much with this pricetag. |
Gorski Car
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
173
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:44:00 -
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meh |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
CAStabouts
1341
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:45:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote:My 2 cts.: Remove Quote:
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers
because, really.. who runs data sites in a faction battleship and swap it for some decent remote rep range..
Data sites in wormholes don't explode and nearly (or successfully) one-shot your cruiser.
Ghost sites, on the other hand...
The analysis ability is obviously designed so you can effectively run null/WH ghost sites with the benefit of battleship EHP to handle the massive explosion. |
Narcotic Gryffin
Bombin Busch Wookies
15
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:46:00 -
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I disagree with the people saying give it a range bonus to rep, thats what seperates it from the logis atm. Right now it looks like the whole intent is to spider rep other nearby battleships unless ccp had some other idea for how it was supposed to be used.
http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg |
Shinah Myst
SoT
DarkSide.
22
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Posted - 2013.12.03 17:47:00 -
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So... not only CCP yet again failed to produce a coherent line of ships, but at the same time managed to boost the single most boring fleet doctrine (w/o making it less boring). Why am I not surprised?
Welcome to Drones Online. |
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