There are no exploration battleships because a solo battleship jumping gates in low/nullsec is going to die horribly and quickly

JediRobin, I'm guess you haven't played EVE long.

The set of ships are a frigate, cruiser and battleship, like ALL the other pirate factions.

This ship is staying in theme with the others (besides the repairer bonus, which needs removed)

It's like covert ops (frigates), recons (cruisers) and black ops (battleships) The covert and recon can both use covert cloaks, blackops can't. Same idea here

Da "Logi-BS" incoming, fits the SoE theme good.

This will be awesome for small scale BS-Spidertank setups where the low scan resolution doesn't matter that much. As long as you have the ISK to loose one, of course

How about adding is some very different drone bonuses?

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% armor resistances per level
10% bonus to Heavy drone velocity and tracking per level

Gallente Battleship Bonus:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level
10% remote rep amount per level

Role bonuses:
+50% heavy drone damage
-50% heavy drone signature radius
+100% remote repair optimal range

Slot layout: 5H, 6M, 7L,
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 600

No turrents and no launcher slots, this will be a totally utility high based ship. Basicly a carrier with its primary focus on heavy drone dps (not sentry).

Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
JediRobin, I'm guess you haven't played EVE long.

The set of ships are a frigate, cruiser and battleship, like ALL the other pirate factions.

This ship is staying in theme with the others (besides the repairer bonus, which needs removed)

It's like covert ops (frigates), recons (cruisers) and black ops (battleships) The covert and recon can both use covert cloaks, blackops can't. Same idea here


Then I guess you should have told CCP, they totally ignored you here: The BS has no black ops cloak bonus. Covert jump bridge and jump drive are also out. So the Nestor has this weird set of numbers attached to it to make it look as if it fits to the other SOE ships, but then it lacks everything cloak-related.

So you have a cloaky frigate, a cloaky cruiser and a giant space coffin. Guess what doesn't fit in there

There are no exploration battleships because a solo battleship jumping gates in low/nullsec is going to die horribly and quickly

I have already covered this, but I see you didn't go back that far. I said the repair bonus should be replaced with a cloak speed bonus like the blackops one. And be able to cyno jump BUT not make them.

Stuff

Here's the details:

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote repair amount
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700

I agree with dropping the RR amount bonus for a 50% or 100% range bonus. RRBS fleets are pretty powerful already, giving us a BS with a RR amount bonus will just make that worse. Given this ships low mass and potential vulnerability to bumping I think a Range bonus would be far more beneficial for the ship.

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I wouldn't want to try playing the 'grab the cans' game after a hack with a BS. They're too slow and bumbling for an agility based activity. I don't have any experience with Ghost Sites, but is it even possible to survive the explosion? If it's not then this ship looks like an even worse idea for that given that the amount of time it takes to align and escape the site could leave you caught in the blast. I'm not sure if the reduced mass would create enough of a difference in that to make it worth the risk. Though the conveinence of not having to swap ships after clearing a data or relic site is enticing, I don't think reserving 1 or 2 mid slots to fit the appropriate hacking modules would really be a great idea and the thought of having to travel between hacks with a BS sours the idea further.

Unless the ship defies expectations for hacking utility I'd much rather see that role bonus dropped in favor of something more useful. Perhaps a reduction in RR activation cost or a reduction in cloak CPU use or reactivation delay (but not covert capable). Maybe something unique like a bonus to nanite paste repair time or repair amount?

500% multiplies the cloaked velocity (Which is less then blackops get with blackops L5)

People will tear there hair out if you suggest that this ship should become a hyperion version 2.

And with the Nestor CCP apparently thought they could change this. But thanks to a set of contradicting values (agile, but slow, exploration oriented but no cloak bonus), nothing has changed. (My best guess here is CCP thought gates in low/null wouldn't be an issue since it is supposed to be useful in wormholes.)

50% bonus to remote repair amount

Assumed you meant self repair amount aka the gallente bonus.

Just quick to anger there :-)