Well, I'm pretty sure they do, unless this has changed some where down the line within the past few months. Maybe someone else can confirm. But yes, I agree that for older, more experienced vets, the completion times are more than enough.

I'll admit that, using these times to 'measure' mission time averages is not reliable, but it's probably the best indication we have as to how long it's taking.

Its much like when we ran our ice interdictions. Everyone knew it was happening yet out of 600 killed macks not a single one had tanked their ship.

Stoicfaux provided the proof there is evidence of ~100m isk/hr from highsec missions and I provided proof that ~70m isk/hr for drone hub ratting. All of this stuff has been provided but, you all don't read it and continue to scream as loud as you can that highsec is fine. The only one of you that even attempted to prove this was Kimmi the others are either terminally stupid or shitposting. There's been plenty of proof provided by the pro-nullsec crowd and yet all the pro-highsec crowd, aside from a select few, is scream incoherently.

If removing blitzing isn't enough then the other two ideas that haven't been addressed are stretching missions through multiple systems or adding high HP low isk/LP enemies to missions.

Several hours at least. Only way to fail them is to forget to turn them in before you go to bed or work.

It doesnt matter if a lot of people don't do it, it matters because the people from null can do it and are doing it.

We have told you we are doing this, we have shown you that we can do this and we have told you how to do this. Yet people still continue trying to say its not happening. We have infact provided you with more evidence than we provided to CCP when we were abusing FW to make tens of billions.

That's a self-selecting sample set right there, unless you're also claiming that you killed every single Mackinaw you saw?

Several hours at least. Only way to fail them is to forget to turn them in before you go to bed or work.

Other than the small facts that get in the way.
Like Stoicfaux specifically said that 100m was an edge case and not the standard rate as it was reliant on a bunch of factors. And was done using a super bling ship.

And your 70m was actually 90-100m when done properly since you deliberately low balled it as much as possible, and were using a T2 fitted HAC instead. So if you had used the above super bling ship, your income while running would have been a lot higher. And if he had been using a T2 fitted HAC, his income would be lower.

And none of your 'Look at how we can play with individual isk/hr statistics to say what we want' has explained a thing about the gross income of a null player being approximately four times higher per capita pre ESS (So properly leveraged would now be five times higher) than the High Sec per capita income.
Null Earns more isk than high earns in combined isk & LP. Now with the ESS since Goons have taken all of 48 hours to work out how to use it safely, that is going to go up in Null.

So other than deliberately biased figures which don't count, nothing suggests High needs a Nerf in overall income levels.

We killed every single ship that tried to mine caldari ice in high sec for a month.

Those times don't change....

.....and how the HELL do you waist 5 hours doing a worlds collide? Hell I can full clear a Blockade between bounty ticks, and that isn't fancy that is a 19mil toon with a T2 fit mostly.

Bwahahaha, yea, that's an outright lie. I know for fact you didn't kill everyone.

You sell them in the best market, which is jita.

So suddenly I see my isk per hour drop as I spend time shipping LP rewards 20 hops through a couple choke points for gankers. Once there I get the joy of playing with market players/bots who 1 isk me ugh.

With that in mind thukker is suddenly more in line with regular options.

So suddenly I see my isk per hour drop as I spend time shipping LP rewards 20 hops through a couple choke points for gankers. Once there I get the joy of playing with market players/bots who 1 isk me ugh.

With that in mind thukker is suddenly more in line with regular options.

So basically at this point the only choice is SOE. Anyone ever post data achieving 100m isk an hour with one ship while accounting for market trips and such?

Did they lock the Gates on the Assault like they did on Massive Attack? If they didn't that is a 5 minute missions, takes longer to kil the tackle frigs in the second pocket than it does to kill the battleship in the last room.

The problem, mister science teacher, is that you spend more time accusing others of not listening when you yourself don't listen and instead go on spouting 13-year-old mantra, like "pubbie" and such stuff.

I have no reason to doubt that Stoic indeed ran 34 missions to average 100+ mill. He provided evidence that it is indeed possible to achieve 100+. BUT, and here is where you fail or do not care to listen, that does not indicate that this is the norm or even sustainable, as has been claimed earlier in the thread.

Calculate the isk lost in the time spent getting the goods from the LP store and shipping it to jita once a month. Im betting it wont even show up.

You know there are frieght services right? You never have to leave your mission hub.

Either that or learn to blockade runner.

Its much like when we ran our ice interdictions. Everyone knew it was happening yet out of 600 killed macks not a single one had tanked their ship.

We killed every single ship that tried to mine caldari ice in high sec for a month.

I'd be surprised if they don't just gank blockade runners entering the jita trade paths. The cost of ganking one is so relatively low that shooting blindly would probably be worth it over time.

if I went once a month I'd very likely be ganked just trying to get to market. Especially considering the 100m isk per hour is mostly the result of LP items being sold.

Just one gank and suddenly your 100m isk per hour is now 34m at best.

Good post, Mara. And what you said is exactly the reason which leads me to believe not a lot of players are blitzing missions.

Other than the small facts that get in the way.
Like Stoicfaux specifically said that 100m was an edge case and not the standard rate as it was reliant on a bunch of factors. And was done using a super bling ship.

And your 70m was actually 90-100m when done properly since you deliberately low balled it as much as possible, and were using a T2 fitted HAC instead. So if you had used the above super bling ship, your income while running would have been a lot higher. And if he had been using a T2 fitted HAC, his income would be lower.

And none of your 'Look at how we can play with individual isk/hr statistics to say what we want' has explained a thing about the gross income of a null player being approximately four times higher per capita pre ESS (So properly leveraged would now be five times higher) than the High Sec per capita income.
Null Earns more isk than high earns in combined isk & LP. Now with the ESS since Goons have taken all of 48 hours to work out how to use it safely, that is going to go up in Null.

So other than deliberately biased figures which don't count, nothing suggests High needs a Nerf in overall income levels.

I mined 1.7b ice during your interdiction and I can assure you that my miner not once lost a ship.

It doesn't matter if a lot of people don't do it, it matters because the people from null can do it and are doing it.

GǪ

We have told you we are doing this, we have shown you that we can do this and we have told you how to do this. Yet people still continue trying to say its not happening. We have infact provided you with more evidence than we provided to CCP when we were abusing FW to make tens of billions.