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Malcolm from Marketing
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
52
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:13:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Some people should start answering the questions, instead of avoiding them. They were answered. They were ignored. As I suspected, no one's really interested in answers, just a witchhunt.
No they were not.
If you'd be so kind as to point out Erotica's answer to this question that has been ignored many times by him, i'd be ever so appreciative, instead you seem to be blindly defending an indefensible event.
I've quoted the simple question below for your convenience and look forward to the reply.
Big Lynx wrote: Fourth attempt:
Ok mate. Let's talk like adults. Concerning self-reflection, do you think you and your friends have gone too far?
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2819
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:14:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Erotica refused on no less than 10 separate occasions to answer the same simple and respectful question put to her.
Instead choosing transparent evasion and the false claim that "she had already answered it", when infact no less than 4 people can attest to there actually simply not being that answer in the first place.
Dishonest.
That would probably only matter in Sharia law but, people can claim what they want, it doesn't make it true. The actual physical evidence, where the question was answered, actually outweighs the anecdotal evidence. Testimony that is wrong... I believe you call that perjury?
Am I right? 
Also, you can't libel someone without identifying them. Anonymity protects your from libel. "Salvos Rhoska" has no real world reputation to damage so... you know, for a lawyer, you're not a very good one. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

PinkPanter
The Scope Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:14:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Like the so, so many you've ducked in the thread so far? I agree. You might instead want to consider how many times you have directly tried to misrepresent my posts as to the effect of having any intent to cause anyone any physical harm. They actually constitute libel, you know. And you perpetrated it more than once. You can't go around accusing people of having violent intent without proof. I'd sit down and shut up if I was you. That sounds like a threat. You should calm down before you do something you regret. I might also add that effective communication is the responsibility of the communicator. People wouldn't be 'misrepresenting' your points if you were making them with more succinct clarity. You have, indeed, dodged a wide variety of questions. You do a lot of dodging. I believe you when you say you're a lawyer.
A suggestion is far from a threat but we all see what we want to see right? After all that's what manipulation is about and clearly you are trying to take people words in such context that will benefit your cause even though it's derailing the original topic and has nothing to do with a fact...
And even IF then:
"I'd sit down and shut up if I was you" = "you should calm down before you do something you regret".
So. E1s alt, crap manipulator, stupid or hypocrite? (It's my conclusion not a insult nor threat for your touchy eyes) |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2829
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:14:00 -
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It needs two people for this: One that gives the other power over themselves and the other that abuses said power. The former you call stupid, the latter you call vile. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3666
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:15:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:From my perspective, it would seem that the suffering and anguish he inflicts on the people in the Bonus Room is a source of great pleasure for him.
Else, why do it over and over. And there is demonstrably no other profit in the activity.
You've expressed that seeing him harmed in real life would be a source of great pleasure for you.
Let's ban you, too. Oh wait, we already should anyway, because you're the obscene racist in the videotape in the first place? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2819
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:15:00 -
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Bjurn Akely wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:
No, EN24 did not say it. It was a comment. A very convincing one too.
Maybe convincing for people with a predetermined bias. That would be called subjective validation. It sure didn't convince me. Point remains. You make me think of an awesome Monty Python skit. Also, you had a point?
Point was in a quoted post that I removed to reduce the size of the quote train that was going on. The point was, just because it's on the internet, doesn't make it true. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Clara Pond
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:17:00 -
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Icylce wrote: 1.Erotica1 knows that there is high chance that he will get insulted by eveplayer if he does something considered "evil"(link to minerbumping + empyric experiece from various scams). 2. Erotica1 scams person, then puts him into bonus round. 3. Erotica1 puts the player in bonus round in helpless state (takes all assets) and aplies psychical pressure. 4. Erotica1 is surprised when said person breaks and insults him. Conclusion: I can't read.
1. Ero engineers a game with complex rules that is designed to be hard but not impossible to win 2. Person qualifies for a bonus round (higher stakes, harder version of game) for any of a number of reasons including 100th client 3. Ero plays the game with the client in some cases for six hours after he has all their assets, thus debunking any possibility it is a scam 4. Ero is completely unsurprised when a majority can't complete the deliberately complex game, and uses their losses to pay out the small number of winners as well as making a profit, the majority of which is donated to the New Order 5. Blogger throws a losing client under his publicity bus to wage a hilariously melodramatic and over-reached vendetta against gameplay he personally considers distasteful, alongside the many other gameplay elements he considers distasteful.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
537
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:17:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Erotica refused on no less than 10 separate occasions to answer the same simple and respectful question put to her.
Instead choosing transparent evasion and the false claim that "she had already answered it", when infact no less than 4 people can attest to there actually simply not being that answer in the first place.
Dishonest. That would probably only matter in Sharia law but, people can claim what they want, it doesn't make it true. The actual physical evidence, where the question was answered, actually outweighs the anecdotal evidence. Testimony that is wrong... I believe you call that perjury? Am I right?  Also, you can't libel someone without identifying them. Anonymity protects your from libel. "Salvos Rhoska" has no real world reputation to damage so... you know, for a lawyer, you're not a very good one.
And building on that Salvos, since you claim E1 is so dishonest for not answering questions what does that make you considering you were asked at least thirty direct questions in Dinsdales thread on the refining changes and didnt answer a single one of them, choosing instead to resort to obfuscation and goalpost shifting. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2973
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:17:00 -
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Can we have a 120 page threadnought about all the people who play the game the way I don't like i.e everyone who invades my designated personal constellation.
Oh god. |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
221
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:17:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:
This is just not scamming, its parasidic and morally wrong. Personally i would of called the police and given them the recording as people are now getting prosecuted for this type of thing. What gets me most is that there have been a few cases on twitter etc where people have committed suicide because of people like this. What if this guy did?
CCP has a duty just like twitter and others to protect its users.
And this is the big issue here. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2819
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:18:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Like the so, so many you've ducked in the thread so far? I agree. You might instead want to consider how many times you have directly tried to misrepresent my posts as to the effect of having any intent to cause anyone any physical harm. They actually constitute libel, you know. And you perpetrated it more than once. You can't go around accusing people of having violent intent without proof. I'd sit down and shut up if I was you. That sounds like a threat. You should calm down before you do something you regret. I might also add that effective communication is the responsibility of the communicator. People wouldn't be 'misrepresenting' your points if you were making them with more succinct clarity. You have, indeed, dodged a wide variety of questions. You do a lot of dodging. I believe you when you say you're a lawyer. A suggestion is far from a threat but we all see what we want to see right? After all that's what manipulation is about and clearly you are trying to take people words in such context that will benefit your cause even though it's derailing the original topic and has nothing to do with a fact... And even IF then: "I'd sit down and shut up if I was you" = "you should calm down before you do something you regret". So. E1s alt, crap manipulator, stupid or hypocrite? (It's my conclusion not a insult nor threat for your touchy eyes)
I'm a single account holder, I'm no one's alt. I neither support nor condemn the actions of Ero, and remain neutral to the topic. I still stand by that if Ero is banned, than so too should Sokhar be for his own vitriolic outbursts.
I'm here simply to address the flood of burning hatred and mouth froth stinking up my forums. Also, because it's entertaining. Stupid people are fun.
Especially the stupid people that confuse "that sounds like a threat" to "that was a threat". You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Druthlen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:20:00 -
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I had no idea it was this bad. I always had respect for the New Order as they combat botters which I hate. However hurting people in real life. Well, I would really like to meet erotica one in real life. I want to know if he is a bad ass as he seems to think he is. Might be a cool guy you never could tell from this though. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2819
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:21:00 -
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Malcolm from Marketing wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Some people should start answering the questions, instead of avoiding them. They were answered. They were ignored. As I suspected, no one's really interested in answers, just a witchhunt. No they were not. If you'd be so kind as to point out Erotica's answer to this question that has been ignored many times by him, i'd be ever so appreciative, instead you seem to be blindly defending an indefensible event. I've quoted the simple question below for your convenience and look forward to the reply. Big Lynx wrote: Fourth attempt:
Ok mate. Let's talk like adults. Concerning self-reflection, do you think you and your friends have gone too far?
If you were actually interested in an answer, and not just hating for hatred's sake, and hadn't already made up your mind on the matter, with extreme prejudice...
You'd go find it for yourself. You'd WANT to find it for yourself. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
943
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:22:00 -
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While I don't agree with what happens with the bonus rooms this really isn't anything new.
Pirates have been getting people to come on coms for years to answer ransoms or embarrass them, haven't we all watched this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9oAGnK9CU) in the past and had a good laugh? Or the many recordings of people singing to save their ships in ransoms.
Reading http://funkybacon.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/eve-il-online-and-incredibly-silly-mr.html really reflected my opinion on the matter, the guy in this clip wasn't forced to do anything, he could have walked away at any time.
If you want CCP to start stepping in where does it end? Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
I post on my main... shocking I know! |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
879
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:23:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Some people should start answering the questions, instead of avoiding them. This won't happen because of the audio. It is no longer an abstract concept that people are merely uncomfortable with but has rather become personalised as people imagine being in the same situation. I think that is why so many are attempting to justify the contestant's threats when they are clearly worthy of a ban.
Just think how a care bear whinge thread would usually progress: usual rant to open, a few support posts, then the community descends like a ton of bricks. This one is different because the audio triggers a visceral response from anyone who hasn't yet been desensitised to it.
It was a mistake to release the audio. It could do great damage to the game. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
431
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:23:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:From my perspective, it would seem that to Erotica1 the suffering and anguish people inflict upon themselves in the Bonus Room is a source of great pleasure for him.
Else, why do it over and over. And there is demonstrably no other profit in the activity.
And ofc there are many others who likewise vicariously enjoy this audio of a suffering individual, whether by participating live in these rephrehensible Bonus Rooms, or through the recordings that are afterwards disseminated throughout the game and its formats, without the consent to share them being given by the victim. Ftfy. You have to be a special kind of stupid to allow a stranger on the internet to have this kind of influence on you. If in doubt...do...excessively. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3667
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:23:00 -
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Druthlen wrote:I had no idea it was this bad. I always had respect for the New Order as they combat botters which I hate. However hurting people in real life. Well, I would really like to meet erotica one in real life. I want to know if he is a bad ass as he seems to think he is.
I missed the part where making fun of someone is "hurting people in real life". Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:23:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:tiberiusric wrote:
This is just not scamming, its parasidic and morally wrong. Personally i would of called the police and given them the recording as people are now getting prosecuted for this type of thing. What gets me most is that there have been a few cases on twitter etc where people have committed suicide because of people like this. What if this guy did?
CCP has a duty just like twitter and others to protect its users.
And this is the big issue here.
U READ THAT ERO?? |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
140
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:25:00 -
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Clara Pond wrote: 1. Ero engineers a game with complex rules that is designed to be hard but not impossible to win 2. Person qualifies for a bonus round (higher stakes, harder version of game) for any of a number of reasons including 100th client 3. Ero plays the game with the client in some cases for six hours after he has all their assets, thus debunking any possibility it is a scam 4. Ero is completely unsurprised when a majority can't complete the deliberately complex game, and uses their losses to pay out the small number of winners as well as making a profit, the majority of which is donated to the New Order 5. Blogger throws a losing client under his publicity bus to wage a hilariously melodramatic and over-reached vendetta against gameplay he personally considers distasteful, alongside the many other gameplay elements he considers distasteful.
The issue is not the scam. As you do not seem to see what other issues there could possibly be... well, if you really have not the slightest idea what people could find despiceable (hint: it's not the scam), then I'm worried. |

Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
669
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:25:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've expressed that seeing him harmed in real life would be a source of great pleasure for you.
False. I have expressed no such thing.
I would however enjoy the vindication of the abused over the abuser. I do not wish any harm on Erotica1 in real life, nor would that be any source of great pleasure for me.
Unlike the great pleasure for Erotica1 in extracting suffering and anguish from the victims for several hours if necessary to psychologically "break" them in his "Bonus Room" of torture, as evidenced in the recording.
That is unequivocably proven by the recording, the repetition of this activity for an extended duration, and the fact that there is no profit to be derived from it except in the form of the gratification for sadists from the humiliation and degradation they place on another human being.
So you are deliberately misrepresenting my words, with intent to libel. Cease and desist.
Returning to topic, Erotica1 has refused to answer a simple question put to her no less than 10 times. This is extremely dishonest, and also considerably disrespectful towards the persons asking the question in a respectful manner. |

Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
49
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:25:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:
No, EN24 did not say it. It was a comment. A very convincing one too.
Maybe convincing for people with a predetermined bias. That would be called subjective validation. It sure didn't convince me. Point remains. You make me think of an awesome Monty Python skit. Also, you had a point? Point was in a quoted post that I removed to reduce the size of the quote train that was going on. The point was, just because it's on the internet, doesn't make it true.
Reversely, just because it's on EN24 does not make it untrue. Hard to believe, I know. What makes me find it compelling is that it is put forward clearly and concisely and that it makes sense. We're allowed to interpret it differently and obviously do. |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
226
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:25:00 -
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Turelus wrote:While I don't agree with what happens with the bonus rooms this really isn't anything new. Pirates have been getting people to come on coms for years to answer ransoms or embarrass them, haven't we all watched this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9oAGnK9CU) in the past and had a good laugh? Or the many recordings of people singing to save their ships in ransoms. Reading http://funkybacon.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/eve-il-online-and-incredibly-silly-mr.html really reflected my opinion on the matter, the guy in this clip wasn't forced to do anything, he could have walked away at any time. If you want CCP to start stepping in where does it end?
It's not about if it is allowed or why the victim parents were brother and sister. It's about a sane person who uses Eve Online - > Space ships \ galaxy society \ economic simulator \ MMO > in order to find people he can humiliate in RL by recording them and then share it online for giggles. I personally was never aware such thing happened I always assumed all scamming was done in game and if coms were involved it would have been in civilized manner as this is a GAME = > humiliating people when no further profit is to be made shows the only purpose of this is for humiliating sake and that's shows u something about the person doing that. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1940
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:26:00 -
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Clara Pond wrote:Icylce wrote: 1.Erotica1 knows that there is high chance that he will get insulted by eveplayer if he does something considered "evil"(link to minerbumping + empyric experiece from various scams). 2. Erotica1 scams person, then puts him into bonus round. 3. Erotica1 puts the player in bonus round in helpless state (takes all assets) and aplies psychical pressure. 4. Erotica1 is surprised when said person breaks and insults him. Conclusion: I can't read.
1. Ero engineers a game with complex rules that is designed to be hard but not impossible to win 2. Person qualifies for a bonus round (higher stakes, harder version of game) for any of a number of reasons including 100th client 3. Ero plays the game with the client in some cases for six hours after he has all their assets, thus debunking any possibility it is a scam 4. Ero is completely unsurprised when a majority can't complete the deliberately complex game, and uses their losses to pay out the small number of winners as well as making a profit, the majority of which is donated to the New Order 5. Blogger throws a losing client under his publicity bus to wage a hilariously melodramatic and over-reached vendetta against gameplay he personally considers distasteful, alongside the many other gameplay elements he considers distasteful.
 Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
140
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:26:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Can we have a 120 page threadnought about all the people who play the game the way I don't like i.e everyone who invades my designated personal constellation.
feel free to start one. Btw, the threadnaught is not about something that occurs in-game so it can hardly be called a thread about playstyle. |

Malcolm from Marketing
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:26:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Malcolm from Marketing wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Some people should start answering the questions, instead of avoiding them. They were answered. They were ignored. As I suspected, no one's really interested in answers, just a witchhunt. No they were not. If you'd be so kind as to point out Erotica's answer to this question that has been ignored many times by him, i'd be ever so appreciative, instead you seem to be blindly defending an indefensible event. I've quoted the simple question below for your convenience and look forward to the reply. Big Lynx wrote: Fourth attempt:
Ok mate. Let's talk like adults. Concerning self-reflection, do you think you and your friends have gone too far?
If you were actually interested in an answer, and not just hating for hatred's sake, and hadn't already made up your mind on the matter, with extreme prejudice... You'd go find it for yourself. You'd WANT to find it for yourself.
You truly believe all this is just hating for hating's sake? You honestly believe that?
I've wanted to find Erotica's answer to this question for many hours, but still find no reply to it from the first post after it was posted because it was simply ignored by him. That was his choice, it's not mandatory to answer difficult questions if you don't want to, but what it does achieve, is to reveal a lot about that person from something as simple as silence. |

Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
273
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:27:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: Plenty of people are happy to call homosexuals "obvious piece(s) of filth".
Yes. You'll find most of those in your coalition.
Although there is an element of nastiness in all online communities, EVE really is in rancid league of it's own. Don't Panic.
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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Retribution.
161
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:27:00 -
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I have been playing this game for many many years now, and have never really been comfortable with the whole scamming thing. I think it spoils the game and actually drives people away. Scamming as become so prevalent in Eve its over taken the good aspects of it. Look at jita every single post in chat is a scam.
I dont like the fact that goonswarm do this constantly to a point its part of their culture, and sometimes the way they do it is a little creepy and weird and wrong.
But this is a whole new level, and its just not about a scam, its cyber bullying, torture at is very worse. I am sure this is certainly not the first case of this and its happening to others by other eve players.
You can hear from the start where this was going, and Erotica1 sounds really creepy tbh. They carried on for 2 hours, even when they knew the guy was getting upset, this is when you stop. Actually it should of never started.
This is for me the real darkside of eve, and where scamming takes it past gameplay. I have never played or seen a game that allows this to happen, or even breeds that type of person. The very idea of scamming has created these people, and CCP certainly has to take brunt of the blame for this as they endorse this type of behavior, but its gone a a step too far. as stated I am sure there are many Erotica1s lurking about.
This is just not scamming, its parasidic and morally wrong. Personally i would of called the police and given them the recording as people are now getting prosecuted for this type of thing. What gets me most is that there have been a few cases on twitter etc where people have committed suicide because of people like this. What if this guy did?
CCP has a duty just like twitter and others to protect its users.
However being a veteran player of this game, even after the time an investment i have made, every moral fibre in me is twitching. I am now seriously thinking do i want to pay, play or be a part of this game, ccp and its community if this is something that is happening to people. I certainly do not want to be associated with an organisation or game that endorses such actions and game play anymore.
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Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
49
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:28:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:I'm here simply to address the flood of burning hatred and mouth froth stinking up my forums. Also, because it's entertaining. Stupid people are fun.
You realize this makes most people just ignore you , don't you? Don't answer that, I'm not bothering with you no more. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
867
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:28:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:False. I have expressed no such thing.
... ...
So you are deliberately misrepresenting my words, with intent to libel... Actually you wrote more than once that you would laugh and applaud at seeing someone kick him in the head.
You also wrote that you would seize his assets and ban his accounts just to see him rage and cry (and that this would be hilarious).
There is no misinterpretation with any intent to libel.
It's an unfortunate way you wrote what you did, on more than one occasion. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |

MoonWalker Charlie
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:28:00 -
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I see a lot of people calling for bans, which i dont see necessary.. Why not rather Concord his ass, seize all his (Ip) assets except a ship and what it can carry, make him a permanent outlaw from empire space, and let him continue playing as a lowsec pirate for a year or two, which in effect stops his "business" of abuse.
Further more seize 10% of the combined assets of his accomplices, so they can for the forseable future remind E1 that a bad idea is bad.
Take the assets and donate them to an organisation for child abuse or simmilar. problem solved, ccp image restored, playerbase satisfied.
Now that would give me a god giggle.. |
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