I posted that a caracal before that can do it no problems and would almost certainly survive long enough for the slower ships to get into range.

35k EHP, 2117 m/s

Sure, it won't kill it alone, but it's there for tackle.

Is it actually, you fit a long point with nanofibers and MWD which ensures you won't die to slower targets while also fitting for projected dps at 20+ km. This is a choice you make in the fitting window, that's why you use kiting ships in the first place.

Anyone out there aside from me dislike how powerful attack battlecruisers are? I am not saying they are OP, but a minor damage nerf would be nice IMO.

This would only work if your target selection was limited to ships that were slower than you, had less cap and couldn't project outside of 20km. Every ship can win through RPS but that doesn't mean that pilot skill doesn't matter and that changes which reduce the importance of pilot skill and increase the RPS nature of the game are good. Pilot skill rather than the fit are the determining factor in 99% of my engagements, whether I win or lose.

[Maybe in your game, where you orbit an anchor and its either you have enough logi or you dont, but there are viable game play styles where manual piloting and fast decision making determine fights, rather than who has the most people

And now you're starting to change the subject, which generally is another bad sign of realising you're losing the argument. "who has the most people" has nothing to do with the MMJD, at all. In fact it's the other way round; it allows a BC to get away from a horde of [insert kiting ships but probably crows], surely you'd enjoy other ships than just yours being able to get away from trouble they don't want to handle?

Back on topic.

This will allow it to be tackled by multiple long points, or a faction long point, or a scripted HIC (credit to badboymark)


*Edited to update suggestions.

Last 3 interceptor gangs I fought all had scrams. A bc isnt getting away from them. Its also not killing them since the gangs had a sentinel and another 5 or 6 tds.

you're again evading the main point, good.

Also, nothing will change in that scenario other than said BC gimping himself even more due to wasting a mid slot and fitting. I fail to see the problem?

The one of the main reason alot of 0.0 alliance stopped using battlecruisers in fleets is becuase of bombs particulary agaisnt the Attack Battlecrsuiers. How about addressing bombs before adding a new module. (yes mjd bc would help but it opens up more room for sillyness rather than game balance).

But if they probably going ot be in game anyway, the cool down should be greater than that of larger version, 5-6mins atleast.

You are right, in that one scenario of a battlecruiser jumping into an inty swarm, this will not save him. Neither will stabs, ecm, or anything else.

You seem to be confused. I suggest reading the arguments being made against the module, instead of making up your own.

I have some errands to run, so while I am gone, you shoud read through the thread so you can stop constructing straw men.

Dear CCP Fozzie, what about counter-measures? AFAIK when MJD (large version) was just introduced CCP had an idea to deal with it using Mobile MJD Disruptors. But currently we have only one thing - Warp Scrambler and this is not enough ofc.

So my proposal as counter-measures (just a list of different variations):

• New mobile structure - Mobile MJD Disruptor (one size, T1/T2/Faction, radius as Large Mobile Warp Disruptor, affects only MJD ability and doesn't prevent usual warp or jump, also can't be anchored in activation range of Mobile Microjump structure)
• New probe for Interdiction Sphere Launcher - *%name%* Disrupt Probe (radius/volume as Warp Disrupt Probe, affects only MJD ability and doesn't prevent usual warp or jump)
• New script for Heavy Interdictors - Focused *%name%* Disruption (and again affects only MJD ability and doesn't prevent usual warp or jump)

So you realize that a player witha BRAIN will click align to a place, overheat MWD while the MDJ spolls up? Movign basically as fast as your caracal? And that means your caracal will take more time to get within 9 km?

Stop witht he spreadsheet thinking. Battleships were easier to catch, but BC will be nearly impossible at a regional gate when you are alone and quite hard if you are unlucky at the gate jump positioning.

So now they have the MWD and the MJD and are almost as fast as a cruiser? Just how many slots do you think these BCs have? A HAM drake is what, 1000m/s before heat? So the caracal is twice as fast. You'd have to be REALLY unlucky to not catch it.

Also, that was a versatile caracal, if you REALLY have OCD about a BC never escaping, buy something faster and dedicate it to the role, they'll never escape.

Oh, wait. You're still narked about being alone and at a specific gate type

I suggest you stop with the "in this specific set of contrived circumstance, they will escape" e.g. alone, in a slow cruiser at a giant gate then maybe the prey slips past.

That Caracal will die though.

Not that i give a **** about how easy it is to gatecamp. I'm more concerned with twats in uncatchable arty nado's

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When you find some factual and reasonable arguments feel free to point them out to me. So far all I see is "waaah, my kiting back bone, I might lose a BC kill".

I'm more concerned with twats in uncatchable arty nado's

Why because you can no longer perma-tackle with your insert long point, snaked, and/or boosted insert annoying frig here against a brawler? Shame on you. No one is stopping you from committing to a fight like a brawler has to. Now the brawler has the same ability to disengage from the kiter when he knows he can't catch him.

EDIT: p.s. Bring a scram and all of your problems are solved. It's not like every ship in game minus a BS is faster than a BC or CS....

Well i also rather dislike essentially making BC's immune to long points.. I don't really see the value in that. The game doesn't really need more ways you can be a risk adverse ****.

Well i also rather dislike essentially making BC's immune to long points.. I don't really see the value in that. The game doesn't really need more ways you can be a risk adverse ****.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the continued feedback.

We're going to remove Attack Battlecruisers from the list of ships that can use this module in the first iteration, since there are some legitimate concerns with how this would interact with ABCs in small gang combat.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the continued feedback.

We're going to remove Attack Battlecruisers from the list of ships that can use this module in the first iteration, since there are some legitimate concerns with how this would interact with ABCs in small gang combat.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the continued feedback.

We're going to remove Attack Battlecruisers from the list of ships that can use this module in the first iteration, since there are some legitimate concerns with how this would interact with ABCs in small gang combat.

Hey everyone. Thanks for the continued feedback.

We're going to remove Attack Battlecruisers from the list of ships that can use this module in the first iteration, since there are some legitimate concerns with how this would interact with ABCs in small gang combat.

How about returning functionality to the hic infinity point and giving dictors some sort of specialized probe to balance this?

I think that dictors (not HIC's) should be able to fit a "special" 24km warp disruptor that shuts off MJD's (and maybe MWD's) which would give these ships some use outside of bubbling and null sec

I mean.... if people are developing this technology it would stand to reason that people would be developing a countermeasure