Except the first thing they are going to do once longpointed is activate their own mjds.

I don't understand why people think BC's need a buff stats wise?

They are in a weird middle spot like dessies.. but they are still excellent bang for buck when you consider the dps/tank they bring to the field for that amount of isk.

CCP: "We're going to give BC a specific niche by giving it MJD because we feel that kiting (just like the old nano age and WCS) means that people can fight without having to commit to it, that's just not right given that these BC tend to be fairly slow compared to other ships. This way BC aren't able to keep up with fast roaming gangs but on the up side they can force you to commit to a fight if you want to kill them"

players: "YOU CAN'T DO THIS, THIS COMPLETELY MESSES UP MY BUBBLE/KITE err... THE GAME! DOOM, HORROR, CTHULHU AGAIN WTF"

Please stop with these stupid knee jerk suggestions. You would break much more stuff than the imaginary problem you are trying to fix by doing something as stupid as this.

Maybe people should be concerned when the ability to kite is being removed?

My favorite solo PVP ships are brawling BCs, and this change could benefit me greatly. I've already worked out a nice fit for a HAMDrake with a MWD and MMJD. Basically either you fly within range of my web/scram/730DPS/63kEHP and have a scram fitted, or I'm just simply going to leave when I wish to.

And yet I still don't think it's a good idea.

I don't understand why people think BC's need a buff stats wise?

They are in a weird middle spot like dessies.. but they are still excellent bang for buck when you consider the dps/tank they bring to the field for that amount of isk.

Really?


They don't do more DPS than cruisers, and don't really tank much more.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen someone flying a BC while soloing (not counting ABCs), and I can't remember the last time that I saw a fleet of BCs.

You can solo most BCs in a thorax without it being a particularly challenging fight.

They don't do more DPS than cruisers, and don't really tank much more.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen someone flying a BC while soloing (not counting ABCs), and I can't remember the last time that I saw a fleet of BCs.

You can solo most BCs in a thorax without it being a particularly challenging fight.

Really?


They don't do more DPS than cruisers, and don't really tank much more.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen someone flying a BC while soloing (not counting ABCs), and I can't remember the last time that I saw a fleet of BCs.

You can solo most BCs in a thorax without it being a particularly challenging fight.

Really?


They don't do more DPS than cruisers, and don't really tank much more.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen someone flying a BC while soloing (not counting ABCs), and I can't remember the last time that I saw a fleet of BCs.

You can solo most BCs in a thorax without it being a particularly challenging fight.

Battlecruisers have been a little overshadowed by battleships and cruisers in recent months and having the option to use MJDs combined with their dps and low cost should create some interesting chances for clever players to show off their abilities.

Battlecruisers, BC's

reading, folks. It does help.

any of you picturing quick jumps to get those darn snipers 100km off the gate?

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CCP: "We're going to nerf mobility on BC because atm they're way too powerful and make the pvp landscape rather limited and boring"

players: "YOU CAN'T DO THIS, IT WILL COMPLETELY MESS UP MY CANE BACKBONE... err THE GAME! DOOM, HORROR, CTHULHU. YOU'll BREAK THIS GAME SO MUCH IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY BECAUSE I CAN'T COMPREHEND THE RESULTS OF THIS CHANGE AND COMING UP WITH ADAPTATIONS SOUNDS LIKE EFFORT!"

:changes happen, some time passes and ppl adapt:

players: "hey, this is actually nice. Now we can fly funky cruisers and frigs because they're not made redundant anymore by Canes and Drakes. Pretty cool tbh"


CCP: "We're going to give BC a specific niche by giving it MJD because we feel that kiting (just like the old nano age and WCS) means that people can fight without having to commit to it, that's just not right given that these BC tend to be fairly slow compared to other ships. This way BC aren't able to keep up with fast roaming gangs but on the up side they can force you to commit to a fight if you want to kill them"

players: "YOU CAN'T DO THIS, THIS COMPLETELY MESSES UP MY BUBBLE/KITE err... THE GAME! DOOM, HORROR, CTHULHU AGAIN WTF"

people who have a clue: "well, it's a bit weird but sure, I can see where you're going with that but please, CBC only. Not ABC"



History repeats itself, again and again.

Hey, DEVs, what do you think about interdiction of warp for Tier3? 10sec and we at 80km from bubble, one the optimal. We can refain our Interdictors and HD? Big difference between MJD on BS and BC, Tier3 have comparative mobility with Cruisers. That for mania with new modules, especially with MJD? MJD have no counter-measures, don't speak to me about scram and that I will burst out laughing

/Vanga mode on: again there will be one roams from Naga`s/Tornado, only now not audible...

Not a huge fan of this module to be honest. Kind of helps kill off even further something that I love which is range control ships such as vagabonds. Please reconsider these changes.

The fact aht we addapted doe snto mean that now is better than before.


And The constant nerfign of ANY tactic that is not gallente in the face blaster brwaling is gettign tiresome.

If in the face brwaling is supposed to be the ONLY way to play.. why would anyone have any other race trained?

The fact aht we addapted doe snto mean that now is better than before.


And The constant nerfign of ANY tactic that is not gallente in the face blaster brwaling is gettign tiresome.

If in the face brwaling is supposed to be the ONLY way to play.. why would anyone have any other race trained?

To all the crybabies:
Go to EFT and make a copy of your favorite CBC fit. Now replace one of your midslots with a T2 medium MWD (mMJD uses one more CPU). Now downgrade your guns and/or tank to make it actually fit. Now compare your old fit with your new fit. Now notice it has less utility, tank and/o gank. Now realize it won't be OP. Now stop crying.

To CCP:
ABCs don't actually need to make a lot of sacrifices besides an utility med and some ACR rigs. To stop ABCs from potentially break, and to keep the same ratios, I strongly recommend you reduce jump range and spool-up time by 25-50%. This would give it around the same align:spool-up and lockrange:jumprange as battleships, be less OP for ABCs and equally or more useful for CBCs.

Auto cannons, Blasters and HAM's (even drones are good vs hard tackled ships) are really good within scram/web range. I can think of many ships that use these and most aren't Gallente

Yes, it is better because there's more diversity. If you can't see that you were part of the problem

Nice strawman, it's not the only way to play but it will be the way to play if you want to attack a BC, assuming he fitted MJD.