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Arronicus
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
971
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:35:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:Battlecruisers, BC's
reading, folks. It does help.
any of you picturing quick jumps to get those darn snipers 100km off the gate?
m And what if they are 120km away instead, and have their own mjd?
Then they better start spooling their MJD as soon as we start spooling ours, because it's not going to take more than 8 seconds to get into scram range and tackle one with a talos overheating the mwd and scram. |
darius mclever
71
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:36:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:This is terrible don't do this, you're making it increasingly easy to avoid combat in a game where picking a fight can already be an extreme challenge.
I can see it on the DST, but not for the BC or CS. |
Calsys
Monks of War
105
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:37:00 -
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hi ccp
i think its really "nice" improvement of this game
finally i can quit
cancel subscription on my 7 characters f**k you. |
twit brent
Black Anvil Industries SpaceMonkey's Alliance
9
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:37:00 -
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This would only be a good idea if long points disabled them.
Needing tackle to get within scram range of battle cruisers is all kinds of stupid. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
402
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:39:00 -
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darius mclever wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:This is terrible don't do this, you're making it increasingly easy to avoid combat in a game where picking a fight can already be an extreme challenge. I can see it on the DST, but not for the BC or CS.
I agree, it is a good module to use on the Transport Ship, if the spool timer was lower. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Suitonia
Path of Radiance HYDRA RELOADED
246
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:39:00 -
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I pretty much agree with Elise. I don't think this will change much for the Attack Battlecruisers. I think it is also questionable giving the ability to Command Ships as they are also really strong right now.
I think this would be great on the Combat Battlecruisers though, HML Drakes, Arty Hurricanes, FEROXES, etc. are outclassed by Sniper T3s/CS/Attack BCs, and it would give them a new niche, and also allowing some close range Combat BCs the option to escape like Brutix / Harbinger could be fun.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2686
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:39:00 -
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Calsys wrote:hi ccp
i think its really "nice" improvement of this game
finally i can quit
cancel subscription on my 7 characters f**k you.
Bye.
o/ Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
377
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:41:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:MMJD should be affected by long points and bubbles.
Reasons for this are already posted. WORD
Make it so longpoints disrupt MMJD (except on deep space transports, they need some kind of edge since they are so useless.
Please don't break game CCP.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Kat Ayclism
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
246
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:42:00 -
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Eagerly awaiting my alliance's horrid loss of Vultures too slow at trying to mjd when they are getting bombed. Or some other nonsense that involves idiots forgetting the sig bloom. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2686
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:43:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Chitsa Jason wrote:The issue with BCs has allways been bomber fleets. MJD thing alleviates that issue a bit but I do think it is a step in wrong direction as it promotes less kill mail for medium gangs. so basically **** this change. what if they reduced the resistance bombs have to 90% or something that way you would reach a finite amount of bombs before they start to kill themselves.
You already do. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1358
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:44:00 -
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With all due respect.. you insane fozzie? BC overshadowd by Battleships? Battleships only shadow asteroids as PVP capabilities. THey are already weak andyou are giving BC the only advantage taht battleships REALLY had? (because NO a bit mor EHP does nto pay off the smaller speed, worse align, WAY WAY worse tracking and damage application).
Battleships need help not less reasons to be used. I think has been a few months since I saw any non pirate battleship in PVP that was not a Domi or Geddon.
I know BC have almost vanished as well. But that is because their warp speed does nto allow them to support cruisers.
The commands ships are not even sued to give link bonuses for a single reason, they cannot keep up with cruisers whiel the t3 can. THe smaller fleet bonus is NOTHING compared to that.
Want BC size hulls more relevant? Increase their warp speed ( specially command ships.. these NEEED to be 3 au/s) "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1358
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:46:00 -
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twit brent wrote:This would only be a good idea if long points disabled them.
Needing tackle to get within scram range of battle cruisers is all kinds of stupid.
No longpoitns disablign them would negate compeltely the module. They were created because Battleships were USELES and had no advantage. Now they are giving that advantage to another category, making Battleships irrelevant again unless they are domi or geddon "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Orla- King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
29
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:47:00 -
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Calsys wrote:hi ccp
i think its really "nice" improvement of this game
finally i can quit
cancel subscription on my 7 characters f**k you. can i have your isk to spend on these glorious modules? |
Calsys
Monks of War
105
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:49:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote: Bye.
o/
\o/
Orla- King-Griffin wrote:Calsys wrote:hi ccp
i think its really "nice" improvement of this game
finally i can quit
cancel subscription on my 7 characters f**k you. can i have your isk to spend on these glorious modules? nope |
Aspalis
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1236
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:51:00 -
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Calsys wrote:Domanique Altares wrote: Bye.
o/
\o/ Orla- King-Griffin wrote:Calsys wrote:hi ccp
i think its really "nice" improvement of this game
finally i can quit
cancel subscription on my 7 characters f**k you. can i have your isk to spend on these glorious modules? nope
Would you join me on comms to cry about leaving some more? Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry." |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1188
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:52:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Michael Harari wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:Battlecruisers, BC's
reading, folks. It does help.
any of you picturing quick jumps to get those darn snipers 100km off the gate?
m And what if they are 120km away instead, and have their own mjd? Then they better start spooling their MJD as soon as we start spooling ours, because it's not going to take more than 8 seconds to get into scram range and tackle one with a talos overheating the mwd and scram.
So you run mjd mwd longpoint scram sebo talos?
It has only 4 mids |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
402
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:53:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:MMJD should be affected by long points and bubbles.
Reasons for this are already posted. WORD Make it so longpoints and bubbles disrupt MMJD (except on deep space transports, they need some kind of edge since they are so useless. Please don't break game CCP.
No. The whole point of the module is to get you outside of the bubble. It is not that hard to get a scram on something. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Bland Inquisitor
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
20
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:53:00 -
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if we could go back to warping at 10km from gates instead of 0km that would be great. |
ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors Get Off My Lawn
119
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Looks amazing, do it, do it. Empyrean Warriors - Recruiting now. Fly together, die together. |
Reppyk
The Black Shell Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
570
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:55:00 -
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I do NOT support at all this change.
The warp speed change (16s deceleration on grid, +the lock time. Any plated BS can warp off in 11s, meaning it's impossible to fight someone that is not AFK) and the removing of the tiers already nerfed a lot the battleship class.
The MJD is the only thing that allows them to still be usable, outside of big blobs. You can snipe with it, you can go ball deeps with it, you can force the opponent to get in scramble range to stop you.
Battlecruisers are much better than BS to fight into scramble range due to their medium guns.
This is a bad, bad idea. I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. -áI AM A LOWSEC GANKER, HIGHSEC SCUM, NULLSEC BASTARD, WORMHOLE INVADER. Welcome to, welcome to, welcome to my scramble. GÖŃ |
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X4m
Revenge of the Liquidators The Marmite Collective
33
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:58:00 -
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when small mjd? Stupid change |
Saul Elsyn
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
133
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:59:00 -
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I think people that are complaining the most here are forgetting just how situationally based MJDs are. They're good for getting out of bubbles and escaping bombing runs, but that's about it... And they require a level of skill and situational awareness to use. Considering it's the smallest ships that are the ones most likely to die in a bombing run, good for CCP... in fact CCP, give em to cruiser hulls in general.
What's the Small Micro-Jump Drive going to be mounted on? Destroyers? Cruisers? HACs? HICs? Interdictors? Makes you wonder. |
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
35
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:01:00 -
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Gave it some thought, don't like the idea at all.
This will especially hurt the solo/kiting sort of guys who already have a hard time finding suitable fights ... |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1360
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:03:00 -
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Saul Elsyn wrote:I think people that are complaining the most here are forgetting just how situationally based MJDs are. They're good for getting out of bubbles and escaping bombing runs, but that's about it... And they require a level of skill and situational awareness to use. Considering it's the smallest ships that are the ones most likely to die in a bombing run, good for CCP... in fact CCP, give em to cruiser hulls in general.
What's the Small Micro-Jump Drive going to be mounted on? Destroyers? Cruisers? HACs? HICs? Interdictors? Makes you wonder.
Waht? Require skill? Panick pressign a button then warpign to a station is NOT skill.
It will make solo and double team pvp even harder than it is now. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Myrthiis
Boon Odd Ducks Bath Toys
8
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:03:00 -
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Useless,unwanted and unbalanced module . |
Calsys
Monks of War
105
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:03:00 -
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Ab'del Abu wrote:Gave it some thought, don't like the idea at all.
This will especially hurt the solo/kiting sort of guys who already have a hard time finding suitable fights ... its hard to find this fights now its impossible to find it later
great job!
DIE SOLO PVP! DIE!
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1361
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:06:00 -
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BTW, unrelated. .but MEDIUM MICRO or LARGE MICRO both are oximorons.. Find less dumb names than large small thing please. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Alghara
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:13:00 -
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Fozzie ....
Do you play still at EVE ?
I am not sure.
CCP have try to balanced the ship since 2 years right now and with the three last patch and the new announcement your break completely the game.
Drone : Make modification on drone it's good idea, but when you authorise to use the damage mode on fighter and fighter bomber you are completely becoming to break the balance. That will be drone land.
Carrier was logistic ship not attack ship. Motherboard must be only anti capital ship.
Micro jump drive : You have introduce the micro jump drive, because you have make some modification on the probing, the probing have completely remove the snipe fleet. But in the same time you completely kill the disrupt and the bubble. The original problem is only the time we make to probe a fleet ...
Inty : Nullifier, again the main problem with inty was too weak. it's not difficult to understand why. If you give some bonus on ship without buffer, it's absolutely not efficient. Reduce the sig or add some bonus and resistance is only efficient when you have a minimum of buffer. The inty need only to have more buffer without penality on the speed to be more efficient. With the bonus on the nullifier you have began to broke the balancing. And again dictor and hid was less useful.
Eve become to be boring because not a lot of ship are slow (hull higher than BC). With the new hull of freighter that will be terrible.
Do you seriously play to EVE or do you seriously understand what is balancing.
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Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures Rim Worlds Protectorate
35
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:24:00 -
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MJD on BS was a good idea, and I still support it.
This, is not for reasons already stated. If you must go through with it, can you buff the EHP of my ares? if I'm going to have to fly into scram range of everything, I'd at least like to pretend I can survive there.
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Rainbow Eyes
Sora no Otoshimano
5
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:25:00 -
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Cancel subscribe. This is imbalance, you kill kite ships and ships with WarpDis. Nevermind. Non interdiction Tier3 BC fleet. CCP, change your drugdiller. Bye.
/me: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU~
GIF with my reaction. http://s.pikabu.ru/post_img/2013/02/05/8/1360067178_138842763.gif |
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