You're forgetting that there are a Handful of non-Ishtar ships out there that have exactly 100 Mbit bandwidth that could see this as a stealth buff, not to mention the folks that fly w/ 75Mbit bandwidth that could run a 3+2 heavy/medium setup.

Also, there are a few frigs/destros out there (tristan, algos, Dragoon) that would now be able to field a Heavy. I'm betting that's not in the design process.

And what would be the bonuses for the ishtar? Then you need to find new bonuses to replace the sentry ones.. The ishtar is a ship very hard to balance.

At the end.. the final solution for this and the correlated problem would be to nerf ALL sentry drones tracking by some 30%.

Yet rails have never alphad a tengue on an undock before. Arty need to have their damaged reduced slightly and have their ROF upped slightly

It's worth making these threads just to get to talk with you Capqu.

Back with real responses after next meeting.

It's worth making these threads just to get to talk with you Capqu.

Back with real responses after next meeting.

Then you're bringing them in to be redundant to rail guns and beams which defeats the purpose of alpha artillery

@CCP Rise - For battleships, They would be used more if you Nerf Tier 3 battlecruisers.

264 DPS - Omen 5x Heavy Beam Lasers II (Multifreq)
356 DPS - Harbenger 6x Heavy Beam Lasers II
455 DPS - Oracle 8x Tachyon Beam Laser II
455 DPS - Abaddon 8x Tachyon Beam Laser II

Removing 1 turret slot from the oracle drops it to 398 DPS

But Caldari gets even better.

272 DPS - Moa 5x Heavy Neutron Blasters
305 DPS - Ferox 7x Heavy Neutron Blasters
584 DPS - Naga 8x Neutron Blaster Cannon
467 DPS - Rokh 8x Neutron Blaster Cannon

I cannot be blind. There is a major disconnect here. A lot of people will say "Oh but the tank will off set the imbalance in DPS"
NO.
IT.
DOESN'T.

Rise - For battleships, They would be used more if you Nerf Tier 3 battlecruisers.

264 DPS - Omen 5x Heavy Beam Lasers II (Multifreq)
356 DPS - Harbenger 6x Heavy Beam Lasers II
455 DPS - Oracle 8x Tachyon Beam Laser II
455 DPS - Abaddon 8x Tachyon Beam Laser II

Removing 1 turret slot from the oracle drops it to 398 DPS

But Caldari gets even better.

272 DPS - Moa 5x Heavy Neutron Blasters
305 DPS - Ferox 7x Heavy Neutron Blasters
584 DPS - Naga 8x Neutron Blaster Cannon
467 DPS - Rokh 8x Neutron Blaster Cannon

I cannot be blind. There is a major disconnect here. A lot of people will say "Oh but the tank will off set the imbalance in DPS"
NO.
IT.
DOESN'T.

I am not saying reduce to lvls of rails or beams more in the line of 8k vollys, 12k is to high and is being abused is so many ways in this game. Yes some ships will still die to this but most ships that should not die to a single shot will no longer.

I like how the Muninn is so irrelevant that people have barely mentioned it here.

because its theorethical niche does not exist in eve. Its alpha strike capability is not enough with 650 mm to kill anythign relevant. And 720mm ones are too fragile to fight anything relevant.

What muninn needs is a 10% increase in PG and CPU.

Battleships seem in an ok place right now? Jesus you must have never tried to run a MWD on a battleship then. Why is the cap use so massive in comparison to other classes

Hi guys

You may or may not have seen me make a post a while back saying that we were intending to do a revisit on battleship and heavy assault cruiser balance for this summer, and I can now be a little more specific with you about that!

After digging into this we were both happy and a bit surprised to find that there weren't a lot of clear changes needed. Battleships especially seem to be in a pretty solid place. There are ships within the class getting less use than others, but that is almost completely due to either the meta favoring certain things (this is why the Abaddon isn't seeing a lot of action for example) or due to the ship falling into a niche that isn't extremely popular even though the ship performs exceptionally in that niche (the Hyperion is a great example of this). So the result is that for now we are going to leave BS alone and keep checking back for opportunities to make improvements.

HACs on the other hand are a slightly different story. In general the class gained a lot of power in the last pass and it's seeing plenty of use across the board, but there are some pretty clear imbalances between certain ships in the class. If you've undocked lately you probably know the Ishtar especially is a little out of control. Here's the small set of changes we're going to make:

Ishtar:
Bonus to drone tracking and optimal range from 7.5% per level -> 5% per level
Max Velocity from 195 -> 185

Eagle:
Max Velocity from 180 -> 190

Muninn:
Max velocity from 210 -> 230

We expect that some of you will feel this is far too gentle on the Ishtar, and we understand that (it's what we heard from the CSM as well), but we get releases very often now and we're happy to be conservative here, rather than nuke it out of the game, and just make more changes if they're needed in the following release.

Looking forward to your feedback as always

PS - how would you feel about an 8/4/7 Tempest?

Note for clarity: Hyperion release date is August 26

Hyperion's release date is September 23, 2014, so after the AT.

gun boat battleships generally have really really bad capacitor problems to the point they must run heavy capacitor boosters with 800's or be useless within a minute or less

the abaddon is the perfect example of this, large lasers use an incredible amount of cap to fire, if you add anything to an abaddon that uses cap, tracking computers, active hardeners or anything it becomes extremely hard to fly, thats not even counting a microwarp drive, afterburner is always a bad choice on heavy ships like that

and its not just the abaddon, the abaddon is just the worst offender, the hyperion and other cap hungry ships are the same but its funny because the Rohk doesn't have this problem really, the megathron and hyperion do.

According to the thread title, it says Hyperion.
According to this and this, Hyperion's Release date is September 23rd. (which may be incorrect).

Accoding to CCP Fozzie's recent tweet, it will go live on Aug 26th, in the middle of the Tourney.

Is hyperion being moved up, is CCP Fozzie wrong, or can we please remove the "Hyperion" tag on this F&I post since it will be released PRIOR to Hyperion?

The Tempest is one of the Republic Fleet's key vessels; a versatile gunship proficient at long-range bombardment and capable of dishing out specialized types of damage with great effectiveness.