We use fast cruiser gangs, if someone tries to take sov we deploy the main fleets. This isn't going to be hard to adapt to.

Why are some of your members whinging and rage quitting on this thread then if it doesn't affect you. I agree, goonswarm will still be able to easily protect its empire with subcapitals, but your line soldiers all seem to be throwing toys out the pram and quitting, in which case you wont have pilots to fly said sub capitals.

I look forward to the firesales on supers and titans.

I just wonder how much revenue CCP will not be getting because I know of at least 45 accounts (some with multiple character training) that have been canceled due to this. It removes their ability to move their mining materials out to sell them.

Look, if you can effectively do that more power to you. It definitely should create a lot more content in those systems, and if the MOA and their ilk do it right they will actually have more firepower in the fights than the Goons do.

I would propose the same sort of cool down time as the Rorq/JF or even none at all so at least they aren't nerfed into the floor to literally never being used again.

Also perma-lol and the people who still don't realize that they are the one who ends up shafted, not the null sec empires. it's like watching people celebrate when rich people get taxed thinking their government will get more money for services....until the rich guy moves his factory to China..

Because thanks to the way supers work they are now trapped in a ship already rarely used going nowhere fast.

Congratulations CCP, you've made Stain and just about every single NPC 0.0 region uninhabitable.

Good job, I couldnt have created a faster way to kill smaller groups if i tried.

All these complains about how this is going to ruin logistics for the current empires - isn't this, like, the purpose of this change?

As to the details, they surely need some tweaking and corrections. Perhaps indeed a non-combat capital ship able to transport fitted subcaps and enjoying the JF/Rorq bonuses should be considered. The Black Ops and BO bridging should certainly be less affected. But overall, this change is going to make the game actually fun for individual players rather than a Rental Empire Simulator it is now.

Black Ops ships will have their range unchanged, but will otherwise get all the described changes. This also keeps the range of their jump portals unchanged. We donGÇÖt feel that Black Ops range needs adjustment right now.

...the fatigue is multiplied after each jump by 1 + (light years travelled).

Why are some of your members whinging and rage quitting on this thread then if it doesn't affect you. I agree, goonswarm will still be able to easily protect its empire with subcapitals, but your line soldiers all seem to be throwing toys out the pram and quitting, in which case you wont have pilots to fly said sub capitals.

Ohhh, the sub-droppings. Finally PLEX prices will come down.

I have one word to describe this changes - EPIC. Truly EPIC

Finally CCP is going to do major step foward in game mechanic!
Its simple change but it's scale is like Apocrypha.
I'm feeling like we are heading back to pre Jump Freighter era, when most nullsec traffic had to go throu lowsec with much risk involved and.. well effort.
Definitely lowsec will become a place what it was once in the past, without hundred strong alliances ready to hotdrop you anywhere, anytime.

The least lowsec needs is powerblocks.
For all small - medium lowsec entities it's a Christmass time!

For nullsec it also brings a major change - most obvious is that it will be very hard to hold and control vast areas of space throu limited fleet ranges.

Great job CCP,
Hornestly, you brought back a hope to my heart that game will go in the right direction,
also you just earned my 420 Euros from subbing all may accounts for a year upfront.

Because thanks to the way supers work they are now trapped in a ship already rarely used going nowhere fast.

EVE had fewer players and alts back then. Lots of things have changed. you can't nerf 1 thing and recreate some rose colored glasses glory days that never really existed in the 1st place. EVERYONE forgets how people begged and begged and begged CCP for an easier way to more around EVE "because using gates sucks and takes too long and gates get camped all the time and it's not fair!!!".

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I'm sorry to say that you are (once again) penalizing the small entrepreneurial groups with your changes and it's going to kill the game.

My current JF route is slightly over 30 LYs and requires 3 jumps with maximum skills. As I understand it, I am now going to need seven (7) jumps to get to my destination, aside from cool down timers. Please do not tell me to use gates, that is simply absurd since I can't have a subcap fleet with me every time I need to bring fuel/supplies back to null.

I am sure there are many pilots who have to jump even longer distances with JFs and while I understand your logic for trying to slow down bat phone deployments, this change will impact the average null bear in a detrimental way for the game. Why are JFs being penalized in the same way as SCs or caps?

I am afraid that if this change goes through as announced, I'll be looking for something else to do with my spare time. It was fun while it lasted.

To everyone rage quitting EVE...

Seriously... can I have all your ISK, and assets?

Legit, if you're quitting, give me your stuff.

Great - stupid tidi battles.

Well, here's a thing Hasher: if that is the objective, wouldn't it just be simpler to actually go back? Remove JF , nerf even harder other Capital jump capability, reimburse all related SP etc.?