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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
676
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:47:04 -
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Arrendis wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:LMAO so i looked you up. Your corp has 16 members. Hope... PRAY... we don't f'king run into you cause i'll SRP our entire fleet out of my own pocket if necessary to make you cry like the little renter ***** you are. I just want to point out some basic killboard stats: Buttecorp INC: Destroyed 2.19b Lost: 3.26b Blue-Fire: Destroyed 2.05t Lost 690b By the looks of it if we brought the fight you would get your s_hit pushed in as i would expect of any typical nullbear corp hiding behind a big alliance ticker. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/911536135/
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98122843/
Your are a small fish in a big pond with ***** envy. Now look up 'Goonswarm Federation', and while you're at it, 'The Clusterfuck Coalition'.
Are you going to move the entire CFC fleet to defend him?
Ella's Snack bar
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10052
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:47:24 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote:
He doesn't benefit from the situation. For all his pathetic "tough guy" act. He's bricking it because his alliance didn't get exactly what they wanted from this sov revamp.
That's just useless guilt by association. I feel the same way he does and I'm not a Goon. You're letting your goon prejudice blind you. I've been shooting at goons for 7 years and i don't even feel that way about them. |

Gorgof Intake
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
51
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:47:53 -
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Arrendis wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:LMAO so i looked you up. Your corp has 16 members. Hope... PRAY... we don't f'king run into you cause i'll SRP our entire fleet out of my own pocket if necessary to make you cry like the little renter ***** you are. I just want to point out some basic killboard stats: Buttecorp INC: Destroyed 2.19b Lost: 3.26b Blue-Fire: Destroyed 2.05t Lost 690b By the looks of it if we brought the fight you would get your s_hit pushed in as i would expect of any typical nullbear corp hiding behind a big alliance ticker. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/911536135/
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98122843/
Your are a small fish in a big pond with ***** envy. Now look up 'Goonswarm Federation', and while you're at it, 'The Clusterfuck Coalition'.
None of which matters when your roster of capable FCs amounts to around half a dozen dudes- maybe a dozen if you stretch it out to incorporate pubbie shitlords.
Can we all stop the phallic measurements and address the actual issues at hand?
Some Thoughts on Sov Mechanics
DEADPACKS: Alternative Sov Mechanic
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Urandas
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:47:57 -
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In general I like the feeling of being forced to hold a grid while you capture an objective. But unfortunately the 'prime time' just seems to lucrative and would discourage people of other TZ's. As regards to the troll ceptor It would be an issue because sov holders like to respond to timers because a fast form up to deal with someone reinforcing a tower is too difficult and generally the aggressors already have the number advantage. Supers and dreads have vertually no use in this system but triage carriers would be great for helping the holding grid. Battleships need more love (they do, screw your statistics, I want to fly a baltec again!) (or nerf bombs :) ). So I would give the link thingy heavier fitting requirements or force it to be used on cruiser and larger ships so they could be catched unlike the trollceptor. I think you could catch an nully/cloaky/loki with a ceptor if it started a cycle. but ceptors them selves are too annoying to catch. Also I think the spread out of targets between a constellation needs some fine tuning personally. But again this is all subject to change. :) |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:48:06 -
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Starrakatt wrote:Princess Cherista wrote:Summer 2015: our inties and nullified no-commit fits will blot out the sun  And thus it begins. As a (Hisec) merc, most, if not all, Nulsec entities always shrugged and sported dismissive comments on how mercs were not affecting them, only killing the Hisec bads/random nul ratters, depending where the mercs were operating from. With the Entosis Ceptor, being cheap ships and with minimal risks, even scrub Hisec mercs can go down in nul and 'affect', read **** them off no end (the dream of any merc's client), said entities by trolling their Sov timers, yes. While they can do squat to us, in our Hisec safety. Thank you CCP, THANK YOU.
Mercs still won't have much of an effect, really. It'll mostly be standing defense fleets, which already exist in many places, they just don't get a lot of press. |

Proton Stars
OREfull
52
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:48:42 -
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this thread seems to have lost trac, so let me help put it back on the rails...
THESE CHANGES ARE TERRIBLE. |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
676
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:49:21 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:LMAO so i looked you up. Your corp has 16 members. Hope... PRAY... we don't f'king run into you cause i'll SRP our entire fleet out of my own pocket if necessary to make you cry like the little renter ***** you are. I just want to point out some basic killboard stats: Buttecorp INC: Destroyed 2.19b Lost: 3.26b Blue-Fire: Destroyed 2.05t Lost 690b By the looks of it if we brought the fight you would get your s_hit pushed in as i would expect of any typical nullbear corp hiding behind a big alliance ticker. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/911536135/
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98122843/
Your are a small fish in a big pond with ***** envy. you do realize what an alt corp is, right frankly i'm surprised we've destroyed 2.19b as i don't know that this altcorp has anyone who can fire a gun right now, though zkillboard seems to be shitting itself so i can't see but go ahead and bark, my capital pilot in goonwaffe has destroyed close to a quarter of what your entire corporation has~~~
Big deal, you are still posting with an industrial alt which does kinda lesson the impact of your hammer statement a far bit, actually a lot to be honest.
Ella's Snack bar
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
175
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:49:30 -
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Arrendis wrote:Starrakatt wrote:Princess Cherista wrote:Summer 2015: our inties and nullified no-commit fits will blot out the sun  And thus it begins. As a (Hisec) merc, most, if not all, Nulsec entities always shrugged and sported dismissive comments on how mercs were not affecting them, only killing the Hisec bads/random nul ratters, depending where the mercs were operating from. With the Entosis Ceptor, being cheap ships and with minimal risks, even scrub Hisec mercs can go down in nul and 'affect', read **** them off no end (the dream of any merc's client), said entities by trolling their Sov timers, yes. While they can do squat to us, in our Hisec safety. Thank you CCP, THANK YOU. Mercs still won't have much of an effect, really. It'll mostly be standing defense fleets, which already exist in many places, they just don't get a lot of press. And you now needs a lot more of those standing defence fleets spread out to cover your whole space meaning they'll individually be weaker...so does that roaming solo inty have a cyno and are there ships waiting to jump?
You feel lucky punk? Well do you? |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:50:24 -
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Gorgof Intake wrote:None of which matters when your roster of capable FCs amounts to around half a dozen dudes- maybe a dozen if you stretch it out to incorporate pubbie shitlords.
Can we all stop the phallic measurements and address the actual issues at hand?
Hey, man, my grossly hyperinflated phallic measurements are the issues in my hands! Err... I mean...
Yeah, basically, this all going to get silly, huh?
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
676
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:50:43 -
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Starrakatt wrote:Princess Cherista wrote:Summer 2015: our inties and nullified no-commit fits will blot out the sun  And thus it begins. As a (Hisec) merc, most, if not all, Nulsec entities always shrugged and sported dismissive comments on how mercs were not affecting them, only killing the Hisec bads/random nul ratters, depending where the mercs were operating from. With the Entosis Ceptor, being cheap ships and with minimal risks, even scrub Hisec mercs can go down in nul and 'affect', read **** them off no end (the dream of any merc's client), said entities by trolling their Sov timers, yes. While they can do squat to us, in our Hisec safety. Thank you CCP, THANK YOU.Edit: Now Gevlon Goblin can spend ISK on something useful to destroy Goonswarm. 
And you guys are on my list of mercs to use.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:51:13 -
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Eli Apol wrote:You feel lucky punk? Well do you?
Yup! I do! |

EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
551
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:51:26 -
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Dracvlad wrote: Big deal, you are still posting with an industrial alt which does kinda lesson the impact of your hammer statement a far bit, actually a lot to be honest.
oh no, the pubbies begging ccp to help them are not sufficiently wowed by the last character i happened to log in on from this computer
the shame, the everlasting shame |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30755
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:51:47 -
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re-+crim-+i-+na-+tion r+Ö-îkrim+Ö-ên-üSH(+Ö)n/
noun
an accusation in response to one from someone else. "there are no tears, no recriminations" synonyms: accusation(s), counteraccusation(s), countercharge(s), counterattack(s), retaliation(s) "this is not a time for recrimination, but a time to come together in solidarity"
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
4302
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:52:04 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Speedkermit Damo wrote:
He doesn't benefit from the situation. For all his pathetic "tough guy" act. He's bricking it because his alliance didn't get exactly what they wanted from this sov revamp.
That's just useless guilt by association. I feel the same way he does and I'm not a Goon. You're letting your goon prejudice blind you. I've been shooting at goons for 7 years and i don't even feel that way about them. we call it ad hominem if we like silly words and want to feel really fancy |

Kah'Les
hirr Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:52:45 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:Kah'Les wrote:And if you want to do this it's nothing stoping you already you can set up POS in any system you want don't need SOV and I know small gangs that shut down systems like this already, The fact that you already not doing it show how much you are comidet to this idea already. It's just a fantasie, if this was your goal you would have already done it.
There is an overwhelming perception that it can't be done for newer players because the space LOOKS like it is owned by someone else. Also, you seriously underestimate the importance of having your own name on the map. You CAN live incognito in someone else's **** null, but you don't get to put your name on the map, so why not just go live in a WH instead? I pretty much DO do this, only we do it in a WH. And once the change goes live, we might move to a corner of null instead, who knows? We don't do it now because it doesn't feel like "home" when someone else's name is on the map, but having the convenience of perfect local intel is sure appealing. We already make crap ISK compared to what high sec incursions bring, and that's with the need to fund T3 fleets. Crap null might be even less ISK efficient, but with perfect intel and these sov changes, we would only need to fund intys/AF's and HAC's on that lower income anyway in order to still have fun with anyone passing through. And it doesn't preclude the ability to scan down holes still. Sure, the POS's will be more vulnerable since they can be hotdropped by caps, but the risk of that has become considerably lower with all the other changes. It's not like a POS in a WH is 100% safe either; if someone wants to evict you, they will.
So it's not even the idea of having SOV that is tempting it's just to have you name on some page. CCP realy pulling people to large scall warfare for the right reasones.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30755
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:53:36 -
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Gorgof Intake wrote:None of which matters when your roster of capable FCs amounts to around half a dozen dudes- maybe a dozen if you stretch it out to incorporate pubbie shitlords.
Can we all stop the phallic measurements and address the actual issues at hand?
I'll have you know our list of incapable FCs is much, much longer!
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
175
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:54:55 -
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Arrendis wrote:Eli Apol wrote:You feel lucky punk? Well do you? Yup! I do! That's the spirit!
I don't care either way though - my point was that being forced to actually move out of a station and defend your structures in what might initially be a small scale fight - could well escalate and be fun for all ships and all sizes by the end :) |

KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
80
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:55:30 -
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THESE CHANGES ARE FANTASTIC |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
4302
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:55:51 -
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I didn't get an answer before, so I'll ask again: Do we actually know the fitting requirements of the funky capture mod or is the interceptor talk based on the assumption the mod'll be fittable to frigates?
I don't want to actually argue about it, I just want to know if there's something I'm missing. |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
679
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:56:09 -
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EvilweaselFinance wrote:Dracvlad wrote: Big deal, you are still posting with an industrial alt which does kinda lesson the impact of your hammer statement a far bit, actually a lot to be honest.
oh no, the pubbies begging ccp to help them are not sufficiently wowed by the last character i happened to log in on from this computer the shame, the everlasting shame
You should be embarrassed, not that I care that much, but it does show just how fazed you are by making posts like this, it shows you are not happy with this. I expect that the leadership of the Goons will be able to deal with these changes very easily, especially in fortress Deklin, you should have faith in them.
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
552
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:56:43 -
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oh my mistake, now that zkillboard is up i see my cap pilot has 790b in kills not 450b
so whatever that scrubtier corporation that has 2t split between like 100 guys, lawl |

Terraniel Aurelius
High Flyers The Kadeshi
19
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:57:34 -
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I think it would make sense that these entosis links need to be fit to something that is cruiser sized or larger. That should counter the griefing tactics that have already been devised by most major alliances.
Also, what is the point of having the command nodes show up anywhere within the constellation? Shouldn't they be limited to the sov that is being attacked? I mean, it makes sense if a single entity holds the constellation, but if it's just a single system held by an alliance/corp, then it seems arbitrarily tedious to have to run around all over the place to defend your sov. Sort of like fighting a war in a different country to defend your borders.
This doesn't really do anything to make null any more viable to live in. What about industry changes? Alliances are still forced to import massive amounts of minerals to build ships. How is that going to work for small groups trying to hold a little chunk of space? That seems like it would just keep the current renter-systems status quo. Big alliances can't move into smaller space because the anomalies and belts don't regenerate fast enough with the current indexes. Maybe you should look at that. Seems like it was designed back when you thought there would only be 40 people living in a single system at a time. |

Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
262
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:01:31 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote: could you call yourselves "the honey badger coalition" when you all move into null so we can repeat the last time we squashed a bunch of incompetents like a bug who thought that quantity was quality
Oh I dunno that I've ever run into your corp before, but i'll make a note so when we roll into you and watch you dock up cause you don't want your **** pushed in I can remind you of that big hammer you own.
Dude, he is Goonswarm. If you haven't run into a Goon yet, you aren't doing anything in this game. And yeah, feel free to visit Deklein and maybe we'll let you watch us dock up or something. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6340
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:04:26 -
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We are going to need a fundraiser to buy the ISDs lots of aspirin.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Eli Apol
Pro Synergy
177
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:17:00 -
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Kah'Les wrote:And if people need to use 28 hours a week to stop scrubs from taking systems, it sounds balanced how? The sov system we have now even thou it's grindy at least you only needed to spend 1 hour to stop someone from taking one system compared to making eve a second job with the new system.
Kah'Les wrote:It's a place of comidment and time
Make your mind up son. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1991
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:17:19 -
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Kah'Les wrote:Eli Apol wrote:Kah'Les wrote:I will repeat this as often as possible, null was not made for everyon. It was not made for the fresh out of rookie school noob. It's a place of comidment and time, where the ones that should be able to mainly hold sov do have a plan and man power to carryu out larger operations than those in low sec. So don't revert us to FW 2.0. And yet you can't commit to defending your space for 4 hrs a day against people fresh out of rookie school? And if people need to use 28 hours a week to stop scrubs from taking systems, it sounds balanced how? The sov system we have now even thou it's grindy at least you only needed to spend 1 hour to stop someone from taking one system compared to making eve a second job with the new system.
aaaa pooor guy.. EVE will become too hardcore for you? how sad......
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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lilol' me
Comply Or Die Retribution.
30
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:17:29 -
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prime time should be set and should not be able to be changed just like that With only 96 hours. should be a whole week at least personally a month |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1991
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:20:19 -
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Kah'Les wrote:Just gone make sure to get it out there until I know CCP notice; I'm 100% against entosis links. SOV magic beam is the most lazy, easiest solution and 0% comidment.
Says the guy playing submarines in space... where things collide at relativistic speeds and just bounce like rubber. Where people can stick books into their heads.... where you can track things better far away than close by. Where.. well youg et the idea.. this is a fantasy game
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Lena Lazair
Khanid Irregulars Khanid's Legion
343
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:21:05 -
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lilol' me wrote:OK CCP Fozzie. There is a big elephant in the room for me. What are you going to do about large alliances like NC. and N3 just using their might to effectively own loads and load of regions ( it's getting out of hand) and do as they are now renting every system for billions and do absolutely nothing but use their capital might to stop anyone doing anything.
You can't own large regions on the basis of capital might anymore. Even if we reverted the travel changes, the existing capital/supercap dominance doesn't work when you have to capture 10 or 20 nodes across a constellation. For each group of systems you want to control, everywhere, all at roughly the same time. Every day, because anyone can flip them on a moment's notice if you weren't actually there to defensive E-link to prevent the timer.
What, exactly, are you going to hot drop your caps on? What is the deterrent your supercap fleet provides when the nullfiied cloaky T3 fleet can just go around you and capture sov control nodes in every other system around your big giant fleet?
This isn't to say that strategically critical systems won't still escalate into giant cap battles. But large alliances simply won't be able to lock down "loads of regions" for any length of time without committing significant fleet ops to defend every timer in every single one. And there will be timers, because anyone in an inty can start the timer and anyone with a few T3 cruisers can then cap 10 or 20 control nodes on a whim. And the large groups cannot stop any of this unless they commit an actual fleet to stopping them or out-capping them. In every. single. constellation that they want to control.
In short, if you don't have live, active pilots in that area on a regular, daily basis, you will be at a fatal disadvantage to almost any reasonably sized/funded group that IS willing to live there on a regular, daily basis.
Any system that large groups are willing to live in and "staff" with reasonably sized defense/E-link/counter-control-node fleets, those large groups can own. The entire point is that we're all pretty sure the number of systems that will be is going to be considerably less than the number they own right now. |

Kah'Les
hirr Northern Coalition.
8
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Posted - 2015.03.04 18:22:00 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Kah'Les wrote:And if people need to use 28 hours a week to stop scrubs from taking systems, it sounds balanced how? The sov system we have now even thou it's grindy at least you only needed to spend 1 hour to stop someone from taking one system compared to making eve a second job with the new system. Kah'Les wrote:It's a place of comidment and time Make your mind up son.
You honestly don't know how much time in null sec goes down to fueling POS, JB and supplying yourself with weekly PvP ships. If your prime time is used hunting people all the time you get less time to logistics and CTAs to fight the bigger fights, personal roams or ISK making. Instead you sit all day in your own system activating Entosis Link all day. There are other things than fighting that takes time in this game. |
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