they already could numbnuts your sp count doesn't make you elite

Stupidly bad idea. This is going to get abused like no tomorrow.

Expect maxed 600m sp characters within days of the release of this feature.

At least make it so that 80 or 100m+ sp character don't gain any sp whatsoever via this feature.... I can understand the need to get up to 40-60m quickly, but above that.... I'll be honest, i like my vet status! :P

You get to keep the char you want with the name you picked and the skillpoints you decided to train and not someone elses ideias/trainings/skillpoints

Or rich players can just gift game time to the characters in question. Sat in stations with +5's to farm SP. This will favour rich players far more.

You're the one who insists on it being your "main." Main characters are practically meaningless in a world where the Character Bazaar exists.

Explain what effort is required to gain skillpoints.

You SIR are still in an n00b corp. Guess if you have tomorrow that 145m SP ? I and many other I know would not except you in that corps, for the next few years.

Well that, and the number of characters per account is fixed. So the number of times I can use the character bazaar to fill my "sp needs" is 3*supported accounts. Keeping in mind that the average number of accounts per individual (last time the figure was released at some fanfest IIRC) was 2.2.

So, the typical player you can use the character bazaar 6 times to fill their needs and then you HAVE to train the old fashioned way. This new method? Farm those incursions for SP as long as you want.

You grind Gnolls in WoW for XP, you grind Sanshas in Eve for SP.

If anything this positively enforces sticking with your character. Corp history and reputation is more important then overall SP in this game, and more people will want to keep the former if they can adjust the ladder.

The diminishing returns is interesting, but I believe it should be more about **how much SP in a timeframe** that gets dimished, not based off your total SP.

For instance - Someone who has 80m sp, but only wants to change 5m SP every few months should not feel the same isk sink as somebody who has 80m sp, but ones to trade out 40m of it in a week.

With this type of system, long term gameplay is rewarded, those wanting instant gratification or pay-to-win are penalized.

The effort involved in researching, planning, and implementing those 12 years of skills. I mean, someone spending 12 years perfecting something passive shouldn't count as having done anything.

Gardeners are by this logic, worthless.

Even worse he didn't read the post.

There's a big difference between an 80M SP char and a 200+M SP char.

I guess they don't have buddy programs or allow unused accounts to expire where you live.

The effort involved in researching, planning, and implementing those 12 years of skills. I mean, someone spending 12 years perfecting something passive shouldn't count as having done anything.

Gardeners are by this logic, worthless.

You first kill sov war alienating a huge amount of your playerbase, in particular high sp characters. Then you make owning capitals utterly pointless with fozziesov. Then you basically allow anyone to buy skillpoints to be super elite I assume so that you still have some high sp characters?

they already could numbnuts your sp count doesn't make you elite

If this goes ahead, I for one will finally say enough already, and bid farewell to eve, and hello to one of the other games which are rapidly making steps ahead, such as [...] Star Citizen

This is a terrible idea.

Newer players who want to get ahead in the game can use the character bazaar to get a toon. Evidence of it changing hands is in the forums for all to see, so the disingenuous claptrap about bad rep does not hold water.

Losing the ability to gauge from the age of a character his potential skills will ruin various balances within the game, and will be very horrible for pirates, solo pvpers etc

Have you heard of "street sleepers"? these are super tuned cars which look to all intents and purposes like the standard vehicle that granny uses to run down to the supermarket to buy milk and cat-food. underneath however, they are turbocharged nutters. That's what you are proposing to create.

This is clearly a cash cow, and whilst we don't mind ccp having cash cows to milk, please bear in mind that we are already in the shed every month with our udders out.

Here is my alternative suggestion.

Have your SP reallocators, by all means, but make them only work for the toon the SPs are extracted from.
Give them a delay (24 hrs?) so that you cant fly into the station a maxxed out BS pilot, and undock as a maxxed out carrier pilot 2 mins later.
I'd happily take a 5-1 loss in the exchange rate to get rid of some of the more ******** things I've changed and to gain a small boost on some skills I would still like to gain.

Permit changes of this nature by all means, but don't create the ability for the already super rich and Highly skilled pilots to rattle up to 500m SPs within a month of the change. Likewise don't create the game breaking situation where a two month old character can be able to fly every sup-cap in the game to maximum proficiency, just because he has RL isk to burn, and wants to create a "street sleeper".

If this goes ahead, I for one will finally say enough already, and bid farewell to eve, and hello to one of the other games which are rapidly making steps ahead, such as Elite Dangerous, or Star Citizen. I'll wish you luck, and I won't look back.