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CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:18:00 - [1] The second Revelations expansion has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have an issue after the deployment, please check the below list as well as the Known Issues page to see if the Dev Team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes page. Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or posts not directly related to the patch deployment, bugs or issues will be deleted. The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status. Known Issues: Items will be added to this list based upon feedback in this thread. CEO and Directors, please check the roles you have issued your members! Anyone you have given 'Account Take' for Division 1, or 'Account Take [1]', please review this immediately. Division 1 is the master corporation wallet and anyone with access to that wallet can withdraw funds. The Dev team is aware of the issues players are facing with missing Loyalty Points and are working on resolution. We consider this a high priority issue. It is not necessary to submit a petition for missing loyalty points at this time. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Idara Caldari Missioners Anonymous	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:20:00 - [2] My LPs have basically disappeared. I had nearly 600k with my agent and now I've accepted one 15k LP offer through the store and have 5649 LPs. --- in EVE - Idara
Er 'k	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:22:00 - [3] for some reason the cache folder didn't transfer, i just waited untill the client started and logged on. for some reason all my settings where gone :/ can I just copy the cache from the eve folder in program files to the new folder or will this cause problems ?
Rimhawk Caldari Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:24:00 - [4] I received the following message when I started the patched client: "Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration." The interesting thing is that I was using the only account on my machine (this is Windows XP Home) and it does have administrator rights. After several tries the message disappeared. I am now using /end /LUA:OFF as well since I have two clients, perhaps that prevented it. . Rimhawk Vengeance 8 Interceptors "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
ZaKma Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:30:00 - [5] 1) If you have a Singularity client you already have a folder called EVE in My Documents. Thus your old settings are NOT copied over and you're left with the ones from Sisi. 2) If you have multiple clients they overwrite each other because now cache/capture are always in the same place. CCP I hope you do something about that. Very very annoying issues.
Krell Vashari Caldari Death Gliders Legacy Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:30:00 - [6] Something seems to be up with windowed mode. I click on the chat channel tabs, and it switches to fullscreen and the mouse pointer is displying in the wrong place. Guess I'll be using full screen and only one account for a while, as alt-tabbing between two fullscreen clients is a pain ---------------------------------------- What is worse, someone who complains, or someone who complains about complainers?
Ymsc Zod No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:30:00 - [7] I logged in and didn't accept any offer and was missing 350k LP from the agent I was using last night. I also had around 50K LP after logging in.
Alicina Goodbody	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:31:00 - [8] I used the command line switches /end /LUA:OFF and still had data transfered into the "My Documents" folder. This is not good.
Lrrp Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Rimhawk I received the following message when I started the patched client: "Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration." The interesting thing is that I was using the only account on my machine (this is Windows XP Home) and it does have administrator rights. After several tries the message disappeared. I am now using /end /LUA:OFF as well since I have two clients, perhaps that prevented it. When the admin screen came up, did you scroll to bottom and then hit "Accept"? I got same screen with XP, scrolled and accepted and works.
Shandra NoruffCameron	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:33:00 - [10] Edited by: Shandra NoruffCameron on 19/06/2007 22:34:27 I am getting the "Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration." I am using XP. I scrolled and accepted and it did take me into the login screen however if I close the client and reopen the same probelm happens again. There is an unusually long wait for the client to boot up and get to the login screen.

Dizirgee Amarr Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:34:00 - [11] reposting from other thread & edited two minor things i've noticed: Overview is totally messed up, even if it does remember all profiles they contains things that i surely hadnt selected - meaning its not as it was 2nd one, seems that color of tittle bars cannot be changed. I mean open your character window and that line of each skill group (when clicked it expands all skills in that group) is way too dark, and it cannot be changed via options, tried various themes and manual settings :( This also apply for market window I tried to delete cache now but i cant login back to verify if it helped or not...
Ashkevron The Suicide Kings FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:34:00 - [12] Do what the patch notes said people. RIGHT CLICK the Eve icon and choose run as administrator
Rimhawk Caldari Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Shandra NoruffCameron I am getting the "Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration." I didn't get anything like that, just the message and an ok button with an option to disable the message in the future. . Rimhawk Vengeance 8 Interceptors "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Alicina Goodbody I used the command line switches /end /LUA:OFF and still had data transfered into the "My Documents" folder. This is not good. The capture directory is migrated reguardless of those switches. The switches only stop you cache and settings from being moved.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:36:00 - [15] Edited by: Sirius Problem on 19/06/2007 22:42:03 Originally by: Alicina Goodbody I used the command line switches /end /LUA:OFF and still had data transfered into the "My Documents" folder. This is not good. What he said. Edit: Opps.. As you can see by a following post, this is not actually an issue. ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
Ashkevron The Suicide Kings FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Dizirgee reposting from other thread & edited two minor things i've noticed: Overview is totally messed up, even if it does remember all profiles they contains things that i surely hadnt selected - meaning its not as it was 2nd one, seems that color of tittle bars cannot be changed. I mean open your character window and that line of each skill group (when clicked it expands all skills in that group) is way too dark, and it cannot be changed via options, tried various themes and manual settings :( This also apply for market window I tried to delete cache now but i cant login back to verify if it helped or not... Yeah with over 30K people loging in, I wouldn't close down your client if you get in.. otherwise you could have a 5+hr wait
Ari Chu Bughunter Industries	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:37:00 - [17] Just installed the update and am in the Queue to get onto Tranquility, but I wanted to make this observation real quick even though it isn't what you are looking for specifically: The EULA that I needed to agree to is basically unreadable due to the background artwork and the Rev II overlay.... don't get me wrong - that didn't stop me from scrolling down and agreeing to the EULA; but just thought you might want to know. --- "The Galaxy is only as big as you make it." - presumably Eve Game Designers.
DaemonBarber	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:37:00 - [18] Edited by: DaemonBarber on 19/06/2007 22:36:09 Just for kicks... I'm about 200 in line. Server is throttled at 2000. Next update - 2800 in server, and I'm 180 in line. Did I miss something?
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:37:00 - [19] Edited by: Pastora on 19/06/2007 22:37:06 Why do you have to follow stupid Microsoft rules?! I like to keep My Documents folder as clean and organized as possible (but mostly clean), and now you place an extra folder there, which with time will start to occupy a lot of space?! Why?! And I don't care about Windows Vista a slight bit. I'm using Windows XP at the moment. Why should I comply to Vista rules? Why don't you just force us to install the whole game to My Games folder which is under My Documents folder? That will be "nice" and "fair", and comply with "wise" Microsoft rules. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Thomas Maleficus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:37:00 - [20] Autopilot is buggered (sometimes).. When warping to a gate to which your autopilot has as its next gate occasionally eve will auto-jump you..

Kalindra naskan Amarr Reprocity Pure.	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:37:00 - [21] Edited by: Kalindra naskan on 19/06/2007 22:36:32 Originally by: ZaKma 1) If you have a Singularity client you already have a folder called EVE in My Documents. Thus your old settings are NOT copied over and you're left with the ones from Sisi. 2) If you have multiple clients they overwrite each other because now cache/capture are always in the same place. CCP I hope you do something about that. Very very annoying issues. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=538076 Posted about it earlier since I knew this was bound to happen. Seems it wasn't taken notice of though. --- This sig is rated "N" for Nonexistant It's nonexistent btw - Cortes Meh, same thing.
Buzz Killer	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:38:00 - [22] well 29,999 people need to get a life so i can waist yet another evening... :)
Nikita Fontaine Caldari g guild	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:38:00 - [23] Edited by: Nikita Fontaine on 19/06/2007 22:39:33 the Warping indicator on the speed panel is now jerky when going to warp rather than being smooth as it used to be, is this intended? the speed indicator is also jerky as speed changes. ----------------------------------------------- Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ Directors are like buttons they hold things together.
Eela Valu	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:39:00 - [24] I dont know if it has to do with the patch or not, but it's irritating when it says, in the following order: 1: ñ250 in queue, 1004 players online 2: ñ211 in queue, 1766 players online 3: ñ143 in queue, 3000 players online (I feel like alot of people just ran past me)
Buzz Killer	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:39:00 - [25] oh wait, im thick i guess, so its only letting 2k peeps on right now?
Rimhawk Caldari Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Ashkevron Do what the patch notes said people. RIGHT CLICK the Eve icon and choose run as administrator I am the administrator. I have the option but there simply is no other user to select than the one I currently am. However the name of my Administrator account is not Administrator.... perhaps someone hardcoded it? Windows XP does allow it to be changed on installation. . Rimhawk Vengeance 8 Interceptors "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't."
Uhr Zylex	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Idara My LPs have basically disappeared. I had nearly 600k with my agent and now I've accepted one 15k LP offer through the store and have 5649 LPs. Exactly what has happened to me. I had over 480k with the agent at my current station alone and the LP store says I have 82622 LP to spend - what's up?
Paradox Twin	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:39:00 - [28] The patch wiped every screenshot I had. In fact it's wiped the entire Capture folder... Thanks CCP. Good job
Gerrard DuNord	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:40:00 - [29] I downloaded the patch and my client changed from English to German automatically. I may be playing in a German speaking country, but that doesn't mean I can speak German! I hope I'm able to change the language back in the options menu ... if not, what do I do?
Dizirgee Amarr Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:41:00 - [30] Edited by: Dizirgee on 19/06/2007 22:46:14 Originally by: Alicina Goodbody I used the command line switches /end /LUA:OFF and still had data transfered into the "My Documents" folder. This is not good. I can confirm that for me these switches works. Cache, capture and all stuff did stay where it was. In "My Documents" i get only history.txt thats all. (and yes I was already logged in) edit: damn Paradox Twin is right, I checked only if folders are there but not if it contain something (as i thought it wont be deleted as it wasnt moved) but i was wrong. All files in capture was deleted only empty directories was left. OMG what a bull****. I guess its time for some data recovery software as I want my screenies back :(

chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:42:00 - [31] Originally by: Paradox Twin The patch wiped every screenshot I had. In fact it's wiped the entire Capture folder... Thanks CCP. Good job Look on your computer in the following location C:\Documents and Settings\*\My Documents\EVE you should see your capture folder with your screen shots in there. ----------------- Originally by:** kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Ashkevron The Suicide Kings FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Pastora Edited by: Pastora on 19/06/2007 22:37:06 Why do you have to follow stupid Microsoft rules?! I like to keep My Documents folder as clean and organized as possible (but mostly clean), and now you place an extra folder there, which with time will start to occupy a lot of space?! Why?! And I don't care about Windows Vista a slight bit. I'm using Windows XP at the moment. Why should I comply to Vista rules? Why don't you just force us to install the whole game to My Games folder which is under My Documents folder? That will be "nice" and "fair", and comply with "wise" Microsoft rules. That folder won't grow all that large. It's just the game logs and screenshots and portraits and some config data. However, the client should have code to sense that it's not on Vista and not copy the files. If they want their game branded under the "Games for Windows" and to get a Vista Certified sticker. They have to comply to certain things. At least it's just a folder with sub folders, and not something cluttering your document folder.
Buzz Killer	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Gerrard DuNord I downloaded the patch and my client changed from English to German automatically. I may be playing in a German speaking country, but that doesn't mean I can speak German! I hope I'm able to change the language back in the options menu ... if not, what do I do? learn to speak German?
Ashkevron The Suicide Kings FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:47:00 - [34] They have the logons MAJORLY throttled so the servers don't up and crash from all the people logging on and to not strain the new code/database. I'm at #15 right now, but I think even that queue is so overloaded that people may have issues even getting in it right now
ALT gF4	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:47:00 - [35] Originally by: Gerrard DuNord I downloaded the patch and my client changed from English to German automatically. I may be playing in a German speaking country, but that doesn't mean I can speak German! I hope I'm able to change the language back in the options menu ... if not, what do I do? Learn German?
Tal Ribek Caldari Kingdom of Kador	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Eela Valu I dont know if it has to do with the patch or not, but it's irritating when it says, in the following order: 1: ñ250 in queue, 1004 players online 2: ñ211 in queue, 1766 players online 3: ñ143 in queue, 3000 players online (I feel like alot of people just ran past me) Multiple queues? ______________________________________
Aggymon	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:52:00 - [37] Dont know if you are aware but Spacelane Patrol LP shop doesnt work, try and accept something that I have LP and ISK for and its says; Message: 'LPStoreMisssingLP' Args: None Aggy
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:54:00 - [38] Edited by: Teila on 19/06/2007 22:56:51 How do I install the patch to two different unique clients on two seperate hard drives without losing settings? The clients already exist, but I'd prefer to spend my time playing the game, not setting up 20+ overview settings and all of that. Not that I haven't had to do that 10+ times before boggle edit: initial queue: #385, I can deal with that I guess. However it looks like my settings are completely hosed. Any chance of refunding me lost game time? Oh, and what about that downtime over the weekend where the server was basically hosed for all of Friday US primetime? I am not one to pay for a service where the service is not as described to me up front... i.e. EPIC SPACE^H^H^H^H^HLAG BATTLES
JJ McHawker	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:00:00 - [39] Perhaps the most important fix / improvement in this patch was left out of the patch notes - Billboards got an icon in Overview!! Lovin' it so far JJ
Cassidy Kerouac	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:01:00 - [40] hiyas.. i see some are "in" ..nice.. so i gave up on queue three times.. and each time the # grew... been tryin to do something else..lawn is mowed....garden is watered... hell the dishes are even done... so fire it up friends.. every mornin (here) 10k +- log in at once after the dt why the queue nonsence?

Jacky Danielson	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:02:00 - [41] Number of pilots dropped to 3102, I guess it's gonna be either a long night trying to log in or a short night watching tv.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Ashkevron That folder won't grow all that large. It's just the game logs and screenshots and portraits and some config data. However, the client should have code to sense that it's not on Vista and not copy the files. If they want their game branded under the "Games for Windows" and to get a Vista Certified sticker. They have to comply to certain things. At least it's just a folder with sub folders, and not something cluttering your document folder. It can grow large easily if I do many screenshots, keep combat logs, chat a lot, and so on... And I want to have these under THE game folder where I have installed the game, not under some stupid My Documents folder on another partition. What if I need to swap my hard drives from time to time? By keeping the game settings and whatever to the game folder only, I don't have to remember to copy freaking EVE folder from My Documents too (if I want to keep my screenshots, chatlogs, etc.). And "just a folder with sub folders" in the place where I don't want to have it, is not a "just folder". CCP, gimme the freaking option to decide for myself. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Feissi	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:04:00 - [43] I'm patching from Red Moon Rising so I'm downloading full patch, but when I try to install it I get msg saying "patching error in file ResMusic.stuff. The patch file appears to be invalid. Please download and install the patch again." First time I downloaded patch with client, second time from EVE site. Using Windows Vista.
turnschuh Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:04:00 - [44] The current TQ client did use my Settings from the Sisi Server because they where in the same Folder. I hope it doesnt brake anything. All my overview and ingame Settings are the same as I set them up in SISI. Maybe make a folder for each Server (something like EVE/, EVE_test/, EVE_test2).
Idara Caldari Missioners Anonymous	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:05:00 - [45] The LPs seem to be fixed and at proper levels. Too bad others who logged in later and weren't bugged got to profit where I missed because of a bug. /bitter --- in EVE - Idara
Paradox Twin	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:05:00 - [46] Originally by: chrisreeves Look on your computer in the following location C:\Documents and Settings\***\My Documents\EVE you should see your capture folder with your screen shots in there. Thanx chris, you're right. Checked after patching but hadn't spotted that.
Pinco Pez Wolfington Labs	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:06:00 - [47] Originally by: chrisreeves Originally by: Paradox Twin The patch wiped every screenshot I had. In fact it's wiped the entire Capture folder... Thanks CCP. Good job Look on your computer in the following location C:\Documents and Settings\***\My Documents\EVE you should see your capture folder with your screen shots in there. portrait and screenshots lost settings lost gamelogs moved to new location. I hope it will be possible to have ar least screenshots back
Clorthos Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:07:00 - [48] Ice Fields in the drone regions have had all the ice replaced with scordite and veldspar. This has to be a bug.
Lost Hamster Serenity and Unicum Hungarian Corp	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:07:00 - [49] The only workaround so far is to separate your logs is the following: Let's take that your EVE home directory is: C:\Program Files\EVE Create a My Documents directory in this directory. ( C:\Program Files\EVE\My Documents ) Create a starteve.cmd file put this as a content: set USERPROFILE="C:\Program Files\EVE" Start "eve" "C:\Program Files\EVE\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Exit And now run the starteve.cmd Side effects: If the My Documents directory is not existing, or the USERPROFILE setting is incorrect, then when you start the program, you do not get the login screen, but the program is running in the background. You need to kill it with a task manager. More info here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=527827
Deacon Hasp Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:08:00 - [50] the corp wallet divisions are not updating once they are renamed (i don't dare to relog as queues being in there current state)

Excerion Nera	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:09:00 - [51] You have a problem with NPC corps that doesn't own any stations. e.g like Interbus since LP Store is a station service there's no way to access their LP store...
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Clorthos Ice Fields in the drone regions have had all the ice replaced with scordite and veldspar. This has to be a bug. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
General Paul	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:10:00 - [53] Is the login time accurate? its saying itll be on at 00:29, 2:53, 1:49 keeps changing.. Im Uk time so an hour ahead.. and have a long shift tomorrow.. should I wait 2,4 or 6 hours or should it come to its senses?
Andrus Delai Trinity Inc	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:10:00 - [54] My application to join a Corp that was under the Offered tab is now gone.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:10:00 - [55] first 24 hours is buggy folks - ill be scanning down silly misison farmers and mission runenrs in empire systems as expect a lot of officer and faction fitted BS to go boom to lag and bugs ill just scoop up and profit from what i can hehe
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Excerion Nera You have a problem with NPC corps that doesn't own any stations. e.g like Interbus since LP Store is a station service there's no way to access their LP store... Isn't there also no way to get LP with them? Having no stations means they have no agents. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
Rex Mundus League of Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:12:00 - [57] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=539723 Indicates corp wallet may be bugged in that anyone in corp may be able to withdraw cash - probably needs checking out Also at around 22:40 the LP button gave up the ghost and went in search of Elvis. Last I saw it was giving an error box and then at the next station the LP Store button was no longer showing. Rex
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:12:00 - [58] Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you.
RipperZane	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:13:00 - [59] I think it is just screwing with me now. It keeps saying estimated is like 4:55, then 0:55... So i guess i will login at around 18+ Hrs from now? Just hate queues...
CyPhEr UmOs Gallente CyPhEr TeChNoLoGiEs The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:13:00 - [60] Come on get off this throttle nonsense and let us play. ============================================= [CYPHE] Cypher Technologies [email protected] Kemerk / Maalna

DeAnnais	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:13:00 - [61] seems a few hundred got booted.
Aramark Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:14:00 - [62] still getting the "unknown" when trying to log in. [/url]
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:14:00 - [63] Edited by: sableye on 19/06/2007 23:14:12 not a major bug but my clients don;tn seem to rmemeber my last username even after restart highly annying when running multiple clients but not even sure this is a bug yet as I only logged on into queue so far maybe I have to log in fully for it to store them. Join The Fight With Promo Today
Rao Esek	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:14:00 - [64] Edited by: Rao Esek on 19/06/2007 23:14:01 Originally by: Rex Mundus http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=539723 Also at around 22:40 the LP button gave up the ghost and went in search of Elvis. Last I saw it was giving an error box and then at the next station the LP Store button was no longer showing. Rex http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=539688&page=1#9
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:15:00 - [65] Also, where is the native Linux client some CCP spoke about coming out in 3 weeks.... roughly 4 months ago?
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:16:00 - [66] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Ashkevron That folder won't grow all that large. It's just the game logs and screenshots and portraits and some config data. However, the client should have code to sense that it's not on Vista and not copy the files. If they want their game branded under the "Games for Windows" and to get a Vista Certified sticker. They have to comply to certain things. At least it's just a folder with sub folders, and not something cluttering your document folder. It can grow large easily if I do many screenshots, keep combat logs, chat a lot, and so on... And I want to have these under THE game folder where I have installed the game, not under some stupid My Documents folder on another partition. What if I need to swap my hard drives from time to time? By keeping the game settings and whatever to the game folder only, I don't have to remember to copy freaking EVE folder from My Documents too (if I want to keep my screenshots, chatlogs, etc.). And "just a folder with sub folders" in the place where I don't want to have it, is not a "just folder". CCP, gimme the freaking option to decide for myself. I agree with this... everything should be in the same folder, or the game should at least give you a choice on patch if you want to be OMG VISTA READY@@@!one
CyPhEr UmOs Gallente CyPhEr TeChNoLoGiEs The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:16:00 - [67] Originally by: RipperZane I think it is just screwing with me now. It keeps saying estimated is like 4:55, then 0:55... So i guess i will login at around 18+ Hrs from now? Just hate queues... I've answered this issue. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=536963&page=13#390 ============================================= [CYPHE] Cypher Technologies [email protected] Kemerk / Maalna
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:16:00 - [68] Allianceemployment-history seems to be borked. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Cowerpower	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:17:00 - [69] Hahah was down to # 18 and 2 minutes next refresh im now 385 and 23 mins fun times
General Paul	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:17:00 - [70] Got to 233 in queue then my computer crashed (black screen) now 433 lol.. its a good job im drunk or id get rather annoyed <hic> three cheers for a smooth patch deployment.. hip hip ?

General Paul	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:18:00 - [71] Hahah was down to # 18 and 2 minutes next refresh im now 385 and 23 mins fun times is the eta in minutes.. I thought it was the hour you'de get in (estimated time of arrival)
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:19:00 - [72] Originally by: Arushia Originally by: Excerion Nera You have a problem with NPC corps that doesn't own any stations. e.g like Interbus since LP Store is a station service there's no way to access their LP store... Isn't there also no way to get LP with them? Having no stations means they have no agents. Interbus has agents, but in stations of other corps. You can check here: http://www.eve-online.com/corporations/c_1000148.asp
Sargeant HAmmer Caldari Hammers Academy	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:19:00 - [73] i got to below 100 in the queue then STATUS: UNKNOWN you buggers
Gerrard DuNord	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:21:00 - [74] Heh, finally logged in, changed the language - which booted me out and put me back in the queue.... at least I could understand the messages though!
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:21:00 - [75] Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again?
Raul Lustrom	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:22:00 - [76] I wish you wouldn't announce the patch as being complete when you are limiting logons, essentially making it impossible to use the software. I mean why throttle anyway? It doesn't seem logical to me. If there are bugs and problems that will surface when the servers fill up, wouldn't you want to find them sooner?
TeaDaze GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:22:00 - [77] Originally by: Miter Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you. Signed. Please for the love of <insert deity> give us a configuration option for where the game saves data. The My Documents folder is for My Documents, not for random game files. Game settings should stay with in the game folder so that if it is moved to another machine / HD / etc it still works. Just another paying customer who is sick and tired of program settings under windows being spread between registry, profile, application data within the profile, my documents, my games and program directories...
RipperZane	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:22:00 - [78] Originally by: CyPhEr UmOs Originally by: RipperZane I think it is just screwing with me now. It keeps saying estimated is like 4:55, then 0:55... So i guess i will login at around 18+ Hrs from now? Just hate queues... I've answered this issue. You did Is it throttling that screws with the estimated time? I must've missed your post stating it...
Jonas Vinthyn Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:22:00 - [79] For all the reasons everyones complaining is the reason I'm happy they moved things to the My Docs. When I backup my PC I only backup the My Docs folder because thats the only stuff not easily replaceable. EVE I can redownload, other programs reinstall from downloads or CD's. MY data though, chat logs, captures, that stuff I'm not getting anywhere else. I try to set everything up on my PC to save to the My Docs then I just have one thing to backup....it makes perfect sense they wen't this way and I wish they did it earlier. -Jonas. Join BOINC team "EVE-Online"
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:23:00 - [80] Acquiring Bulk Data.... YAY Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.

iulixxi Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:23:00 - [81] My client just crashed , no errors , no "Cinnection closed" no nothing ... Os it me or some one has the same problem ?
Lorieen	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:24:00 - [82] Edited by: Lorieen on 19/06/2007 23:23:21 Quote: The deployment of EVE Online: REVELATIONS II was completed on 19 June at 2215 GMT, a deployment completed before the scheduled return to service.
Excerion Nera	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:24:00 - [83] Edited by: Excerion Nera on 19/06/2007 23:23:59 Originally by: Arushia Originally by: Excerion Nera You have a problem with NPC corps that doesn't own any stations. e.g like Interbus since LP Store is a station service there's no way to access their LP store... Isn't there also no way to get LP with them? Having no stations means they have no agents. Unfortunately Interbus have alot of agents spread out in other NPC corp stations (e.g the one my own corp hq is in (duvolle labs)) (and thus when i click on the LP Store in the station i only get the LP's i have for Duvolle labs)
Vladimir Tinakin Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:24:00 - [84] OMFBBQGOAS! The LP store is JAWSOME! Makes up for Tactical Logistics requiring Logistics 5 instead of 4 ----------------------------------------------- Adm Vladimir Tinakin CFO Hadean Drive Yards
Cowerd	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:28:00 - [85] Wow i never saw this seems like alot of broken stuff http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp
Wild Xenria Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:28:00 - [86] Edited by: Wild Xenria on 19/06/2007 23:41:19 LP stores seem to be hiding from me, I looked at them in a few stations, and then went to look at a different one. Now wherever I go (even the same stations where it was there before) there are no LP stores. This is just corps where I know I have LP. Guess this could be linked to LP going wrong as maybe EVE is registering my LP with those corps as 0. So anyhows, can LP stores cloak? Edit: Seems they can, and decloak. Anyhow at the minute they are back but I thought I should leave this post up incase it happened to others or they kept disapearing/reapreaing.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:28:00 - [87] Post patch, my comic site no longer works and the browser gives no feedback as to why, just a blank page. :( warp drive active \| nature vraie
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:29:00 - [88] Originally by: Teila Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again?
Andrus Delai Trinity Inc	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:29:00 - [89] Selecting the location of an agent in the Journal only gives "Set Destination" and not "Add Waypoint".
DeAnnais	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:30:00 - [90] it's taken me about 45minutes to go from 180's to 12.....

Marodi Julita Sublime Captial Investments	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:30:00 - [91] INCREASE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ALLOWED TO CONNECT! Taking freaking forever....
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:31:00 - [92] Unable to mate up chat windows. You can separate them ok, cannot mate them back up. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
bobil costruttore	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:32:00 - [93] Your having a laugh, just sat here going from 100 odd to 1, logs in, takes mission, goes to mission, and gets dumped off server, now i'm 440 odd !! hmm, bed time, stuff this tonight, have fun all :(
Vengal Seyhan	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:32:00 - [94] Originally by: Miter Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you. My personal issue with this is that I run the game on a company laptop, and my MyDocuments folder gets archived to the server every night. And then the server gets archived to tape drive. This will increase my logoff time when I leave work every day as the extra data gets copied and compared. It will also leave interesting chat logs et al on about a dozen different tapes for six months. Look, I do know that running this on a company laptop isn't exactly private to start with, and it's easy to discover that I run Eve on my system, but I don't like having these kind of choices removed by default.
DeAnnais	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:33:00 - [95] in for what it's worth
RipperZane	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:33:00 - [96] Originally by: Marodi Julita INCREASE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ALLOWED TO CONNECT! Taking freaking forever.... ./Signed So true....
Paper Pusher	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:33:00 - [97] LOL OMG this is the Ultimate. My user name had been deleted. So when I finally had a chance to log in I was so excited I left out a letter. After what , an hour? I finally get past all the que and I get to log IN! BUT OH . Wrong user name. So I correct it. Joy oh Joy , now im in the que again, I guess ill wait another hour LOL
Chruker	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:34:00 - [98] From the other thread: Good job on the moving of data :-) - Users of sisi, will have to delete the data that the test patch moved in order for the tq client to start moving its data. - Market logs doesn't get moved. - cache/Browser/bookmarkSites.txt, ignoredSites.txt and trustedSites.txt files are not moved - The prefs.ini file is not moved to its new location - XP gives this error when starting the client: 'Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration.' although I am running as an admin user. - Finally the logs, capture and cache directories are not removed. Also I'm curious as to how annoying it becomes to have the sisi, multi and tq clients share the same prefs.ini file. Also missing from the patch notes: - EW Drone riggy has had its market slot removed ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Updated data export - Speedup IGB table rendering
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:36:00 - [99] Edited by: chrisreeves on 19/06/2007 23:35:13 finally got to #1 in queue and then got a "corrupt client, restart and wait in the long ass line you punk" message. Honest, it said that. ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Trek Minmatar N.A.G.A Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:36:00 - [100] Nice job getting it done several hours ahead of time. Better to claim needing 24 hours and getting it done in 20 than the other way around I'd say. However I am quite disapoined in the my documents shuffle. If there was one CCP had done correctly with the client, it was that it kept all its stuff at one place not cluttering up random directories like all to many widows applications. But that was before... Someone just crawled even further up Microsofts... well you know the rest. I haven't downloaded the patch yet as my internet connection is down and I'm using a GPRS-connection as backup. But I am keeping my fingers crossed someone confirms a workaround for the file-cluttering before my connection comes back. Anyhow, make sure you all fly safe out in that brand new world of Revelations 2! --- My other ship is a Reaper

Kent Halo Gallente Nightly Strike Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:37:00 - [101] Before the patch I had lots of screenshots in .png format and 2 in .bmp. After the migration, I only have those 2 (two) .bmp images in the /My Documents/EVE/capture/Screenshots. Are the others lost for good, or are they in some place I don't know?
Fable Hike Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:39:00 - [102] Edited by: Fable Hike on 19/06/2007 23:38:04 i moved 320 in queue, while server went up with 2.5k players..yay ************************************ You are going too fast! Wait a minute and try again. *************************************
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:39:00 - [103] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again? still waiting on this, as well as how to shut off the eve music while I sit in the queue to login. I would like to watch a vid or two while I am waiting and the music is driving me bananas.
Fetischka	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:39:00 - [104] Edited by: Fetischka on 19/06/2007 23:38:57 AIIIIIGH! In the queue for 30min and ...I was acquiring bulk data ...cleaned up my full taskbar to optimize running processes ...and ACCIDENTALLY CLOSED THE EVE CLIENT . Kids, dont do drugs. It really bad.
TeaDaze GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:39:00 - [105] Originally by: Jonas Vinthyn For all the reasons everyones complaining is the reason I'm happy they moved things to the My Docs. When I backup my PC I only backup the My Docs folder because thats the only stuff not easily replaceable. EVE I can redownload, other programs reinstall from downloads or CD's. MY data though, chat logs, captures, that stuff I'm not getting anywhere else. I try to set everything up on my PC to save to the My Docs then I just have one thing to backup....it makes perfect sense they wen't this way and I wish they did it earlier. -Jonas. If it works for you that is great. Not saying it shouldn't default to that behaviour, just saying that for a number of us we prefer the cache, screenies, game logs etc to stay in the game folders. Case in point, I have a separate (faster) game drive and only have the OS and some personal documents on the C:\ drive (which is also rather full of applications). I want the game files on the faster roomier drive. Also before this change I could copy the game directory from my home machine onto my laptop and it would just work. Now I have to go rooting through my documents folder too. It isn't the end of the world but it is pretty damn annoying to give the option of where to install the game and then stick hundreds of megs of data elsewhere...
Caius LiviusCerso	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:39:00 - [106] This patch is actualy a spy's dream. no, his wet dream....
annoing Amarr MisFunk Inc. Frontline.	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:41:00 - [107] Deployment problems? Ok i have one..... I waited 45mins to connect (not bothered, watched some tele, made some Jam)I entered my name (spelt correctly), entered my password (spelt correctly) I then got a message saying my username and/or password was wrong please re-connect. Yup you've guessed it, 5-6 hours til I can get on with the queue. Not bothered about that really cos im off to bed, just bothered about the fact the name was right, the password was right, it didnt seem to think so. I hope this isnt a bug to be worried about ----------------------------------------------- perhaps you confused me with someone who actually gives a funk?
Vienna Gates Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:42:00 - [108] In game if u press "Windows key" to come to desktop, game will crash...(at least happen to me)
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:44:00 - [109] Originally by: Nikita Fontaine Edited by: Nikita Fontaine on 19/06/2007 22:39:33 the Warping indicator on the speed panel is now jerky when going to warp rather than being smooth as it used to be, is this intended? the speed indicator is also jerky as speed changes. This is the major problem I have with this patch. This and the fact that icons are about twice as wide as they used to be for modules means even less room for the overview. -----
OMG'WTF	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:44:00 - [110] OMG, is the queue gonna be this long after every downtime? Or is it just that everyone's cache folder is moving? Also, what happens with running two copies of the eve folder for use with the test server? Will they share the same settings folder in My Docs? Will we also need a windows account for each one now?

K Kinnison Gallente Galactic Patrol Industries	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:46:00 - [111] Originally by: Fable Hike Edited by: Fable Hike on 19/06/2007 23:38:04 i moved 320 in queue, while server went up with 2.5k players..yay That would seem to suggest there are 8 logon servers then :) KK.
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:46:00 - [112] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again? still waiting on this, as well as how to shut off the eve music while I sit in the queue to login. I would like to watch a vid or two while I am waiting and the music is driving me bananas. Can I get a response from someone please? I called etrade today, and they returned my call in 5 minutes. And I do less buiness with them than the ammount of money I have given over to CCP. If ym settings are gone again, I swear.... I MEAN COME ON WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING
Malaan Tabfassh	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:47:00 - [113] Edited by: Malaan Tabfassh on 19/06/2007 23:47:05 currently #somewhere in queue. only thing I would like to say: Please give us the choice where to store our cachefolder. The /lua:off command doesn't seem to work for all setting and basically i like to keep my os partition free from such **** (doesn't apply to eve only).
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:48:00 - [114] Ok.. for modules, it looks like it requires tags.. and alot of them. This sucks! (I can see the reasoning, but I'm still not happy about it ) When searching a corporation, then viewing its info... when you click on the (i) button to show info on the corporation's CEO, the window buggers out. Badly. My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
IlluminatedOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:48:00 - [115] 1st bug: If music is turned on, then any sound effect (for instance, if i mouse-hover the keys) stops current track and starts it from the beginning. -------------------------------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way!
Orasha Nightwalk	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:48:00 - [116] I know that everyones been waiting for this patch and now everyone wants to see it. Well joy. So can I log in long enough to set a new skill to train .. gah...
OMG'WTF	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:48:00 - [117] Originally by: Teila still waiting on this, as well as how to shut off the eve music while I sit in the queue to login. I would like to watch a vid or two while I am waiting and the music is driving me bananas. Ctrl-Alt-Shift-F12
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:49:00 - [118] Originally by: Lrrp Originally by: Rimhawk I received the following message when I started the patched client: "Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration." The interesting thing is that I was using the only account on my machine (this is Windows XP Home) and it does have administrator rights. After several tries the message disappeared. I am now using /end /LUA:OFF as well since I have two clients, perhaps that prevented it. When the admin screen came up, did you scroll to bottom and then hit "Accept"? I got same screen with XP, scrolled and accepted and works. Yarr but with vista = run with admin. Atleast for me , else it whines. The ladies man. Your signature graphic must reflect your ingame persona as per The Forum rules - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) Oh mai GOD!
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:50:00 - [119] Here we go again. #1 in queue "connect to continue". I press connect and.... To be continued. ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Gene Pool	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:51:00 - [120] I have two accounts running on the same client. After downloading and installing and waiting in que with my first account to load, which successfully connected. I waited in que for the 2nd account for 1.5 hours. After completing the que it said to hit connect, I did so and it told me my username and password was incorrect and placed me back into a 3 hour que. Just thought I would note this in case it's a problem for others.. As it stands now atleast I have one account loaded.

Ospo	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:51:00 - [121] When I press play the jukebox rapidly moves through the list top to bottom without playing anything, then the game freezes...
Eximo	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:52:00 - [122] Significant user setting problem: Cannot reset snap distances from the main menu. It simply doesn't remember being clicked.
Snake Jankins Minmatar Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:52:00 - [123] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 19/06/2007 23:58:44 'Insufficient privileges ... Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration' If your documents and settings folder resides on a FAT32 partition, you get this popup window although you are starting EVE on an administrator account. I converted that partition to NTFS and then the problem was gone. If you have upgraded from Win95/98 and kept your partitions, it's likely that they are still FAT32. Here is a link how to convert to NTFS: http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/fatntfs.php The basic command that has to be typed into the console is 'convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs' and then schedule it to the next reboot like described there. Do at your own risk ! ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Mitchman Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:52:00 - [124] EVE now decided to ignore my custom window size I've been using for 2 years. Where can I set it back? Where's the config files now? New video: All Aboard The Pain Train
5n4keyes Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:55:00 - [125] where the heck is my shield hardener and shield booster effect??
Adderon San	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:56:00 - [126] Edited by: Adderon San on 20/06/2007 00:01:20 Moving the cache and logs to comply with vista is fine, but having all logs etc forced in to the same directories even from different client installations is a serious ball ache guys. Theres loads of people running multiple accounts, with multiple client installs (I run 1 seperate install for each account) SPECIFICALLY to keep the logs and stuff seperate. Arse.
Floryan Rotbart Minmatar The Galactic Empire Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:56:00 - [127] All settings lost. I knew it was unevitable cause it happens to me after every patch. However it's every time such a major pain in the !%& again. And again. And again. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
Vandamsel Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:56:00 - [128] i try to start up eve, i see the rev 2 picture with the 2 hurris, but the login screen never pops up
Souljourner	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:57:00 - [129] The "checking status/connection to the server was closed" bug has still not been fixed. I cannot see any of the new content, as the client refuses to go any farther than the login screen, just as it has done for the past 6 days. Will someone please look into this?
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:57:00 - [130] Tried to change my sound settings after logging in. Clicked "Use middle mouse button to talk" and the game hard quit.

mining dust	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:58:00 - [131] What i would like to know is why is the amount of users so small normaly its around 20k and i can still log on now there is 9k and a LONG wait lol but other then that good job on getting done a head of time =)
Emperor Chimaera	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:59:00 - [132] got some funny sound clipping when using the autohide function of the netcom bar. and when turned off, sound clipping occurs when i ctrl-tab. the rest is wonderful a bit laggy but very nice
Wadaya Caldari Trailerpark Industries	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:59:00 - [133] Window and graphic settings=wiped Overview settings=wiped For every new transaction you have to hit "load" on personal wallet, kind of annoying for some of us marketers. About the heat icons? is there a way to disable them? They are jammed right between the module rack and ship status indicators. In lag or in heated engagements, might accidentally turn them on when we don't mean to. There are a few options like lock overload etc, but of course, no documentation on what it means. Wad
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.06.19 23:59:00 - [134] I smell multiple patches in the next week.
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:00:00 - [135] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again? still waiting on this, as well as how to shut off the eve music while I sit in the queue to login. I would like to watch a vid or two while I am waiting and the music is driving me bananas. Can I get a response from someone please? I called etrade today, and they returned my call in 5 minutes. And I do less buiness with them than the amount of money I have given over to CCP. If ym settings are gone again, I swear.... I MEAN COME ON WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING Confirmed, all my overview settings, window positions, colors, all reset. Some of my friends did not have to reset this stuff. What do I do to get it all back? Give me some customer service damnit! NOW! I do not look forward to sitting for an hour in space redoing all of my overview settings. Please tell me how to restore this stuff.
Ishi Da	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:02:00 - [136] i have the same problem as Vandamsel .i cant even get to the login screen
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:03:00 - [137] Originally by: Floryan Rotbart All settings lost. I knew it was unevitable cause it happens to me after every patch. However it's every time such a major pain in the !%& again. And again. And again. Yeah, me too. I really do wish such a simple thing to fix would get fixed, but noooo.... I really could care lessa bout all these new 'features', just give me my settings back. Seriously, is this done on purpose? Any half witted coder could make this stuff redundant so that if it loses the file (how I have NO idea), it could easily be restored. I have backups, but last time I tried to restore on my own I had to reinstall from a fresh download because eve thought I had a corrupt install. THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM THE PAST ARE DESTINED TO REPEAT IT
Vandamsel Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:04:00 - [138] Originally by: Ishi Da i have the same problem as Vandamsel .i cant even get to the login screen dont worry, it works eventually, it just takes a long f**king time
Foehammer 64	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:05:00 - [139] When I tried to log on, the player count wass 9454, and I was told I am 101 in queue. There are now 12329 players on, and I have not been processed...
Saelyth Nightwish Gallente Stormriders	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:08:00 - [140] OH yea thanks for pointing me to a topic that has 80 pages so NOBody will look at it.. way to sweap me under the carpet. Well ill say it anyway.. Can you POSSABLY make it so if you wait in queue to log in and have to log out while their is still a queue line, maybe make it so it remembers whos loged in in the past minute or two so we don't have to wait ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Id also be nice if when our spot comes up, it gives us a moment if our password is wrong it would give is time to correct it instead of shoving us to the Back. THAT said, can you maybe post an expansion or patch that Doesn't Reset our interface settings every dam time? I sick and tired of redoing my overview settings constantly. And i know all of you would say "just copy the directory or whatever" but i shouldn't have to.

Del ReyII Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:08:00 - [141] Nicely done CCP. Best patch deployment and information flow for as long as I can remember. \o/
Wadaya Caldari Trailerpark Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:10:00 - [142] Also, the tab on my journal that displays my rp and r&d agent list is blank. Is this an accident caused by the moving to the lp store? Wad
Airdorn Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:10:00 - [143] In quere to log in.. your chance comes, you're at #1 now! You log in, but type the wrong password -- oops! But now, you're back at the bottom of the totem pole. ..... grumble
Zartmann Caldari XUKRUT United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:12:00 - [144] Can someone help with ERROR=ept0034 when patching on Vista ? and Yes! I run the patch with Administrator account. Anyone ? _-=I\| \|I=-_
Dealth Striker	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:13:00 - [145] Took awhile to get from the queue - however, well worth it. First thing I noticed was how crisp-looking the interface window icons, fonts, etc are excellent work - thank you
Albinor	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:16:00 - [146] Just noticed, I'm missing one of my Jump Clones. Other than that, no problems
maltari Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:16:00 - [147] Edited by: maltari on 20/06/2007 00:35:22 Two bugs: All my settings are gone, probably because it took the ones from Singularity (which were way outdated). Can't see anything in chat (corp, local, whatever), I can type, but after I hit enter nothing seems to happen. Edit: cleaned up the settings in the Documents & Settings folder, and now it seems that the data migration partially managed to get back my settings: my market quickbar is here, but my overview settings are still missing. Oh well :`\
Lord Nemus	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:18:00 - [148] I would also like to see a Linux client.
SauronTheMage Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:18:00 - [149] With the criminal flagging you get for repping an npc in empire space.. is this a concordable flag or just a container theft type flag? A concord flag would be bad just in case someone in a mission gang accidently starts repping an npc instead of their mate.
Ikkajo Minmatar Illudium Space Products	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:18:00 - [150] Just to note that the two invention implants don't list what bonus they give. Bit hard to know which one to buy or whether it is worth buying them or not. Just says it gives a bonus to invention - but what? Success, runs, ME/PE or something else? Industrialist Carebear, CEO Illudium Space Products: Where's the KABOOM!?

Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:18:00 - [151] Attempting to select a song in the Jukebox crashes EVE. _________________ Burn.
Precentor M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:20:00 - [152] A Dev stated here that these R&D agents would have Mechanical Engineering research teams, but when I looked at the Amarr ones it is not showing up under the agentÆs info
Jeff Anderson Advanced Security And Asset Protection	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:26:00 - [153] BUG: Survey Scan Result sort order returns to default upon any update. Any action that updates the survey scan results ends up resetting the sort order to the default. I'm trying to sort by ore and everytime it updates it gets reset to the default order. Sig: Miners supply the ore that the Industrialists use to build the ships you PVP/E with so please think of them as your ship blows up from the enhanced PVP/E in EVE. We know CCP hasn't.

CCP Chronotis	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:29:00 - [154] Originally by: Precentor A Dev stated here that these R&D agents would have Mechanical Engineering research teams, but when I looked at the Amarr ones it is not showing up under the agentÆs info thanks for reporting this, will investigate and fix asap.

lobdab	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:32:00 - [155] for the love of iceland, puhleeeease give us the option to retain all game related folders in the game home directory! some of us don't like storing game data of any sort in the C: documents folder.
Katana Seiko Made in Germany	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:33:00 - [156] I miss some LP here... I did a job with Ishukone a few days ago, and now I have no LP at all with them... -- The future begins now - in EVE we live it, in real life we create it! Your sig is too big. Please keep it under 400x120 and less than 24000 bytes. -the sexiest moderator ([email protected]
Carcusian The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:33:00 - [157] /signed
Maglorre	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:34:00 - [158] For everyone whining about the file locations changes, check out junctions Should be a solution for some.
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:34:00 - [159] Happy to report that after joining the orderly queue and diving into the game, I've hopped around for a bit, run a couple of missions, explored and dipped into the LP store and encountered no issues yet. Fantastic work, CCP. I heart you!
Vdub2002	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:34:00 - [160] may i ask why t2 nos was nerfed to 9.6, same as small 'diminishing'

Teila	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:35:00 - [161] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Originally by: Teila Can someone from CCP please tell me how to install the patch when I have two seperate installs on two seperate hard drives? I have already patched and am in the queue on one and I would like to get the second in the queue so I can play sometime this week. And if my suspicions are correct (the show introduction movie box is checked), I have lost my settings already, and I haven't even tried to patch the client on my other hard drive yet. Please please answer. This thread is moving so fast I doubt I'll find it here unless I sit and F5 all night to read a bug thread. Yippee. When do I get my check for Beta testing again? still waiting on this, as well as how to shut off the eve music while I sit in the queue to login. I would like to watch a vid or two while I am waiting and the music is driving me bananas. Can I get a response from someone please? I called etrade today, and they returned my call in 5 minutes. And I do less buiness with them than the amount of money I have given over to CCP. If ym settings are gone again, I swear.... I MEAN COME ON WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING Confirmed, all my overview settings, window positions, colors, all reset. Some of my friends did not have to reset this stuff. What do I do to get it all back? Give me some customer service damnit! NOW! I do not look forward to sitting for an hour in space redoing all of my overview settings. Please tell me how to restore this stuff. Anyone? Paying customer here. KTHX
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:36:00 - [162] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Originally by: Precentor A Dev stated here that these R&D agents would have Mechanical Engineering research teams, but when I looked at the Amarr ones it is not showing up under the agentÆs info thanks for reporting this, will investigate and fix asap. None of the Gallente agents show Mechanical Engineering as well. Also could you add the LP count to the Attributes tab of the corp info. Unless you go to the corp station there is no way to find out how many LP's you have. ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus
April Knox COLD-Wing Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:37:00 - [163] My client gets stuck at Acquiring Bulk Data. The folders have been succesfully moved to it's new location and the patching process when just fine. Still, I can't log in even after waiting 30 minutes. Any idea what can I do in order to log in?
Zsurru	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:38:00 - [164] Edited by: Zsurru on 20/06/2007 00:51:13 All I get is the splash screen. It stays up for a few seconds then disappears. Then...nothing. No logon screen. Any ideas? - Zs Nevermind, she's running now. The old girl was just being obstinate.
Devious	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:38:00 - [165] Edited by: Devious on 20/06/2007 00:37:12 Maybe its me, but The tutorial Dungeon instance described in patch notes Does not work. i am left looking at a Tutorial that the agent will not give me ANY Missions and when i undock im left looking at space without the old newbie training grounds. Overview is Borked once more.settings folder seems to be wiped even when manually moving it to all the places mentioned in the patch notes. revelations II is a horrible color for some. game crashes occasionaly when jumping through gates ..no message just straight to desktop, could be lag.
nophtosh Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:38:00 - [166] the lp store is nice, but i'm already wishing you could check all your agent/corp offers as i never remember most of the ones i used once upon a time
Demoneque Intentions eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:39:00 - [167] I just patched EVE and am running Windows Vista Home Premium. I'm right clicking on the EVE.exe icon and selecting to "Run as administrator". When I get to the login screen, I get a message saying: "Insufficient Privileges: Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration". I am not on a FAT32 partition and have followed the directions as given. When I attempt to connect to the server, I get the following message: "Local Session Corrupt: The client's local session information is corrupt, probably as a result of failed cleanup during a disconnect. Connecting to the server in this state could lead to a rather unpleasant game experience. Please restart the client prior to logging in." I've rebooted the machine and have restarted the EVE client. The above two issues continue to persist. What can I do to fix this?
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:40:00 - [168] Originally by: nophtosh the lp store is nice, but i'm already wishing you could check all your agent/corp offers as i never remember most of the ones i used once upon a time Yeah maybe a tab on the journal that list all the corps you have LP's with and the ammount ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus
Trem Sinval Sinval Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:40:00 - [169] I add the triumvirate: Attempting to select a song from the jukebox menu causes the menu to scroll rapidly and eventually crash the client. Bugreport'd! - Trem
Senbei Roshi Temporal Heuristic Concepts	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:42:00 - [170] Not sure if this has been addressed yet, but I need to know a couple of things: How does the LP store affect Research Points now that there is no Offer Tab in my journal? How will I receive an offer for a BP if I have no offer tab? I have no research listed on the Research Tab in my journal, but I know I have one research agent running because I have the option to take it elsewhere, and I really don't want to lose my RP. Any help on recovering my Research status ? Ignorance is Bliss And the Opposite is True Genius is Madness

Ithoriel Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:45:00 - [171] 1. No data in the Research tab in the journal. 2. Can't type or see anything in chat windows. 3. Can't prevent some folders/ files moving to "My F*ing Documents" Growing old** is mandatory, growing up is entirely optional
Gneiss Breaker	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:45:00 - [172] Edited by: Gneiss Breaker on 20/06/2007 00:48:52 I too get the "login as administrator to complete migration" message..... despite logging in to 3 different accounts (a user with local admin, the local administrator and the domain administrator). (edit) Then when I log in, I get the normal 'downloading bulk data....' dialogs. Then.... nothing. Just sits there. Been 20 minutes so far. Still nothing. No disk activity, no significant CPU used, nothing. fwiw: game is installed on D: drive, My Documents is on C: drive which is getting full (280Mb free) - which is why all this stuff was on D: drive to start with. And both drives are NTFS so it's not caused by FAT32 as a previous poster suggested.
Cednar	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:47:00 - [173] My settings will not stick. Also when i set a destination and use auto pilot it keeps shutting off and wiping my waypoints. as well my side window keeps opening up everytime I jump or enter a station.
Adhar Khorin Amarr Freeport Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:48:00 - [174] Hats off, CCP, you did a grand job. Done before you said, and the game looks beautiful. Don't let the hardcase pilots get ya down, you guys rock.
Landrassa Astral Resource Cartel	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:50:00 - [175] First of all, props for what seems to be a relatively smooth deployment. Been playing for a while now and aside for the agony of having to restore settings things seem rather smooth. The promised improvement with regards to drone lag is quite noticeable although still not quite as smooth as I would have liked. On a related note, there's an updated version of EVE launcher for all of us multi-account runners, serious props to Grismar for that one. ------------------------------------------------ As I walk in the Valley of the Omber of Death, I shall have no fear...
TeaDaze GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:51:00 - [176] Edited by: TeaDaze on 20/06/2007 00:51:36 Originally by: Ithoriel 3. Can't prevent some folders/ files moving to "My F**ing Documents" Some files appear in C:\Documents and Settings\<Profile name>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings (A hidden folder to most people) Other files appear in My Documents Plus some go into Eve directory So spread into 3 separate locations (anything in the registry too?), this is supposed to be good for the customer? Edit* Yes it all looks shiny and fast when I'm in, which is why the lack of configuration for where the settings files live and losing all my settings in the process is so frustrating
maltari Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:52:00 - [177] Originally by: Ithoriel Can't type or see anything in chat windows. Glad to see I'm not the only one...
Ishi Da	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:54:00 - [178] still no joy geting past the splash screen to the login screen.
Ivankur	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:55:00 - [179] Logged in everything seems ok so far. I'm running a mission (Pirate Intrusion) in Emolgranlan and it seems like the jumpgate into the next room isn't 'placed' correctly - I actually warped into the next room from what looks to be about 6 km away (near the solar harvester) - kinda cool really. Overview said I was only about 300m away. Also one of my regular agents didn't greet me with a smile like she usually does.
Ernhette	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:56:00 - [180] The patch didn't move my settings to My Documents, but still deleted the settings in my install folder. So now I'm left with no settings saved at all. :( 1) <eve install>/cache/settings folder is empty. 2) C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\My Documents\EVE doesn't have a settings folder.

Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:56:00 - [181] I can't see any of my overview presets. Even if I restore my settings from backup, EVE not get any of them in work. Why is that happened and how fast it will be resolved? I can't spend other 3-5 hours tweaking all eve. I pay for game, not for work, You know? -- .
Dan Spitty Gallente Gunslingers Corp Charok Askore Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:57:00 - [182] So how do we get rid of the text so we only have icons in the left-hand main menu-bar section ? Can't remember the proper name of it and was about 3 years since I minimized it to icons-only. Thought it was in the settings menu but nothing in there it seems. Another one here peed-off with the "My Documents" usage... For the 3 years I've been playing, Eve, it's cache folder, log folder and screen-shot folder and everything else related to the game has lived on a separate physical disk-drive to my system drive. I can wipe windows and Eve will be up and running as soon as the OS is... Now you're polluting the "My Documents" folder... Don't bother with trying to obtain Microsoft Logo Certification, it's not for games, only business applications. So I added the switches after already running the client and logging and ... splash-screen starts up and disappears and that's it. Have to log-in without switches now. Permanent damage ? I know it's patch-day, so will try again in a couple of days when things get sorted. Best of luck
Caldone	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:57:00 - [183] Edited by: Caldone on 20/06/2007 01:03:56 My brother (on the same network) is playing EVE, I however am not. My status is still unknown and will not let me log. Why? lo, over here, can you get me online plz? I promise not to whine about anything if i can just play the game I am paying for.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 00:57:00 - [184] Originally by: Ernhette The patch didn't move my settings to My Documents, but still deleted the settings in my install folder. So now I'm left with no settings saved at all. :( 1) <eve install>/cache/settings folder is empty. 2) C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\My Documents\EVE doesn't have a settings folder. EVE settings in %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings -- .
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:00:00 - [185] Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 20/06/2007 01:01:42 Why, OMFG why do all my window positions have to be reset? WHY OH HOLY ICELAND, WHY? I'M SO SICK OF THIS!!! Please, can't you for once do a major patch that does not screw up all window positions? I'm really sick of it. Seriously. Oh and even with the /end /LUA:OFF switch, the capture and log files are copied to MyDocuments. I thought that switch was there to prevent that? Thank you very much for screwing up my Windows partition. Was it that hard to simply add a prefs.ini entry or a simple configuration tool for setting those paths? Just becuase Microsoft says something doesn't mean it is authomatically the best for everyone. Customizability is the keyword here. I'm so angry rihght now you won't believe that. ARRGH
Malaan Tabfassh Penguin Mining Operations and More	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:01:00 - [186] The loginscreen flickers, when not loggin in immediately (not the animation, the whole window). The speed gauge also flickers sometimes. The ./, key on the numpad doesn't work. I tried changing the digit/decimal setting in the prefs.ini, but there is no effect. That's timestealing for the marketiers. There is no map displayed (only a white box)in the missioninfo window. Good thing you can lock the overload status, but the F#-buttons got really .. er.. big. Would be nice to have an option for smaller buttons. And the LP-shop is great
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:01:00 - [187] BTW, what the hell? Why general, not hardware-dependent settings stored in Local Settings??? Local Settings - folder for machine-related settings, such as display resolution, window positions and local filesystem paths. But permanent hardware-independent settings (Overview presets, bookmark folders etc) MUST BE stored in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data !! -- .
YOGOgoesEVERYWHERE Gallente Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:02:00 - [188] got the worst headache tried logging in after patch and first the wait then the administrator problem which now that ive read this thread i know wat to do...but...because i was waiting for so long and didnt see any progress in like 20min of loggin in...i decided hell ill uninstall eve and download the client again...so now i downloaded the client and it tell me theres an error with the installation process and im stuck outta eve with no useable client...any ideas?
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:03:00 - [189] I enter my pw, click connect and nothing happens. No data moved because I changed the eve.exe as told in the patch notes (winxp user). Ship lovers click here
Ernhette	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:03:00 - [190] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Ernhette The patch didn't move my settings to My Documents, but still deleted the settings in my install folder. So now I'm left with no settings saved at all. :( 1) <eve install>/cache/settings folder is empty. 2) C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\My Documents\EVE doesn't have a settings folder. EVE settings in %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings Thanks! But the game doesn't seem to be using these settings. In game, my overview, volume options, etc. are default.

Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:04:00 - [191] The camera zoom resetting every time you jump bug still exists after 6 months of pages and pages of player complaints.. Way to go! not.. Current Tranquility status: SELECT production_code FROM SISI WHERE testers = 'players' AND testers <> 'ccp_staff' AND testing_duration <> 'sufficient';
Cliptah United Federation of Planets FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:06:00 - [192] there are no drones in ANY belts in drone region. OMG!
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:08:00 - [193] Brilliant move placing almost EVERY gallente lvl5 agents in Placid, NONE in Solitude and ONE in each of the other regions CCP. So I guess the plan to spread people out more was swapped for a case of beer instead? --- We are Recruiting!
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:08:00 - [194] Originally by: Cliptah there are no drones in ANY belts in drone region. OMG! Lol, I think they were a "weaksauce" NPC faction- started up several years later than all the others, and have now been completely defeated. Way to go pod pilot ratters, you won at last! --------
headseed Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:08:00 - [195] Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous. The first time I had to redo my settings (market favorites, windows, overviews, colors, graphics, sounds, etc), it was cute. The second time, mildly annoying. The umpteenth time, I am left asking myself if you even tried out your own patch. Really, really really steamed right now.
Vessper Black Thorne Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:09:00 - [196] Edited by: Vessper on 20/06/2007 01:08:00 "Locking" sound persists even when all items have been locked. Disabling and re-enabling sound seems to get rid of it but still annoying nonetheless. --------------------
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:12:00 - [197] Oh, and even with the /end /LUA:OFF switch the history.txt is stil located in the Local Settings/App Data etc folder. Please, give me an option to completely disable any files there. No crazy links and switches, no batch file workarounds. Give us an option for this change! It is the least that we can demand. Seriously. Forcing everyone to this change was a very bad approach, I'm sorry but it's true.
NightF0x Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:14:00 - [198] Can't get wrecks and cargo containers to show up in overview. I right clicked on them in space and selected "Show Wreck in Overview". The overview flickered then went back to the way it was. Maybe i'm missing a setting but the filters showed both enabled but they didn't show. Relogging didn't help.
Theo Ramone	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:15:00 - [199] Originally by: Cliptah there are no drones in ANY belts in drone region. OMG! Wait, you mean miners might actually start making some decent cash again?!
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:17:00 - [200] LOL I tried to file a petition but it does not show up in my petitions window. Any Dev's that read this could you eve-mail me I found something that could be problematic (I.E. cause hundreds of reimbursement petitions) ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus

Ommulus	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:17:00 - [201] On of my accounts starts and then immedialtly minimizes its window. till now if found no way to open this windows. It minimizes immediatly again.... And CCP - never heard many people use 2 accounts at the same time on the same machine - ....cache folder.... unbelievable. And tell me nothing about difficulties of programming. i know this. but this is .... Asketus/Pizzakiller
Thyrce Rhiannon	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:19:00 - [202] Originally by: headseed Yeah, this is pretty ridiculous. The first time I had to redo my settings (market favorites, windows, overviews, colors, graphics, sounds, etc), it was cute. The second time, mildly annoying. The umpteenth time, I am left asking myself if you even tried out your own patch. Really, really really steamed right now. All of my settings are gone, and somehow, EVE now thinks I need Aura again. All my chat windows blink, and none of the custom chat channels I was in are open anymore. My leet color schema is poof, and all my hard work at getting the overview setting just right is gone too. Could I get a resonse to this sh1t? I mean really, admit you screwed up for once. Just do it, you'll sleep better at night.
George Costanza Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:21:00 - [203] Originally by: Ommulus On of my accounts starts and then immedialtly minimizes its window. till now if found no way to open this windows. It minimizes immediatly again.... And CCP - never heard many people use 2 accounts at the same time on the same machine - ....cache folder.... unbelievable. And tell me nothing about difficulties of programming. i know this. but this is .... Asketus/Pizzakiller try setting both clients to windowed mode again, perhaps one is set to full screen like me. Everything is a mess. I'm losing it right now. This is really f-in annoying.
Aramark Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:22:00 - [204] Originally by: Caldone Edited by: Caldone on 20/06/2007 01:03:56 My brother (on the same network) is playing EVE, I however am not. My status is still unknown and will not let me log. Why? lo, over here, can you get me online plz? I promise not to whine about anything if i can just play the game I am paying for. still getting "unknown" why is that? [/url]
Kiyano Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:25:00 - [205] I'm astonished, no lag, smooth as ever... looks fantastic. Best patch deployment ever! <3 CCP, oh and thanks for the stealth boost to acceleration gates, my caldari slow boat alt thanks you from the bottom of his heart for less km travelled.
George Costanza Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:27:00 - [206] Originally by: George Costanza Originally by: Ommulus On of my accounts starts and then immedialtly minimizes its window. till now if found no way to open this windows. It minimizes immediatly again.... And CCP - never heard many people use 2 accounts at the same time on the same machine - ....cache folder.... unbelievable. And tell me nothing about difficulties of programming. i know this. but this is .... Asketus/Pizzakiller looks like all my bookmark folders are also gonzo.... try setting both clients to windowed mode again, perhaps one is set to full screen like me. Everything is a mess. I'm losing it right now. This is really f-in annoying.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:29:00 - [207] Why does the Triage module require an unrelated level 5 Tech-2 ship skill? I don't recall Siege modules needing Assault Ships V or anything of the sort. Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration is a gunnery skill with gunnery skills as prerequisites. So why doesn't Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration, which is a Mechanic skill, have mechanic skills as prerequisites instead of spaceship command for no reason? And why exactly do we need the skill to ANCHOR AN OUTPOST (anchoring 5) in order to control a POS gun? Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:31:00 - [208] Where is the REAL /cache folder now? I deleted everything but /settings and prefs.ini in /CCP/EVE and also looked for it in My Documents (didn't find it there), but I'm still getting old data, portraits and stuff showing up. What the heck? Learn what it means to be Caldari with Omerta Syndicate
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:33:00 - [209] POTENTIAL HUGE PROBELM WITH WALLETS I log on for first time since patching my client. I go to check my wallet. Dialogue box comes up telling me that I have to select a divisional wallet and that I won't be asked again. I say ok. I select Master Wallet from a list presented. I can freely view the balance in the Master, 2nd and 4th divisional wallets. I cannot view any transaction history (no roles it says). I can, however, give/take money from this wallet! I am NOT a director and do not have any roles that would allow me access to any such wallets. This was confirmed by our directors. Even directors in our corp cannot see or access these wallets. I empty the entire corp wallet. AND..... Transfer it all back to our CEO for safe keeping until he logs on. I may be a pirate, but I'm not corp thief. I wonder how much corp theft is going on though? ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
Ommulus	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:33:00 - [210] I¦cant reset anythin in grapics because the window or fullscreen - i don¦t know - minimizes immediatly before i can¦t do anything. I tried to copy the folder from the first client again for restoring the settings because the first client works. but nothing changes. On my notebook both work . strange.... Must be a graphics problem because i used a 2-screen resolution when i started the game after the patch. I play eve on 2 TFTs most the time. Eve seems to store a wrong information at a place i don¦t know for the 2.client. We¦ll see....

Redsan	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:41:00 - [211] Originally by: Ivankur Logged in everything seems ok so far. I'm running a mission (Pirate Intrusion) in Emolgranlan and it seems like the jumpgate into the next room isn't 'placed' correctly - I actually warped into the next room from what looks to be about 6 km away (near the solar harvester) - kinda cool really. Overview said I was only about 300m away. Got the same thing, looks like I am several km away from gate, but overview shows 0m. Also, when looting wrecks, every time the wreck cargo opens or closes, the game hesitates about a second.
OberFuhrer Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:42:00 - [212] I like the LP store. Awesome idea. Yeah the actual LP's may need fixing, but this is a great new feature I think.
Avaton	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:52:00 - [213] The LP store for the Blood Raiders lists the ships as BPOs. But once you purchase them they show as a 1 run BPC in your hanger.
Szprinkoth Sponsz Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:52:00 - [214] Spacelane Patrol LP store gives me Gallente offers. Is this intended? Do the canary spin!
Ommulus	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:52:00 - [215] Now my 2. clients works again. It seems Eve stores some information about graphics modes at the server ??? I configured eve at my notebook (where the client worked)to 1024 *768 Set my gaming PC to this reolution too. And- it worked Now i had my 2. client accessable and could change it to working resolutions ... . Asketus/Pizzakiller
Ashala Arcsylver Gallente Gypsy Rose Mining	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:55:00 - [216] Was browsing my skills to check what to train next and noticed that yet again the Salvage Drone skill has been removed without it actually showing any reduction in skill points or change in known skills. Was this an unannounced change or merely an oversight in mentioning it in the patch notes?
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:55:00 - [217] speed indicator is jerky as in not smooth. ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Dagrin RDM Caldari The Knights of the New Republic Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2007.06.20 01:56:00 - [218] Edited by: Dagrin RDM on 20/06/2007 01:56:01 Everything seems mostly smooth..but.. I seem to have lost the advanced graphics options from having advancedDevice=1 in my prefs.ini file. No anti-aliasing makes me a cranky boy.
Aramark Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:00:00 - [219] Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong. thats my issue [/url]
Sapphrine The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:03:00 - [220] Overview settings problem here: Lost all settings as expected, kept backup of cache/settings and pref.ini files. Attempted to over-write the new ones with my old ones after patching successfully. First problem was finding where to. Tried %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings and also the old location in my eve directory but neither appears to be doing anything to recover my overview settings. Can anyone who has successfully migrated their overview settings across post the answer in a clear format? Many thanks, p.s. good job CCP, this appears to have gone fairly smoothly i'd say all in all!

Riga Mortiss	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:03:00 - [221] Bit of a panic attack here. but. ummm. being a resident in the "Drone Regions" the belt spawn has disappeared... ran a system that used to spawn regularly 5 times and only ran into one set of very low end drones. Since the majority of our isk comes from ratting, and we get no loot drops other than the alloys this is serious. Other than mining we're pretty much buggered. Was this intentional? Or an "oopsie" from the patch and if so will it get addressed asap? Thx..
Polysynchronicity Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:04:00 - [222] The LP store has no confirmation dialog when accepting an offer. I found this out when I clicked on the LP store window to bring it to the front, and to my suprise recieved a brand new implant for the cost of 10k LP and 10 million ISK. Now I'm stuck with a nearly worthless implant that I almost certainly wouldn't have purchased otherwise. I'd suggest that CCP looks into this issue soon, or quite a few other players may have the same problem. ----- That glorious ship is a Templar-class fighter, the sword of light and purity which our carriers shall drive into the hearts of the Minmatar heretics!
Caullus	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:04:00 - [223] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Originally by: Precentor A Dev stated here that these R&D agents would have Mechanical Engineering research teams, but when I looked at the Amarr ones it is not showing up under the agentÆs info thanks for reporting this, will investigate and fix asap. This is also true of Gallente R & D Agents as well.
Anwylyd Al'Vos Minmatar United Anti-Enheduanni Front	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:06:00 - [224] Great stuff, the new UI is awesome, and the LP system owns... grazie on a clean launch : - Links
Jamier Legov	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:07:00 - [225] When I uncheck "Pilot has neutral standing" in the overview, stargates do not show up in overview. This is a problem if you want to fly through empire without seeing all the neutral ships. Has anyone else noticed this, and is it a bug?
NightF0x Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:08:00 - [226] i figured out my issue. Either I didn't set it up right or CCP changed wrecks and cargo containers but I have to have alliance, good standings, high standings and corp members enabled to see all wrecks and cargo containers. I don't remember it being this way before so I may have something screwy from having to reset all of my settings.
Imuran	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:08:00 - [227] Originally by: CCP Chronotis Originally by: Precentor A Dev stated here that these R&D agents would have Mechanical Engineering research teams, but when I looked at the Amarr ones it is not showing up under the agentÆs info thanks for reporting this, will investigate and fix asap. Also seems to apply to the Gallente ones Further bug concerning R&D agents Running a mission for them wipes all the Research entries in the Journal - not tried relogging to see if they reappear
Ishi Da	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:08:00 - [228] still cant get to the log in screen.
Barrett West Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:09:00 - [229] I don't find the LP store very useful - I used to get the nice implants for 15-20k lp's alone, even if I had to wait for the offer... now I get the nice implants by paying LP's and isk, and the isk cost is equal or more than the market value of the implant... wtf? That makes the LP's pretty much useless, unless I plan on saving up 600k for a CNR. I think you should be able to get things entirely for LP's as long as you're willing to pay enough LP's.
NightF0x Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:09:00 - [230] Originally by: Jamier Legov When I uncheck "Pilot has neutral standing" in the overview, stargates do not show up in overview. This is a problem if you want to fly through empire without seeing all the neutral ships. Has anyone else noticed this, and is it a bug? that may be a similar issue that i encountered with wrecks and cargo containers. it seems that some objects are now associated with standings, alliance and corp members in the overview.

MellaRinn The Scope	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:10:00 - [231] \o/ probe launchers are no longer busy while scanning (can reload) and you can start analysing right after the activation (no need 2 wait 15 sec; and no - the time isn't added to the scan countdown) \o/ edit: in other news - the countdown bar is not reflecting the countdown number properly My Vids - Click
Don Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:13:00 - [232] i have an issue with my heavy assault missiles all relevant missile skills are at lvl 5 before the patch im pretty sure i had 34000 range with both T1 and T2 HAM's in my cerberus after the patch i have 34000 with T1 but only 24000 with T2 ok ill admit i could have missed it before the patch but i doubt it and dont see any reason why my T2's should have shorter range(its the version where the drawback should be less cap recharge) so maybe one of the 2 skills or one of the cerberus bonusses arent working on T2 HAM's now?
GO MaZ Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:17:00 - [233] Hardwiring - Zainou 'Gypsy' KMB-50 gives the same bonus as Hardwiring - Zainou 'Gypsy' KMB-25, but the latter has lower skill requirements and is cheaper. Intended?
Iron McFly CHAF tech	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:19:00 - [234] Originally by: TeaDaze Originally by: Miter Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you. Signed. Please for the love of <insert deity> give us a configuration option for where the game saves data. The My Documents folder is for My Documents, not for random game files. Game settings should stay with in the game folder so that if it is moved to another machine / HD / etc it still works. Just another paying customer who is sick and tired of program settings under windows being spread between registry, profile, application data within the profile, my documents, my games and program directories... YEA - what they said - F-WinBlows and My Documents; Settings (Bookmarks, Overview, Menu sizes and colors,..) should be in C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\... as was b4 patch !
JADE DRAG0NESS Native Freshfood	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:20:00 - [235] Just looked at the new bombs for stealth bombers and i have to say WOW COOL. "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
Flamewave Crimson Moon Society	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:21:00 - [236] Originally by: Don Caldari i have an issue with my heavy assault missiles all relevant missile skills are at lvl 5 before the patch im pretty sure i had 34000 range with both T1 and T2 HAM's in my cerberus after the patch i have 34000 with T1 but only 24000 with T2 ok ill admit i could have missed it before the patch but i doubt it and dont see any reason why my T2's should have shorter range(its the version where the drawback should be less cap recharge) so maybe one of the 2 skills or one of the cerberus bonusses arent working on T2 HAM's now? I recall T2 rage HAMs having roughly a 24km range pre-patch.
F0J4R Caldari RONA Corporation FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:21:00 - [237] Absolutly NO drones in drone regions. Went through two systems, every belt, nothing.
VanNostrum Cataphract Securities	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:21:00 - [238] hello world
Andrus Delai e X i l e FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:22:00 - [239] Research Agents tab in the Journal had my agents listed and no shows nothing.
Jamala	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:22:00 - [240] It was posted that Sitaleere Beene would be offering the Mechanical Engineering Research field in Rev II. Just checked with him and Mechanical Engineering has not been added to his list.

scorp3	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:24:00 - [241] I would like to ask if ccp nerfed the hacking areas buy changing the drop rate of certain items like instalation guides
Rax Starfire Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:25:00 - [242] I got in, game looks beautiful..one thing, has mission difficulty been increased overall? I just tried "The Score" level 1 in a rifter and I left in a pod, those SOB's threw everything but the kitchen sink at me...come to think of it they threw that too, only it was attached to a missle
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:33:00 - [243] missing amarr lvl5 agents. ive looked through all corps agents now, 6 agents for amarr empire. where is the other 4? 3 for amarr navy 2 ministry of war 1 ministry of internal order so where is the missing ones? this was the same result i got on sisi 3 days ago. but i was told then the rest were the ones from way back, which were taken out of the game some time ago, would be the last 4. yet.. zoar and sons have 0 lvl5 agent, and they had a lvl5 agent 2 years ago.
Snake Jankins Minmatar Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:35:00 - [244] Originally by: Sirius Problem POTENTIAL HUGE PROBELM WITH WALLETS I log on for first time since patching my client. I go to check my wallet. Dialogue box comes up telling me that I have to select a divisional wallet and that I won't be asked again. I say ok. I select Master Wallet from a list presented. I can freely view the balance in the Master, 2nd and 4th divisional wallets. I cannot view any transaction history (no roles it says). I can, however, give/take money from this wallet! I am NOT a director and do not have any roles that would allow me access to any such wallets. This was confirmed by our directors. Even directors in our corp cannot see or access these wallets. I empty the entire corp wallet. AND..... Transfer it all back to our CEO for safe keeping until he logs on. I may be a pirate, but I'm not corp thief. I wonder how much corp theft is going on though? I wanted to try that out so I invited an alt into my corp. He has no access to anything and can't see the corp wallet per default either. Now I wanted to give him titles and roles to try out some more, but he doesn't appear in the role management list yet. Wonder if that ever updates. Relogging didn't help. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Cistja	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:40:00 - [245] A couple of things don't know if they have all ready been mentioned or not but I'll say them anyway. first i think you have got the LP store wrong for Spacelane patrol, the last time I checked they were a Caldari corp with no offices in Gallente space, yet a large portion of there offers are of Gallente origin and they require Caldari tags which are Illegal in Caldari space. secondly the the Agents research tabs in the journal are screwed, it is not showing me as having any agents yet I know I have four.
Wez Drubnyeskov	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:41:00 - [246] I can't find ANY Gallente R&D agents with Mechanical Engineering, guess that didn't happen then
Coarl	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:44:00 - [247] it's prolly been mentioned several times before but... if the client is going to migrate folders etc, then at the very least it should migrate other info. I am really pi$$ed off at having to (once again!!!) repopulate the images to the faces i see in my neck of the woods.... FFS sort it out >:(( actually leave it alone.. that way i can at least get the mugshots up without you guys pi$$ing around with them.... (Beleive it or not, it's nice to know what your enemy looks like =/ >:/ )
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:45:00 - [248] Edited by: Feng Schui on 20/06/2007 02:44:47 1) Modules requiring tags: 2) LP store showing the price as numerals.. not currency: 3) Cannot see what is jamming / using ewar on you, when you have the show readout active(the text overlaps): 4) No item group for faction module BPC's in Contracts: 5) No confirmation dialog box when purchasing from LP store (you should be able to disable it if you want): 6) The bigger module buttons totally fubar the deployed DRONES section of the UI (Using 2 groups, 5x small, 5x medium drones): 7) When you look up a corporation, then when you show info on the CEO, the resulting window is completely fuggered up: Other tweaks please: 1) Why is an NPC Raven jamming me? Please make jamming race specific ships for NPC's (for example.. a scorpion battleship should be the one jamming, not a raven) 2) Drone interface should be, at a minimum, undockable from the rest of the overview. 3) Bookmarks / Overview settings / Address list shouldn't get unorganized during a patch. My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Keira Fordring Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:45:00 - [249] Edited by: Keira Fordring on 20/06/2007 02:47:26 Please make the flashing color indicators for weapons (active/reloading/going offline/etc.) a bit darker. Currently it's difficult to see which modules are active depending on the background in space.
Aramark Omega Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:46:00 - [250] is anyone having the "unknown" problem? how can i fix it? [/url]

Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:48:00 - [251] Edited by: Arushia on 20/06/2007 02:47:26 The new implants (Squire, Beancounter, Snapshot, Alchemist) are not searchable in market or contracts. The Squire EP2 implant lists a bonus of -0.00 sec. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
Peanut Swsh Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:53:00 - [252] my speed indicator has parkinsons. why break stuff ccp?
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:55:00 - [253] That ******* eve voice is stuck on enabled as well. Have all the prefs.ini flags changed? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=539861 -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Jack Pliskin	Posted - 2007.06.20 02:59:00 - [254] The "Audio Improvements" that were included in your patch completely screwed up the audio on my computer (or something in the patch did). I can't get any sound from my media players or voice comm programs. The only sound I can hear while EVE is running is EVE. Quote: Audio Improvements * The Audio Engine has been upgraded from FMOD to FMOD Ex Sound System by Firelight Technologies
Lillybeth	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:05:00 - [255] Originally by: Imuran Further bug concerning R&D agents Running a mission for them wipes all the Research entries in the Journal - not tried relogging to see if they reappear [/quote I see the same issue.
Shurikane	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:14:00 - [256] Edited by: Shurikane on 20/06/2007 03:14:05 Issues, issues, here's some issues: -Lost overview settings (again?!) -Lost color settings (why can't we save our own presets already? Windows has been allowing that kind of thing since forever!) -Clicking "use middle mouse button to talk" in the audio options causes a CtD. -Random graphical glitches and screen tears that virtually bring the computer to a halt until I quit the game or ALT-TAB out and kill the process. -The icon size of the LP store contents is Xbox-sized. Hell, I could do without the icon at all just to be able to see the list more clearly and efficiently. Filters would be welcome too. -EVE voice functionality is still guided by the uncertainty principle.
scorp3	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:17:00 - [257] Im having the same problems with telling if my weapons are active or not in some of the systems with similar colors
Jurgen Cartis	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:18:00 - [258] advancedDevice = 1 no longer works. I cannot turn on Anti Aliasing to make my Caldari ships less ugly. I had a Sisi build of Reveleations II going earlier, so if that had some influence on how the data was migrated, that may affect it. Also, my login screen flickers like mad. The best word I can use to describe it is 'psychedelic'.
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:20:00 - [259] I have a 680i motherboard with realtek onboard audio the latest drivers from evga and in rev 2 patch sound *****les and cuts out and in alot. Was no sound issues pre patch. Also the client hitches when you loot one wreck and it goes to close, pretty darn annoying to.
Baldari Ironfist	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:21:00 - [260] There seems to be an issue with rats not spawning in the drone regions. I've checked multiple systems, and I've found 2 groups of rats. The systems in question have all been loaded for over 2 hours now. Think you could add the rats back in when you add our ice back? I have to say, CCP really doesn't support the drone regions well. From exploration to the asteroid belts to the ice fields, you've really dropped the ball on this one. Why should we get excited about new changes when you can't get the old ones to work correctly. I hate patch day.

Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:21:00 - [261] I just found that I can start scanning with both scan probes and the onboard scanner while cloaked. You still have to decloak to change probes in your launcher or to launch a probe. But you can remain cloaked to start a scan. Not sure if that was intended or not, as I couldn't find it in the patchnotes, but two thumbs up for it regardless! SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Zeko Rena Caldari Tangent Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:25:00 - [262] Edited by: Zeko Rena on 20/06/2007 03:26:37 Wow sounds like quite a few bugs, mostly hilarious ones lol, im about to log in, wish me luck! OMG my mouse is cloaked -------------------------- Har Har, sig is finnaly mod proof.
Seramyr l'Ethia Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:27:00 - [263] Edited by: Seramyr l''Ethia on 20/06/2007 03:32:05 Unless I am just extremely unlucky, the encounters in <surprise> drone regions </surprise> seem glitched. I've ran quite a few so far today, three of which escalated to a commander spawn. The commanders all dropped nothing. A couple friends in normal regions have reported more favorable results. Is there a discrepancy here? Also we really, really need encounters moved from the 'unknown' category when using multispecs/quests into a diferent one, and as quickly as possible.
Asterisk Grat	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:32:00 - [264] Originally by: Keira Fordring Edited by: Keira Fordring on 20/06/2007 02:47:26 Please make the flashing color indicators for weapons (active/reloading/going offline/etc.) a bit darker. Currently it's difficult to see which modules are active depending on the background in space. Agree, visually not clear which modules you have active and which you don't. Very important during PVP or PVE. Colors and flashing need to work out better.
Elexorien Valorien	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:33:00 - [265] I'd just like to say that the Need for Speed really pulled through. While some aspects have a noticeable speed improvement, there are others that aren't as noticeable but you can still tell its faster than before. Over all, an excellent patch. Thank you very much CCP :) Now if we can just get you to stop resetting all the settings....
Victor Ivanov Minmatar Liberty Rogues Hammer Time.	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:34:00 - [266] Having the following issues: -Overview settings lost -Bookmark settings lost -Drone settings lost (noo. Gonna have to resort the 600 drones in my drone bay now. >_<) I think this is due to cache folder being moved. ----------------------
Helspeth Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:34:00 - [267] Edited by: Helspeth on 20/06/2007 03:38:16 Edited by: Helspeth on 20/06/2007 03:36:20 Posting my feedback so far, starting with the bad: 1) Sound loop bug. At least three times tonight various sounds have gotten stuck in a loop. It's easily fixed by toggling the "audio enabled" button under audio, but it'd be nice to be fixed. So far I've gotten the targetting sound stuck, and a random thumping in the background twice. 2) Loyalty point window resizing when closed. Be nice if this was changed to save your sizing of it so it doesn't come up as the small window at the top of the screen everytime you open it. 3) Be nice to be able to drag and link loyalty point items. Pretty simple, today when telling my corpmates about some of the implants I could get I wanted to link them from the loyalty point window but couldn't. 4) Strange graphics glitch with standard missiles. On several missions tonight (level 2 missions) I've seen graphics and heard sounds as if my ship was being struck by standard missiles, yet I've seen no damage in the log or anything come up on screen. It's almost as if the mission npcs are shooting missiles at me out of range and while the missile isn't striking me, its a little disconcerting to hear a blast and see a missile striking my ship graphic. 5)Heat gauges making the slots much bigger and carrying over to the right where I used to use overview be space. It'd be nice if those of us without heat could toggle this off. I kind of liked having my slots packed together tightly and able to use the far right for overview space, but now I can't. 6) Jamming graphic and timer on top of the ship readout. Someone else posted this but I have the same problem and its very annoying. I keep the ship readout in percentages up, and when i get jammed I just have a big mess of shield readout and whoever's jamming me on top of each other. Other than that, I have to say very nice job from what I've seen so far. I've had next to lag, the sounds are crisper (minus the sound loop issue), and the loyalty point store is very cool.
The Jackyl Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:34:00 - [268] None of the "new" implants offered in LP stores show up on markets, won't quick-link and are not in the item database on the website. Had planned on spending some LP on implants but wold be a complete waste until I know what implants are available for which slots in the gamenow.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:35:00 - [269] Before patch my mega beams had optimal 42 + 18 falloff with multifreq now its 26 optimal with 18 falloff with same guns and same ammo, were they changed somehow?
Sixtyniner 5th Avenue	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:40:00 - [270] I had a really weird problem earlier. Audio enabled, but as soon I moved the mouse cursor the music (not all of the sounds, just the music) just reset and the track started over. Anyone else had this wierd experience since patch?

Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:44:00 - [271] Originally by: Gneeznow Before patch my mega beams had optimal 42 + 18 falloff with multifreq now its 26 optimal with 18 falloff with same guns and same ammo, were they changed somehow? its part of the amarr boost clearly. in the next patch they will fix things like lower cpu on quad beams, 10 more cpu on the auguror and other stuff which clearly would give amarr the much needed boost.
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:53:00 - [272] The compare tool unchecks all attributes for comparison by default. This is annoying. Interesting times await...
Goen Bonkas	Posted - 2007.06.20 03:58:00 - [273] Originally by: Gneiss Breaker Edited by: Gneiss Breaker on 20/06/2007 00:48:52 I too get the "login as administrator to complete migration" message..... despite logging in to 3 different accounts (a user with local admin, the local administrator and the domain administrator). (edit) Solved it!!!!! It's caused by too many gamelogs. I had ~3.5 years worth in the (old, pre-patch) ...\CCP\EVE\capture\Gamelogs directory - I zipped all but the last months worth into an archive, and now I can log in etc just fine, no warning message.
Helspeth Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:04:00 - [274] Another feedback note: standing gain is severely broken from mission gains. There's a thread about it in the mission forum, but myself and others are noticing gains from as little as 0.003 to actually zero as the original poster in the forums linked a screenshot of.
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:14:00 - [275] Almost everything in this patch is great. Almost. cough -----
Swindy BlackOps Brigade	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:16:00 - [276] Originally by: Jamier Legov When I uncheck "Pilot has neutral standing" in the overview, stargates do not show up in overview. This is a problem if you want to fly through empire without seeing all the neutral ships. Has anyone else noticed this, and is it a bug? Yep, I get the same thing.
Soto ShinDo Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:27:00 - [277] Originally by: Helspeth Edited by: Helspeth on 20/06/2007 03:38:16 Edited by: Helspeth on 20/06/2007 03:36:20 Posting my feedback so far, starting with the bad: 1) Sound loop bug. At least three times tonight various sounds have gotten stuck in a loop. It's easily fixed by toggling the "audio enabled" button under audio, but it'd be nice to be fixed. So far I've gotten the targetting sound stuck, and a random thumping in the background twice. 2) Loyalty point window resizing when closed. Be nice if this was changed to save your sizing of it so it doesn't come up as the small window at the top of the screen everytime you open it. 3) Be nice to be able to drag and link loyalty point items. Pretty simple, today when telling my corpmates about some of the implants I could get I wanted to link them from the loyalty point window but couldn't. 4) Strange graphics glitch with standard missiles. On several missions tonight (level 2 missions) I've seen graphics and heard sounds as if my ship was being struck by standard missiles, yet I've seen no damage in the log or anything come up on screen. It's almost as if the mission npcs are shooting missiles at me out of range and while the missile isn't striking me, its a little disconcerting to hear a blast and see a missile striking my ship graphic. 5)Heat gauges making the slots much bigger and carrying over to the right where I used to use overview be space. It'd be nice if those of us without heat could toggle this off. I kind of liked having my slots packed together tightly and able to use the far right for overview space, but now I can't. 6) Jamming graphic and timer on top of the ship readout. Someone else posted this but I have the same problem and its very annoying. I keep the ship readout in percentages up, and when i get jammed I just have a big mess of shield readout and whoever's jamming me on top of each other. Other than that, I have to say very nice job from what I've seen so far. I've had next to lag, the sounds are crisper (minus the sound loop issue), and the loyalty point store is very cool. /100% signed. Why write everything again if somebody else has exactly the same problems . Only thing I have to add is that I've never seen Drones moving that fast . They finally found the 'MWD Switch'
Yon89	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:28:00 - [278] i get a looping sound of targeting after i have targeted something Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:31:00 - [279] my research agent list in the journal doesnt "activate" anymore - since i ran a mission for one -
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:37:00 - [280] Edited by: chrisreeves on 20/06/2007 04:36:47 Okay, I did a fresh install. I need the command line exactly how I should have it because it wasn't working when I did it earlier. btw, im using XP and I have two clients that I use and I want to keep the settings seperate. ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"

JP Beauregard Gallente Pilkington Communications	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:42:00 - [281] As much as I enjoy resetting every window and retooling my overview after ever bleeping patch, I have come to expect that these things work (kinda) once I'm done. No matter what I select to be shown in the overview (including the use of SELECT ALL), jump gates will NOT show. Which -if you ask me - is something of an impediment to swift travel...
Kwint Sommer	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:45:00 - [282] Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 20/06/2007 04:44:31 The LP Store seems to be broken for me. I'm trying to get the CNR offer from the Caldari Navy and I have a Raven, more than 600,000 LP and the appropriate chip all in the same hanger at a Caldari Navy station. It shows accept but clicking it does nothing. I've tried restarting the client and tried it at a different stations but no luck. I'm stumped. Advice? File a bug report? Here is someone else with the exact same problem
Trader Man	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:48:00 - [283] Seems to be a corp issue. I have a 1 man corp where I just had a new person join up to take over as CEO. Accepted the application and whole bit, however, I can resign as CEO nor give the new member any roles. When I try to resign it tells me I am the only member of the corp and that it will be closed. Member list for the corp reflect 2 members.
Toria Nynys Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:48:00 - [284] Crashed in a mission (locked up client), now logging in hangs in the 'entering character selection' dialog. Gave it 30 minutes, going to try a re-install of the client to see if that fixes things.
azealea	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:53:00 - [285] I can log on with laptop , desktop shows screen then puff disappears , no log on screen at all
Signaldog Gallente Venom.	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:54:00 - [286] I'm sure it's been posted already, but here's what i've noticed so far. o Speed readout is extremely jerky, needs to be smoothed out. o Colors are all wrong guys, but it looks okay, just wouldn't have chosen the black for the dropdowns. o Not sure about the standing gain/loss issue, only done a few missions, but my standing didn't change and that isn't normal (i don't think). That's about it so far, but give me a few days and i'm sure i'll find something else wrong. READ MY SALVAGER THREAD HERE!!!!
Draaken Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:56:00 - [287] Originally by: Rimhawk Originally by: Ashkevron Do what the patch notes said people. RIGHT CLICK the Eve icon and choose run as administrator I am the administrator. I have the option but there simply is no other user to select than the one I currently am. However the name of my Administrator account is not Administrator.... perhaps someone hardcoded it? Windows XP does allow it to be changed on installation. The default administrator account for XP (the one that can actually do everything) is always called Administrator as far as I'm aware. However, it doesn't show in the list of selectable users in XB-style login window. You might have to switch login style to classic, change user name to Administrator and leave the password field blank; not sure if that will work and I cba to read the entire feedback thread right now, just thought I'd throw this in for your consideration in case you still have the problem. _____ Originally by: t20 So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level.
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:00:00 - [288] I've seen notes about missing loyalty points, but is there also a bug with the LP Store wherein you can't accept an item even if you have the prereqs? I'm trying accept a CNR for 600k LP, a tech 1 raven, and a Caldari AZ-1 nexus chip, but when I click "accept" nothing happens (I have the LP, and both required items are in the station I'm at). Oh, and WTF at Spacelane Patrol also offering Megathron Navy Issues and Vexor Navy Issues. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Bolt Thrower	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:02:00 - [289] The "deliver to" option does not appear in the right click menu for me. This may have already been stated, but i haven't the time to cull through 9+ pages. Nice work on the patch. Loving the LP store.
Keira Fordring Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:07:00 - [290] Edited by: Keira Fordring on 20/06/2007 05:06:52 Not a huge deal but as soon as I logged in I was greeted with: "Welcome, I am Aura, your ship's computer..." She wanted me to go through the tutorial again. Fortunately this can be shut off by closing her window but it really shouldn't happen in the first place.

Edu Journeyman Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:08:00 - [291] Until now, only got the targeting sound stucked bug, the sound remain even if you dock a station, only solution is to uncheck and check again the sound. BTW, I have Realtek AC97, was working really crapy before Revelations 2, and now, except by this "target sound" issue, it's sounding great. Be your journeys long and prosperous. Treat the others as you like to be treated. Rude and fool are enemies.
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:10:00 - [292] Well, I had a list of problems, but it looks like they've all been brought up. So that just leaves the thanks. Thanks and congratulations, CCP. This deployment looks quite successful so far. :) * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Riven Starkill Caldari Regalis Industria Scientia Entreprendre Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:14:00 - [293] Originally by: Barrett West I don't find the LP store very useful - I used to get the nice implants for 15-20k lp's alone, even if I had to wait for the offer... now I get the nice implants by paying LP's and isk, and the isk cost is equal or more than the market value of the implant... wtf? That makes the LP's pretty much useless, unless I plan on saving up 600k for a CNR. I think you should be able to get things entirely for LP's as long as you're willing to pay enough LP's. Ok, I haven't been able to log in yet, but I am wondering what everyone's first impressions are of the LP store. Have they significantly altered the price of items? TBH... I was hoping that it would make the price of faction ships and gear less expensive. Right now those faction ships are more often than not gathering dust or are only used for missions in high sec - because they are too expensive to risk in PVP. This seems like a waste - they should definately be more than regular gear, and maybe even more than T2 stuff - but look at the price of a Rattlesnake or CNR - its nuts! Does anyone know if a price sheet has been started by anyone? I am thinking of something along the lines of Eve Info Agent Offers DB.
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:25:00 - [294] Edited by: Hockston Axe on 20/06/2007 05:28:31 Originally by: Riven Starkill Originally by: Barrett West I don't find the LP store very useful - I used to get the nice implants for 15-20k lp's alone, even if I had to wait for the offer... now I get the nice implants by paying LP's and isk, and the isk cost is equal or more than the market value of the implant... wtf? That makes the LP's pretty much useless, unless I plan on saving up 600k for a CNR. I think you should be able to get things entirely for LP's as long as you're willing to pay enough LP's. Ok, I haven't been able to log in yet, but I am wondering what everyone's first impressions are of the LP store. Have they significantly altered the price of items? TBH... I was hoping that it would make the price of faction ships and gear less expensive. Right now those faction ships are more often than not gathering dust or are only used for missions in high sec - because they are too expensive to risk in PVP. This seems like a waste - they should definately be more than regular gear, and maybe even more than T2 stuff - but look at the price of a Rattlesnake or CNR - its nuts! Does anyone know if a price sheet has been started by anyone? I am thinking of something along the lines of Eve Info Agent Offers DB. I posted a thread in Market Discussions about this a day or two ago, it should answer all your questions about new pricing. The mission standing gains are totally screwed, you basically get no standing from missions right now. This needs to be fixed ASAP and there really should be a warning in MOTD or something considering how many mission runners there are + the LP store hype, that the missions are totally buggered right now. edit: the forums allow bugger but not *****?
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:27:00 - [295] The LP store has at least caused speculation to make the price of implants drop. When you log on, have a look at what +5s are going for! Quote: I don't find the LP store very useful - I used to get the nice implants for 15-20k lp's alone, even if I had to wait for the offer... now I get the nice implants by paying LP's and isk, and the isk cost is equal or more than the market value of the implant... wtf? Sounds to me like CCP are trying to stop the status quo, which is of course that LP = ISK. Now you cash in loyalty points for the rewards of your choosing, which should kill off a lot of the inflation we've seen. Still haven't received a petition response, nor an announcment, on how to fix all the problems created by the prefs.ini "nerf". Come on CCP! Please don't let us down now... -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:33:00 - [296] Edited by: Miter on 20/06/2007 05:34:01 While it is nice to see a CCP response to the one, single issue on this thread so far, it sort of makes the rest of the issues remaining unacknowledged, seem worse. It would help if http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp was cleared or updated so that things reported here started showing up there, or update the original post at least. It would also help if fanbois who think absolutely nothing is wrong with this release would refrain from posting issue-less posts on this thread. Thank you.
Togotchen Renamour Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:39:00 - [297] Issues and confirmations: 1. Looping targeting sound on AC97 integrated chipset. (Upgraded to 4.0 of the Realtek driver just to see if it was a driver issue- it wasn't. Same problem.) 2. Graphics performance is "slushy". I'm running two nVidia 7600GT in SLI mode (On an Athlon XP 4600+ with 2 gigs RAM). Prior to the patch the graphics were perfectly smooth (at 1440*900) everywhere. Now there are a lot of load pauses and in game movements feel "slushy"- especially during combat.. I haven't changed my card settings or drivers [they are up to date](Debug code still in the binaries?!?!) 3. Quit Error: If I click the checkbox under audio to use the middle mouse button to talk- the game just quits. 4. (Perhaps intended): Hand coded prefs changes seem to have no effect. I cannot find a prefs file in the new folders under my docs, nor in the associated hidden folders. Changes to the prefs file in the installation folder seem to have no effect. Long day... good night. Tmorrow I have to debug my own software :( -- Soltaris > wow... now that sounds like a good time! What do you need from me? Togotchen Renamour > You need to shave your body smooth, and get hold of a Gorn costume. Also, learn the lyrics to "I love a parade". Soltaris > haha... hmm... how about if I just learn the lyrics? The Gorn
Idara Caldari Missioners Anonymous	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:41:00 - [298] Can't accept the CNR offer. It's already been mentioned...but I'll mention it again. Can't accept the CNR offer. Have the Raven + AZ-1 chip. Tried with the Raven assembled, and unassembled. Tried relogging. Tried moving stations. Nothing. --- in EVE - Idara
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:42:00 - [299] Oh yeah, the new overview 'type' column is awesome. It's about time really.
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:44:00 - [300] Originally by: Maglorre For everyone whining about the file locations changes, check out junctions Should be a solution for some. Not really if you're running a second EVE installation for Sisi. The whole Documents & Settings stuff was a VERY bad idea in the first place. Furthermore it obviously hasn't been tested as carful as necessary.

Udoshi Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:46:00 - [301] LUA:Off and /end aren't working. Prefs.ini is gone. Want old performance/folders as a checkbox option.
Mika Minite	Posted - 2007.06.20 05:52:00 - [302] Standing gains from missions appear to be suffering from a stacking penalty type effect. Is this a bug or an intential nerf targeted at sweatshop mission grinders? Are those of us who have the time to do more than one mission a day meant to spread our LP and standings across half a dozen corps?
NetMage	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:12:00 - [303] Lost all my settings (again!) Lots of implants in the LP store have a description that reads 3% but a spec that says 1%.
Facilitator	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:16:00 - [304] The client will not load for me. I deleted the cash, and when that did not work I reinstaled the client completely. It starts up like it wants to run, then it just goes away. Although the client closes, the exe file still runs. I have no idea whats going on. BTW am runing Vista Home Premium
Sarrian Calda Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:18:00 - [305] Edited by: Sarrian Calda on 20/06/2007 06:19:38 Some windows not coming on top in response to mouse-clicks. Clicking on the windows in the background won't bring it to the front on top of other windows. Hafta close the window in the background and re-open it to get it to the front. The windows I've noticed currently are the Chat/Channel windows, and the ship cargohold window. New FMOD Ex audio engine seems to be a little faulty. Not all sounds are played. Fast clicking between items and such would result in latter sounds not played, and sometimes sounds just won't play, randomly. Music doesn't play continously, or won't play at all, until I activate a mission's acceleration gate that triggered music playback, then I'll get music, but not the combat music as it supposed to be(it plays the ambient music instead). Accepting a Reward from LP Store does not have a confirmation screen for accepting the reward. This could lead to accidental clicks and unnecessary groans when someone wanted to bring the LP Store window to the front, but by reflex he just click on the window, and the Accept button happened to be right where he clicked, and there goes his LP and ISK on whatever item was that. Since EVE have confirmation windows all over it, why not LP Store too?
Emma Royd Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:26:00 - [306] Just patched all my clients this morning (I have a copy of each client for each account), and thought it a little odd that when I selected a new account to load up to make sure it'd patched it brought the username of the account I'd just done not the current one. I thought it was something to do with the patching process so I quit and started again, but no, now everytime I use one of the clients on my machine it reverts to the username of the account last logged in regardless of which client I used. Also, it seems all my client's individual chat logs have been merged into one folder :( I've just tried altering the shortcut and get the following popup error message. The name 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. So now what do I do? I'm using XP Home Another great plan thought up by CCP I guess, at least it will save me some space on my harddrive if there's no point in having multiple copies of my account on there. It's not often I'm wrong, apart from the comments I make in the signature, and then I'm often wrong. On the other hand maybe I'm getting confused. ......My head hurts :(
Barwinius Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:28:00 - [307] Working flawlessly for me, thank you!
Crissy Gallente Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:32:00 - [308] Originally by: Idara Can't accept the CNR offer. It's already been mentioned...but I'll mention it again. Can't accept the CNR offer. Have the Raven + AZ-1 chip. Tried with the Raven assembled, and unassembled. Tried relogging. Tried moving stations. Nothing. Yep I have having that same problem but on the gallente side. Have the gallente alpha nexus chip and I tried the same thing to repack/assembled the ship and nothing. I bought 500 LP item from the gall navy store and it worked just fine. Also when i went to my interbus agent, there is nothing showing up for the LP store which has something to do with them not owning their stations. Another thing that I am having a problem with is my client is using my sisi settings. I got the message a little late from a corp mate about deleting sisi's cache in my docs before patching the new client. I tried to delete the cache in my main EVE folder and from my documents and deleted sisi client, and my current client is still using my sisi settings. My Question is, how am I suppose to run multiple clients when the cache is shared between them? Sig. Concept Version 1.3 Solider of "Freedom-Technologies"
Foxy PurpleHaze	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:35:00 - [309] Originally by: ZaKma 1) If you have a Singularity client you already have a folder called EVE in My Documents. Thus your old settings are NOT copied over and you're left with the ones from Sisi. 2) If you have multiple clients they overwrite each other because now cache/capture are always in the same place. CCP I hope you do something about that. Very very annoying issues. //signed I was running 2 clients on 2 separate installs of the game. The reason I did this was that when using just one install, all my settings would occasionally reset, and some weird stuff would just happen. 2 clients in separate locations fixed that. Now all cached stuff will be in the same place again, no matter how many clients you have. That will mess things up again. It will be an even bigger problem with a separate client for the test server :(
Sarrian Calda Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:37:00 - [310] Originally by: Emma Royd I've just tried altering the shortcut and get the following popup error message. The name 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. Emma, you add the /end /LUA:OFF AFTER the quotes, not inside the quotes. It should look like this for you: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Try it.

Emma Royd Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:48:00 - [311] Thanks for that Sarrian, at least I don't get the error message any more :) Not sure about the chatlogs etc, but that will have to be discovered later :) It's not often I'm wrong, apart from the comments I make in the signature, and then I'm often wrong. On the other hand maybe I'm getting confused. ......My head hurts :(
Crux Australis Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:50:00 - [312] Quote: Drones do not always use their MWDs when returning to their home ship ORLY ! Originally by: Tuxford Sure play gallente and caldari if you like, just don't be upset when I waste your ass in a hurricane.
WillisCorto	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:50:00 - [313] Trying to login for 30 minutes now. Got the "Connecting" women a few dialog boxes and then it just sits there. Is it still copying/doing stuff or has it gone snafu ? I cleared cache before booting the client. No disc activity I can see, CPU at 20-30%
Steel Tigeress	Posted - 2007.06.20 06:58:00 - [314] Can we not only get the old advanced graphics options back so we can get more FPS.... Can we also get a toggle in the graphics tab for the new "space mist".... I feel fairly certain this is why I went from 60-70FPS in space befor the patch, down to ~32 FPS in space after.
Bambi	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:02:00 - [315] Invention jobs dont seem to see the decryptor. Maybe its just on Missiles, but it keeps on telling me I dont have a Caldari decryptor, but I do........
Lillybeth	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:07:00 - [316] The missile BPOs all list Gallente Encryption Methods for invention. Should this be racial depending on the drone type? LB
Marcus Tedric Gallente Tedric Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:08:00 - [317] Originally by: Sarrian Calda Originally by: Emma Royd I've just tried altering the shortcut and get the following popup error message. The name 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. Emma, you add the /end /LUA:OFF AFTER the quotes, not inside the quotes. It should look like this for you: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Try it. I just want to say - thank you. For the non-IT, but intelligent, players - you have just made something work that wasn't covered in the patch notes properly. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Please CCP - I love the game, but please take note how a simple well written, very short post can solve so many problems.
Maglorre	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:22:00 - [318] Originally by: Ladyah Liandri Originally by: Maglorre For everyone whining about the file locations changes, check out junctions Should be a solution for some. Not really if you're running a second EVE installation for Sisi. No, but combined with the other suggestions of setting the USERPROFILE env variable it might help Originally by: Ladyah Liandri The whole Documents & Settings stuff was a VERY bad idea in the first place. Furthermore it obviously hasn't been tested as carful as necessary. Personally I think it's the correct solution but not implemented well. Using the same idea but adding another level of structure for server/character would be ideal (which is what the above linked thread attempts to do.
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:23:00 - [319] Originally by: Sarrian Calda Originally by: Emma Royd I've just tried altering the shortcut and get the following popup error message. The name 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. Emma, you add the /end /LUA:OFF AFTER the quotes, not inside the quotes. It should look like this for you: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Try it. I really want this to work. I've tried all the ways mentioned. What is "Account 1" referring to? So far this way isn't working for me either :( ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:52:00 - [320] Without a space in the path to your eve client, the shortcut will look like this: With a space, it'll look like this: Hope this helps, and apologies for the inline images. Remove them if you must, but hey - it's my bandwidth... -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs

rodgerd Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:03:00 - [321] From an evemail I sent to my corp: Quote: If it seems like I'm ignoring you in corp chat, it's not cos I'm a rude bastard. It's because none of my chat windows work post-patch. I can type, but I can't see any conversations. Pretty self-explanatory. I know in the past chat text occassionally dissapears, and I know changing fonts size (for example) will make it re-appear. Not now - I simply see nothing in the body of any chat window. -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.
Sarrian Calda Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:07:00 - [322] Originally by: chrisreeves Originally by: Sarrian Calda Originally by: Emma Royd I've just tried altering the shortcut and get the following popup error message. The name 'C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF' specified in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct. Emma, you add the /end /LUA:OFF AFTER the quotes, not inside the quotes. It should look like this for you: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1\eve.exe" /end /LUA:OFF Try it. I really want this to work. I've tried all the ways mentioned. What is "Account 1" referring to? So far this way isn't working for me either :( Chris, that was just Emma's EVE installation folder name. The default install path is "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE". For Emma whom I believe to have multiple clients installed, he may have renamed the folder path to "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Account 1", "C:\...\EVE Account 2", so on and so forth for every account he may have. Nothing to worry about. Ignore that "Account 1" thingy. =) Just add the /end /LUA:OFF words at the end of the command line in your EVE shortcut as shown by Camilo Cienfuegos in the above post #321.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:08:00 - [323] Patch Feedback: -Clean install of patch (WINXP Pro SP2) -Lost overview settings (a pain but expected ) -The in-space GUI looks a LOT crisper image-wise. Nice job on that. One complaint: The activated-module indicator (pulsing green) now seems to blend in with the background a little bit too much. In other words its a bit tough to immediately confirm module activation. One clarification request: That neato little deadspace scanner included on all ships-this will NOT detect or cause false hits on actual exploration sites found only via probes? Cheers and ignore all the unconstructive boohoo "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
ChiangFa	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:11:00 - [324] I think I'm the only one having this problem... Anyway fter the patch the antialiasing setting wasn't anymore in my graphic option, and pasting "advanceDevices=1" in the pref.ini file won't work. I could set antialiasing on from my video card setting, but the result is worse.
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:13:00 - [325] I'm going to regret postign this, but... I just noticed the cheap 'Gypsy' KMB-25 implant I plugged in gives the same 3% CPU bonus as the more expensive KMB-50. The KMB-25 was probably meant to have the same 1% bonus as other 375 LP implants. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:13:00 - [326] Quote: I think I'm the only one having this problem... Anyway fter the patch the antialiasing setting wasn't anymore in my graphic option, and pasting "advanceDevices=1" in the pref.ini file won't work. I could set antialiasing on from my video card setting, but the result is worse. prefs.ini has been retired, no settings in it will work. I've put a copy into every possible eve folder (and I mean EVERY folder) and it doesn't pick up. What've you done, boys... -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Revan Crow Minmatar KraehenKlaue	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:15:00 - [327] hmmm.... so i go to the LP store, see some fancy +4 implants.... check the market worth and see 12mill isk each.... then i look at teh LP store table and see that i have to pay 12 mill isk and 15000 LP for each implant .... and the logic is ...where ?
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:17:00 - [328] If i right-click a blueprint to start a research job, the resulting window pops up in an inconvenient location, and does not remember its position if moved. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research
Ryuga VonRhaiden Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:22:00 - [329] hey, there was a "build-a-buzzard-for-free" offer from Kaalakiota agents @13k LP, now there isn't anything alike in LP store >.<'' gimme back my buzzard offer >.<''
DiNoer DFCK Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:36:00 - [330] Sounds are funkey... locking sound hangs up La prospTritT de l'Gme libre. La prospTritT de la fTdTration

mach18	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:38:00 - [331] Where's eve gone? I can't sign in.
mach18	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:40:00 - [332] OOps - better if you sign in to Tranquility :)
maya's alt	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:41:00 - [333] ooooohhhhhh... its sooo shiny....its like star trek but actually cool...
DiNoer DFCK Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:41:00 - [334] Edited by: DiNoer on 20/06/2007 08:40:19 double post ftl La prospTritT de l'Gme libre. La prospTritT de la fTdTration
mach18	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:49:00 - [335] Large Pulse Battery Laser on POS has activation proximity of 90kms, is that right?
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:49:00 - [336] Originally by: Revan Crow hmmm.... so i go to the LP store, see some fancy +4 implants.... check the market worth and see 12mill isk each.... then i look at teh LP store table and see that i have to pay 12 mill isk and 15000 LP for each implant .... and the logic is ...where ? Are you on glue sir? Where are you in EVE that +4's are 12m on the market? Domain, Heimatar, Verge, etc. The basic price is 22-25m. +3's are 12m, perhaps you're mistaken? We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Harper Ei	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:52:00 - [337] Hi Great patch. Minimum of errors detected and good content development. However! The hood has been redecorated, and there is in my perspective a major issue here. It has always been difficult to spot whether a module is on or not. It has now bevome plain impossible. The green aura blinking thing is simply to hard to see, especially while flying in bright nebula backgrounds, and it takes forever to get an overview if you have like 15 modules to check during combat! I would prefer a hard rock solid indication from a blue/red/green light on the rim of every module indicator! Please take action on this one! It is a major point of distraction and annoyance!
Elisa Day Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:56:00 - [338] Originally by: Bambi Invention jobs dont seem to see the decryptor. Maybe its just on Missiles, but it keeps on telling me I dont have a Caldari decryptor, but I do........ I had this problem on one lab but not on dozens of others, I repackaged it in station then it saw my decryptors fine. (On modules, not missiles though)
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:01:00 - [339] The new minor scan encounters for the onboard scanner really need to despawn shortly after they're done. I found 5 in the first 3 systems I checked, but 3 of them were empty and the other 2 were so lame it would be a better use of time to just hunt the belts, since the NPC's were the same as the local belt rats. But yeah finding tons of empty sites is annoying.
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:04:00 - [340] As reported here, missions are giving near-zero standing gains. Tired of Waiting? Use Empire Research

aidrianna	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:06:00 - [341] i dont know if any1 can help but i cant even get on 2 the login screen since the new patch was deployed, can any1 help me plz? Aidrianna
Raffzahn	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:07:00 - [342] Was it realy necersarry to move arround the folders on non-Vista systems? My setup is now realy screwed, and performance is visibly down.
Wild Xenria Gallente Space Locusts	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:09:00 - [343] Edited by: Wild Xenria on 20/06/2007 09:11:05 Mostly the patch is fine for me, and looks great. Had the lp problem earlier but it seems fine now. Only comment, lp store doesn't ask you if you're sure once you've hit accept. A friend was scrolling down and managed to get a +2 implant by mistake. We found a sort of "workround" by widening the lp store window so thee was a blank column between the scroll bar and the accept button. Practically everything in eve asks are you sure, do you really want to, please let lp store do the same. (Obviously with optional tick box to not ask again). Overall we love this patch :-D and seem to have had very few issues with it. Well done CCP. PS. In the thread pre-patch a dev listed the agents that were meant to get mechanical engineering. Could the same be done for lvl 5 agents? P.P.S. Seems we're hit by the no standing for missions bug too.
Mallick Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:10:00 - [344] Can't log in, after that bish saying connecting it just idles after "Acquring Bulk Data". Way to go..
DiveBlaster Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:11:00 - [345] So like i am running two accounts on the same computer will there be f---k ups with overwriting cache and other stuff? Is there a work around or... /Dive
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:16:00 - [346] Originally by: Miter 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. I used to be one of those. It also meant I had my documents folder on another drive since it doesn't contain OS files... Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
tchubbz	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:21:00 - [347] Apologies for not reading the 12 or so pages. A few things I've discovered ... (1) All that green around the modules! I really don't like the new halo effect when active. Coupled with the green (heat / overload?) bar on the top, it's making it really difficult to see which modules are active or not. I'm young(ish) with good eyesight, I dread to think what anyone with poor eyesight has to put up with. (2) I still seem to be able to select things easily which are situated behind the overview. (3) Speed indicator when warping or accelerating seems very jerky.
nolac Minmatar NovaeDyne Industries Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:28:00 - [348] Edited by: nolac on 20/06/2007 09:30:22 Apologies for not reading 12 pages or so. A few things I've discovered. (1) All that green! I'm finding it really hard to tell which modules are active and which aren't due to the new heat bar and the more halo'd effect. I'm young(ish) with good eyesight, I dread to think what people with poor eyesight are going through. (2) I still seem to be able to easily select things by accident behind the overview. (3) The speed indicator is very jerky when warping or accelerating. (4) I like the new view skills history button, but being somewhat on the slightly lazy side, I think a back to skills button (in the same place, bottom right) would be a nice touch, instead of scrolling top left to go back to skills.
Altronous	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:32:00 - [349] Edited by: Altronous on 20/06/2007 09:31:27 Issue with level 3 blockade mission against Angel Cartel. Getting graphics and sound of missile impacts occuring from ships which are not within range. These impacts do not cause damage and have noticed that they occur at the point the missiles disappear from space. These impacts also continue to occur during warp.
Aalekzander Da'rehl	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:49:00 - [350] Edited by: Aalekzander Da''rehl on 20/06/2007 09:49:15 I patched the game last night. Now i cant access the game without creating a new account. WTH is going on? Have you deleted my account?

Devious	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:56:00 - [351] C:\Documents and Settings\<User name>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE ...not the place which i originally thought eve mentioned as being here : C:\Documents and Settings\<User name>\Application Data\CCP\Eve perhaps some other people are finding this issue....once i copied the backup's to the new location my overview and windows worked find as before.
Necrocavus	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:57:00 - [352] Shortcuts for my drake's missiles aren't working. Just F1 is active.
Frygok Minmatar Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:57:00 - [353] The only thing I get is server status: Unknown. And then I get the connection failed pop up. What the heck is going on here?
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:57:00 - [354] A lot of *****ing, no praise. Let me say that I had no issues and mined for 6 hours after getting in with 3 charas and very little lag. Great job. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 09:59:00 - [355] Edited by: Tonto Auri on 20/06/2007 09:58:08 Originally by: Marine HK4861 For those of you who have lost their overview settings, this thread might be useful in starting to rebuild them: Overview Settings Guide Why You think that I'm an idiot? I NOT need to rebuild my EXISTING overview settings, I just NEED to GET THEM ALL BACK! -- .
Cyclops43	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:03:00 - [356] Originally by: nolac (1) All that green! I'm finding it really hard to tell which modules are active and which aren't due to the new heat bar and the more halo'd effect. I'm young(ish) with good eyesight, I dread to think what people with poor eyesight are going through. QFT!!! My eyesight is not all that great, and often if the background is the wrong color, I simply can't see whether a module is active or not.... CCP, please make them CLEARLY VISIBLE, and please test yourselves first on the different system backgrounds plus the cursed bright mission nebulas!!!
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:03:00 - [357] Originally by: Ommulus Now my 2. clients works again. It seems Eve stores some information about graphics modes at the server ??? I configured eve at my notebook (where the client worked)to 1024 *768 Set my gaming PC to this reolution too. And- it worked Now i had my 2. client accessable and could change it to working resolutions ... . Asketus/Pizzakiller Dig forums by keyword BackBufferWidth -- .
D Bogart Black Knight Buccaneers Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:04:00 - [358] Logged off prior to the patch in BKB logged into tranquility after the patch and found myself in a corp I haven't been in months.
Allicyn Wunderland Jonar Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:08:00 - [359] While I too have encountered some of the problems noted in this thread, I have to say that this patch really did seem to go smoother than some previous ones. I am especially happy about post-patch general overall performance. Many actions that previously took a bit of time to pull data down from the server are now quite a bit snappier. I'm sure CCP will get the new bugs ironed out over the next week or so - I'll gladly tolerate a couple weeks of bugs in exchange for a permanent performance boost. Nice job CCP!
Corn Meal	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:13:00 - [360] I can't claim my CNR Offer when i click the accecpt button nothing happens i have every thing thats req any one know why this isnt working ive been trying it for over 8 hours now no response from several petitions either....


CCP Chronotis	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:15:00 - [361] there is a bug with some LP store offers we are working on to resolve - please bug report any you find which cannot be completed.

Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:16:00 - [362] Originally by: Tonto Auri Edited by: Tonto Auri on 20/06/2007 09:58:08 Originally by: Marine HK4861 For those of you who have lost their overview settings, this thread might be useful in starting to rebuild them: Overview Settings Guide Why You think that I'm an idiot? I NOT need to rebuild my EXISTING overview settings, I just NEED to GET THEM ALL BACK! Unless you've backed them up somewhere the patch has overwritten prefs.ini and the Settings folder. This means all your overview settings are gone - they're stored in the CCP\EVE patch as .dat files now. You might be able to recover some minor things like the IGB list of blocked sites from your old cache folder though. This has happened in every major patch thus far. A little more civility and less hostility towards people who are only trying to help would be nice.
Kai'lya Phantom Regiment	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:26:00 - [363] I have two problems to report since Revelations 2 was deployed. I too have noticed that I am not getting any standing gain from agent missions run since the patch, as other players have already similarly reported. I've also been having some sound problems now. A lot of sounds aren't coming through, and some sounds will get stuck. For example,when I'm locking a target the locking sound will sometimes get stuck and keep playing endlessly after the target is already locked. Very annoying. Overall though I'd have to say this patch was a smashing success. It was virtually a painless experience, which is an improvement by leaps and bounds compared to some previous patch days. Good job, CCP.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:35:00 - [364] Originally by: chrisreeves Edited by: chrisreeves on 20/06/2007 04:36:47 Okay, I did a fresh install. I need the command line exactly how I should have it because it wasn't working when I did it earlier. btw, im using XP and I have two clients that I use and I want to keep the settings seperate. They really separate. By account for graphic and overview settings and by character for window positions and other options. Don't worry. -- .
Briani The Dotted Line	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:36:00 - [365] On the whole.. Nice work CCP ... but when are Ammatar Fleet going to have some ship bpc to give out? My work around for the multiple clients problem is the same one i used to enable 2 clients of Earth and Beyond to run all those years ago. I run Win XP pro and i don't know (and doubt) if this will work for any other versions of Windows... You will need at least 2 users set up on your windows install with the second passworded. Client 1... run as normal. Client 2... Right click the EvE icon. Select Run As... Check The Following User box Select Second User name Enter Password Hit OK The settings for the second client will be saved in Second Users My Documents folder. I'm sure there is a command line version of this but I can't remember what it is.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:38:00 - [366] Originally by: Draaken The default administrator account for XP (the one that can actually do everything) is always called Administrator as far as I'm aware. However, it doesn't show in the list of selectable users in XB-style login window. You might have to switch login style to classic, change user name to Administrator and leave the password field blank; not sure if that will work and I cba to read the entire feedback thread right now, just thought I'd throw this in for your consideration in case you still have the problem. No, root user name differend - it depends on installation language. And You not need to change login stile. Just press CAD on Welcome screen and You'll fall back to classic login dialog. -- .
Trishan Green Men Incorporated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:38:00 - [367] Originally by: Cyclops43 My eyesight is not all that great, and often if the background is the wrong color, I simply can't see whether a module is active or not.... EDIT: This is not really a new problem, but this change has made it even worse! CCP, please make them CLEARLY VISIBLE, and please test yourselves first on the different system backgrounds plus the cursed bright mission nebulas!!! Also remember to test with the tactical overview ON, since this'll brighten up everything BUT the buttons, making the problem even worse... [/quote Please do.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:41:00 - [368] Originally by: Marine HK4861 Originally by: Tonto Auri Edited by: Tonto Auri on 20/06/2007 09:58:08 Originally by: Marine HK4861 For those of you who have lost their overview settings, this thread might be useful in starting to rebuild them: Overview Settings Guide Why You think that I'm an idiot? I NOT need to rebuild my EXISTING overview settings, I just NEED to GET THEM ALL BACK! Unless you've backed them up somewhere the patch has overwritten prefs.ini and the Settings folder. This means all your overview settings are gone - they're stored in the CCP\EVE patch as .dat files now. You might be able to recover some minor things like the IGB list of blocked sites from your old cache folder though. This has happened in every major patch thus far. A little more civility and less hostility towards people who are only trying to help would be nice. I have backup, of course. Overview settings not depend on prefs.ini so I never back up it. There's just no really working settings. -- .
Barings	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:42:00 - [369] Intaki Space Police LP store has been neutered No more snake implants are available No faction ammo available No ship bpcs available No faction items at all available The Syndicate should have the same LP offers as Serpentis
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:45:00 - [370] I still cant login. Enter pw click connect "aquiring data....." nothing I logged in as admin as requested by the client earlier but it still doesn do anything. Ship lovers click here

Nikuno	Posted - 2007.06.20 10:59:00 - [371] All in all I like the changes I've seen, at least in principle. But a few things do seem to standout as silly. In the gallente navy LP store, I can now buy a 75mm Gal navy railgun. Very nice. But it costs 18,000 LP and a whopping 17,450,000 isk with the vaue of the tags taken into consideration. For comparison, a tech 2 75mm railgun costs 162,000 isk, and prototypes were selling for 1,100,000 isk. Don't you feel this makes the item pointless? Nobody can possibly buy these to trade, and the gain for combat is negligible or negative compared to the t2 or best named t1. If you look at a 250mm gal navy railgun the cost is 20,610,000isk and 24,000 LP. The 250mm prototype costs 1,900,000 isk, whilst the tech2 250mm railgun costs 2,800,000 isk. There isn't any good reason for anyone to ever take up these agent offers, so why even bother putting them into the game? Then there is the differential between each gun. A 350mm gal navy rail costs 21,050,000 isk and 30,000LP. Not much different to the 250mm really. Has nobody at CCP worked out these costings? The numbers seem to be out of touch entirely with the game market.
Batolemaeus Caldari Steel Beasts	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:01:00 - [372] Originally by: Briani You will need at least 2 users set up on your windows install with the second passworded. Client 1... run as normal. Client 2... Right click the EvE icon. Select Run As... Check The Following User box Select Second User name Enter Password Hit OK The settings for the second client will be saved in Second Users My Documents folder. I'm sure there is a command line version of this but I can't remember what it is. Its called runas. cmd --> runas /user:[new user] "C:\Program Files\EVE\EVE.exe" Then enter password. voila. Works with Accounts without a Password too. You can automatize this with a simple .bat file ;) (Or a shortcut) Btw. nice work, CCP, cant wait to get home from work and play around :)
Proper Charlie Gallente The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:02:00 - [373] Problem with POS guns. They have been moved outside the shield which is fine, however when I tried to offline them to move them around a bit they won't offline. I tried it with director access and the CEO tried it, they won't offline.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:02:00 - [374] I think I lost some LP... Not many, about 3-5k. -- .
Jeremiaz Gallente JezCorp	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:03:00 - [375] May have missed this somewhere, but is there any way to see how much LP I have with each corporation without having to dock at each corps station and opening the LP Store?
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:03:00 - [376] Ok, now it gets even better than before. Enter pw click connect client getting to work nothing happens 30s later pw disappears from its box start at enter pw I tried both the link and the original exe with and without the target change and its not working for me. Anyone knows a fix for this? Ship lovers click here
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:05:00 - [377] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: Briani You will need at least 2 users set up on your windows install with the second passworded. Client 1... run as normal. Client 2... Right click the EvE icon. Select Run As... Check The Following User box Select Second User name Enter Password Hit OK The settings for the second client will be saved in Second Users My Documents folder. I'm sure there is a command line version of this but I can't remember what it is. Its called runas. cmd --> runas /user:[new user] "C:\Program Files\EVE\EVE.exe" Then enter password. voila. Works with Accounts without a Password too. You can automatize this with a simple .bat file ;) (Or a shortcut) Btw. nice work, CCP, cant wait to get home from work and play around :) Don't forget to add /profile switch. Or just write a simple bat file and place it to each of You clients folder. (If You have XP Home You probably not have RunAs service). Quote: @echo off if "!%1" == "!" goto help SET HOME=%1 mkdir "%HOME%\Local Settings" > nul mkdir "%HOME%\Local Settings\Application Data" > nul SET USERPROFILE=%HOME% SET HOMEDRIVE=%HOME:~0,2% SET HOMEPATH=%HOME:~2% start "EVE" eve.exe exit :help echo. echo Use this .bat file to start different EVE clients. echo. echo Place it to EVE client folder. echo Give full path to server configuration root directory as first parameter. echo. echo Example: echo. echo %0 C:\Games\EVE\SiSi echo. pause exit -- .
Fallout BR Amarr Andromeda BR United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:26:00 - [378] I'm a new player, so even though I don't really understand all the changes in the patch, let me say one thing: great work CCP! If nothing else, the game is MUCH faster, at least for me! I run the game mostly at my workplace, with an old pentium 4, 384MB RAM and a Geforce 4 MX, but the game runs a LOT more smootly, specially in places with light effects, such as deadspace zones, and I also feel that wallet's information is a lot quicker too. So, thanks a lot CCP! But, I do have a complain... I am still on trial account, and lost 1 day, can I get it back :P? Anyway, good job I think!
Eight Bit Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:34:00 - [379] For me this is the smoothest major patch deployment so far. Grats on a job well done!!
Azriel Liege	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:34:00 - [380] Overall, seems to be a fairly smooth upgrade, it was quite novel to fly around in space with a ghost trying to lock me and missles impacting my ship, but found if I go to audio options and disable audio, then enable its fixed. Well, till the next time I'm locked and rocked by rats.

sdf2	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:36:00 - [381] Well Done CCP. The new release is a big improvement and looks very good.
OneSock Silentia Mortalis Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:36:00 - [382] CCP, I'm sorry but with the heat GUI I am really finding it hard to tell at a glance if a module is active or otherwise. The green colour was easy to spot, but now every mod is green. You actually have to look closely to see if it's flashing green. It's just not clear and in combat would be a nightmare. Can you please consider an urgent change to make the heat indicator blue (cool module) to red (hot module). Should be easy enough ?
at0micIV	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:40:00 - [383] When I start to warp (even when the ship doesn't move yet) I hear the noisy warp sound effect already, which seems to be a bug then. Another bug is that when I lock a ship and then it got destoyed, I still hear the lock sound.
Braaage Laborius Chapter	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:41:00 - [384] I've confused the hell out of the LP Store cos I have 2 agents in the same station. The L4 has about 26k LPs and the L2 not many, when I open the shop up everything is greyed out past about 2000.....
Ankanos Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:44:00 - [385] Well..fwiw, -in regards to overview settings, bookmark folders and settings in general in XP Pro. I had NO problems. my overview profiles survived the patch as well as all my other settings.. what worked for me: 1# i backed up my settings folder and my prefs.ini 2# i left the folder structure under \EVE\cache intact but deleted all files in them except for the settings folder. (obviously) 3# i downloaded the patch manually and of course ran the patch manually. 4# BEFORE starting the client i applied the switches as per CCP's instructions (/end /LUA:OFF) to my eve shortcut. so in MY case my shortcut looks like this: F:\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF 5# i clicked my eve icon and the client started up in the same manner it always has. 6# i'm a happy camper. :) Voila! -aside from the new switches, this is what i normally do for every patch. Hope this helps. ps: i only ran a few mission, bought some stuff off market and built a rig, but i must say.. for me, this is has been the most flawless patch CCP has put out in a while. even my logistic drones finally mwd'd back to my ship! woot! given the extent of this patch.. my hat is off to CCP for an overall outstanding patch deployment. many thanks CCP, -ankanos ---
Jeremiaz Gallente JezCorp	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:45:00 - [386] Originally by: Braaage I've confused the hell out of the LP Store cos I have 2 agents in the same station. The L4 has about 26k LPs and the L2 not many, when I open the shop up everything is greyed out past about 2000..... Have you checked the filter on the LP store? I found that it was automatically filtering out stuff that was well within my range because the filter was set to show only items costing no more than 2000lp.....removed the filter and hey presto!
Braaage Laborius Chapter	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:50:00 - [387] Originally by: Jeremiaz Originally by: Braaage I've confused the hell out of the LP Store cos I have 2 agents in the same station. The L4 has about 26k LPs and the L2 not many, when I open the shop up everything is greyed out past about 2000..... Have you checked the filter on the LP store? I found that it was automatically filtering out stuff that was well within my range because the filter was set to show only items costing no more than 2000lp.....removed the filter and hey presto! Yeh this was on the Show All listing I was looking on.
Mrs Brown	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:50:00 - [388] lo all, Logged in this morning, no problems at all :D Now I can't see any servers, "status unknown" ! Do they keep going down today or do I have a more severe problem ty o/
Superfobio	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:52:00 - [389] I beleive we are all getting the log in problem. :/
Jarek Davian Caldari RONA Midgard Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:52:00 - [390] Great job guys, you really pulled off a great patch! I unfortunately forgot to save my overview settings , but thats my fault. Keep up the good work and whip the dev-slaves into a hotfix frenzy ! If you can get all the little things sorted out by Saturday, I might even throw in a free case of bree or three .

Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.20 11:52:00 - [391] YAY! Now we can leave mother ships inside a pos and forget about them. Don't have to be worried of people bumping them out! phrase the lord! Caldari - BS idea
Gar Nomar	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:05:00 - [392] Originally by: Mrs Brown lo all, Logged in this morning, no problems at all :D Now I can't see any servers, "status unknown" ! Do they keep going down today or do I have a more severe problem ty o/ If the time of your post is GMT time, then they should be in their normal daily downtime. It's normally from 11-12 GMT, right?
Ladyah Liandri VMF-214 Blacksheep	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:08:00 - [393] Originally by: OneSock CCP, I'm sorry but with the heat GUI I am really finding it hard to tell at a glance if a module is active or otherwise. The green colour was easy to spot, but now every mod is green. You actually have to look closely to see if it's flashing green. It's just not clear and in combat would be a nightmare. Can you please consider an urgent change to make the heat indicator blue (cool module) to red (hot module). Should be easy enough ? <sarcasm> Since that would be a very logic and cool looking solution and a real GUI improvment we willl never see that happen. </sarcasm> I am a little angry about this because there were lots of threads long before patch day in the Game Dev Forum dealing with visual problems regarding modules (activation / deactivation / heat stuff and so forth). They have been ignored. Yet there was enough time to introduce a new speed indicator which noone asked for. That's not a matter of "adopt or die" folks. I already maxed out my eyeglasses thickness. And I leveled Advanced Eye Pinching to 5. So pretty please CCP ... give us old farts a break.
Hellspawn01 Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:15:00 - [394] Btw, Fan submission page is still broken. Ship lovers click here
Xaerek Lyran Procurement	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:20:00 - [395] Concerning a bug report response I received as it relates to changes in Revelations II, specifically: "Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs." I attempted to assume control of my POS turret in 0.5 space, since the risk of empire POS warfare has dramatically increased, and I am told that empire policy prohibits such an action. This seems problematic to me, considering my corporation may become a war target and I may be forced to defend my turrets which are not protected by the POS shield without the balancing mechanism of selecting my POS defenses' targets by assuming control. The response to the bug report is that it is an intended feature, and just as terse. I understand that taking practice shots at non-war targets causes problems with CONCORD intervention, but can't you prohibit a lock on such targets? Or allow CONCORD to retaliate by remotely taking the structure offline? Or permit CONCORD to enter the bubble since you're chartered anyway, and engage the turret controller? There are a number of ways to resolve the potential for abuse without denying the added functionality to balance unprotected targets.
Ziggy Stardustt SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:21:00 - [396] Originally by: Gar Nomar Originally by: Mrs Brown lo all, Logged in this morning, no problems at all :D Now I can't see any servers, "status unknown" ! Do they keep going down today or do I have a more severe problem ty o/ If the time of your post is GMT time, then they should be in their normal daily downtime. It's normally from 11-12 GMT, right? Damnit, still have a problem with BST
ManniXXX Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:23:00 - [397] Just a quick post to validate some of the other posts. My SFX are messed up, there is a delay of about 3 seconds on a gun firing for example and the sounds are very choppy. And I agree with the person(s) who said the GUI changes aren't too nice. The green heat bar makes it harder to see if a module is active or not, the vibrant green doesn't seem to be as vibrant anymore. Also, the speed bar indicator is laggy, but seems intentionally coded this way for some reason? I preferred the smooth pre patch version, but who wouldn't? It's less notable on battleships or anything slow but becomes very apparent on frigs. Other than that everything looks good so far for me. I'm loving the black colour scheme.
Braaage Laborius Chapter	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:34:00 - [398] I figured my LP problem :) all my isk is in the corp wallet LOL, no ISK no offer.
D3athsHead	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:37:00 - [399] the LP store offer of a Caldari Navy Raven for 600k lp and 1 Raven and 1 AZ-1 Nexus chip is broken. I have the raven and chip in my hanger and the offer is lit up but when i click accept nothing happens - no error message or anything - just sit hitting the accept button with nothing happening. Have tried at 6 different stations now still the same.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:50:00 - [400] Can I get a dev to comment on what changed with the IGB with this patch? There's nothing in the patch notes regarding it, however my site which previously worked in it with no problems no longer does at all, with no feedback to client as to why. Thanks! warp drive active \| nature vraie

amego Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:57:00 - [401] Originally by: D3athsHead the LP store offer of a Caldari Navy Raven for 600k lp and 1 Raven and 1 AZ-1 Nexus chip is broken. I have the raven and chip in my hanger and the offer is lit up but when i click accept nothing happens - no error message or anything - just sit hitting the accept button with nothing happening. Have tried at 6 different stations now still the same. I am having the same problem. I hoped todays downtime would have fixed it, but no joy.
jake gun	Posted - 2007.06.20 12:57:00 - [402] why is sisi not up yet and when will it be
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:08:00 - [403] And the connection issues still keep on rolling. I am not sure if this is patch related or not but there needs to be at least SOMETHING posted on this issue. I dont think i am the only one ready to up and quit after a solid week of not being able to connect to the game for significant lengths of time and periods where i cant even connect at all. I have recieved no packet loss running WinMTR to the specififed locations. Before you people go through with the so called standard methods. Cleared cache 3 times. Reinstalled twice the first time made sure i couldnt log in at all. I didnt even get to the character select screen. Anarchy Online another game with an overseas server has given me no problems at all able to stay connected as long as i want. I have called my ISP thinking someone there was messing around. No issues on their end. Please update us on this issue this isnt a small thing and its getting to the point we wonder why we pay for this game. I love Eve online. I dont want to be forced to look for another game because someone wont take the time to find out why people cant connect.
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:11:00 - [404] RE: Sound. Like many players, I usually have the sound off to help reduce lag. With the new patch and sound update, I was curious to hear the changes. I too can confirm problems with looping sounds, such as targeting and the woo woo woo sound when you drag/drop something. I've reverted back to playing with no sound. ---- Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
Lordes Aku	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:17:00 - [405] Edited by: Lordes Aku on 20/06/2007 13:18:32 Edited by: Lordes Aku on 20/06/2007 13:17:17 i get this error.....
Ziggy Stardustt SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:24:00 - [406] Still cant login, "status unknown" Tranquility server problems?
D3athsHead	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:27:00 - [407] 1 question:- Is their any way to see how many LP u have with each corp WITHOUT having to actually fly to each corps station and look at the LP store? I know b4 rev 2 u could see how many LP u had with your agent by just showing his info.
Zodiaq Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:31:00 - [408] Will ITEM DATABASE reflect changes? Or we have to again more than a year for update?
Hait	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:36:00 - [409] Anyone else's build times gone hinky? Swear that mine are now 3x what they used to be for ammo manufacturing.
dAmPiE	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:45:00 - [410] CCP thnx for the new patch but I really want to complain about the new scanner. I have tarined my skills for using the probes but now when I find something and I fly in someone is allready in there and found it with the scanner. Why did I train all the skills for using probes? I am gonna make a new disc to make a petition to CCP and hope they will change the onboard scanner.

Mallick Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:53:00 - [411] I can't log in!! Aqcuiring Bulk Data and NOTHING, ZIP, NADA!!
Dezzereth Two Swords Guild	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:56:00 - [412] ***** great CCP, Really, congrats on this major up. EVE is whining all the time that I need to execute EVE as Admin so I am able to complete the data Migration. BUT I IN DON'T HAVE AN ADMIN ACCOUNT SET (why the hell would I need one a damn one person play only computer anyways, ffs). And ofc, EVE won't startup. "Aquiring Bulk Data" is the last glorious message I get, then nothing. I have had it. That is it. I in cancel my in accounts. I went through this ** for 3 years and this is the final straw. Bye and suck me! And no, you can't have my stuff.
eleuthereus Gallente The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:58:00 - [413] Awesome patch, BTW, CCP. Woot! Just 3 suggestions now that seem to be popping up often from others in various threads. Both reagrding LP Store. 1. Create a "Are You Sure You Want To Make This Purchse" alert that pops up after a person hits the "ACCEPT" button for a LP Store Item. This would be similar to the mission denial alert and other alerts. It would protect against someone accidentally hitting "ACCEPT" and losing a whole lot of stuff, which in turn will cut down on your petitions. 2. Enable pilots to check out how many LPs they have accumulated at other corps (other than the station where they are docked) and also what those LP Stores offer (without needing to fly to those other stations). 3. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE -- allow us to window shop. In other words, even though we may not have ANY LP for a particular corp, allow us to still open up a LP Store window for that corp and see what we COULD buy IF we had LPs with that corp (also make this information available globally from any station). This way, we can see if we want to do missions for a particular corp. Otherwise we have no idea what offers are being made by a corp with which we have no LPs. thanks in advance. ________________________ "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is" (Whinston Churchill).
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 13:59:00 - [414] I got the message that I had to have administration rights. My PC runs XP pro and I am the administrator. When I eventually managed to patch the client and start up, it hung. I waited over 30 minutes which is long enough to copy the cache folder about 15 times before finally giving up. Every time I restarted the client, I got the message that a failed cleanup was experienced and the client hung every time. Even using the additional command line options had no effect. Only course of action now is a full re-install of Eve it now means I have lost all my settings. A migration percentage status bar during the cache migration process would have been nice so that we would have seen if it had actually hung or whether it was just being slow. --
Cerui Tarshiel Minmatar Fabulous Soulcatchers Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:00:00 - [415] Originally by: dAmPiE CCP thnx for the new patch but I really want to complain about the new scanner. I have tarined my skills for using the probes but now when I find something and I fly in someone is allready in there and found it with the scanner. Why did I train all the skills for using probes? I am gonna make a new disc to make a petition to CCP and hope they will change the onboard scanner. The onboard scanner can only find basic sites, you'll still need the exploration probes for the more advanced ones. I'm overall very happy with the patch (the client no longer nearly hangs my computer at the login screen) and the interface just seems alot crisper and clearer. However I encountered one potential bug, namely that I had a mission open since before the patch (might've something to do with it) and ganged a corpmmember before completing the mission and choose complete mission with gang members. Neither of us got loyalty points and the corp member didn't get any mission reward. I'll try to reproduce it and send bug report when I log back in.
agrajag119	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:09:00 - [416] Navy thron offer for 600k and an alpha chip does not work. The corp is chemal tech. I've tried it in multiple different stations, and with the thron packaged and unpackaged. I've been able to accept many smaller orders, but the navy mega offer has no response to the button click. I've also heard from some alliance mates they are having trouble with the exact same offer.
Razer Morphis Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:22:00 - [417] The "known issues" page is too big, compared to the needless features implemented. Priority should be bug fixing, but yet again, CCP adds new bugs without fixing all the old ones, and a patch that wasn't properly tested. Thumbs down. ----------------------
Wabby Bel Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:23:00 - [418] i still see complexes in the overview, for example youl... is that intended?
Effei Gloom Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:28:00 - [419] REV II done 3 skills gone ?!!! Starbase Tactical officer was replaced with Starbase Defense Managment Mobil refinery operation and Mobil factory operation removed? 2 skills missing but the old total number is still right? - next minnie Outpost bpc me:5 available in 25 days -
Brian Kith The White Star Consortium	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:42:00 - [420] A couple things from my perspective: Good things (tm): 1. Patching finished ahead of schedule. \o/ 2. No crashing / emergency rebooting / "showstoppers" Bad things (tm): 1. LAAAAAaaaaagggggggg. When warping into, the lag has grown tremendously from yesterday to today. I would dread PvP fleet ops with this. I'd likely be dead before the screen drew the first frame. 2. HUD Module colors. Seriously, I would like to know who thought it a good idea to use a VERY faint green pulsating glow to indicate an active module, and then stack a green band on top it so that it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to tell if your module is active or not. Can we just do a drastic color change when a module is active? Please? It's really quite horrible right now. God bless people who might be even slightly colorblind in green. 3. L5 Agent distribution. Ok, I realize they should be somewhat rare, but dear lord. I can't say what the other regions look like, only mine. I can't say what other corps look like, only my primary. There are exactly FOUR Level 5 agents for the Federation Navy . . . and EVERY SINGLE FREAKING ONE OF THEM is in Placid! Hello?!?!? Could we get ONE OR TWO in Solitude please? Something around Anckee or Vevelonel or Aeter would be lovely. Thanks.

Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:47:00 - [421] That new speed indicator is VERY ANNOYING! It's non-smooth movement always demand attention as it indicating a level of problem, breaking focus from real situation on battlefield. Can You please in the love of gods resolve this thing as fast as possible? -- .
Pir Shakur	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:48:00 - [422] Hi Guys! Nice job on the patch! Thanks for all of your hard work. The only issue I've run into so far is the targeting sound spins in an infinite loop (pretty consistently). Gotta run back to the base and open the cargo hold to get it to stop. Thanks again guys for some nice upgrades!
GusGorman Caldari Sub Orbital Sciences	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:52:00 - [423] Edited by: GusGorman on 20/06/2007 14:51:46 Edited by: GusGorman on 20/06/2007 14:51:04 Originally by: Pir Shakur The only issue I've run into so far is the targeting sound spins in an infinite loop (pretty consistently). Gotta run back to the base and open the cargo hold to get it to stop. you can also stop this by opening settings and clicking audio off and back on again saves flying anywhere
Threv Echandari Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:53:00 - [424] 1. Overview Targeting Issue- When Targeting a Rat (or player) the indicator in the overview Flashes and makes the Targeting Sound. Then it Shuts off and and no longer flashes. It looks like your are unable to target. after a few moments the Ship you targeted appears lockedon Screen and the over view is normal. So the Actual Target is happening but the visua;l and audible indicators Stop working before the lock is complete. 2. Sound. Sound (Guns/Missiles Firing is Breking up and Choppy (moreso than it used to be) I have not noticed any performance (lag) issues though just Sound quality. Threv That's life. Some people run X accounts. With a better PC. And a faster GFX card. And on a faster network connection. While their wife brings them beer. From the fridge on their yacht.
Karynn Carrion Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 14:57:00 - [425] I have not had any problems so far.I'm geting an extra 5-10 fps.Which is cool.Has anyone else noticed a rise?
Cyberman Mastermind	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:08:00 - [426] Originally by: Wabby Bel i still see complexes in the overview, for example youl... is that intended? Originally by: Patch Notes Static complexes from 3/10 to 10/10 difficulty have been removed from static locations. COSMOS complexes remain unaffected. Youl is 1/10, I think.
Hait	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:19:00 - [427] Opening and closing a wreck gives me a consistant 1 sec stutter every time. Salvaging even more tedious!
Mallick Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:21:00 - [428] STILL CAN'T LOG IN CCP!
Cassie MorMor	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:29:00 - [429] I have installed the patch and have an issue, I cannot connect to Tranquility or any other server, I log in and this comes up, "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong." Anyone have this issue or a solution to why this is? I uninstalled and reinstalled eve yet issue is yet to be solved...
Forkor	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:43:00 - [430] 3 hours for me and I still can't log on..it just hangs after connecting voice

Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:43:00 - [431] Yeah they know...i hope they get this fixed soon.
Jeremiaz Gallente JezCorp	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:44:00 - [432] Edited by: Jeremiaz on 20/06/2007 15:46:30 Again, may have already been mentioned, but clicking on Journal and then selecting Agents -> Research tab doesn't do anything....it just shows current missions (same info as in Missions tab), so I can no longer see how much RP I have with my research agents. Also, the Corporation window can't be resized vertically....well it can be made taller, but I can't reduce it's height, but I could do this before the Rev2 patch was applied.
Pierced Brosmen	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:47:00 - [433] Originally by: Cassie MorMor I have installed the patch and have an issue, I cannot connect to Tranquility or any other server, I log in and this comes up, "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong." Anyone have this issue or a solution to why this is? I uninstalled and reinstalled eve yet issue is yet to be solved... Do you have some sort of software firewall running on your comp.? When updating software, you often have to authorize the new version app. with the firewall before it gets any access to the internet.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 15:58:00 - [434] Edited by: Grimpak on 20/06/2007 15:59:11 I have a dreadfull issue with the new bombs. the graphical effect lacks KAPLAW! factor and OOOMPF-age. fixitplzkthx. edit: forgot to add a graphical help Originally by: Mud Pandemonium CCP Testing Explosion effects. What we got. What we want. thank you to Mud Pandemonium for the hard work in putting this together. --- truth about EVE: Originally by: Cpt Branko "Guns are fine, boost players"
Halada Caldari Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:05:00 - [435] Originally by: Riga Mortiss Bit of a panic attack here. but. ummm. being a resident in the "Drone Regions" the belt spawn has disappeared... ran a system that used to spawn regularly 5 times and only ran into one set of very low end drones. Since the majority of our isk comes from ratting, and we get no loot drops other than the alloys this is serious. Other than mining we're pretty much buggered. Was this intentional? Or an "oopsie" from the patch and if so will it get addressed asap? Thx.. Aye, same problem here ... drone regions, the rat spawns dont respawn ... just flew through all belts, and nothing to be spotted ... heaven for us miners though Click on my sig to read it !
Cassie MorMor	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:08:00 - [436] Edited by: Cassie MorMor on 20/06/2007 16:10:39 Originally by: Pierced Brosmen Originally by: Cassie MorMor I have installed the patch and have an issue, I cannot connect to Tranquility or any other server, I log in and this comes up, "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong." Anyone have this issue or a solution to why this is? I uninstalled and reinstalled eve yet issue is yet to be solved... Do you have some sort of software firewall running on your comp.? When updating software, you often have to authorize the new version app. with the firewall before it gets any access to the internet. No Windows firewall was off, I turned it on and added Play EVE to exceptions list yet it hasnt changed anything. After installing the patch I select Tranquility and status read "UNKNOWN" including the test servers. I know somethings corrupt but not sure what. Also when patch was applied and I clicked launch EVE Online, the program stopped responding so I closed it. I ran EVE client and status was UNKNOWN, I reinstalled EVE but that wasnt the program I guess...
zaqq	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:11:00 - [437] so.. is the game active or not, unable to log in since dt
Cassie MorMor	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:14:00 - [438] It would not log on to any account I attempt to log in with, it just comes up with the same message "Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong."
Cassie MorMor	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:17:00 - [439] LOL Dont worry guys I got it working, I forgot that my Zone Alarm was default firewall and a while ago I disabled it. Thank you guys for your help anyways :)
Shao Lyn	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:43:00 - [440] No idea if this has been mentioned, not going through 15 pages... Log off at POS still puts you in emergency warp...

Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:43:00 - [441] Originally by: Cyclops43 Edited by: Cyclops43 on 20/06/2007 10:05:46 Originally by: nolac (1) All that green! I'm finding it really hard to tell which modules are active and which aren't due to the new heat bar and the more halo'd effect. I'm young(ish) with good eyesight, I dread to think what people with poor eyesight are going through. QFT!!! My eyesight is not all that great, and often if the background is the wrong color, I simply can't see whether a module is active or not.... EDIT: This is not really a new problem, but this change has made it even worse! CCP, please make them CLEARLY VISIBLE, and please test yourselves first on the different system backgrounds plus the cursed bright mission nebulas!!! Also remember to test with the tactical overview ON, since this'll brighten up everything BUT the buttons, making the problem even worse... QFT Like Cyclops43, my eyesight is not as good as it was 20 years ago, and as Eve seems to have an "Older" (or is it more mature) player base, weaker eyes may be the rule of thumb. When I am running most missions I am not able to tell which modules are active, and which are not, the mouse-over tool tip will say, but that is a lot slower to respond. IMO, if the center of the module button switched to Green for Active, Red for deactivating, and grey for inactive it would be so much easier to tell then the current "Foggy Glow" around the outside. Other then that, LP Store is Awesome (even if bugged), I love that I can share LP and standing with Gang mates... all in all, good patch. None of us is as dumb as all of us...
Hermes Massai Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:43:00 - [442] How are we supposed to find the new dynamic plexes with all the regular encounters showing up on the multispectral probe as "Unknown"? It's a bit annoying to say the least...
Tahmael Shaido Minmatar Galactic Trade Federation	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:49:00 - [443] Patch did not check to see if I was logged in as administrator so patch failed. My C: drive was nearly full anyway, which is where Vista wants to put it's data files. That is why I am not running Vista. I'm happy to hear CCP is now compliant with Microsoft. I hope they can pick up the slack and pay you more than I do. I'm outta here. Can't log in, can't patch. --- After things go from bad to worse, the cycle will repeat itself.
Astral Fox	Posted - 2007.06.20 16:54:00 - [444] Nice work getting this up & running ahead of schedule guys - must have been a real busy night for you. Logged on & downloaded 1st thing this morning with no issues - logging on for me now is much faster. Only issues I have encountered so far are: 1) both my Contracts & my Salvager icons (fitted & unfitted) have a thick, bright, yellow stripe running thru them - looks REALLY nasty. 2) all my overview settings have disappeared - kind of annoying but not the end of the world. 3) Asteroids have got the same 'clock' icon in overview as the advertising boards at gates - minor cosmetic but irritating all the same... 4) Your known issues page is still pointing to Revelations 1.4.2 issues so I can't tell if you know about all this stuff already. No show-stoppers so far tho' - big thanx! Astral.
Sarrian Calda Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:03:00 - [445] PLUS: The contact zone for acceleration gate is doubled i think. From what used to be the old activation range at 2.5km, now it's 5km from the actual object. So if u fly to wat used to be the 2.5km range from accel gates, it's 0m in the overview. Now you don't hafta fly all the way to the gate to activate it. No more clutters in gangs. I can even activate the gate from the other end of the accel gate, which cannot be done before ever since I started playing EVE. This is good MINUS: The status bar where it'll show when you get jammed/target painted/disrupted overlaps the ShipUI Readouts. I can't see how's jamming or disrupting me. And I can't see my shields/armor when i get jammed/disrupted. The bar used to be above the readouts. Why shift it down?
Riendar II	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:05:00 - [446] I haven't seen any comment in this thread about corporation standing not increasing with missions. I ran into people in the game with that problem (I have it too), but I didn't see it here. Originally by: Miter So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. I have to agree. The decision is really dumb, and completely pointless. Does any gamer actually give a $&#%^ about microsoft certifications? But it wasn't automatically disasterous, and thus could only be deserving of a beating behind the shed. The implementation, however, utterly sucked. Settings getting lost all over the place should not happen. For that, someone in development and decision making should be really told they blew it, like getting sent home permanently.
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:06:00 - [447] Since my game always reset EVErYTHING each time I jumped,docked or started the game. I tried to reinstall... Well atleast I uninstalled. I clock "EvE_Setup" now and all it ever does is hang, wtf? Wasn't this supposed to be MORE compatible with vista ? The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Zeraina	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:17:00 - [448] i have 300k rp with my 6 rd agents yet when i went to have a look at this shop for rp's it said i had only 15k surely thats wrong
Jelvan	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:18:00 - [449] Congrats CCP on a good roll out! My only major gripe is that there still seems to be lots of stuttering in the UI. Releasing/returning drones is much better than before but everything else seems worse. I'm a relatively new player to EVE and have played a few other MMO's and this issue is my only real complaint about the game. Having elements of the UI cause stutter during game play can be so frustrating at times. I can appreciate the complexity of the problem but the other MMO games I have played do not have this issue. Please allocate some development time to fixing it!
Forkor	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:26:00 - [450] still not able to log in... 5 hours since connecting voice.... come on ccp ..

Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:28:00 - [451] Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/06/2007 17:30:49 Don't know, if it has been said already, but I think overload activation via mouseclick needs a change, especially since the 'button' is close to the area that just activates the module or the modules that are next to it. So for mouse users, I'd suggest that it can be configured in a way that we can use something like alt+left_mouse or alt+ctrl+left_mouse or such key combinations to overload. It would be really cool. Normal module activation with a mouse-click, overloading with one or two extra keys pressed, while mouse-clicking. In my eyes more elegant and even fail-safe under lag condition or when everything is running choppy due to low FPS. You wouldn't need an extra button-area to overload, just click on the module with that extra key pressed.
Erialor Godsent Gallente Conisor Excavations Syndicate Antagonistic Assembly	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:30:00 - [452] Was mission-running seriously nerfed here, or some bug slided in? Pre-patch I did Gone Berserk at my mission-pusher and it got me a good 2% standing increase (lvl 3) Now the same mission from same agent yields around 0.5% :( Quite a few others in this thread with the same problem
Obed Imperial Logistics	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:34:00 - [453] I've not read the thread so apologies if somebody has already mentioned this ,but the link to the rev II video on the front page of www.eve-online.com is broken. Cheers ----- I have one account and zero alts.
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:36:00 - [454] Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 19/06/2007 23:58:44 'Insufficient privileges ... Please run EVE with administrator rights to complete data migration' If your documents and settings folder resides on a FAT32 partition, you get this popup window although you are starting EVE on an administrator account. No FAT32 partitions anywhere near this machine, however.... my client is installed on a seperate drive which is mounted onto C:\Games. It's possible that having a volume that isn't rooted with the archaic 1985 notion of a drive letter might confuse something, somewhere.... In any case, I can't play. Attempting to log in results in it just sitting there (using the /LUA switch or not), and a second click on connect tells me my local client session information is corrupt. A little quote for the devs: The road to Hell is paved with good intentions, but littered with assumptions.
Swift Voyager	Posted - 2007.06.20 17:51:00 - [455] 2nd or third wave in two of the rogue drone encounters in gallente high sec displayed an npc message in chat channels but it displayed in ascii or binary. however i really like the new system scanner, and all the other changes too.
Arkalisk	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:02:00 - [456] Dont know if it has been mentioned already but im not getting a mail when a skill has completed. Ark.
Chruker	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:08:00 - [457] Originally by: Zeraina i have 300k rp with my 6 rd agents yet when i went to have a look at this shop for rp's it said i had only 15k surely thats wrong There is no shop for RPs. The shop is for LP (loyalty points) which are given by agents for running missions. RPs (research points) can only be used for buying datacores atm. ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Updated data export - Speedup IGB table rendering
gargars	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:12:00 - [458] Originally by: Arkalisk Dont know if it has been mentioned already but im not getting a mail when a skill has completed. Ark. I think I read in the information about the upgrade that they were not going to evemail a person when a skill was done any longer. Not sure why - probably too much overhead.
Midou Li	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:16:00 - [459] Originally by: Forkor still not able to log in... 5 hours since connecting voice.... come on ccp .. Same, 8:14pm in Bavaria, Germany. and Server status: Unknown and not allowing me to log in. Did the server crash from teh overload I wonder?
Xeron Silverblade Esthar Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:16:00 - [460] Originally by: gargars Originally by: Arkalisk Dont know if it has been mentioned already but im not getting a mail when a skill has completed. Ark. I think I read in the information about the upgrade that they were not going to evemail a person when a skill was done any longer. Not sure why - probably too much overhead. its been replaced by "skill history". scroll down on your skill list. there you can look up which skill completed last (and those before).. imho the mails were annoying anyway. especially when you have to train an bunch of skills to 1 or 2 it only produced pam in your mailbox ;-)

Roland San	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:18:00 - [461] Not sure if this has been mentioned: Pre-patch, I was happily getting an positive increase in standing with both my agent and his corp. Post-patch, the first mission I did resulted in a 0.0001% increase, and the subsequent 3 missions all clocked in at 0.0%. A day before the patch, Silence the Informant gave me 5.something%. Tonight, I got 0.0%. Some people I asked in local said they were getting their standings. Not entirely sure what's wrong, but is this something that's petitionable? Thx.
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:20:00 - [462] Edited by: Hockston Axe on 20/06/2007 18:20:36 The speed indicatior is either broken or if intential you need to re-evaluate your intentions. If you hold the mouse over the max speed button, it no longer shows your current speed, even in warp. This is a horrible and completely pointless change. There is now no way to tell how fast your ship warps, and since there is no stat in show info on a ships warp speed, you can never tell how fast a particular ship is now, other than knowing from before when the speed indicator actually worked. How are you supposed to even know if the warp speed rigs you've just fitted are even doing anything now? Fix it, and not in Kali VI either, sooner than soon, i.e. now. Heat UI, sucks. That is all. Some people (i.e. many many people) like to know at a glance what mods are active. That was hard to do before, and is nearly impossible now. Do you guys play wearing 3-D glasses to make the Green jump out? Moving the cache to My Documents is the dumbest idea ever, ever. This isn't minesweeper. So now you've got to be an IT inclined person to use SISI eh, since they'll try to overwrite each others settings on default values. That'll really help your testing efforts. By a miracle my overview settings were not lost, probably because I switched off the pointless and stupid move, and deleted the SISI settings from My Docs before installing. This is one of the most performance stable major patches I've seen, and the most feature broken I've seen at the same time.
Xeron Silverblade Esthar Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:22:00 - [463] Originally by: Roland San Not sure if this has been mentioned: Pre-patch, I was happily getting an positive increase in standing with both my agent and his corp. Post-patch, the first mission I did resulted in a 0.0001% increase, and the subsequent 3 missions all clocked in at 0.0%. A day before the patch, Silence the Informant gave me 5.something%. Tonight, I got 0.0%. Some people I asked in local said they were getting their standings. Not entirely sure what's wrong, but is this something that's petitionable? Thx. read here: Linkage they are aware and are about to fix it..
Roland San	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:23:00 - [464] Originally by: Xeron Silverblade Originally by: Roland San Not sure if this has been mentioned: Pre-patch, I was happily getting an positive increase in standing with both my agent and his corp. Post-patch, the first mission I did resulted in a 0.0001% increase, and the subsequent 3 missions all clocked in at 0.0%. A day before the patch, Silence the Informant gave me 5.something%. Tonight, I got 0.0%. Some people I asked in local said they were getting their standings. Not entirely sure what's wrong, but is this something that's petitionable? Thx. read here: Linkage they are aware and are about to fix it.. Thx :)
Akakitou	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:26:00 - [465] Same problem as some of you for Pre-built faction BS offer. when clicking accept, nothing happens, when accepting another lower offer, it works.
Inspiration	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:27:00 - [466] I only played a bit so far, found two issues: 1: One station where I refine, does not take my standing properly into account. It does display it, but it has no effect on how much the NPC corp takes from me (other stations from the same NPC corp worked fine so far). For me this is a serious issue, having to haul ore or take a 5% mineral amount hit.....not funny! 2: The ore scanner results window, resets (forgets sort order) when a roid pops. Quite annoying and RSI inducing for those that activly mine (not me, hehe).
ingineer	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:29:00 - [467] ... im still cant get in to the game. I hit "connect"... then it looks like im geting in, loading bar disappearing, AND, nothing happend! i have been waiting 3h, still nothing. wonder if someone had same issue?
Midou Li	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:41:00 - [468] Originally by: ingineer ... im still cant get in to the game. I hit "connect"... then it looks like im geting in, loading bar disappearing, AND, nothing happend! i have been waiting 3h, still nothing. wonder if someone had same issue? Not having the same issue, but I'd say eve is down due to the fact that I can't log and a friend in another continent also can't log atm
Rakshasa Taisab	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:43:00 - [469] I did three lvl3 agent missions for Caldari Navy, yet my standing with them stayed the same, at 5.52. Before the patch it increased 0.06 points for every lvl3 missions. Tried re-logging but didn't help. Didn't seen anything in the patch notes about updates now being delayed or anything.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:44:00 - [470] Originally by: Zeraina i have 300k rp with my 6 rd agents yet when i went to have a look at this shop for rp's it said i had only 15k surely thats wrong Yes, but in other way. You mess with RP/LP things. Theres an LP, not RP shop. So all seems fine, You have 300k RP and only 15k LP. -- .

Zingu Crafty Productions	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:45:00 - [471] Did you guys dissable some of the double byte charachters? I can still use some of them but others just gives me squares. Not game breaking or anything but a bit annoying none the less.
Galya Tuvern Gallente Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:46:00 - [472] Originally by: TeaDaze Originally by: Miter Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you. Signed. Please for the love of <insert deity> give us a configuration option for where the game saves data. The My Documents folder is for My Documents, not for random game files. Game settings should stay with in the game folder so that if it is moved to another machine / HD / etc it still works. Just another paying customer who is sick and tired of program settings under windows being spread between registry, profile, application data within the profile, my documents, my games and program directories... OMFG /signed /signed and /signed again I can provide the leather strap if you need one Don't ask me I'm not the keeper of the Mommy Milk!
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:55:00 - [473] Originally by: Galya Tuvern Originally by: TeaDaze Originally by: Miter Forcing gaming data onto the C: drive messes up 3 classes of your players: 1) People who wish to keep only OS files on drive C and keep all data on another drive. 2) People who run more than one account from their machine, which will now apparently write to the same files, mixing things up, with unknown results if two clients running at once write to the same file. 3) People who try to keep the cache directory on a RAM disk for extra speed. So, please, take the person who made the decision to comply with some stupid Microsoft guidelines out behind the shed and beat them with a leather strap. Then, give us the option of keeping all data where it previously lived -- the /LUA:OFF switch as I understand it only keeps the Settings in the original place, not the rest of the cached data. Thank you. Signed. Please for the love of <insert deity> give us a configuration option for where the game saves data. The My Documents folder is for My Documents, not for random game files. Game settings should stay with in the game folder so that if it is moved to another machine / HD / etc it still works. Just another paying customer who is sick and tired of program settings under windows being spread between registry, profile, application data within the profile, my documents, my games and program directories... OMFG /signed /signed and /signed again I can provide the leather strap if you need one Login under Administrator. Move all Your user profile to, say, disk D. Link You user profile from D back to Docs&Setts. Et voila, problem solved. -- .
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.20 18:59:00 - [474] The "/end /LUA:OFF" fix is not working for me. If I included it within the quotation marks of the shortcut it says "invalid target." If I put it after the quotation marks close in the shortcut the shortcut will appear to work, but it just hangs are the splash screen and then quits. Help would be appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------
Forkor	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:06:00 - [475] 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp
Niatha l'Reine	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:07:00 - [476] Don't know if it has been mentioned, but when I'm being targeted, in most cases I have a lag/hang for 1 to 15 seconds. Was killed today in N-RAEL by a few rifters, which was just locking me, unlocking, and locking again...which leaded to non-stop lag. No hard feeling, just fix this. It's damn annoying. Also experiencing 0,5-1,5 seconds lag when opening a wreck. Before path there wasn't such a lag.
Meyesta Gallente The Pretty Things	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:08:00 - [477] Anchored a POS lab and am unable to install any jobs in it from my corp hangers.. I'm the CEO and have all roles. I have tried taking the BPO to the pos and installing it there and it still fails (throws a nasty exception which I have added to the petition).. I'm unable to configure any of the options in the Manage Assembylines (I can set them but I return to the screen and they are unset) .. I checked the roles on the hangers themselves via Starbase management and they are all set correct as far as I know.
Viktor VonCarstein Amarr Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:15:00 - [478] Relatively smooth patch 100% improvement on Red Moon Rising grats and thanks CCP Very laggy when jumping through stargates and switching ships or fitting them in station. Looping sounds occur when selecting items or clicking and dragging when in station. http://hell-raisers.xippy.co.uk
Brainpd	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:26:00 - [479] Hi, Just trained thermodynamics to lvl1 and I do not get a mail or other notification that my skill is done, just the character button lighting up.
Midou Li	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:29:00 - [480] Originally by: Forkor 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp Indeed. I've been looking foreward to getting onto the new Revelations II all day at work, and coming home not able to play is teh major suxorz

Keira Fordring Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:31:00 - [481] Changing overview presets causes the columns to resize. After sizing my overview columns so all 4 of them are visilbe without having to stretch the Overview across 50% of my screen, they all resize if I select a different preset. If you move from a preset that for example only shows gates to one that shows ships, the columns will resize to fit the longest ship name which expands anything to the right of it off of the visible portion of the overview.
Shimizu Takumi	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:31:00 - [482] Originally by: Brainpd Hi, Just trained thermodynamics to lvl1 and I do not get a mail or other notification that my skill is done, just the character button lighting up. Look in your character sheet there is a skill history button
Rinaldo Titano Caldari Domus Fatalis FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:33:00 - [483] Drone region is broken again!!!!!!! in 5h got 1 spawn in a 14 belt system. And even that was gone in 10 min. U was not planed incrase commander spawns(not in drone region, because we dont have even thats)? But now it seems that u dramatically decrased drone spawns. Pls fix ASAP. so is no profit and no pvp without isk. and thats not fun!!!!!!!!! http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9741/rinaldo2ir8.jpg
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:39:00 - [484] Originally by: Shimizu Takumi Originally by: Brainpd Hi, Just trained thermodynamics to lvl1 and I do not get a mail or other notification that my skill is done, just the character button lighting up. Look in your character sheet there is a skill history button Yes, a bad change, as the clear background when the skill is completed isn't to easy to see. Having the skill and the mail highlighted was way better. And the new black background don't help too.
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:48:00 - [485] Originally by: Winterblink Can I get a dev to comment on what changed with the IGB with this patch? There's nothing in the patch notes regarding it, however my site which previously worked in it with no problems no longer does at all, with no feedback to client as to why. Thanks! Not exactly a pressing issue, Winterblink. I'm sure all two of your readers are very upset. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Imuran	Posted - 2007.06.20 19:52:00 - [486] Heavy Armor Maintenance Bots II BPC dont show the T2 triangle on them
Gimreaper	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:07:00 - [487] rodue drone region roid belts roids are 20KM apart from eachoter and warping point is nout 50km away from the roids also no drone spawns show up in the belt
More money Erasers inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:12:00 - [488] I have problem with my overview. I cant get my wrecks or cans show in the overview. Some of my corpies have same problem.
Tyler Tharn	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:15:00 - [489] Edited by: Tyler Tharn on 20/06/2007 20:14:24 Every time I start up Eve, exit a station, enter a station, jump systems, or switch ships, my windows resize to default, the tutorial pops up, and my left sidebar expands. What is going on? Oh, and when I change the settings in the Escape menu, once I close the window the settings return to default. And I lose my waypoints and the autopilot turns off.
Viktor VonCarstein Amarr Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:16:00 - [490] Massive lag in level 4 mission Damsel in Distress in Sehmosh system. Turned off the sound fixed the problem. http://hell-raisers.xippy.co.uk

SirMolly	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:19:00 - [491] Originally by: Midou Li Originally by: Forkor 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp Indeed. I've been looking foreward to getting onto the new Revelations II all day at work, and coming home not able to play is teh major suxorz how about you check your firewall instead of constantly complaining like a ******.
Dei Amarr Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:23:00 - [492] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Winterblink Can I get a dev to comment on what changed with the IGB with this patch? There's nothing in the patch notes regarding it, however my site which previously worked in it with no problems no longer does at all, with no feedback to client as to why. Thanks! Not exactly a pressing issue, Winterblink. I'm sure all two of your readers are very upset. Neat, who's the other reader? On a separate issue, my pre-existing buy orders from Rev 1 are not letting me change them coming up with "Info You would need 1,701.00 ISK to complete this operation, while you only have 100,765.87 ISK." Which sucks, don't know if there's a way to fix that. --- The true master paralyses his opponent, leaving him vulnerable to attack
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:29:00 - [493] Originally by: SirMolly Originally by: Midou Li Originally by: Forkor 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp Indeed. I've been looking foreward to getting onto the new Revelations II all day at work, and coming home not able to play is teh major suxorz how about you check your firewall instead of constantly complaining like a ******. .....Honestly i am getting tired of these BS Responses. There are many players who have not been able to connect at all or stay connected for over a week now when we had zero connection problems before hand. I have exhausted all possiblities at my disposal ISP calls and rants, disabling of all firewalls, (about as stupid as it gets) power cycles, reinstallations, cache clearings, renewal of DNS, the whole damned list. Worst of all since Rev 2 hype got spun up: THERE HAS BEEN NO FOLLOWUP BLOG WITH ANY INFORMATION ON THIS ISSUE. I at this point will settle for just some kind of CLUE as to what is causing this. I paid for 90 days. If this issue isnt somehow fixed soon i wont be renewing this i couldnt. WinMTR shows a completely clear route with no packet loss to Tranquililty and Singularity i should by all rights be logging in with no issues and not having any of these problems. There is a glitch in the client i think in specific systems but i have no way of being sure. After a downtime it allowed me to log back in again but i still had the near constant disconnections. I dont know if that will be the case here or not. But i am at my wits end on this issue and i dont think i am the only one. Dont go and smash people who actually have a friggin problem here because there is a real one and its not going anywhere. I am thankful i have other games to play but the majority of the game time i do get goes to EVE. RL issues have helped keep me busy but i like the friends i have made a hell of a lot and i dont want to stop playing. Please CCP give us SOMETHING NEW on this situation. Thanks.
SirMolly	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:32:00 - [494] Originally by: Kuseka Adama blablabla There is no "situation" cause i see 30k ppl that are logged in atm....i guess they must be doing somehting right lol.
Wadaya Caldari Trailerpark Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:33:00 - [495] I have a problem with my personal wallet. When I sell to market, my income goes up inside the wallet, but the icon on the left panel does not update. This somehow affects buying items from the LP Store, because it thinks I don't have the required funds. Logging off/on resolves this, but it is quite annoying. Anyone else having this problem? Wad
Midou Li	Posted - 2007.06.20 20:56:00 - [496] Originally by: SirMolly Originally by: Midou Li Originally by: Forkor 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp Indeed. I've been looking foreward to getting onto the new Revelations II all day at work, and coming home not able to play is teh major suxorz how about you check your firewall instead of constantly complaining like a ******. How about you stop making assumptions about what I have and Haven't done. Unless you are stalking me(or any user for that matter) a la sitting outside in a tree with binoculars you Have no idea what I have and have'nt done to attempt to solve this issue(which btw has been a fresh instal/repatch, many restarts, firewall check, ISP check, along with browsing the forum and trying a plethora of other fixes suggested by other players)
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:04:00 - [497] Currently, with about 30,000 players logged in, logging in is impossible. The client comes up, I can login, select character, and then the character selection growbar comes up, goes to the end, and never logs me in. Been waiting like 5 minutes- second attempt.
Forkor	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:06:00 - [498] hey miss molly go back to you nest...we do have problems
Pelf Matagraph	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:09:00 - [499] Originally by: Pelf Matagraph Currently, with about 30,000 players logged in, logging in is impossible. The client comes up, I can login, select character, and then the character selection growbar comes up, goes to the end, and never logs me in. Been waiting like 5 minutes- second attempt. Note this problem is specific to one of my characters.
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:09:00 - [500] Originally by: SirMolly Originally by: Midou Li Originally by: Forkor 7 hours not being able to log in...sucks ccp Indeed. I've been looking foreward to getting onto the new Revelations II all day at work, and coming home not able to play is teh major suxorz how about you check your firewall instead of constantly complaining like a ******. Soooo, what has changed in the EVE client that requires additional or different network access than it did before the patch? And if anything, why wasn't it included in the patch notes? It doesn't really make much sense to think that someone who's been playing EVE would just happen to have problems right after a major patch AND that it would be due to changes they made to their own firewall.

Old Barky	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:16:00 - [501] Minmatar Encryption required to do invention on a torp bpc Pls let it be a bug.....
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:18:00 - [502] Posting here about the resetting of EVERYTHING again. Also adding this :::::: :::::::: MY little compilation to make it easier for people to whom this is interesting. Thank you The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:20:00 - [503] Originally by: Tyler Tharn Edited by: Tyler Tharn on 20/06/2007 20:14:24 Every time I start up Eve, exit a station, enter a station, jump systems, or switch ships, my windows resize to default, the tutorial pops up, and my left sidebar expands. What is going on? Oh, and when I change the settings in the Escape menu, once I close the window the settings return to default. And I lose my waypoints and the autopilot turns off. Same as me then, see my earlier post where I added a lil link to make it easier Linkage The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Kimo Sabi	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:28:00 - [504] Edited by: Kimo Sabi on 20/06/2007 21:32:58 Have to say Whoah! It looks excellent and I'm very pleased with what I've seen so far I patched all three of the clients I use (I only have one account, but depending on where I am, I have several PC's that I might use) To all those complaining about the move of the capture out of the game directory - I think this is an excellent move. on my main gamin rig, I have a system drive (actually a partition on a striped RAID array I use, for nice speed) and an everything else drive. My EVE install is on the everything else drive and I found it tedious to go from the default my docs folder that gets opened when I hit Windows Key + E, down the drive, folder, captures, etc, etc, move the file to my pictures folder, change name, upload, blah blah! I don't have an issue, because I have moved "My Documents" and all profiles (in fact the whole "Documents and Settings" folder) to my D Drive (and pointed XP at them as well, not a sign of any user data on my system drive ever Only managed to get online tonight (I can't play when I'm working ) but no problems whatsoever. One minor bug I did discover when refitting my miner, this has been bug reported, as I'd consider it something of a minor exploit EDIT: But it wouldn't let me undock with the ship setup like it was!
Zwotte Dark Reality	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:29:00 - [505] Hi All missions i did, didn't gave me a standing increase. In the "show transaction" on the corperation info all its says 0.0% standing increase for all my missions after patch. Multiple buddies of mine expierenced the same. I bug reported it and will stop missionrunning for now cause i need standing and not isk. Hope it will sorted out soon. Ciao, Zwotte Dark Reality Carrier Sales
Hockston Axe Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:32:00 - [506] Originally by: Xeron Silverblade Originally by: gargars Originally by: Arkalisk Dont know if it has been mentioned already but im not getting a mail when a skill has completed. Ark. I think I read in the information about the upgrade that they were not going to evemail a person when a skill was done any longer. Not sure why - probably too much overhead. its been replaced by "skill history". scroll down on your skill list. there you can look up which skill completed last (and those before).. imho the mails were annoying anyway. especially when you have to train an bunch of skills to 1 or 2 it only produced pam in your mailbox ;-) I don't like it much, because I always kept all my lvl 5 completion mails. You can just delete them if you don't want them after all. But whatever, now I've just got to search a list to see my lvl 5's. Now a complete (from birth, with completion dates) and filterable (by lvl and category) skill history list would be cool.
Ocspa Enamel	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:37:00 - [507] hmmm...after 17 pages of posts I have no clue if this his been brought up, so my apologies. Cannot store a carrier in a ship array at a POS: "There is not enough space to add those charges. There is only 0.000000 units of space, but the charges require 1395000.000000 units." Now....no cans in the carrier, no ships in the carriers maint array, and yes there's plenty of room in the POS's ship array. A couple other peeps I know are getting this. I have petitioned and have also submitted bug report. Still a major pain in the butt. Another issue is the fact the corp m8's need to have access to a corp wallet division to build items at a POS array...that's just dumb.
gordon861 Minmatar AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:45:00 - [508] I wasn't aware when the patch notes mentioned the Need For Speed, it meant that they were taking away any speed we had and make the interface even slower. After the first Kali moving items around hangers slowed down and now it's got even slower..... Originally by: CCP Arkanon I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I donÆt believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe.
Ari Chu Bughunter Industries	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:48:00 - [509] Ok overall I think the patch went well though there are two things which could be improved upon for my experience: 1) I have run about 20 missions today with a new Corp, was gaining corp standing and even got a storyline mission which brought my corp standing up to .15..... then I get no more faction/corp standing after that for another 10 or so mission runs. 2) When I open up a wreck (or close it) there is a dramatic pause in the game.. during a battle this is more than a little disconcerting. Obviously the first one is much more important than the second, but having both fixed (along with the camera reset after jumping and the click-through overview) would be great. Cheers. --- "The Galaxy is only as big as you make it." - presumably Eve Game Designers.
Drahcir Nasom Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:50:00 - [510] Edited by: Drahcir Nasom on 20/06/2007 21:50:56 Not sure if this one has been posted, can't be bothered to read through 18 pages of messages. Have 1,154,178,389 trit in corp hangar, and it shows as 0.11B on the icon instead of 1.15B, also have 116,128,768 Pyer and it shows as 0.01B instead of 0.11B, looks like someone has added an extra 0 into whatever they are dividing by to get the icon figures when they are in the Billions. Drahcir p.s. Tried bug reporting this, but the bug reporting server seems to be down.

picchiatello	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:55:00 - [511] hiya. there is a very big problem with new hidden plex ( old 6/10 statics plex)... what's wrong ?simple.. i found a hidden plex in sistem ( unk signal ) i went to gate.. jump in.. and no npc in it.. no gate keeper for next gate.. i talked with support GM .. he told that this plex despawn later downtime... you know what mean? if somebody already did it .. the plex remain it and you maybe spent 30 min / 1 hours /2hours for find a plex that you are never be able to do cose there aren't npc in it and you can't activate next gate... why pre rev 2 hidden plex despawn very soon? while now this plex need downtime before leave ? you need fix this dev.. or so many players oftern will scan for hidden plex that they never can do that...
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.20 21:57:00 - [512] OK, here's a nasty little bug we can thank Vista support for adding to our game. Like many others, I had gotten the "Insufficient Priviledge" error on migrating settings. Unlike most others, ignoring it or using the "/end /LUA:OFF" switches didn't help, and in fact I couldn't get into the game at all. It would simply freeze after acquiring bulk data. This is with an empty cache folder, BTW. So, I decided to try uninstalling the client entirely and re-installing it to the default location. Sure enough, this worked fine, although now I'll have to pull my settings and bookmarks from my backup. The key issue here, for the devs to address, is that my original installation was in C:\Games, which was a partition mount-point. NTFS allows you to mount partitions within other paths, and it's very convenient when you add hard drives to NOT have to fiddle with hundreds of registry entries and .ini files. SOMETHING in the way the new client does things (and I suspect it has to do with Vista support, as Caesar IV also did this) refuses to accept that C:\Games is not part of C:\, and it probably fails trying to write to the underlying directory that the partition is mounted over. So, thanks to Vista, my Windows XP system has to have several games installed on the older slow drive because it won't properly deal with NTFS features. Hopefully, someone else might find this useful... it took me quite a few guesses to figure this one out. :)
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:04:00 - [513] Originally by: picchiatello hiya. there is a very big problem with new hidden plex ( old 6/10 statics plex)... what's wrong ?simple.. i found a hidden plex in sistem ( unk signal ) i went to gate.. jump in.. and no npc in it.. no gate keeper for next gate.. i talked with support GM .. he told that this plex despawn later downtime... you know what mean? if somebody already did it .. the plex remain it and you maybe spent 30 min / 1 hours /2hours for find a plex that you are never be able to do cose there aren't npc in it and you can't activate next gate... why pre rev 2 hidden plex despawn very soon? while now this plex need downtime before leave ? you need fix this dev.. or so many players oftern will scan for hidden plex that they never can do that... my suggsetion for 2-4 hour cycling of despawning ( finished) and respawning of new ones ( fresh replacement within constellation or even region of both exploration and encounters) has been totally ignored b ythe devs they can do it with NPC belt spawns but not exploration-encounters which means u should get on af ter dt to farm stuff c ause just before dt there is a definite disadvantage. Lazy programming thats all
Dakry helios	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:04:00 - [514] ok im afraid i had to back up what is being said on the subject of the drone regions. this really is annoying now. Have been in the drone regions for a while and always noticed i could make more money if i go else where depending on how i worked eg if i just wanted quick cash then fountain or something is where to go where as if you wait then drone regions is the best but now what?! everything has disappeared, we have had one cosmic location in the entire system so far and my co-ceo said he worked hard today and got a drone officer killed it but it dropped nothing. i mean wth has happened to the drone regions, they really are bad :( it would appear the drone regions are being the last to have anything in them and its really quite annoying to be able to rat and fill a can easily within a few hours to make the normal amount as you would in 0.0 then after a patch take an entire day to fill a can?!?! Dak's
GouldFish Unscoped Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:06:00 - [515] Wow I can't belive so many people complaining about where the game options are saved. If you look at any new big game they all save to my documents or local data, this means if more then one person uses the computer (like in alot of homes) the saved data is not over written. It also means you only need to back up your user directory if you want to backup and rebuild your machine. The funny thing is this means windows is more like Linux and OSX where user details and saves are kept on the user directory and not in the app directory, which will aid in Eve's porting to those OS's. Personally I've found the patch to work perfectly fine and am quite happy with it,and this is on a client that was installed off the orginal CD copied between hard driver and not been reinstalled once since.
Borasatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:11:00 - [516] Good upgrade! No hitches so far for me.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:16:00 - [517] I want to voice my opinion of the file relocation, fact is, I can find it, it was all there... sort of... I am not sure how many screenshots I had prior to the patch, but now I have 8... all are identical. None of us is as dumb as all of us...
Teila	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:17:00 - [518] Originally by: Ankanos stuff... 4# BEFORE starting the client i applied the switches as per CCP's instructions (/end /LUA:OFF) to my eve shortcut. so in MY case my shortcut looks like this: F:\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF ...more stuff per what instructions?
Amael Galenus Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:27:00 - [519] Edited by: Amael Galenus on 20/06/2007 22:28:32 Apologies if these have been reported before: 1) Standing increases for "Gone berserk" and "Human cattle" level 2 missions are out by a factor of 1000 (e.g. you get 0.0012% standings increase instead of 1.2%) 2) Windows don't remember their size when you close them- i.e. you look at someone's info, resize the window to read it, close the window, then the next info window you open is back to the default (small) size again. This has been happening since the previous patch and IS VERY ANNOYING!... I waste so much time having to constantly resize windows. 3) Drone AI is still borked (and it's not just on "rare" occasions- it kept on happening to me over and over again tonight). Sent 5 hammerheads to engage a target, they start attacking, apparently get bored, 2 stay attacking the intended target, 2 split off to attack another target, the remaining 1 also splits off to attack another target. It seems to happen more when you finish a target lock- i.e. if the drones are attacking a target and you establish a lock on a new target, they just go nuts and do what they like. 4) There is a long delay with the overview bar updating to show that a wreck is now empty (i.e. when the wreck icon changes from white to grey and empty). It also deselects whatever you had selected in the overwiew bar when it refreshes for this which is very annoying. 5) All of my settings were lost- have remade them but it was a pain to do. Other than that, all seems good- well done! Edit: Tried to bug report these but the server seems to be dead
d1v1n1ty	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:42:00 - [520] Originally by: Ari Chu Ok overall I think the patch went well though there are two things which could be improved upon for my experience: 1) I have run about 20 missions today with a new Corp, was gaining corp standing and even got a storyline mission which brought my corp standing up to .15..... then I get no more faction/corp standing after that for another 10 or so mission runs. Yea - the same with my agents....this has me nervous. Hope it gets fixed ASAP...unless someone already knows of one. Thanks!

Heimer	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:55:00 - [521] Edited by: Heimer on 20/06/2007 22:55:11 Bah, alt post.
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:57:00 - [522] Here we are, after the first full workday since release. Let's run the tally: Number of issues reported here: Many Number of developers responding: 1 Number of issues addressed: 2 Number of updates to the original post: 0 Number of updates to http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp: 0 -- Great Job CCP! (at making us feel ignored)
Acoco Osiris Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.06.20 22:59:00 - [523] Edited by: Acoco Osiris on 20/06/2007 22:59:00 Probably because a lot of the devs are either A) Playing the game themselves, or B) Working to correct the problems And CCP, I have to congratulate you on a quick and mostly painless patch. LP store is nice, though I sincerely wish I would've known beforehand to stock up on Navy tags instead of just selling them. A is meant as a joke, not a serious comment on CCP employees. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:05:00 - [524] Originally by: Miter Here we are, after the first full workday since release. Let's run the tally: Number of issues reported here: Many Number of developers responding: 1 Number of issues addressed: 2 Number of updates to the original post: 0 Number of updates to http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp: 0 -- Great Job CCP! (at making us feel ignored) I said it before, I'll say it again. Everytime a major patch hits the gluesniffers come out of the woodwork. Kudos to you though brother, congratulations on knowing exactly what is going on behind scenes at CCP. Got Miss Cleo on speed-dial? People like you make me sick beyond all belief, instead of giving CCP the benefit of the doubt you're tearing into them. Perhaps they're busy coding fixes and making improvements as fast as possible? Naw, we gotta immediately be controversial don't we? It's a cryin' shame CCP has to be insulted by waterheads like yourself when they're trying to fix problems while still interacting with the playerbase, 2 responses? Hell of alot more than most other MMO players would get. Go freak about some gnome stealing your "phat lewtz". We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:23:00 - [525] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Ankanos per what instructions? The instructions in the patch notes. (http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp, build 33752)
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:27:00 - [526] Let's also not forget something- right now, it's 11:25 PM in Iceland. Most of the CCP staff are probably asleep, especially after a recent 24 hour downtime with a huge push to get a patch out. Patience is the key. SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:30:00 - [527] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium I said it before, I'll say it again. Everytime a major patch hits the gluesniffers come out of the woodwork. I do believe your personal attacks are out of place here. Please go read the original post where Kieron says that that post will be updated with known issues. That list has not changed since the game came back. Whatever is going on 'behind the scenes' at CCP, a tiny amount of communication as things are being fixed, as the promised to do, would go a long way towards easing peoples concerns. Cheers.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:33:00 - [528] Overview still under onscreen icons. Patchnotes lies? -- .
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:35:00 - [529] Originally by: Miter Originally by: Mud Pandemonium I said it before, I'll say it again. Everytime a major patch hits the gluesniffers come out of the woodwork. I do believe your personal attacks are out of place here. Please go read the original post where Kieron says that that post will be updated with known issues. That list has not changed since the game came back. Whatever is going on 'behind the scenes' at CCP, a tiny amount of communication as things are being fixed, as the promised to do, would go a long way towards easing peoples concerns. Cheers. Yeah, because people work 24 hour days and cut into their productivity to come onto the forums and appease some little fool who is crying about issues CCP is well aware of. Give them the benefit of the doubt. Their job (Except on rare occasion) is essentially thankless, they get a paycheck but almost no love from the playerbase. Die in a fire. ISD, Requesting a 24 Forum ban on myself before I unload on this glue sniffing waterhead. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:39:00 - [530] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium ... some little fool who is crying about issues CCP is well aware of. [...] Die in a fire. ISD, Requesting a 24 Forum ban on myself before I unload on this glue sniffing waterhead. And you know they are 'well aware' of these issues, how, exactly? Percentage of CCP Bug Reporting services down: 100%

Souvera Corvus Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:43:00 - [531] Apologies if this is present in the other 18 pages or so, but whilst attempting to log in my PC crashed before it had a chance to migrate the cache folder. As it seems that it was important that this didn't happen, what are the consequences? Thanks to anyone in advance................
Angeles Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:44:00 - [532] Originally by: Miter Originally by: Mud Pandemonium ... some little fool who is crying about issues CCP is well aware of. [...] Die in a fire. ISD, Requesting a 24 Forum ban on myself before I unload on this glue sniffing waterhead. And you know they are 'well aware' of these issues, how, exactly? Percentage of CCP Bug Reporting services down: 100% its called petition
Pross	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:45:00 - [533] Originally by: Jimer Lins Let's also not forget something- right now, it's 11:25 PM in Iceland. Most of the CCP staff are probably asleep, especially after a recent 24 hour downtime with a huge push to get a patch out. Patience is the key. What about when it was between the hours of 9am and 5pm slightly earlier today? Keeping promises is the key.
Karynn Carrion Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:46:00 - [534] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Miter Originally by: Mud Pandemonium I said it before, I'll say it again. Everytime a major patch hits the gluesniffers come out of the woodwork. I do believe your personal attacks are out of place here. Please go read the original post where Kieron says that that post will be updated with known issues. That list has not changed since the game came back. Whatever is going on 'behind the scenes' at CCP, a tiny amount of communication as things are being fixed, as the promised to do, would go a long way towards easing peoples concerns. Cheers. Die in a fire. ISD, Requesting a 24 Forum ban on myself before I unload on this glue sniffing waterhead. I hope they ban you in game for that.
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:53:00 - [535] Originally by: Hockston Axe Edited by: Hockston Axe on 20/06/2007 18:25:40 Edited by: Hockston Axe on 20/06/2007 18:20:36 The speed indicatior is either broken or if intential you need to re-evaluate your intentions. If you hold the mouse over the max speed button, it no longer shows your current speed, even in warp. This is a horrible and completely pointless change. There is now no way to tell how fast your ship warps, and since there is no stat in show info on a ships warp speed, you can never tell how fast a particular ship is now, other than knowing from before when the speed indicator actually worked. How are you supposed to even know if the warp speed rigs you've just fitted are even doing anything now? Fix it, and not in Kali VI either, sooner than soon, i.e. now. Heat UI, sucks. That is all. Some people (i.e. many many people) like to know at a glance what mods are active. That was hard to do before, and is nearly impossible now. Do you guys play wearing 3-D glasses to make the Green jump out? I agree with these points. In ships such as interceptors and Vagabonds, knowing exactly how you are accelerating/decelerating can mean the difference between life and death. If this is some sort of "Upgrade" (lol) to make the game run faster, then its possibly one of the worst UI changes in the history of Eve. To me, its even more of a problem then not knowing what modules have activated. Which is another problem altogether. Hell, I would work for CCP for free if I knew that 'wtf' type changes like these wouldn't make it in and thus ruin part of the Eve experience for us. Please, re-evaluate this as soon as possible. -----
mephistopheles666	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:53:00 - [536] I did an Angel Extravaganza lvl 4 tonight for Ishukone, it was a piece of cake! compared to pre revelations II It used to be 5 pockets with a few groups per pocket now it still is 5 pockets but you shoot a group and a next group spawns; this is too easy!! lvl 4 missions are supposed to be difficult! so please restore this mission thank you!
Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:54:00 - [537] Bug in regards to Ammunition and Weapons. Hybrid Weapons and Ammunition currently aren't calculating the values properly, if at all. For example. Iridium vs Antimatter charges in a Hybrid weapon. It's calculating the range bonus for the Iridium, and the negative range for the Antimatter, but not the damage bonus for the Antimatter (and perhaps the Iridium as well) This is a rather major issue, can this be fixed within the next 24 hours? For now, it's basically free-reign on Gallente in Low Sec/0.0
armoured support	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:54:00 - [538] Edited by: armoured support on 20/06/2007 23:55:15 i hope you get everything sorted quickly =)
Pross	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:55:00 - [539] Originally by: CCP kieron The second Revelations expansion has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status. Known Issues: Items will be added to this list based upon feedback in this thread. For those who cannot locate the original post.
Armoured C	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:56:00 - [540] hey i have just attempted to log into the game and was wondering ...is the game down as i am not sure if it me or the game is down, thanks for clearing this up as i said to other CCP bashers like the one we seem to have here, they only got one pair of hands i would like to see you do it in a simliar situation and i bet 100% of the time they are more commited to you, they work hard keeping this game up, other games shorten the load by working on many servers so they can just close one of those down, eve is only one server and i imange that they are already on the case which is more on the case of you who was never on the case, stop you stoooopid wining you noob and just wait for them to fix it, it a big game and so take time to find small problems but they get there in the end

Eigenvalue	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:59:00 - [541] Originally by: Armoured C they only got one pair of hands I sympathize with CCP as a vet software engineer of 15 years, but they have many more than one pair of hands. Regression testing frameworks with help resolve most of their problems, as would pre staging release.
Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:02:00 - [542] Originally by: Armadaus Baldwin Bug in regards to Ammunition and Weapons. Hybrid Weapons and Ammunition currently aren't calculating the values properly, if at all. For example. Iridium vs Antimatter charges in a Hybrid weapon. It's calculating the range bonus for the Iridium, and the negative range for the Antimatter, but not the damage bonus for the Antimatter (and perhaps the Iridium as well) This is a rather major issue, can this be fixed within the next 24 hours? For now, it's basically free-reign on Gallente in Low Sec/0.0 Update to bug. With the emergency HotFix pushed out... now Damage Bonuses don't apply at all to Hybrid weapons. All negative effects, and range effects are being applied, but no damage bonus is being applied at all from Ammunition. Looks like many many Gallente will be staying in Empire for a while.
DeAnnais	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:03:00 - [543] Edited by: DeAnnais on 21/06/2007 00:02:03 In my playing just over 6 months now there has been an issue with every patch, so I don't expect a whole lot to work first 24-48 hours after...and have learned to plan accordingly. With many of the changes made with Rev.II I'm honestly suprised it made it this long...
TeaDaze GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:05:00 - [544] Originally by: GouldFish Wow I can't belive so many people complaining about where the game options are saved. If you look at any new big game they all save to my documents or local data, this means if more then one person uses the computer (like in alot of homes) the saved data is not over written. It also means you only need to back up your user directory if you want to backup and rebuild your machine. The funny thing is this means windows is more like Linux and OSX where user details and saves are kept on the user directory and not in the app directory, which will aid in Eve's porting to those OS's. Personally I've found the patch to work perfectly fine and am quite happy with it,and this is on a client that was installed off the orginal CD copied between hard driver and not been reinstalled once since. I'm glad it works for you. As has been said though it is a fairly pointless change for those of us not running Vista and in many cases (older system drives, people with multiple accounts, people who backup their my documents folder to work servers) it is causing issues. If you look at any new big game or app they ask you where you want to install them. Why in that case should they be putting settings files etc elsewhere? What was the point of asking me, why not just force everyone to have one massive C: drive with all apps in the one program files directory tree. Personally I think it is daft in 99% of cases to have settings for an application outside of the application directory itself (not to mention having files scattered to the winds, registry etc), but that is my opinion and I don't expect everyone to agree. Choice is good. Personally I like to backup each game as needed and most of the time I can copy them between my desktop and laptop without having to have the same login and or my documents folder on each machine. As far as eve is concerned, it would not have been hard for CCP to have either made the change only for the people running on vista or to make it a configuration option. Mostly happy with the patch otherwise, slightly disappointed by the number of people happy to dismiss other people's issues...
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:09:00 - [545] Originally by: Armoured C ...is the game down stop you stoooopid wining you noob and just wait for them to fix it Yes, I'm waiting, we're all waiting. And, yes, the game was down when you posted that.
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:10:00 - [546] Edited by: Faekurias on 21/06/2007 00:14:31 still, everytime I log in is as if it was the first time ever. And becoems so not only when I start the game. But also when I Jump,dock,undock. Edit : What was changed in the "critical issue being addressed" hotfix? I can't see much difference, seems like modules have a darker background, but Im in black space now. so might just be that. Still pretty hard to see active shield modules when the shields flashing about your ship:/ The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:18:00 - [547] If you're losing settings on session change or reload of the game client, my first thought would be that your game settings or cache folder are set to read-only. Right-click the folder in Explorer, select properties and see if the "Read-Only" checkbox is set, and if so, clear it. Worth trying anyway. SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:20:00 - [548] Originally by: Jimer Lins If you're losing settings on session change or reload of the game client, my first thought would be that your game settings or cache folder are set to read-only. Right-click the folder in Explorer, select properties and see if the "Read-Only" checkbox is set, and if so, clear it. Worth trying anyway. Dude...you're my God. if this works I'll eat your lice. (2.20 in the morning here, guess I shouldave been able to figure that out :( ) The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:24:00 - [549] /me eats lice <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 The ladies man. MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :< Oh mai GOD!
Laendra	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:34:00 - [550] Bug Report isn't working... Junior Accountant Role cannot view Corp Asset tab via the Corp interface ------------------- Brainstorm ideas to make EVE better:->http://eve.stormingbrains.org/index.php

Jimer Lins Gallente Sanctuary	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:48:00 - [551] Originally by: Faekurias Originally by: Jimer Lins If you're losing settings on session change or reload of the game client, my first thought would be that your game settings or cache folder are set to read-only. Right-click the folder in Explorer, select properties and see if the "Read-Only" checkbox is set, and if so, clear it. Worth trying anyway. Dude...you're my God. if this works I'll eat your lice. (2.20 in the morning here, guess I shouldave been able to figure that out :( ) While I'm glad it seems to have helped, I think we can skip the lice part... Seriously, though- good to know it worked. SEARCh- we find sites for you!
Raindrop VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.21 01:25:00 - [552] Please allow EVE to write logs and captures in their own Eve folders. I can't organise my accounts now because they log into the same directory. Not very handy when you want to organise your wallet exports. Raindrop It only takes a raindrop to cool the market. 100% Carebear and loving it. Trader. Hauler.
K'ang Minmatar Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.21 03:04:00 - [553] I posted a topic in the Known Issues forum, but that was liklely the wrong place to put it. Has anyone else had problems with the EVE client crashing during startup with Revelations 2 ? For me it is crashing right when the character selection page would load (i.e. after logging in, the client starts ok). I get a black screen and a reboot every time. I have the latest video drivers, I've disabled sound HW acceleration, updated all my drivers, done a complete uninstall and a clean install. Same problem. nVidia EN7950GT, WinXP. Suggestions ? K'ang.
Tavro	Posted - 2007.06.21 03:04:00 - [554] Edited by: Tavro on 21/06/2007 03:06:27 My fps has taken a Sharp turn south after I installed the patch. In space, the FPS is half of what it was before the patch at it's very best, and during missions it's simply unbearable. However, while docked in the station everything is fine. I've tried going down to the lowest graphic settings but it doesn't help at all. Edit: Also, after going through My Doc's, I noticed that I don't even have a Cache folder. A smart man would say there is something wrong with this.
MI Koshkin The Protectorate Corporation Pax Familia	Posted - 2007.06.21 03:11:00 - [555] How long should a complex stay around before despawning? If you mess up and can no longer complete the plex because you don't have a key when will the plex despawn? Any ideas? I ask because we have one in that status in a nearby system and it's been a day now that it can't be completed. Kosh
Tavro	Posted - 2007.06.21 03:13:00 - [556] Upon further review, I discovered that My Cache folder is nowhere to be found. A smart man would think this might have something to do with my quagmire.
Sarrian Calda Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:10:00 - [557] Just did 2x level 4 missions, Pirate Slaughter and Massive Attack. Both ZERO standing gains.
Metellus Scipio Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:19:00 - [558] I'm a really (really) new player, tried to do a bug report in game but it didn't seem to work right. While playing I set a system as my destination and went to that system (about 8 jumps). For the entire rest of my game session tonight, everytime I would leave a station, or jump even, that same old destination would pop up as my current destination. It's nerve racing having to reset this after every jump, or everytime I leave a station. I cleared all of my way points 3 times and no problem. I had to shut the game down and re-enter to get it to stop.
Metellus Scipio Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:20:00 - [559] Originally by: Jimer Lins If you're losing settings on session change or reload of the game client, my first thought would be that your game settings or cache folder are set to read-only. Right-click the folder in Explorer, select properties and see if the "Read-Only" checkbox is set, and if so, clear it. Worth trying anyway. God I hope that works. Having to reset everything everytime is frustrating.
Lord Falco	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:25:00 - [560] is Amarr ship invention bugged post patch? I ran 8 invention jobs with one success all skills at lvl 5 and the best decrypter. and 1 success.

Method 0	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:27:00 - [561] Originally by: Ari Chu 2) When I open up a wreck (or close it) there is a dramatic pause in the game.. during a battle this is more than a little disconcerting. Seconded (or so).
NetMage	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:34:00 - [562] Originally by: Method 0 Originally by: Ari Chu 2) When I open up a wreck (or close it) there is a dramatic pause in the game.. during a battle this is more than a little disconcerting. Seconded (or so). /signed
Lillybeth	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:43:00 - [563] This thread has turned into a major rant. Why bother to run on and on about the same issue? Once they have been identified CCP will make their lists and prioritize the fixes - its all about politics and costs. There are still a few of us that manage to stay on track and talk about new issues i.e. Originally by: Drahcir Nasom Edited by: Drahcir Nasom on 20/06/2007 21:50:56 Not sure if this one has been posted, can't be bothered to read through 18 pages of messages. Have 1,154,178,389 trit in corp hangar, and it shows as 0.11B on the icon instead of 1.15B, also have 116,128,768 Pyer and it shows as 0.01B instead of 0.11B, looks like someone has added an extra 0 into whatever they are dividing by to get the icon figures when they are in the Billions. Drahcir p.s. Tried bug reporting this, but the bug reporting server seems to be down. Lets get down to the really important stuff like what should we do with all of the crap required for the low end of the now defunct offer system. Items like: Wheat Toxic Waste Antibiotics Polytextiles ... Are all of the illicit crystal egg traders now out of work? Those that haunt the Narcotics channel must be really upset. Oh well there are always boosters. For me the removal of the offers of various mining Mining Crystals is movement in a good direction. It's worth it if a few of you have to deal with the inability to connect or not get the correct status increase or yammer on about the button colors as long as I don't have to read the Butterfly Effect ever again. LB
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.06.21 04:45:00 - [564] awww... i can't find the thingy where they wanted the stuff behind the overview to keep from getting selected in the patch notes anymore =( did you bury that idea? -
Jun Kurisaki The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:03:00 - [565] On two of my three accounts I have lost roughly two weeks worth of progress. Both characters have lost 2 weeks of training, and my ships and equipment have reverted to old states. For example I put three cap rigs in my raven a little over a week ago, now the rigs aren't there. A week ago I spent a lot of money to buy a new ship and fit it, that ship does not exist. I have the money back I guess, but not as much as I had when I bought the ship as I had a few days worth of ratting money in my account that seems to have been lost. On these two characters, there was no skill in training when I first launched the client after the patch (this evening). My third character appears to be fine. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Kaoyama Ameko	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:08:00 - [566] Just posting to say that I am also getting the standing gain problems from level 4 missions. To be more specific, I looked into it and found what seems to be the problem: Pre-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (pirate invasion): 2.3916% Post-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (Smuggler Interception): 0.023% The decimal point seems to have taken a little stroll.
Gulkan Djinn	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:27:00 - [567] Originally by: Jimer Lins If you're losing settings on session change or reload of the game client, my first thought would be that your game settings or cache folder are set to read-only. Right-click the folder in Explorer, select properties and see if the "Read-Only" checkbox is set, and if so, clear it. Worth trying anyway. I was having this problem. It was caused by not running the game client as administrator on Vista.
TGR Reaper	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:27:00 - [568] Originally by: Kaoyama Ameko Just posting to say that I am also getting the standing gain problems from level 4 missions. To be more specific, I looked into it and found what seems to be the problem: Pre-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (pirate invasion): 2.3916% Post-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (Smuggler Interception): 0.023% The decimal point seems to have taken a little stroll. I think the same thing happened with the invention change modifier. :(
Vir Hellnamin Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:47:00 - [569] Originally by: Kaoyama Ameko Pre-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (pirate invasion): 2.3916% Post-Rev II gain from a level 4 mission (Smuggler Interception): 0.023% The decimal point seems to have taken a little stroll. Looks like a division by 100, which is common in percentage calculations. Maybe none too many in some place? -- V.H. "Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi, Gradient [GRD]
Sara 7 Minmatar Defence Research and Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.21 05:59:00 - [570] Reported this as a bug already but ... Certain cans in spawned magnetometric sites which previously needed a salvager now seem to need the analyser - only problem is the analyser doesn't have salvaging as a skill pre-req so you get a nasty message. Otherwise FANTASTIC work CCP - I'm loving it !! Sara 7 What would you like to fly today ?

Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.21 06:10:00 - [571] Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. Now Recruiting
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.21 06:10:00 - [572] Oh, and FIX THE CAMERA RESET!! Now Recruiting
Vandervecken Smith Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.21 08:25:00 - [573] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. I am getting this too, and not just in Hangar 4, but 3 as well. Didn't test any others. Somewhere along the line, I am sure someone missed a parenthesis. Bug report 39259 submitted.
myii Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.21 09:33:00 - [574] Originally by: Imhothar Xarodit Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 20/06/2007 01:01:42 Why, OMFG why do all my window positions have to be reset? WHY OH HOLY ICELAND, WHY? I'M SO SICK OF THIS!!! Please, can't you for once do a major patch that does not screw up all window positions? I'm really sick of it. Seriously. Oh and even with the /end /LUA:OFF switch, the capture and log files are copied to MyDocuments. I thought that switch was there to prevent that? Thank you very much for screwing up my Windows partition. Was it that hard to simply add a prefs.ini entry or a simple configuration tool for setting those paths? Just becuase Microsoft says something doesn't mean it is authomatically the best for everyone. Customizability is the keyword here. I'm so angry rihght now you won't believe that. ARRGH Quoted for the ******* truth! I spent 2 hours re-doing all the settings for all my accounts and characters yesterday. Today? They've all re-set back to the default settings. What a joke CCP. Luckily 3 of my 4 accounts expire tomorrow and I'm setting a very long skill on each of them and letting them expire until you fix this annoying problem... -$45 for you. Having to re-do settings every day is no fun CCP. I thought you would have fixed that by now... it happens after every friggin' patch Signed: Another very angry player.
Meervluis OMEGA DIRECTIVE Event Horizon.	Posted - 2007.06.21 09:46:00 - [575] Edited by: Meervluis on 21/06/2007 09:45:37 I don't know if this has been posted already, but i couldn't find it in the bug list. I ran a Serpentis Extravaganza level 4 yesterday but i don't seem to get any standing update with my agent, it was at 7.9 and it stayed at 7.9. Just wondering if something was up with this.
Bambi	Posted - 2007.06.21 10:19:00 - [576] Edited by: Bambi on 21/06/2007 10:22:29 Edited by: Bambi on 21/06/2007 10:21:58 Originally by: Meervluis Edited by: Meervluis on 21/06/2007 09:45:37 I don't know if this has been posted already, but i couldn't find it in the bug list. I ran a Serpentis Extravaganza level 4 yesterday but i don't seem to get any standing update with my agent, it was at 7.9 and it stayed at 7.9. Just wondering if something was up with this. You wont get a standing increase after just 1 mission, not with a 7.9 standing anyway. It usualy takes 4 or 5 missions to gain 0.1 for me. Also people saying that they used to get 2.9% gain for a mission. I never go that much with level 4 agents after reaching a standing of about 6(ish) 0.1 -0.3% is the usual. (Or so I have found) Re: overview settings I read somewhere on here that they are stored in your characters .dat file, but I always thought they were server side. Only client settings and window positions etc are client side in the dat files. It would be nice to be wrong on this one, then we could all back up ALL our settings....
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.06.21 10:23:00 - [577] Sorry if this has been posted already: I get a all white image on all 3 images from the F11 map. The small map that comes with the mission briefing is also a white square.
Mallick Northern Intelligence	Posted - 2007.06.21 10:33:00 - [578] I CAN'T LOG IN!
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.21 11:05:00 - [579] Thanks so much for screwing the max runs on Strip Miner I bpc's. I had a large order with 2 bpo's cooking that was entered way before patch was even announced. I just delivered them and my 1000 run bpc's are now 300 run bpc's. Another great CCP move. These BPO's were only seeded a couple of month's ago. You nerfed the manufacture time and the run numbers by about 2/3's. No wonder my 1000 run prints on contract flew out the door at 10 mil a pop after patch. Thanks for the heads up and for nerfing my prints that were ready for delivery before the patch was deployed... Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Arath Gor Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.21 11:07:00 - [580] Like the new look, I have to say. But there are still some issues that needs to be fixed. 1) When selecting a target, there is a possibility of selecting an item behind the target, if it's floating there, instead of making the target active. 2) Still some sound problems, mostly when in station, but also in space. Drone sounds, while in combat, are faulty. In station sounds is set to "null" when other sound has to be played and starts over again. Sometimes sounds while going down the menu list, don't play after a while. While other issues, like agent missions and stuff like that, are being fixed; I just mine... Nice work; I thank you CCP for this new patch, which I hope will get bug fixed as soon as possible. Like the new look and feel (as much possible while bug-fixing), but this issue about targeting needs to be fixed ASAP. -------- Doing my own business, where ever I can. Reykjavik is a party town. I don't party - I EVE. "Censorship is the weapon of the narrow minded." ~ Arath Gor

Xtown Apple Corp	Posted - 2007.06.21 11:14:00 - [581] CCP, you seem to have made a mistake in the way the Heat bonses apply to guns. These are the effects: Rails and Arties: +15% to RoF Blasters and ACs: +15% to dmg output Surely it would be better and more logical to apply the damage bonus to high damage, slow firing guns and the RoF bonus to quicker firing weapons. Before anyone comments, I know a 15% RoF bonus results in a better than 15% damage bonus over time but as Heat is intended as a last ditch thing and the positive effects only occur from the start of a new cycle the time factor is unlikely to be an issue.
Caligulus Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.06.21 11:24:00 - [582] Kieron, you suck at your job. -The "known issues" in your post haven't been updated and they are plenty (read CCP doesn't bother to QA code anymore). -The "known issues" link in your post is for the WRONG patch (how do you get that wrong?) -What was the deal with that hotfix? What did it fix? -Could you disclose all the stealth nerfs/fixes that didn't make the patch notes (IE fixing the negative ME table for invention). -Could we get a status on the fix of known issues? It's one thing to make your paying customer QA your work because you can't be bothered, it's being a total jerk to then not work with them and inform them of the status of these bugs. You've GOT to stay on top of this sort of stuff. Update that list so someone with an issue doesn't have to read 20 some odd pages of posts and spend 2 hours doing so just to see if their issue is a known bug. This patch had potential and some very creative ideas but it's being severely marred by poor follow through (screwing up the settings migration, can't "view only" corp wallet data) and bad error checking.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.06.21 12:23:00 - [583] Edited by: Acoco Osiris on 21/06/2007 12:25:28 Originally by: Mallick I CAN'T LOG IN! Try logging in while the server isn't in a scheduled daily downtime. Scheduled, Everyday, Maintainence, Downtime. Get that yet? EDIT: Just to inform you on something which is posted on the EVE login screen, the daily downtime is between 10:00 and 11:00 server time. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Pizi Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.21 12:43:00 - [584] the new invention implants missing the % in the decription .. _______________________________________________ EVEpedia[Deutsch/German] add
Exigo Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.21 12:48:00 - [585] Changing crystals in my Pulse lasers is a pain. When I hover my cursor over the crystal the description and status of the crystal shows up. When I right-click the crystal to change to a different crystal, the info screen covers up the crystal selection menu making it slower to change to a different crystal. If I right-click to change the crystal, the info screen should disappear. Another solution would be to have the status info screen show up in a slightly different position, such as a little lower.
Robrian	Posted - 2007.06.21 12:54:00 - [586] Hi all I am not going to read 20 pages to see if anyone else having probs ,but we have lost an office and all our equipment in the corp hanger ,so not sure if anyone else had the problem. Petition has been sent. Otherwise i like Rev 2 so far.
Zy'or Tealon Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.21 13:18:00 - [587] Perhaps it's possible to update the knownissues page to Rev II? Revelations 1.4.2 is soooo last week. That way people who experiance problems, like POS guns not being able to controlled, offlined or whatsoever, don't have to read through 20 pages of forum post to find out if the problem in question has already been reported. Originally by: Clementina If you bug report it, you get ignored. If you post about it on the forums, you get banned. If you exploit it, you get rich.
Braineater Minmatar BINFORD	Posted - 2007.06.21 13:35:00 - [588] Originally by: Vandervecken Smith I am getting this too, and not just in Hangar 4, but 3 as well. Didn't test any others. Somewhere along the line, I am sure someone missed a parenthesis. Bug report 39259 submitted. Same problem here, seems as if it always checks the Div 1 role, no matter which hangar it is you're trying to access. Especially bad for those corps that use Div 1 as free-for-all, because now every hangar is FFA... seems like corp-thieves got a serious boost, even the amarrians for once^^ ______
Elspeth Vigneron Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries	Posted - 2007.06.21 14:09:00 - [589] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. All hangers for both of my accounts. Can't "give" from my hanger or any of the corp hangers. Can't take from any of the corp hangers. Same with other players in our corp. Roles and abilities we had before went away. Plus they don't seem to stay when re-assigned. Phoenix Logistics Industries 01010000010100100100010101010000010000010101001 00100010100100000010101000100111100100000010001 000100100101000101001011000010000
Elspeth Vigneron Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries	Posted - 2007.06.21 14:10:00 - [590] Originally by: Braineater Originally by: Vandervecken Smith I am getting this too, and not just in Hangar 4, but 3 as well. Didn't test any others. Somewhere along the line, I am sure someone missed a parenthesis. Bug report 39259 submitted. Same problem here, seems as if it always checks the Div 1 role, no matter which hangar it is you're trying to access. Especially bad for those corps that use Div 1 as free-for-all, because now every hangar is FFA... seems like corp-thieves got a serious boost, even the amarrians for once^^ Says that for me, too. Phoenix Logistics Industries 01010000010100100100010101010000010000010101001 00100010100100000010101000100111100100000010001 000100100101000101001011000010000

Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.21 14:33:00 - [591] Originally by: myii Originally by: Imhothar Xarodit Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 20/06/2007 01:01:42 Why, OMFG why do all my window positions have to be reset? WHY OH HOLY ICELAND, WHY? I'M SO SICK OF THIS!!! Having to re-do settings every day is no fun CCP. I thought you would have fixed that by now... it happens after every friggin' patch Simple solution to all the settings woes. When a client is installed (wherever), give it a unique identifier (MD5 works). Store that in the local .ini file, along with TQ's address. Put all other settings into an SQL table on your server, the same place your login credentials live, and list of players. With all the ini settings stored on the server end, they won't get lost and can be updated as needed by CCP when they do an update. If you reinstall a client, it can either create a new identifier and start fresh, or you can link it to an existing one under your username. NOW: If you'd allow us to set our own values for "resolution" when running in windowed mode, so I could not have to keep pushing the window border slighly off the screen, I'd be happy. (1280x1024 almost fits on a 1440x1050 desktop... almost!)
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.21 16:04:00 - [592] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. Bug report 39306. Now Recruiting
Aalaris	Posted - 2007.06.21 16:17:00 - [593] Since installing the patch I have had "status:unknown" and everryone else is in game. Anyone know whats going on?
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.21 16:37:00 - [594] Seems like I can't store any ships at Ship Maintanence Arrays anymore (not even with empty cargo).
Dashivan	Posted - 2007.06.21 17:24:00 - [595] I got some sound issues such as when I lock on to a target the locking sound doesnt stop. Ever.
gargars	Posted - 2007.06.21 17:32:00 - [596] Originally by: Dashivan I got some sound issues such as when I lock on to a target the locking sound doesnt stop. Ever. It's a bug they are working on. For now when it happens hit ESC and on the sound menu turn off sound, then turn it right back on. Viola!
Dashivan	Posted - 2007.06.21 17:38:00 - [597] Gargars man.... I luv u rite now!!
Sunschein	Posted - 2007.06.21 18:01:00 - [598] hello ccp, i have the following already read in this threat, but also posting it again, because just this problem has already been posted and corrected at 01.30(23.30GMT) so i hope it is already just getting fixed. I run a several missions bevor the patch, and piked out the blokade lvl 1, bevor the patch i get an agentstanding at 5,1304% and corpstanding at 0.4207% after the patch I get 0.005% from agent and 0.0004%, after your fixing at 01.30 it was like bevor, but now i get only 0,3212% from agent and 0,0263% for corpstanding, I think zhis is a little funny I hope this will not be permanent Greetings Sunschein
SillyWaif	Posted - 2007.06.21 18:19:00 - [599] Just to add another mission runner to the list. Missions : Duo of Death before: 2.085% after 0.008% The Score before: ?? % after 0.0221% Prolly wont run more missions until this is fixed.
Scoobynet	Posted - 2007.06.21 18:23:00 - [600] Well my old laptop win 2k 256 ram and 32mb video card used to crawl along but enough to keep indudtry tasks going. Now after initial screen shot of rev 2 that goes and the eve window to enter name + password never appears, after about 3 hours i get a message "stack over flow error start debugger now" is there anything i can do apart from buy a new machine? I unistalled eve and download a clean full client and that didn't help!

Quildar	Posted - 2007.06.21 18:30:00 - [601] hello.... I havent been able to login at all since the patch went live when the launcher starts up, it crashes again within the next 10 secs and its getting worse If i want to play the game i have to Reinstall the entire game and login, whitch can only be done once, and then the crashes starts once again.... Anyone else have this client problem ? and if so, what can be done to fix it ? H E L P !
MegaJ Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.21 18:59:00 - [602] Major bug: You can't offline POS modules that were placed outside of the POS forcefield by the patch! Atleast not at the POS I was using. Another ****ty one: the jump beacon thing for gangs doesn't work anymore! So if you join the gang after the cyno is up, you can't use it anymore
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.21 19:42:00 - [603] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. Bug report 39306. Eve's wonderful bughunters could not replicate this bug. :(
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.21 19:46:00 - [604] Was CCP ever going to update the known issues page?
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:16:00 - [605] is anyone else having problems approaching acceleration gates? every mission I do which uses them, I cant select the gate and hit approach, it just brings my ship to a halt :/
SillyWaif	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:25:00 - [606] Originally by: Caiman Graystock is anyone else having problems approaching acceleration gates? every mission I do which uses them, I cant select the gate and hit approach, it just brings my ship to a halt :/ Apparently when i approach them 0 m. distance looks like 10 km out ... So I guess 'yes, I have the same thing (sorta)'
casama Caldari InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:27:00 - [607] did any1 here notice that in missions, when you get webed and then you kill the weber your speed still goes like if you where webed?
Pilok Shitfly Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:32:00 - [608] Originally by: Quildar hello.... I havent been able to login at all since the patch went live when the launcher starts up, it crashes again within the next 10 secs and its getting worse If i want to play the game i have to Reinstall the entire game and login, whitch can only be done once, and then the crashes starts once again.... Anyone else have this client problem ? and if so, what can be done to fix it ? H E L P ! Wild guess. Try deleting the files in c:\documents and settings\[your name]\my documents and in c:\documents and settings\[your name]\local settings (i deleted those and they never came back) Hope this helps
Ker Ching	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:35:00 - [609] A very minor one, but I've found that when I transfer money between My Account and Corp Account, and vice versa, the amount shown when I 'mouse over' my wallet icon does not reflect the balance in my wallet. It remains at what it was before the transfer.
Swift Wind 6rasshopper Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:38:00 - [610] Originally by: casama did any1 here notice that in missions, when you get webed and then you kill the weber your speed still goes like if you where webed? Had that same issue myself before the patch. 3-4 times. Only way to bring up your speed is to jump a gate or warp out. Like perma webbed :) Anywhere, Anytime.

Codexwriter	Posted - 2007.06.21 21:07:00 - [611] Well having some graphic bugs or unwanted effects, like the edges of the ships flickering, it looks like water running from left to the right, also the warptunnel effect is very well "strong" now, get headache if i look it, anyone knows how to set off this effect?
Yoanne Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.21 21:38:00 - [612] Originally by: Scoobynet Well my old laptop win 2k 256 ram and 32mb video card used to crawl along but enough to keep indudtry tasks going. Now after initial screen shot of rev 2 that goes and the eve window to enter name + password never appears, after about 3 hours i get a message "stack over flow error start debugger now" is there anything i can do apart from buy a new machine? I unistalled eve and download a clean full client and that didn't help! I have a low quality lap top, and have nearly the same issue. I haven't gotten that error msg yet, but I don't get past the screenshot. The log in screen never comes up for me.
Eutectic Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.06.21 21:56:00 - [613] Edited by: Eutectic on 21/06/2007 22:01:32 Edited by: Eutectic on 21/06/2007 22:01:01 Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Ok, I read 10 of the 20 pages so maybe I missed this: We have corp hanger #4 set up as a free-to-all, hanger #1 is high sec for directors only. Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. The only we've found to grant access to hanger #4 was to grant access to hanger #1 as well. Why is this? Are we missing something or did CCP screw up something? Eph. Bug report 39306. Eve's wonderful bughunters could not replicate this bug. :( Experiencing same bug. Needs to be fixed as right now none of our corp members besides Directors and CEO's can take things from copr hanger. And no re-organizing corp hangers around this bug is not an option, we have almost a hundred locked BPO's in Division 1 hanger.
Ferrari Caldari Quan Labs Blue Sun Trust	Posted - 2007.06.21 22:11:00 - [614] I have tried to keep up with the forums and have been deathly afraid of logging on this character in Jita due to the zillions of posts warning against it. Can we get something in the OP about it so folks will know when it's safe again? Thanks.
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.21 22:14:00 - [615] Edited by: Miter on 21/06/2007 22:14:53 Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Was CCP ever going to update the known issues page? Careful, I mentioned this lack of updating yesterday and was called a CCP Basher and people explained that they hoped I'd 'die in a fire' Yes, CCP promised to update the original post (and presumably the known issues page, since Kieron referred us to that page) with known issues. No, this has not happened in the, so far, two 9-to-5 working days that have passed.
Trishan Green Men Incorporated The Threshold	Posted - 2007.06.21 22:31:00 - [616] Originally by: Scoobynet Well my old laptop win 2k 256 ram and 32mb video card used to crawl along but enough to keep indudtry tasks going. Now after initial screen shot of rev 2 that goes and the eve window to enter name + password never appears, after about 3 hours i get a message "stack over flow error start debugger now" is there anything i can do apart from buy a new machine? I unistalled eve and download a clean full client and that didn't help! If its a memory problem you can probably replace or expand it. I'm pretty sure the vid card is ok.
XFreedomX	Posted - 2007.06.22 00:16:00 - [617] EOS Armor rep bonus although shows up on the description of the rep does not apply in reality. Med Armor Rep II reps 320 per cycle, mounted on EOS it says 440 per cycle but when I activate the mod it reps only 320. Don't know if there is a easy way to check other bonuses but we may have a large problem.
Ghostshadow AFK Corp	Posted - 2007.06.22 01:38:00 - [618] Jamming Bug: If you jam someone then cloak (say 1 second into the jam).. even when you're fully cloaked for the full time and your jammers have been forced off. The victim is still jammed for the full cycle even after you're fully cloaked. -- Under new ownership since 20th June '07
Ankanos Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.22 01:54:00 - [619] Originally by: Teila Originally by: Ankanos stuff... 4# BEFORE starting the client i applied the switches as per CCP's instructions (/end /LUA:OFF) to my eve shortcut. so in MY case my shortcut looks like this: F:\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF ...more stuff per what instructions? The ones in the patch notes -in the section titled "Additions, Improvements, Changes and Fixes" -subsection "Client Changes" of course.. (see bellow) it's a shame.. CCP, knowing that it's overall tech-savvy player-base loves the fact that all of eve's files are under one main directory, wrote some really good, in depth patch notes and work-arounds regarding the new directory changes in Rev 2. -apparently the notes fell on deaf ears.(blind eyes?) they worked perfectly for me. (i use XP Pro) - [snipped from the patch notes] Originally by: From 33752 Patch Notes Additions, Improvements, Changes and Fixes Note: Changes and additions may be added in the future during the continuing Quality Assurance process. Finalized changes or additions will be highlighted with green text. Client Changes General compatibility changes for Windows 2000, XP and Vista, to better comply with Microsoft recommended best practices for data file locations, which are now being enforced on Windows Vista. IMPORTANT! When the patch has been deployed, your client(s) patched and you log in for the first time, the cache folder will migrate to the new location specified below. Depending on the size of your cache folder, this may be hardly noticeable, it may take several minutes. Please be patient while this happens and do NOT restart your client if it appears to 'hang'! Thank you. Game capture, log and cache folders have moved from "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE" * The capture and logs folders are now located under "My Documents\EVE" * The settings and cache folder are stored under o Windows 2000/XP: "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE" o Windows Vista: "C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE" The location of the settings folder can be forced to remain where it was stored prior to Revelations II. This can be useful when connecting a second client to a test server and not mix settings between the clients. * If the user choses to revert to this storage format, the shortcut needs to be modified to refer to: "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF". Note the switches (/end and /LUA:OFF) are case sensitive. For Vista users: * Run EVE as administrator when you patch from Rev 1.4.3 to Rev 2.0.0. * You will be asked for the administrator password when you run the new version for the first time to migrate the data files to their new location. * The installation on Vista has been optimized so Vista users will receive fewer User Access Control messages. * On machines installing the client for first time on a fresh install of Vista, users will get two User Access Control windows, one after launching the EVE setup program and the other when installing RedistD3DXOnly.exe. If the Windows Firewall is enabled when launching the EVE client for the first time, a message asking if you wish to unblock EVE will be displayed. Other firewall products may display a similar message. -I think it was pretty clear. -ank (thank you CCP) ---
JeanClaude DuSoir	Posted - 2007.06.22 02:28:00 - [620] I am having issues with standings gains. On 2007.06.21, standings gains are "normal". On 06.22, my standings gains are incredibly small (0.0001% - 0.0008%). (Hint: Those are both post-patch dates.) I am not part of a gang. I am just running the same old missions as always. Did something happen to the standings tables during DT on 06.22? Thank you, JCDS

nubiwan UKCS corp Mass Destruction.	Posted - 2007.06.22 02:46:00 - [621] Edited by: nubiwan on 22/06/2007 02:47:08 Quote: is anyone else having problems approaching acceleration gates? every mission I do which uses them, I cant select the gate and hit approach, it just brings my ship to a halt :/ What I experience AFTER the expansion was that I can use warp gate far away from it. Which is a good thing. However the distance is screwed as describe, it looks 10km from it while the OV says 0km. Aside from the choppiness of the speedometer, I did not experience any of the bugs so far. For those who has sound problem (I had my share during the 'Colin McRae 3' days), first thing to try is reinstall your motherboard chipset driver. For most that uses onboard sound, this is likely the key. Second thing to try is to reinstall the sound card driver AFTER you uninstall it totally. AND install directx 9c after that. For Vista, I don't know cuz I don't have exp with Vista yet. If the above still doesn't solve your problem and your sound card is onboard, check to see if you can set it to use an exclusive IRQ in the bios. If it's a physical sound card, move it to another PCI slot. If you have only 1 PCI slot, sowwie. Turning OFF sound acceleration has never been an option to me as I think I bought the X-Fi FOR acceleration. If the above still doesn't solve anything, get this program and tune the latency of your soundcard so that it's LOWER than your video system: http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951 READ everything before tuning latency. It can screw up your system if you're not careful, hence the last step.
Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.22 03:40:00 - [622] Hybrid weapons and ammunition are still not calculating the appropriate (read as... any) damage bonus from the addition of ammunition. This should be very high on the priority list, it's a fundamental.
Asterisk Grat	Posted - 2007.06.22 03:46:00 - [623] Please fix the drone regions ASAP. Rat spawns are no where to be found, huge ISK loss on everyone in drone regions.
Ankanos Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.06.22 03:55:00 - [624] Edited by: Ankanos on 22/06/2007 03:53:59 minor observation. after reading all 21 pages of issues, i get the feeling that some of the logon and configuration/settings issues are due more to individual player's pc configurations and inability to follow directions than with the eve client. i wouldn't be surprised if there are a few common programs (or misconfigured windows configs) installed across all the problem pc's that are adding to the headaches. -possibly prohibiting the creation or copying of the new folders etc.. (good practice: always shutdown your virus/malware scanner when patching or installing any program after you've determined its clean (if the source is in question. also some newer firewalls are quite anal about executables modifying(patching other programs.) -make sure it will allow eve's patching process to complete it's task. bottom line. -it's been barely 2 days since the patch. give the dev team at least a week to shake down the patch before you all start passing negative judgment on CCP's ability to put out a good product. especially you new players. -you have no idea how good you have it with CCP. This is a complex patch underneath all the eye candy, -they've touched on almost all aspects of the game mechanics with all the new content, improvements, changes and yes, fixes. -for free, mind you. On top of it all, they had to add/make changes to conform with the new technology the monster known as Vista likes to shove down all our throats. So how about we keep the bugs, issues and workarounds coming full steam into this thread and leave the petty bickering over how CCP ruined your life or how you think they should have deployed the patch to a backwater post somewhere in the General Forum. lets go people, grow up and be a part of the solution, -not a part of the problem. -ank ---
Ifness Investigations	Posted - 2007.06.22 04:28:00 - [625] Sound hangs. Lag spikes.
chrisreeves Gallente Asgard Protectorate	Posted - 2007.06.22 05:45:00 - [626] First off thank you Camilo Cienfuegos and Sarrian Calda for trying to assist in the issues that I posted about in this thread asking about a fix to the cache and settings folders. The way that you explained it helped me (I think I'm pretty tech savvy) get it working for a short time. However, my settings keep getting erased. However one of my corp mates came up with a solution that I think may benefit those that are running multiple accounts as well as fix the ram drive problem. Fix for Cache/Settings folder reset as well as ram drive Please post in that thread if it helps. ----------------- Originally by: kieron The Ibis was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile. "It was empty!!"
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.06.22 06:01:00 - [627] No offense, but making the encounters "unknown" signatures has really frakked up searching out real "unknown" exploration sites. First, when you run a multispec and it shows "unknown" you have no idea if it's a real exploration site or a bunch of encounters. Then, if you decide to scan down the whole system anyways (which is tedious and expensive) it will immediately find all the encounters but you still have no idea if there's a real exploration site or not. So basically you'll have to keep running the probes over and over on the off chance there is a real exploration site there and the probes just haven't picked it up. So basically it is a huge pain in the butt to probe out real "unknown" exploration sites and I have a hard time seeing how many people are going to be willing to try. ----------------------------------------------------
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.22 06:55:00 - [628] I am surprised by the restraint shoved by people so far but: when you will say anything about the standing bug? getting 0 standing from doing missions, or 1/100 of the normal rewards will destroy the game for new players, and create problems for all of them. Borked standing gains thread in missions This is a serious issue for all people doing missions. Even worse, as the standing seem almost normal after DT or after a unplanned DT, people that can log in just after DT have an huge advantage against those that can enter the game only later.
Revan Crow Minmatar KraehenKlaue	Posted - 2007.06.22 07:47:00 - [629] Originally by: The Jackyl None of the "new" implants offered in LP stores show up on markets, won't quick-link and are not in the item database on the website. Had planned on spending some LP on implants but wold be a complete waste until I know what implants are available for which slots in the gamenow. well, at least the Cruisse missile damage "snapshot" implant works ^^
Caligulus Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.06.22 08:23:00 - [630] So how about that known issues update....and while your at it tell us why it's taking you so ******* long to update.

Deby Dallas Caldari Snake Eyes Inc Hell Hounds	Posted - 2007.06.22 09:24:00 - [631] Hiya Im haveing some trouble with taking on new members. I have taken on 6 new guys in last few days from same corp and so far ive had np setting roles for 3 of them but the last 3 to join i cant. Under the standings screen it shows the standings between my corp and thier last one. They r in my corp chat and i have accepted thier apps etc but when i right click them i get the same menu i would get if i was right clicking a player in local for example. If ive missed a psoting that explains this plz forgive me but i thought it might be related to the change on the wallet role thing from earlier.
Effei Gloom Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.22 09:27:00 - [632] one skill was replaced 2 gone, petition not answered :( - next minnie Outpost bpc me:5 available in 25 days -
Draygan	Posted - 2007.06.22 09:57:00 - [633] Fix the settings problem please. Re-doing settings everytime I log in a new character is beyond a joke and getting to the point where I'm loathed to re-new my subs until its fixed. Post Revelations II Eve is suddenly no fun anymore and fast becoming a chore just do get anything done. Any update on the hotfix patches?
Anglachel83 Caldari Shintaisei	Posted - 2007.06.22 10:35:00 - [634] Originally by: Venkul Mul I am surprised by the restraint shoved by people so far but: when you will say anything about the standing bug? getting 0 standing from doing missions, or 1/100 of the normal rewards will destroy the game for new players, and create problems for all of them. Borked standing gains thread in missions This is a serious issue for all people doing missions. Quoting whole.
Braineater Minmatar BINFORD	Posted - 2007.06.22 10:41:00 - [635] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. Bug report 39306. Eve's wonderful bughunters could not replicate this bug. :( I filed the same thing as #39142, complete with a log, and got the following reply: "We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system." What gives? ______
Draygan	Posted - 2007.06.22 11:02:00 - [636] On the tower / defences tab there are 4 boxes that need ticking to make your POS defend itself against agression or war targets. Unfortunately everytime I warp away from my towers and then return the boxes have "unticked" themselves. I've attacked my POS's using an alt corp and the POS's (despite having plenty of well-armed sentry guns) fail to return fire because of this. AFAIK this has only happened since the Rev2 patch.
Enso Serano	Posted - 2007.06.22 11:55:00 - [637] Originally by: Maglorre For everyone whining about the file locations changes, check out junctions Should be a solution for some. Works great for me on XP! Now all cached data is routing back to my game drive. WTG Maglorre for the suggestion.
Investigador Caldari Hator inc	Posted - 2007.06.22 13:36:00 - [638] Targetting sound got stuck on a loop. Tried to disable all effects with ctrl+atl+shift+t/e to no effect. Had to log off and on again. I was shooting torpedoes, and targeting NPCs on level 4 mission, on deepspace. I had ventrilo runnung with only one other person on channel. I had winamp playing music too. Game music level was at zero.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.22 13:56:00 - [639] Edited by: Winterblink on 22/06/2007 13:55:46 Originally by: Investigador Targetting sound got stuck on a loop. Tried to disable all effects with ctrl+atl+shift+t/e to no effect. Had to log off and on again. I was shooting torpedoes, and targeting NPCs on level 4 mission, on deepspace. I had ventrilo runnung with only one other person on channel. I had winamp playing music too. Game music level was at zero. Next time just hit escape and go tot he audio tab, click off the sound then click it on again. Fixes it without having to relog. (Not saying there isn't a BUG here, just that this will at least be a workaround for you) warp drive active \| nature vraie
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.22 14:01:00 - [640] Just some thoughts I had on the Heat UI, copied from that huge Thermodynamics thread. Sorry for the crosspost but it probably belongs here in the Feedback thread anyway. :) Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem isn't the requirement, its that its a part of the interface that newbies will see for 6 months before they can even use it. And that wouldn't be confusing to someone? Suddenly a primary element of the game interface changes because they trained a skill? This speaks to me as one of two things. 1. The idea of a changing interface is poorly conceived 2. The existing interface is poorly conceived Or possibly some combination of the two. Here's a thought for changing how things work. 1. Change fitting window to include a button for heat configuration (new window). There, you set which slots are set to be able to be overheated. This button is always there, but gives the user the skill requirement message when they click it. 2. The configuration window shows you how your skill affects the modules. 3. Configured slots show the green bars, others do not. Thus new players will not see any heat interface elements. 4. Rack toggles appear when a ship has been configured. There is no reconfigure on the fly, so you have to dock or use a ship maintenance array to reset your configuration. You begin overheating by clicking on a particular rack's toggle icon, deactivate when you click it again. 5. Slots which have been configured will show the indicator bar so the user can see whether something's being overheated and how much damage is taken (you have to show it SOMEhow). Slots not configured will not show the indicators. Thoughts? warp drive active \| nature vraie

MorbidPenguin Hard Corp Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.06.22 14:04:00 - [641] Originally by: Draygan Fix the settings problem please. Re-doing settings everytime I log in a new character is beyond a joke and getting to the point where I'm loathed to re-new my subs until its fixed. Post Revelations II Eve is suddenly no fun anymore and fast becoming a chore just do get anything done. Any update on the hotfix patches? Why don't you just use Eve Launcher 1.04 (google it) and this problem will go away, as it will fix the /END /LUA:OFF switches so your prefs.ini and setting stay in your CCP/EVE folder and don't migrate? This has already been answered several times, including in the patch notes themselves.... As for myself, fix the standings bug. Sucks for newbies that missions are borked. Also, the targeting sound and sometimes fitting sounds are on loops. Extremely annoying. Join in-game channel Hard-Recruiting to get signed up.
Aceoil Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.22 14:11:00 - [642] Edited by: Aceoil on 22/06/2007 14:10:35 bring back the old speedometer
Ephemeral Waves The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.22 15:20:00 - [643] Edited by: Ephemeral Waves on 22/06/2007 15:20:50 Originally by: Braineater Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Originally by: Ephemeral Waves Now anybody who tries to access any of the hangers gets a message saying they need to have take access to division 1 hanger. Bug report 39306. Eve's wonderful bughunters could not replicate this bug. :( I filed the same thing as #39142, complete with a log, and got the following reply: "We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system." What gives? I got this back this morning after re-submitting the bug report Quote: Thank you for your bugreport - ID39339 Title: Corp: Cannot access hangers divisions 2 to 7 without "take" access to Div 1. We were not aware of this problem, and have used your bugreport to create a new issue in our defect tracking system. I also got this today: Quote: Thank you for your bugreport - ID39342 Title: Usability: Camera Resets on Session Change We were not aware of this problem, and have used your bugreport to create a new issue in our defect tracking system. Isn't it nice that a bug that has been around for several months wasn't known about? And just for laughs... Quote: Thank you for your bugreport - ID39343 Title: Known Issues Page not Updated We were not aware of this problem, and have used your bugreport to create a new issue in our defect tracking system.
eleuthereus Gallente The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.22 15:42:00 - [644] CCp, Devs, GMs, I direct your attention here. People, including me, are missing loaded modules/rigs that seem to have simply disappeared from their ships in station, as well as from their hangars. Please mark this as an issue and see to it as soon as possible. Anyone else with similar problems and missing modules/rigs?? My petition has been sent. ________________________ "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is" (Whinston Churchill).
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.22 15:49:00 - [645] The bio keeps being shortened. I'm assuming there's some character limit, but it's not obvious as I can type all the old stuff back in, but it disappears when I relog. Interesting times await...
PhamNuwen Caldari Bungee Jumper	Posted - 2007.06.22 16:06:00 - [646] Originally by: Miter Here we are, after the first full workday since release. Let's run the tally: Number of issues reported here: Many Number of developers responding: 1 Number of issues addressed: 2 Number of updates to the original post: 0 Number of updates to http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp: 0 -- Great Job CCP! (at making us feel ignored) /signed ---
Scootcha	Posted - 2007.06.22 19:24:00 - [647] Edited by: Scootcha on 22/06/2007 19:23:26 Edited by: Scootcha on 22/06/2007 19:23:11 I do believe in simple ethics - You're supposed to get what you pay for and we all pay for this great game. To have the dev's completely ignore us and not even show any signs of fixing important issues that make this game PLAYABLE really upsets me. I want this damn standings issues fixed soon... I'm at the point where i need to do missions and now it's close to pointless to do so! I can't even play the game i pay for every month.
ToranagaSama	Posted - 2007.06.22 19:34:00 - [648] Edited by: ToranagaSama on 22/06/2007 19:35:38 Hello, Has anyone gotten advancedDevice=1 to work? Since patching to Rev. II I still can't change my screen to a playable resolution. I'm stuck with either 1600x1200 in Windowed mode; or 1024x728 in Full Screen mode. Neither resolution is playable. Win2000 SP4 21 inch CRT Cornerstone p1700 ATI 9700 pro Omega Drivers 3.8.33 See this thread, I'm not the only one. Wheres prefs.ini in RevII Thanks in advanced.
Inspiration	Posted - 2007.06.22 19:36:00 - [649] My ALT had an unique skill trained for smuggling. It has disapeared from the trade skills and it can't be replaced with a new one from the market. Petitioned it, very nasty of CCP to take skills away. I hope its a mistake that will be corrected soon!
Verbum Flow Caldari Caldari Elite Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.22 19:51:00 - [650] lol

Piuro	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:02:00 - [651] Originally by: Draygan Fix the settings problem please. Re-doing settings everytime I log in a new character is beyond a joke and getting to the point where I'm loathed to re-new my subs until its fixed. Post Revelations II Eve is suddenly no fun anymore and fast becoming a chore just do get anything done. Any update on the hotfix patches? If you're in Vista, just set EVE to run as administrator, that should solve your problems. The loyalty point thing is incredibly annoying, I'm bordering on the next level of missions, but cant actually cross that little edge, and am thus stuck with lower missions.
Autumn River	Posted - 2007.06.22 21:57:00 - [652] I cannot find anything with the scan probes except the encounters. What used to be a pleasant Eve-cupation has now become painful and frustrating. As a wife and mother I don't need any more of that. A.River
Brennan VanRijn	Posted - 2007.06.22 22:29:00 - [653] Anybody seen this yet? --------------------- standing bug - fix deployed tomorrow the 23rd reported by GM Ender \| 2007.06.22 17:24:08 \| NEW Greetings dear player, As you may have experienced, we have been dealing with a bug after the Revelations II launch causing no standings to be conferred upon players following missions. The cause has been found and a fix made which will be deployed during downtime tomorrow, the 23rd of June. The bad news is that we will unfortunately not be able to retroactively correct any standings following the fix, as our programmers tell us this is not possible for technical reasons. While unfortunate, we hope that our players will meet this news with the stoic composure and relaxed acceptance we have come to expect from them in the past. Best Regards - The EVE Online Team
RtoZ	Posted - 2007.06.22 23:15:00 - [654] Quick workaround for the targeting sound hang bug: press esc, uncheck then check the sound on box. Yes, it sucks, but I'm sure it will get fixed next hotpatch. As for feedback: Drones are still messed up. Undocking still ends up in a gangbang. Good work on features, love the LP store for example. Not such good work on the getting rid of old bugs. Performance is stilly laggy, but I assume that is because serverload is still not optimized. Still a ways to go. EVE atm is a game I play more because of the concept than the actual execution. Space based mmorpg with a persistant realtime unsharded universe is cool and unique. Actual execution of said concept needs a LOT of work. I hope Rev III and the new game engine will clean up all the messyness which eve still shows.
Felie Trada	Posted - 2007.06.23 00:32:00 - [655] I encounter a problem. The game put file in 'My Documents' and 'Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Application Data\CPP' even if you use "/end /LUA:OFF" in parameters to start the game. If EVE can't write in 'My Documents', for logs and capture, you will be unable to chat with other people. So, there is a way to write logs in EVE folder ?
Fastercart Gallente X Project Exile X	Posted - 2007.06.23 01:03:00 - [656] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves And just for laughs... Quote: Thank you for your bugreport - ID39343 Title: Known Issues Page not Updated We were not aware of this problem, and have used your bugreport to create a new issue in our defect tracking system. Well, they've "updated" Known Issues. Except, the only thing changed was: Quote: Build 33752 Revelations II Known Issues The rest is still from the old patch.
MorbidPenguin Hard Corp Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.06.23 01:52:00 - [657] Originally by: Fastercart Well, they've "updated" Known Issues. Except, the only thing changed was: Quote: Build 33752 Revelations II Known Issues The rest is still from the old patch. LOL. Great work CCP. A true customer service model. So, we should assume none of these bugs have been fixed and none of the reported bugs have been added? Join in-game channel Hard-Recruiting to get signed up.
Wez Drubnyeskov	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:30:00 - [658] where the frolicking toothpicks are the new mechanical engineering agents ?
Oriarses	Posted - 2007.06.23 05:46:00 - [659] Curently running around in rev 2 and i have to say i like everything thats gone in so far ... and have had few tech issues. My only complaint is this Heat thats been added. Why add a function adds to the UI clutter in eve which requires everyone to train skills such as energy management 5. surely something that ALWAYS on the client even when you start the game should ALWAYS be usuable from the start of the game. Shouldnt the heat Ui only come online when you have the needed skills to over heat modules or better yet should overheat perhaps have no reqs to run but the thermodynamics skill (by the way love the description) makes it run better ? you should at least consider dropping the energy management skill to level 4 or 3.
StarRanger 3rdClass Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.06.23 08:48:00 - [660] Seems the View Application has been lost. I can't find it any more as it was normally under the Members List when you right-clicked a member. As I am a director of the corporation I need the ability to review an application as it holds vital information about why people join or identify themselves as an alt of a member that is already in my corporation. Please put this option back in CCP

Dexter Grim Caldari Shogo Mobile Armor Division	Posted - 2007.06.23 09:01:00 - [661] My mobile labs still list all the decryptors I previously had in there, even after they have been used up many days ago. Space Corps Directive #349 Any officer found to have been slaughtered and replaced by a shape-changing chameleonic life form shall forfeit all pension rights.
Splendix	Posted - 2007.06.23 10:15:00 - [662] Edited by: Splendix on 23/06/2007 10:14:11 Belts in drone region are horrible. Spread out like ice fields but with alot less roids. Sometimes there are just 2 roids over an area of 20km? Furthermore, no rats in a system with 13 belts, not even at the gate and I'm the only one ratting.
Amerie Konda	Posted - 2007.06.23 17:40:00 - [663] Mechanical Engineering Agents? Anyone?
Stephar The High Priest	Posted - 2007.06.23 21:42:00 - [664] I'm having to strain my eyes to see if my modules are active or not. That's my only complaint.
Vlajko san	Posted - 2007.06.24 01:29:00 - [665] Originally by: Stephar I'm having to strain my eyes to see if my modules are active or not. That's my only complaint. Same here, I'm never sure is module active or not.
xS0u1zx	Posted - 2007.06.24 02:04:00 - [666] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Ashkevron That folder won't grow all that large. It's just the game logs and screenshots and portraits and some config data. However, the client should have code to sense that it's not on Vista and not copy the files. If they want their game branded under the "Games for Windows" and to get a Vista Certified sticker. They have to comply to certain things. At least it's just a folder with sub folders, and not something cluttering your document folder. It can grow large easily if I do many screenshots, keep combat logs, chat a lot, and so on... And I want to have these under THE game folder where I have installed the game, not under some stupid My Documents folder on another partition. What if I need to swap my hard drives from time to time? By keeping the game settings and whatever to the game folder only, I don't have to remember to copy freaking EVE folder from My Documents too (if I want to keep my screenshots, chatlogs, etc.). And "just a folder with sub folders" in the place where I don't want to have it, is not a "just folder". CCP, gimme the freaking option to decide for myself. How about this, stop being a damn baby, copy and pasting takes what not even a minute. gives you a roll of toilet paper now wipe your tears and stop complaining.
TeaDaze GTE Corp	Posted - 2007.06.24 02:24:00 - [667] Originally by: xS0u1zx Originally by: Pastora It can grow large easily if I do many screenshots, keep combat logs, chat a lot, and so on... And I want to have these under THE game folder where I have installed the game, not under some stupid My Documents folder on another partition. What if I need to swap my hard drives from time to time? By keeping the game settings and whatever to the game folder only, I don't have to remember to copy freaking EVE folder from My Documents too (if I want to keep my screenshots, chatlogs, etc.). And "just a folder with sub folders" in the place where I don't want to have it, is not a "just folder". CCP, gimme the freaking option to decide for myself. How about this, stop being a damn baby, copy and pasting takes what not even a minute. gives you a roll of toilet paper now wipe your tears and stop complaining. I'm glad I can fix all issues with running the live client / test client / multiple alts / work machines / slow or full system drives etc by a minutes cut and paste. Thanks for the helpful suggestion.
Trelaine CAD Inc. Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.24 02:54:00 - [668] Hey anyone know why the Mechanical Engineering Agents still haven't shown up for Gallente? or why it's not in the Known Issues/Bugs section? ---------------
Anticon Chor	Posted - 2007.06.24 02:55:00 - [669] I've got 2 problems with Rev 2: (1) for those of us with less than perfect vision, the new green colouration for active modules in the flight UI is inadequate - I can't tell whether modules are active or not without hovering the mouse pointer; and (2) we really need a "Loyalty Points" page in, say, our Journal, so we can log all LPs with each corp in one easily accessible place. As it is now, you have to run all over the universe to find your LPs with each corp and then - err, write them down on a piece of paper. _____________________________ Who, me? A signature? Really?
Aneis	Posted - 2007.06.24 03:14:00 - [670] Thought I'd chime in with my few gripes. For the most part, though, I am quite pleased. 1. Heat management UI is pretty awful. On my particular configuration, on my monitor, I have a 7-pixel high space to click to overload a particular module. Shift-clicking the module would be a lot better. 2. Thanks to (nearly) every module having a green component drawn atop it, I find it very difficult to tell at a glance which modules are active. It was already a little tough before, since modules pulsated instead of stayed solid (so your glance had to be for at least 1 pulse length). But now? It's nearly impossible to tell without looking at some modules for a second or two. 3. I just had some Praetor IIs not MWD back to my ship. It seems this will never be fixed. 4. Speed display is jerky. 5. Why oh why have the Power and CPU consumption indicators on the main UI been removed? Now I have to "Show Info" to see how much CPU I have left w/ my current fitting. There's plenty of room before the L/M/H heat area to put this information. 6. I can still click through the overview. I was so excited about this being fixed, too : ( 7. I'm still pretty ****y about having to use the F11 screen, which takes up 1/6 of my screen space, just so I can see what my scan cone is. Why did this get pulled off the system scanner window? 8. 30 seconds for the nub-sploration sites is fine for now, but will be too long if you decide to remove static belts. 9. I have map animation turned off. So why does it animate when I go to the map? Takes several seconds, which is sometimes far too long. 99. I don't understand why drone management is still done via a right-click context menu. I wish we could just have attack/return buttons draggable and placeable on our hotkeys just like mods.

Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:51:00 - [671] I can't see my modules active or not. They all too dime to understand it's activity :( I'm not that 15-years old crazy fan with hulk eyes. Can You PLEASE lighten background at least TWICE and use only CENTER to pulse activity, and keep border at the same color? -- .
Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.24 06:16:00 - [672] Possible bug, or un-intended situation. It seems all NPC's have had their hitpoints upgraded, by a rather large amount. Was this intentional? Mistake? Or am I totally FUBAR the last couple of days? It's taking my Blaster Boat, with very good Blaster Oriented skills, and 7 top of the line Blasters, longer to kill a BS than my Drone Domi was doing before Rev 2.0. Any answer would be wonderful.
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:02:00 - [673] Originally by: Armadaus Baldwin It seems all NPC's have had their hitpoints upgraded, by a rather large amount. Was this intentional? Mistake? Or am I totally FUBAR the last couple of days? It sounds like already explained issue with no ship bonuses applied to guns. Please check it. -- .
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:07:00 - [674] Originally by: Vlajko san Originally by: Stephar I'm having to strain my eyes to see if my modules are active or not. That's my only complaint. Same here, I'm never sure is module active or not. The change in the module display is terrible. Asthe number of modules and active modules increase, especially for active shield thanking ships, where you can have 2 row of module active, it is almost impossible to see what is active and what now at first glance. The pulsating green color create both a persistent image when you move your attention from a module to another and a halo. Both are perception illusion, but as that is how the human brain work they can't be avoided. The existance of a green bar above every module increase the effect. As most combat happens with a bright backreound (EVE space is full of nebules) it become even harder to detect what module are active and what not. The only workarouynd (it is not a solution) is to hoover the pointer over the module icon to see the status, but even then it is difficult to see it at first glance as now there are 2 different active/inactive status (module and overload). All the above eat time in combat, slowing the player reactions, as he need to check things that with the old interface he could see with a rapid glance. So you need to address multiple points: module activation: the color should be easily visible against any background. Testing it against a solid black background is not the system to see if it is cleary visible;
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:21:00 - [675] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Armadaus Baldwin It seems all NPC's have had their hitpoints upgraded, by a rather large amount. Was this intentional? Mistake? Or am I totally FUBAR the last couple of days? It sounds like already explained issue with no ship bonuses applied to guns. Please check it. Where, please?
Tonto Auri Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.06.24 08:59:00 - [676] Edited by: Tonto Auri on 24/06/2007 08:58:30 Originally by: Venkul Mul It sounds like already explained issue with no ship bonuses applied to guns. Please check it. Where, please? In attributes of fitted guns, compare it to original, unfitted gun. They all should have all Your boost from skills and bonuses. Hope You know how to use calculator... EDIT: cleaned quotes a bit. -- .
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.24 09:54:00 - [677] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 24/06/2007 09:53:15 Originally by: Tonto Auri Edited by: Tonto Auri on 24/06/2007 08:58:30 Originally by: Venkul Mul It sounds like already explained issue with no ship bonuses applied to guns. Please check it. Where, please? In attributes of fitted guns, compare it to original, unfitted gun. They all should have all Your boost from skills and bonuses. Hope You know how to use calculator... EDIT: cleaned quotes a bit. Re-phrasing the question. There is a thread/post about the guns not using the ship bonus? Could you put up a link as searching for guns-ship-bonus give 50 pages of unrelated posts?
Hugh Hefner Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.06.24 10:52:00 - [678] Not being able to sort the search-results by date even is laughable, if un-related to this topic.
Culsotu2 Danish Space bees	Posted - 2007.06.24 12:14:00 - [679] Edited by: Culsotu2 on 24/06/2007 12:14:45 Things after RevII: 1. Awfull hanging and missing sound problems. -have to disable-enable sound setting constantly to reset sound. 2. Dont understand why people with no overheating skills have to see the green bars in modules in UI. 3. The planet edges still flicker. -but im glad that the planet rings dont flicker anymore. 4. Sad to see most of the static DED's are gone/moved/made for exploration only. ...other than that Im happy with RevII. Specially the LP Store system, and the direct "view marked detail" link via items in sellorder list.
Quildar	Posted - 2007.06.24 12:55:00 - [680] Originally by: Pilok **fly Originally by: Quildar hello.... I havent been able to login at all since the patch went live when the launcher starts up, it crashes again within the next 10 secs and its getting worse If i want to play the game i have to Reinstall the entire game and login, whitch can only be done once, and then the crashes starts once again.... Anyone else have this client problem ? and if so, what can be done to fix it ? H E L P ! Wild guess. Try deleting the files in c:\documents and settings\[your name]\my documents and in c:\documents and settings\[your name]\local settings (i deleted those and they never came back) Hope this helps Nothing seems to help on this issue, it keeps shotting down the client everytime i try to login, again, the client "only" works after a fresh install, but as soon as i logout, its not possible to login again Again H E L P !

Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.24 14:10:00 - [681] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Armadaus Baldwin It seems all NPC's have had their hitpoints upgraded, by a rather large amount. Was this intentional? Mistake? Or am I totally FUBAR the last couple of days? It sounds like already explained issue with no ship bonuses applied to guns. Please check it. Hey smart one. I'm the one who reported the original problem with skills, ammunition and weapons. I already know about it. That problem, still doesn't explain the Hit Point upgrade that NPC's have received. Learn to read/parse a log, then come back and try sounding superior. In no way, shape, or form should a fully Cap Drained NPC be able to absorb over 27k damage total, pre Rev 2.0, now it's happening rather consistently. Tied in with the major bugs about guns and damage bonus applied right now, is a rather severe problem that CCP has yet to address.
Brainpd	Posted - 2007.06.24 14:40:00 - [682] Edited by: Brainpd on 24/06/2007 14:39:27 Issues: - You will not receive a mail about ship insurance expiration until u open the insurance tab. - /end /UAL:OFF works for remembering which vidcard to use for which screen, but offc no one is happy about the vista compliant issue that everything MUST be stored in the user profile prohibiting settings for multiple users - Using green heat indicators on green flashing modules on a green background where the ammo pic is so big that it is already hard to see if the module is on or off is pretty annoying. can easy be solved by decreasing the ammo picture by 20% (pretty please ?) and make the heat indicator bright purple when switched on and very dark purple when off. - The other issue is offc that the heat-on clickable part is VERY small, not to mention (noticed this several times) that during pvp I click on 'heat-on' rather then 'module-on' because I click FAST and then u tend to hit the edge of a module. ctrl+click or shift+click on a module for heat would be ALOT better. - The LP shop needs fixing for a bunch of offers. f.i. faction plating. I can buy that for 500k isk or maybe 1mil but the LP shop want 120!!! insignia's that's pretty crazy. 5x bpc on faction plating 420 insignia's !!!!! It's the same story as with salvage, took 3 patches to get the amounts correct. - Can normal battleships be put back into the LP shop again ? I grant u that it should not be 40k LP and 55k LP for tier 1 and tier 2 bs, but 80k LP and 110k LP and the same building materials as before would at least put em back in there. - Boosters are still misunderstood imho and therefor not used. Maybe someone can explain how they actually work and make em BLOODY EASIER TO GET. (eventho with heat and rigs, it's a bit overzealous to have em in game anywayz)
Donna Karen	Posted - 2007.06.24 14:43:00 - [683] Originally by: Aneis 4. Speed display is jerky. 5. Why oh why have the Power and CPU consumption indicators on the main UI been removed? Now I have to "Show Info" to see how much CPU I have left w/ my current fitting. There's plenty of room before the L/M/H heat area to put this information. 6. I can still click through the overview. I was so excited about this being fixed, too : ( complete agreement on these specifics
Armadaus Baldwin	Posted - 2007.06.24 17:00:00 - [684] Graphics are also massively borked, spatially mainly. I'm approaching an acceleration gate. Well, it says I'm only 500 meters from it, yet it still looks to be 5-10 kilometers away.
SillyWaif	Posted - 2007.06.24 19:16:00 - [685] It would be great if CCP would read these post and pick up a suggestion here and there: post 676, post 680, post 688. The module icons are just too 'complicated'. For instance start with removing with all the superfluous lines in them : the ones near the edges (modules) or in the speed indicator. They serve no practical purpose. And as indicated the whole green mess makes me miss activating a module sometimes :(
Miter	Posted - 2007.06.25 05:06:00 - [686] Well, shame on CCP for not updating this thread's OP, a poor update to the Known Issues page, a poor decision on where to store client data.... But extreme kudos to the EvE user community, especially to the kind soul (Pilk!) who posted a batch file that will keep client data under the EVE install directory(ies), allowing the use of multiple clients on one machine, keeping all data off of a possibly slow, possibly full, possibly company owned system disk! Link to magic counteracting the poor decision to move data around for a silly Microsoft Gaming Logo Certification :(
NebulaSurfer Amarr White Star Corporation Gemini Federation	Posted - 2007.06.25 06:04:00 - [687] Originally by: CCP kieron The Dev team is aware of the issues players are facing with missing Loyalty Points and are working on resolution. We consider this a high priority issue. It is not necessary to submit a petition for missing loyalty points at this time. This has been resolved, all loyalty points now appear in their proper quantities. er...so far i'm still missing 400k worth of loyalty points with amarr navy...i've filed a petition and added another followup message to it..till yesterday, i've yet to receive any feedback and/or any restoration of LPs... it wouldn't be much of an issue in other conditions but that 400k worth of LP will enable me to purchase the Navy Apoc that i've been planning for so long... it was hard earned LPs from level 3 missions alone and it took me a good 2 months to get those... i hope that this issue will be looked into and not left as it is as stated in my quote above... Neb
Dizzhar Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.25 06:32:00 - [688] Originally by: Venkul Mul The change in the module display is terrible. As the number of modules and active modules increase, especially for active shield thanking ships, where you can have 2 row of module active, it is almost impossible to see what is active and what now at first glance. The pulsating green color create both a persistent image when you move your attention from a module to another and a halo. Both are perception illusion, but as that is how the human brain work they can't be avoided. The existance of a green bar above every module increase the effect. As most combat happens with a bright backreound (EVE space is full of nebules) it become even harder to detect what module are active and what not. The only workaround (it is not a solution) is to hoover the pointer over the module icon to see the status, but even then it is difficult to see it at first glance as now there are 2 different active/inactive status (module and overload). All the above eat time in combat, slowing the player reactions, as he need to check things that with the old interface he could see with a rapid glance. So you need to address multiple points: module activation: - the color should be easily visible against any background. Testing it against a solid black background is not the system to see if it is cleary visible; - to avoid the halo effect the moule icon should have a clear border in a contrasting color. It is a perception effect and the only system to avoid it is a clear system to delimitate it. Overload marker: - it should be in a different color from that of the activated module even when it is inactive. Using a color too similar increase the confusion. Mosule status: - when checking the module status hoovering with the pointer over the module, the active/inactive status for the module and overloadm should be further apart. If possible they should have a different color from the rest of the text (green for inactive/red for active?). Please address it. I fully agree with all these points. It's to dmn hard to see what state a module is in.
Necrocavus Caldari Necrons NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.06.25 09:48:00 - [689] I still cannot use F1, F2, F3, etc keys to fire my missiles on my drake. Plz fix it soon.
Dionisius Gallente Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.25 10:30:00 - [690] The modules are very very bad to check for visibility, its hard to distinguish a active from an inactive module. There is a bit of laaaaag pretty much anywere you go, and the overload toggle button could be better placed. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire. thats a

Evelyn Edonbald	Posted - 2007.06.25 14:30:00 - [691] 'Heat' thing is bugged. 1. When overheated module finishes its first cycle, other modules in the rack start taking damage immediately. Overheat indicator was only at 4% when this happened. Thus, damage from overheat is unavoidable. 2. Overheating module doesn't take damage, all other modules in the rack (not overheated and inactive) do. I have not tested this with actually overheated rack (kinda hard to reach 100% overheating if your modules start to die at 4%) If this is a bug, please fix it. If it works as intended, then 'heat' is useless.
Cistja	Posted - 2007.06.25 16:20:00 - [692] Here is one that I never had before the patch, don't know if it has been mentioned to many posts to read. Technological secrets (3 of 3) level 3 just did it and I got a mission complete after the first wave not the second wave. Same mission I got four ship wreck icons showing up yellow saying that someone else had killed them but I was the only one doing the mission all on my lonesome with no one else in sight. When I looted them I did not get the red warning just the message saying they did not belong to me.
Edu Journeyman Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:07:00 - [693] Sound started to be like was before Rev II after the several unscheduled reboots in the weekend. Opening a wreck freezes the screen for 2-3 seconds, same happens when it close after you dragged the loot. This is happening after the unscheduled reboots only, was not happening in the last week after Revelations expansion launch. BTW, I use Realtek AC97 onboard sound, was really a pain before Rev II and it turned to be the same after the unscheduled reboot, this is important to say again because the sound, except for the loop of the locking sound, was clean and great in the week after Rev II. I hope all this will be fixed, among other issues. Finaly, I want to ask, please, update the "know issues page" Best regards Be your journeys long and prosperous. Treat the others as you like to be treated. Rude and fool are enemies.
Quildar	Posted - 2007.06.25 23:08:00 - [694] so, is it possible to get any words from the devs/staff or did they go on vacation?
solbright altaltalt	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:54:00 - [695] Originally by: Quildar so, is it possible to get any words from the devs/staff or did they go on vacation? This is a bug collection thread. The only response would be thankyou.
solbright altaltalt	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:56:00 - [696] If you have a specific problem, like stuck on a jumpgate and can't login, then petition it.
Je720	Posted - 2007.06.26 11:16:00 - [697] I have been thinking about the introduction of heat into the game and it dawned on me that drones are the only class of weapons that do not benefit from the addition of heat. And since I play Gallente and this is my main weapon, I feel at a disadvantage to races which primarily use module weapons. The difference will not be immediate because it will take a while for everyone to get the thermodynamics skill due to the steep requirements, but I think it will result in an unintentional disadvantage for most Gallente ships. Was this an intentional nerf or just something that you over looked? Would a drone overload be a good solution?
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.26 12:36:00 - [698] Originally by: Je720 I have been thinking about the introduction of heat into the game and it dawned on me that drones are the only class of weapons that do not benefit from the addition of heat. And since I play Gallente and this is my main weapon, I feel at a disadvantage to races which primarily use module weapons. The difference will not be immediate because it will take a while for everyone to get the thermodynamics skill due to the steep requirements, but I think it will result in an unintentional disadvantage for most Gallente ships. Was this an intentional nerf or just something that you over looked? Would a drone overload be a good solution? You can add that faction drones don't exist, while faction ammunition will become common as it is now readily available from LP shops. On the other hand overloading the drones, even if it will kill them, can be very powerful for the ships with a big drone bay and the capacity or replacing them multiple times. T1 drones have a very low price, so they will become essentially throw away single use weapons.
Slythought Sly Inc	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:26:00 - [699] Edited by: Slythought on 26/06/2007 15:25:01 Green is apoor choice for notifying the activation of heat overload... Why not use the common colors for heat.. Blue = cold (or inactive) Orange = Warming/Cooling (When Active, and inactive after being active) Red = Hot (Damage) That makes sense to me, leaving flashing green for module activation. -------- Yes ... I am an alt...get over it!
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.26 15:28:00 - [700] Edited by: Kua Immortal on 26/06/2007 15:26:35 When will the new hardwiring be made available to buy and sell on the market and via contracts?

Scipio Africanas	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:29:00 - [701] InterBus LP store??? anyone??? just because they dont't own a station doesnt mean that my 200k+ LP should now be lost in the void because of this new patch. that is a lot of hard work, and I want to see that all of that effort was not simply wasted.
Arath Gor Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:57:00 - [702] It's almost impossible to play this game any more! Too much lag - sound totally ****** up, and the NPCs have advantage because of this terrible lag. Is it just me, or are missions now dull and tedious because of this? Or has this always been so f..ed up? I thought speed issues had been the major problem that should have been fixed with RevII, but there is less speed and more lag since D-day, now a week ago, and the sound is still f..ed up, the lag is even more now than before, and issues like "no standings" get fixed almost right away. I think that lag and game play should have priority over some standings, because without the players, the standings have no meaning. -------- Doing my own business, where ever I can. Reykjavik is a party town. I don't party - I EVE. "Censorship is the weapon of the narrow minded." ~ Arath Gor
Susi Queue	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:55:00 - [703] Ok, so I guess maybe I posted this in the wrong forum previously...in any case, I'd really like to know if this is a known issue, if it's being worked on, or what. I've petitioned to no avail, as well. When I attempt to create a new character, I get all the way through the character design process, hit create character, the progress bar fills to 100%...and then it just stays there. I've let this go for as much as 30 minutes before giving up. The new character is never created. Please, can I get some sort of response to this?
Susi Queue	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:09:00 - [704] well, when I tried to edit my last post to add this, it told me the thread didn't exist anymore, so...here we go: I should mention that I have installed the EVE client on a number of different machines, and two different operating systems, which suggests the problem isn't on my end.
solbright altaltalt	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:16:00 - [705] Originally by: Susi Queue When I attempt to create a new character, I get all the way through the character design process, hit create character, the progress bar fills to 100%...and then it just stays there. I've let this go for as much as 30 minutes before giving up. The new character is never created. Could be this - Disconnections during new character creation
Susi Queue	Posted - 2007.06.27 12:37:00 - [706] Unfortunately not, it never disconnects...it just sits there. But thanks for giving me something to check!
Van Burren	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:21:00 - [707] 2 problems: 1) on Amarr stations, there is an ambient "choir". When I mouse-hover any button - and a small "click" sound goes - this "choir" stops and starts once again. Sound Bug? 2) game freezes (for several minutes) and a lot of de-syncing. Even in a system with 4-6 ships. This wasn't until Revelations 2. Bad, bad programming, CCP (and even worse public relations).
Tipz NexAstrum Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.06.27 18:03:00 - [708] Quote: # Meta versions of the mining upgrade and ice harvester upgrade are now available dropped in loot by certain entities. Nobody on TQ has seen these, make it a known issue or take it out of the patch notes. Stop getting our hopes up. -------------------------------------------
Fire Wizard	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:20:00 - [709] Where are the Mechanical Engineering agents at? In a station? Outside in a ship jumping from gate to gate always eluding me?
solbright altaltalt	Posted - 2007.06.27 22:35:00 - [710] Originally by: Susi Queue Unfortunately not, it never disconnects...it just sits there. That's correct. It doesn't report a disconnect for me either. But it is disconnected, just the client doesn't know about it.

Barwinius Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.06.28 21:24:00 - [711] I still cannot issue sell orders...
tina townend	Posted - 2007.06.29 07:28:00 - [712] Has anyone else had constant locking noise after running mission.not checked the other posts to check
solbright altaltalt	Posted - 2007.06.29 15:41:00 - [713] Originally by: tina townend Has anyone else had constant locking noise after running mission.not checked the other posts to check 99% of players in Eve don't notice that sound stopped working with Rev2 since they have sound disable anyway. Makes Eve faster and make TS clearer for all.
Shinjuro Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.06.29 17:35:00 - [714] After clicking on the eve icon, the Revalations II screen comes up, after a few seconds that screen goes black, and does not change. I have reinstalled eve 4 times now to no avail.
per Caldari Rytiri Lva Blade.	Posted - 2007.06.29 17:55:00 - [715] my minimap(F11) isnt working and end up with client crash -------------------------------------------------- CZ
Deelenneah Heigoh Gallente Serenity and Unicum Hungarian Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.30 10:03:00 - [716] After the patch I cant start the client on windows vista. its working fine under XP, but on vista its always crashes. I couldn't even log in on vista after the patch. In the history file a found this: 2007.06.30 09:30:00SHUTDOWN [3720]Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:\Users\(Username)\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\#crash b33752 2007.06.30 09.29.59.dmp The 2 following text is always the same: Crashed 0xC0000005 and #crash b33752 Anyone has the same problem? I already reinstalled the client, and before deleted all settings directory. What else should I try?
Tsubasa Hikaru	Posted - 2007.06.30 12:16:00 - [717] Originally by: Deelenneah Heigoh After the patch I cant start the client on windows vista. its working fine under XP, but on vista its always crashes. I couldn't even log in on vista after the patch. In the history file a found this: 2007.06.30 09:30:00SHUTDOWN [3720]Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:\Users\(Username)\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\#crash b33752 2007.06.30 09.29.59.dmp The 2 following text is always the same: Crashed 0xC0000005 and #crash b33752 Anyone has the same problem? I already reinstalled the client, and before deleted all settings directory. What else should I try? Thanks to another game I finaly get over this problem. Not the Eve client was making the error. The stupid X-fire client make the EVE crashes (and other games too, but they write an errorlog, from which I can understand that the x-fire client making the fuss)
Vir Hellnamin Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.01 08:29:00 - [718] Originally by: CCP kieron A new item has been added to the Exploits category of the patch notes: Character biographies have been shortened from 4,000 characters to 1,000 characters. This is fix an exploit where players would create lag for others when biography data was sent to other players. Kieron/and Dev: could you explain when are the bio's loaded? On initial jump-in to system? Or, when someone clicks the Show Info or something else? I get the idea of lagging out servers by accessing one-pilot-by-one everyone else's bio, but why the heck are the bios loaded automatically, portraits are not... (well they would cause client side lag ;). -- V.H. "Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi, Gradient [GRD]
Mysticaa Gallente Fringe Roamers of Goa	Posted - 2007.07.01 16:57:00 - [719] Any ETA on when the new Mechanical Engineering Agents will be available? The Gallente ones still do not show and I would really love to start them ----------------------------------------------- Why do I post here? Originally by: Tao Han "TANK CEO!!!" Quick Wrangler, to the Banmobile!!! Sig snatched by Xorus
Delerium Primus M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.01 23:27:00 - [720] PVP is very 'touch and go' right now due to the 'desync' word that is being banded about. Ive been on the end of these 3 times in the last 2 days (twice lost ships due to it). This was never a problem in any magnitude prior to rev 2. Only ever seen this in big fleet fights with 3-400 in system. The 3 fights i had recently were 100, 20 and 20 in system so not really the same..... Hostiles confirmed it wasnt just me getting this problem too. Have submitted a bug report and asked them to do the same. Del

Princess Euphoria	Posted - 2007.07.02 04:47:00 - [721] Originally by: Delerium Primus PVP is very 'touch and go' right now due to the 'desync' word that is being banded about. Ive been on the end of these 3 times in the last 2 days (twice lost ships due to it). This was never a problem in any magnitude prior to rev 2. Only ever seen this in big fleet fights with 3-400 in system. The 3 fights i had recently were 100, 20 and 20 in system so not really the same..... Hostiles confirmed it wasnt just me getting this problem too. Have submitted a bug report and asked them to do the same. Del Agreed, it seems something went terribly wrong with their "need for speed" feature. Revelations II client is the laggiest client ever, and it seems the server side has gone worse as well
Locin WeEda Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.02 05:53:00 - [722] Bug/issue with corporate contracts on behalf of a division: * payment for the contract ends up in the master wallet, not the wallet division the contract was created on behalf on * there is no easy way to identify from the master wallet journal which division income results from (or which contract).
MsMephistopheles Gallente Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.02 07:11:00 - [723] Congratulations CCP on a great update to the game. Love the new content..Although I would like it more if I could, Oh I don't know play the **** game. I have 4 accounts and can only partialy play 1, since none of my setting are saved. And the 1 account I can play has horrendous (sp) lag on a regular basis. And before I start trying to implement code that people post to try and fix my problems answer this question..Why do I have to try and fix a game that I pay to play, when you screwed it up?. Still love the game even though If I could afford to come to fanfest I probably would buy you a beer just to throw it at you..
Celestra Ambrose Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.02 08:39:00 - [724] Its been 2 weeks since Rev2. So are we going to get a patch to fix some of this stuff or what? Anyone know an ETA for a fix on: Dysync bug Settings bug Bio bug 3 of my 4 accounts remain inactive until they're fixed.... setting long skills and saving $45 ftw!
Soeniss Delazur	Posted - 2007.07.02 10:09:00 - [725] Edited by: Soeniss Delazur on 02/07/2007 10:08:50 Hi Few things I¦ve daily experienced after RevII: - general in-game lag - lag when dragging objects from wrecks - frozen local chat channel - scooping drones leave empty box in drone in local space - the sound hangs when dragging objects or when targetting - being hit by NPC missiles after I killed them (visible in the game logs) - problem with distances. Starting at an acc gate (0km) heading to a distant wreck (40 km). After 2 minutes, I was at 35 km from the wreck and still 0km from the gate??? Either: - you test your releases - you patch your release, two weeks time is too late
Pinco Pez Wolfington Labs	Posted - 2007.07.02 14:09:00 - [726] Originally by: RtoZ I hope Rev III and the new game engine will clean up all the messyness which eve still shows. Please CCP no more patches. The game is screwed up but still playable.
Kastman Gallente FinFleet	Posted - 2007.07.04 02:01:00 - [727] Having problems with the arch exploration plexes cant salvage Angel Derelict "spawn containers" it only says: 2007.07.04 01:44:52 Notify You cannot do that. The module you use on the Spawn Container needs to have the following in its skill requirements: Salvaging. or 2007.07.04 01:56:25 Notify You cannot access the Angel Derelict without specialized equipment an i got salvaging, hacking and archeolagy skills and analyzer, salvager and codebreaker on the ship.
Grendel Marqun Caldari Ex Coelis	Posted - 2007.07.04 02:47:00 - [728] Patched the game via autopatch, and now get 10 minutes of playtime before the desynchs start. Second desynch ends in a crash to desktop. Every time. I've changed NOTHING except for the required Eve patch.
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.09 03:55:00 - [729] corporations cannot set standings towards individual characters. the corporation ui only allows searching for corporations and alliances, and show info will only set standings for player-to-player, player-to-corporation, and corporation-to-corporation. --gordo
Overmaster Minmatar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.07.14 19:23:00 - [730] So, how do we get the Anti-Aliasing options back? I'm building a new system next week. I will want my AA.

BlackKnight Minmatar The Nine Gates Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.17 22:38:00 - [731] I am having an issue with the overview, even after the most recent patch. Following the first patch, my "player created and saved" overview settings would not load, and hostiles would not show up in the overview. Additionally. hostiles would not be properly tagged in the "Local" channel. After today's patch, I am still unable to load my own overview settings. I even tried to delete the old ones and create new ones, as well as modifying the "Standard" overview setting, saving it to a different name and then trying to load it. Any ideas? My OS is Windows XP Pro. TIA, BK
mjuka	Posted - 2007.07.23 12:10:00 - [732] After the latest "minipatch" the game randomly crashes to desktop. It takes from 1 to 30min but it always happens eventually. No error messages, window just closes. Ive changed nothing since Rev2 (it acutually worked then) not so much anymore. Sound disabled or enabled makes no difference.
Varji	Posted - 2007.07.23 14:17:00 - [733] Originally by: mjuka After the latest "minipatch" the game randomly crashes to desktop. It takes from 1 to 30min but it always happens eventually. No error messages, window just closes. Ive changed nothing since Rev2 (it acutually worked then) not so much anymore. Sound disabled or enabled makes no difference. I would like to report the same problem on two seperate computers.......both xp, started happening today but I can not stay on for longer than 10 minutes without a crash back to the loggin client. possibly connection related, but WOW is working fine for me...maybe I will move the lap top to a hot spot and see if it happens there.
Ethaet Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.24 17:14:00 - [734] Edited by: Ethaet on 24/07/2007 17:16:47 I have randomly crashed to desktop twice so far. Also, the cached character portraits are lost every time I log in and I need to recache them. Just logged in again and all my settings have been lost (AGAIN!) and none of my cache backups will restore them.
Guhli Dawn of a new Empire Pure.	Posted - 2007.07.24 17:35:00 - [735] crashing to desktop whenever I buy something on the market. With clicking th ok button EvE closes down. [/url]
BigEejit Gallente UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.24 17:39:00 - [736] Originally by: Ethaet Edited by: Ethaet on 24/07/2007 17:16:47 I have randomly crashed to desktop twice so far. Also, the cached character portraits are lost every time I log in and I need to recache them. Just logged in again and all my settings have been lost (AGAIN!) and none of my cache backups will restore them. I have the very same problem, makes ratting in my Domi VERY problematic ... I think its time for a reinstall /me shakes fist at stupid patch

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.07.24 17:41:00 - [737] Please post the patch feedback for Revelations 2.1 in this thread. Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ



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