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Jastra
Gallente Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:23:00 -
[121]
really really really bad idea CCP, really, really bad :(
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Nordhaus
Industrial Services INC
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:23:00 -
[122]
I hope that the devs will reconsider this idea after you see the amount of anger this will create.
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James Damar
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:23:00 -
[123]
I've never complained about CCP everything I see as a evolvement of the game an enrichment, a new challenge.
But this just seems idiotic, sorry CCP but this is just not smart, I really don't see contracts as a solution for all that the sell forum is used for. Please please please reconsider this.
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evil's toy
horizons GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:24:00 -
[124]
Edited by: evil''s toy on 21/08/2007 14:24:38 this idea is so hated the forum can even keep up the page count. it's still stuck at 2
edit pttf just as i post it works fine
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:26:00 -
[125]
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Chribba I have a forum at evelocal.com, not sure if that is what is needed but it has been a part of my "new"/"unfinished" site for long, maybe it is a good time to show it now heh.
I take it that's something custom coded? Why not use vB / IPB. Would look / work a lot better imo.
The reason it is not vB/IPB or any other more or less standard forum is because it has been integrated with the rest of the site, so yes custom code that messes it all up
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Huan CK
Gallente Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:26:00 -
[126]
All that this step is gonna change is: Someone will make a new unofficial trade forum on another website (like chribba ;) ) and everyone will use that one instead. So, if the goal was to get rid of trade forums in favor of contracts, you will utterly fail. Everyone will use an "unofficial" trade forum instead. So why not just keep it? If the goal is to reduce server-load and database load, why not just tell the truth?
Either there is more behind this than you admit or you are completely out of your mind, CCP.
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omen.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:26:00 -
[127]
BURN CCP DOWN BURN THEM TO THE GROUND ARRRRR ARRRRRRRR
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Dark Guardian
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:27:00 -
[128]
If contracts were as flexible as the Sell/Buy/Trade forums, then it might make sense to close them.
Unfortunately, they're not that flexible yet, and probably never will be.
Will buy/sell/trade posts be ok to post in Market Discussion? Will people who are actually interested in Market Discussion (without actual trading) be able to ignore those posts easily?
I admit that I've never really used the B/S/T forums myself, but I'm NOT near playing the higher-end game where it'd be very useful.
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ZaKma
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:28:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: ZaKma
Originally by: Chribba I have a forum at evelocal.com, not sure if that is what is needed but it has been a part of my "new"/"unfinished" site for long, maybe it is a good time to show it now heh.
I take it that's something custom coded? Why not use vB / IPB. Would look / work a lot better imo.
The reason it is not vB/IPB or any other more or less standard forum is because it has been integrated with the rest of the site, so yes custom code that messes it all up
Well, you could build the site around the forum, instead of custom coding a whole new forum.
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Mercade
Coerce Inc O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:30:00 -
[130]
Really?
Contract system still sucks the big wazoo. You can't look at old contracts, can't really browse them, can't really use them for lots of things that were being sold in the forums. If the contracts system was more like eBay then perhaps I could see this, allow us to sell anything anywhere etc. just put up a rep system for the sellers and buyers. The forum system was the only way you got any kind of feedback on scam artists etc...
Can't believe you would want the load in game rather than in a forum where it's easier to upgrade etc... Guess someone (and they have already) setup an out of game forum.
For my 2 ISK, NOT A GOOD MOVE.
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Meruth
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:30:00 -
[131]
This change is quite rediculous, unless contract are buffed seriously. No sniper rules, no proper end times, no browsing finished contracts by items (ie price checks) make the forum very neccersary.
What about mothership sales? Oh just put them on contra- owait.
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Jastra
Gallente Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:34:00 -
[132]
at least you could remove the rubbish contract system and put escrow back, man,
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Palx
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:36:00 -
[133]
wtf, very silly change, it's much easier to browse forums than contracts - which would also need a huge buff if this change went through
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Arrs Grazznic
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:37:00 -
[134]
Hey, calm down everyone! We'll just shift all the "Sell Orders", "Want Ads" and "Trades, trades and more trades" posts to "Market Discussions". Problem solved! I know it will be a little busy, but, hey, everything will be in one handy place then!
Cheers, Arrs
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Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:37:00 -
[135]
Contracts system simply can't do what a Forum can, too restrictive. Rethink this, it's a bad idea.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:37:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 21/08/2007 14:38:47 I guess devs don't trade at all, do they? The contracts are a hard to search mess when you are not looking for one specific item but a group of them. Contract advertising is already bad enough in Jita local. And the forum is so much more convenient to set up multi-item sales. Not to mention the silly lack of end time in contract auctions requiring you to constantly check them in the last hours before finishing. Killing of what is probably the most useful of all forums on this site must be the most stupid idea you ever had and I really hope you will reconsider. If only because this is bound to place even MORE stress in Jita.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:38:00 -
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contracts system sucks, ya cant even see corect endtime on them
yust ends within 1 day o.0
sucky change .
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javer
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:38:00 -
[138]
as said before this is a serious cluster f***k and imo whoever made this choice needs to re-evaluate their current knowledge of how the eve trading/sales community work. said In-DuH vidiuals should also re-evaluate there continued employment as mmog developers.. maybe single player games can do without a trading system but eve sure cant.
give your opinions to wrangler and kieron in a Constructive manner and maybe this can be reversed before it comes into life.
As said unless the contracts involve anti sniper rule, full item search access, final end times, and ability to create service contracts+super capital sales etc they are no suitable replacement for the forums. and even with this feature set then they cant beat the web browsers for accessability
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JimneyCricket
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:39:00 -
[139]
ffs.. you CCP guys need to stop playing WOW and start playing Eve.
Such a bad idea, but thats the beauty of hind sight. I guess the Eve population will be waiting in the wings, ready with their "We told you so" comments.
Get a grip CCP, your going from Bad to worse.
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Sorted
High Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:39:00 -
[140]
/me puts on his tinfoil hat:
I think one of CCP's competitors has bought some of CCPs current staff, urging them to nerf random sections of the game (Ex-SWG guys?), dumb it down as much as they can get away with - and genraly encourage bad move after bad move. In a hope to perma-kill eve so other MMOs can get their customer base and EVE looses its title as the no1 open-style-almost free form MMO available.
/me takes off tinfoil hat.
Seriously - not thought through guys. Hit some of the staff with the nerf/ban stick. Theres more to this than "we have an ingame contract system now, so use it".
The contract system is far from perfect. Your making my sandbox smaller with each change - not bigger as I would of expected. Less restrictions pls guys not more!
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Beldaws
Gallente Me and My Alts
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:41:00 -
[141]
So what's the punchline? It's a joke right?
What do I do when an auction ends while I'm at work? Are we going to have some type of forum access to place bids on in-game contracts?
Are you going to change auction system to act like Ebay and let me put in a maximum amount that I'm willing to pay and it will automatically increase my bid as I get outbid until the price of the item is over my maximum?
Bad idea until more functionality is put into the existing contract system.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:41:00 -
[142]
I gotta admit, i never saw this one coming.
All I can say is I hope CCP is ready for this The Market Discussion will now be spammed with this stuff, which will
A) Cause more work for the mods B) source more complaints for people who can't trade X or Y
I mean, already Chribba is setting up a forum for buy/sell orders, thats a pretty ominous sign in my books that this isn't the right decision
I'd never heard of this till the stuff got raised after my linking back to the buy forum.
And what of Corporate business reports, IPO's and the like? Unless these parts get some immediate love so that people can launch/run their businesses *properly* in game, there's going to be some big issues with important information being flooded out of the market discussion by WTB/WTS ads. And yeah, people will do it even though they arent sposed to, even a locked topic attracts peoples eyes.
All I gotta say is from my year and a half of playing, through all the stuff that's gone on over the years, this is the first thing i've actually raised concern about.
Improve Market Competition!
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Carla Black
Ryder Interstellar Fuel Services
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:42:00 -
[143]
That is an really bad idea... .. what about all the services like research, fueling and so on... we need a forum to offer our stuff.. that cant do contracts..
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:42:00 -
[144]
I don't get it - what do you gain by closing the market forums?
Nothing as far as I see.
Ok contract system is fine if you're impatient for an item and willing to pay top dollar to get it right away, but browsing through the sell orders has always been the way to look for something at the right price, I can't believe you would even contemplate this...
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Siddious
Serenity Of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:43:00 -
[145]
Is this what they call a brain fart ? ------
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Phoenus
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:52:00 -
[146]
Disagree with this more strongly than words can express.
The trade forums are a way to keep an eye on what is selling, for how much, how much it sold for in the past - and do all this without being logged into the game.
Please reconsider this. It's quite easily one of the most viewed and used forums on the site. You want to close down a forum, remove the hellhole that is COAD, and leave this.
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Slackerboy
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:52:00 -
[147]
One thing that needs to be added, that I did not see is Price history.
We need to be able to see what items sold for previously.
Not a good move.
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Amy Tr'ader
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:53:00 -
[148]
CCP Meeting this morning;
Man#1 - So how can we **** off a large part of our playerbase today guys? Man#2 - Well, we could crash the server just after downtime? Man#1 - Good idea! Man#3 - Woah yeah, good one! Man#4 - Oh! I got one! Let's close the sell/buy/trade order forums! That'll irk them! Man#1 - Omg! That's an excellent idea! I'm sure we'll make them really really ****ed now! Man#3 - WOAH! Now THAT is an idea! Man#1 - So it's decided; today we will crash the SQL server just after downtime, then we'll announce & close the market forums! All - Agreed!
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Ecid Q'Wulf
Caldari Galactic Fighter Syndicate Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:53:00 -
[149]
seriously, you guys have a tendency of getting it wrong lately. ________ "This post represents my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance." - wait a second, i am the CEO, ofcourse they do !!! |
DeODokktor
Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.08.21 14:53:00 -
[150]
So if the forums are getting removed in 2 weeks, can we assume that the new patch will happen by then?..
I only say that because as it is contracts are utterly useless for large auctions..
1) Auctions need Minimum Bid Incriments 2) You need to be able to set a Sniper Rule 3) People need to be able to see the end-time 4) You need a REAL Reserve (not just a starting price) 5) Proxy bidding (giving the system 2.8 billion isk and having the system bid for you) is also a requirement 6) Universe wide Bidding
I think that is a good list requirements (things the forum can allow to an extent).. I could list a few other things that would be useful but if these things arent coming in then dont remove the forums yet....
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