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Inqy
Caldari Ad Astra Vexillum
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:20:00 -
[181]
Elite - here I come (can't find my Homeworld disc :-()
see sense let us play at work dont remove your talons keep us happy
pls
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Jastra
Gallente Core Domination Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:20:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Miss Tigkill Ouch. Although I understand the reasoning, the contract system is not keyword searchable, which is a downside, IMO.
Actually it is, click the "more options" button and you will see a nice little search field. And while you are at it set it to simple view as well and you can see the items ignoring bogus titles.
yes, now try and buy whatever you find and realise you have to jump to a complete other region......
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toeslammer
Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:21:00 -
[183]
Do you guys have a time table to hit your ****er with a hammer, or do you just do it randomly ?
Instead of breaking something that is not broken, why don't you fix the bugs in the game ?
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Jefferson Dubois
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:22:00 -
[184]
I think what I find most disturbing about this, is the complete lack of explanation or follow up from CCP.
We are closing Trade forums and then nothing.
Alot of valid issues have been raised and we have not received one response.
We get more notice for an emergency reboot.
Dialogue is needed here CCP, or I expect things will be turning quite nasty soon.
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Arithron
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:22:00 -
[185]
Heck, no more scamming/selling services/selling worthless shares/selling piles of s**t!
You mean we actually have to talk to others in-game, on channels or local space? What, we even have to bid realistic prices that we make our own minds up on?? Hold on, what are you saying...we actually need to do in-game stuff in-game??? Whatya mean I can make a channel????
Contract system does need a few tweaks, admittedly. I like the idea of an ebayish type system instead of the forums....
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Azeusus
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:22:00 -
[186]
Only piece of the forums that generally have useful information in them, shame to see them go, but now we can all sign up with eve-live and have new sexy forums
Seems like abit of a daft decision, the forums probably put as much isk through them than the whole transfer system in game allows and that for a reason..... we dont like posting to buy but it works!!
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:22:00 -
[187]
Yay for dozens of 1 Trit for a billion contracts of people trying to advertise their SERVICES in one line of text. Brilliant idea really :D
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:23:00 -
[188]
Maybe CCP needs to taste what will happen before they see reason? Everyone with a Jita char (or with nothing better to do) should actually undock and idle outside 4_4 instead of sitting in station, I bet that will go some way to simulate what a doubling of the Jita population will do. And of course new sell orders now need to go to a random other forum category to the mods can move them to the one that is now proper.
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Mr Minmatar
Minmatar Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:23:00 -
[189]
I support this move....AFTER contracts are fixed for those selling things that don't fit in the current very limited system. Things like: -WTB and auctions not tying up isk for up to 2 weeks. -WTB being renewable rather than getting hit for millions in fees because you're after a rare item outside of Jita and it sometimes takes a while (I recently purchased a DG tower BPC and researched Fenrir BPO for example) -WTB orders for BPCs and researched BPOs (and players can set minimum research levels) -Some of us sell services. -Some sell OOG things like sig-creation, corp web-site hosting, kill-board hosting and TS/Vent hosting. -And more than a couple other shortcomings that have already been mentioned as well.
If you can't make contracts do all that and more then guess what, there's still a need for alternate means of buying/selling. Ask your economist what would happen if the NYSE and Chicago Futures Exchange (or whatever name it uses after the merger) were to be arbitrarily shut down because people could sell things on EBAy?
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Saladin
Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:24:00 -
[190]
Seriously, who makes these decisions? The contract system is woefully inadequate and a hotbed for scamming.
In contracts you can't:
1. Bid outside your region: Why not, who's idea was it to limit that? 2. Sell a service: Well maybe with freeform contracts, but those contracts are for scammers. 3. Check the status of your bid from the convenience of the world wide web.
So its a man power issue? how about if people start posting WTD and WTB in the general discussion forum?
Wrangler, you need to gfy. ----
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KadaEl
RONA Midgard Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:24:00 -
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this is risky business!
The forums are great because the can sell more than just items, but services and super caps as well. Pre-ordering, especially with the new cap ship coming out, is always a great thing. Being able to browse the history is great as well. I'm not saying keep it based on nostalgia; it is actually a useful place. Also, contracts kinda suck. Can't place a bid without being in the same region? Jita is going to become even more of a hellhole. "Less than a day remaining" -- is that 1 minute or 23 hours?
You will never get everything done in game, you'll just move it to an (untrusted, uncontrollable) third party. So please, reconsider. At least for Jita's sake! -------------------------------------------
KadaEl RONA Midgard Academy Teaching the world of tomorrow |
Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:25:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Arithron Heck, no more scamming/selling services/selling worthless shares/selling piles of s**t!
You mean we actually have to talk to others in-game, on channels or local space? What, we even have to bid realistic prices that we make our own minds up on?? Hold on, what are you saying...we actually need to do in-game stuff in-game??? Whatya mean I can make a channel????
Contract system does need a few tweaks, admittedly. I like the idea of an ebayish type system instead of the forums....
Have you EVER tried to sell or buy something in the trade channel? :P
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:26:00 -
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Contracts is not a safe way to sell high value items. You'd need to get those items to a hub system. The probability of a suicide gank in such a situation is extremely high both for buyer and for seller. Forum posting between two alts with items exchanged by contract at a non publically disclosed system is much more secure.
Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU! |
Reecoh Soltar
Exotic Dancer Talent Agency
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:27:00 -
[194]
Your offer does not interest me and I'd to unsubscribe from your newsletter.
/signed that the current contract system is inadequate for all our trading/buying/selling needs.
I'm sure at least 1 third party forum will open to replace the official one, and it'll be a scammer paradise since CCP won't be there to whack offenders with the ban stick.
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Altaree
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:27:00 -
[195]
Hrm.... and I thought the mineral compression change was a bad idea... Way to one-up yourselves CCP.
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Arithron
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:28:00 -
[196]
I agree that the end time on current contracts needs fixing, and most of the other stuff that others have brought up needing doing on contract system. However, just because scammers use a system in-game doesn't mean it isn't good (freeform). Afterall, they use all the channels also.
I suspect that making everything happen in-game means its more likely to be petitionable if things go wrong and you get scammed, and they can track down various crooked players easier...
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:29:00 -
[197]
ccp, i disagree
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:30:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 21/08/2007 15:32:22 Ah yet another bad idea which really hasn't been thought out, seriously has CCP been taken over by EA or Sony? Because from the recent crap you have been coming up with it seems like it.
I don't normally critize CCP as I know they are always trying their best to please their member base but in the last 6 months I am starting to wonder.
If anything close COAD as that these days is alot less useful that the trading forum.
The ingame contract system is a big improvement on the old escrow system but it will never be good enough to replace the selling and buying forums.
DON'T DO IT CCP!
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DamienUPB
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:33:00 -
[199]
Remove the worth of drugs in game: CHECK Create boosters to make us think we got something better: CHECK Make the sites for booster sites worthless but still a pain: CHECK Make it impossible to sell boosters in game or out of game: CHECK
Yup you hosed many things that can't be sold on the open market. Yes we have a channel in game to get info out but it's more fellow smugglers then users that get into it not the users.
Can you warn the next time your gonna *****the smuggling/booster profession. Or make such a large change and give us a chance to way in on it.
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Illminatis
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:33:00 -
[200]
You can use the channels to do everything in game, in theory, so why do forums even exist? Close every forum down if you're going to use that rationale.
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Notleh
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:34:00 -
[201]
Wrangler, just when you guys had earned some loyalty points with the announcement of towers that only have to be fueled once a month you post this.
Are you a masochist or what?
Bad idea, please reverse your thought process on this one.
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Arithron
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:39:00 -
[202]
Oh yeah, I forgot about scams being legal....there is an old saying though..
BUYER BEWARE
Beat me with an idiot stick...
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Jefferson Dubois
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:39:00 -
[203]
*looks around for a ccp response
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Yoshitsuni
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:42:00 -
[204]
This will force more people into Jita.
Yosh
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Mephistocles
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:43:00 -
[205]
This is an excellent way to increase traffic in Jita.
Oh, wait, they were trying to decrease traffic there. Seems someone didn't really think this through.
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Barbicane
A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:43:00 -
[206]
I don't mind removing the trade forum. It's rarely used anyway. But the sell and buy order forums? There are so many things you cannot do with contracts.
This is insane
/emote goes off to register at Chribba's site.
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Arthalion Thoidon
Caldari Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:44:00 -
[207]
Hmm, I think I can understand why you're going to close those forums( especially the CCG one), not sure if I think it's a good idea though. However I, like just about everyone else, can see a problem when people want to offer a service( freighter, research POS, whatever) or want to sell a Mothership or titan. Also I have to say the contract system could use some changing before the sell forums die. I'm mainly thinking of the automatic 10% of startprice bid increment, it would be nice if players could actually set a bid increment themselves. Let's hope that'll be in a patch coming to an eve server near us soon( no tm, that'd take too long)
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Marcus Tedric
Gallente Tedric Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:44:00 -
[208]
I can only assume CCP have a very valid desire to do this - but.......
If 'we' can't advertise here I can only see one result...
Jita/The Forge will become the ONLY market place. Everything will have to go there because every single customer will want to go to the 'Big Mall'.
Every single supplier, unable to let anyone know that they can get things elsewhere - will HAVE to go there.
That's just silly.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:44:00 -
[209]
Posting for a second time because i feel that bloody strongly.
DONT DO IT CCP ITS FECKING NUTS!!!!!
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.08.21 15:47:00 -
[210]
Beyond that i can't wait to be bombarded with the millions of google spawned isk selling ad that are going to fill my internet explorer needed to sustain any site that tries to replace this.
Oh the temptation for many, sitting looking at that Dread they just can't afford, while blinking above there is an add for some nice farmed isk for the same price as a beer.....
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