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Gideon Kross PROGENITOR CORPORATION Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.09.22 17:20:00 - [511] Can't believe I'm actually agreeing with a Privateer... I Support the concept, and I think I have a thoery on how it could be coded (post to appear soonÖ). Good Stuff PB.
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2009.09.22 20:23:00 - [512] this looks like an opportunity to say Tallywackers! + LDS @ Bclnc
Xelius Dax Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.23 04:13:00 - [513] I support this request.
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.10.30 20:28:00 - [514] Just a little bump Thank-You, The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss) Signatures by: Kalen Vox
De'Veldrin Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.10.30 20:41:00 - [515] Edited by: De''Veldrin on 30/10/2009 20:47:10 Originally by: Audi Amarr CCP youÆre playing too hard for the Carebare, we also play and have rights. Consider this on your next Nerf/Decision plz. Actually, you don't have rights. You have the priviledge, granted by CCP, to log in. That's all any of us has. You may leave your sense of self-entitlement at the door. Edit: I went back and read the OP for this thread. It's been kikcing around a while now. I'd support a dual flagging mechanic. --Vel In the world of emoticons, I was colon capital d.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2009.10.31 02:52:00 - [516] it should be like this: Kill someone in a way that does NOT incur GCC (0.0, wartarget, they aggressed you first) = loot is yours Kill them in a way that DOES incur GCC = wreck it theirs, and if someone ninjas the loot they are flagged to the victim. That seems fair to me, and ostensibly as a pirate it would be to my "disadvantage" ;)
Biku Edwuan	Posted - 2009.10.31 11:43:00 - [517] +1
MS5	Posted - 2009.10.31 14:59:00 - [518] /support
Komi Toran	Posted - 2009.11.02 06:53:00 - [519] Fully support bringing PvP loot ownership in line with PvE loot ownership... ...it's just that I think the loot should still "belong" to the thing that was killed in both cases, not the thing doing the killing. That way, in one action you'd remove the one game mechanic that two groups of whiners like to point at to support their whines (yes, I'm grouping the people in support of this change in with those who complain about ninja salvaging). As has been stated, if you want to be able to shoot the person taking from the wrecks of ships you killed, it's time to come out from under CONCORD's skirt and fight in lowsec/0.0.
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.26 23:19:00 - [520] Just had loot stolen again. now CCP may i ask how difficult it was to make: Cans belonge to the one who drops it. NPC Wrecks belonge to the one who started the Mission. Make a wreck flag free for all (and if you get concorded because of a suicide run, make the suicideganker wreck free for all) Must be difficult to programm a solution to our problem. Centuries ago, the Bible warned of dangers posed by evil men described as master[s] at evil ideas and scheming to do bad. (Proverbs 24:8) PRIVATEERS Officialy nerfed by CCP 05/07

Berendas Monolithic.	Posted - 2009.12.26 23:24:00 - [521] Supported, its fine if people can take from my kill, just let me shoot them for it
flakeys Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.17 19:00:00 - [522] Signed
S'Way Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.17 19:01:00 - [523] Signed
Shodai	Posted - 2010.02.17 19:06:00 - [524] Agree
Jerid Verges	Posted - 2010.02.17 20:48:00 - [525] Not supported.
CyberGh0st Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.02.17 22:02:00 - [526] Edited by: CyberGh0st on 17/02/2010 22:07:53 Not signed, it is like ninja salvaging, rogue looters have their place, just be faster or just kill them ... If you are talking about highsec and crying about how suicide ganking is too hard, then LOL. And for Empire Wars, I think everything is balanced. Go to lowsec, 0.0 or wormhole space if you want to shoot rogue looters, just as missioners have to go to lowsec to avoid or shoot ninja salvagers. http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.02.17 22:35:00 - [527] This idea is truly hilarious, everything the carebear ninja salvage moaners said about the hypocrisy of pvpers is true. What a load of total **, I hope all you who supported this idea DIAF (in game). Honestly quite pathetic hypocrisy. Is this actually a very good troll ? -------------------------------------------- well mannered **ole
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.02.17 22:40:00 - [528] Originally by: Berendas Supported, its fine if people can take from my kill, just let me shoot them for it Try pvping somewhere other than hisec then -------------------------------------------- well mannered ****ole
Jugger Takashi Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.19 01:11:00 - [529] Fix this, or remove it on everything, and my alts will make sure a missioneer never sees another bit of loot again, ever.....
Slimy Worm Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.02.19 09:20:00 - [530] Originally by: CyberGh0st Edited by: CyberGh0st on 17/02/2010 22:20:18 Not supported! This proposal is just as carebear as proposing loot rights on salvage. Ninja salvaging has it's place, just as rogue looters have their place, just be faster or kill them ... If you are talking about highsec, then tough luck, it is highsec, you can't shoot rogue looters just as you can't shoot ninja salvagers When stealing loot you get flagged to the owner of the wreck, he can shoot you, and that is how it should be. Go to lowsec, 0.0 or wormhole space if you want to shoot rogue looters, just as missioners have to go to lowsec to avoid or shoot ninja salvagers. What's up with all these carebear PvP'ers in EVE these days, it seems they want everything for free, like insurance on suicide ganks, and can't handle someone stealing their stuff ... Quoted.

CyberGh0st Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.02.19 10:35:00 - [531] To add to this, what the OP is proposing is removing one of the drawbacks of highsec PvP ( and at the same time nerfing a mini profession, the rogue looter ), and therefore detracting from lowsec, 0.0, wormhole space and factional warfare pvp. War decs in highsec are about having a way to destroy your enemy without being able to hide in highsec, it is not about getting loot imho. It is very much comparable to people wanting Arena's and/or instanced PvP and/or duels in EVE, detracting from the other more pure forms of PvP which make EVE unique. http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE
Slade Hoo 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2010.02.19 13:56:00 - [532] /signed ------ Make Lowsec useful! Vote in the CSM-Forum!
Snypar Australis	Posted - 2010.02.19 14:07:00 - [533]
RP McMurphy Joint Espionage and Defence Industries	Posted - 2010.02.19 21:55:00 - [534] Edited by: RP McMurphy on 19/02/2010 21:55:24 i agree! Lock wrecks for x minutes/seconds (maybe 30secs or smth?) to owners corp and last hit pilot's corp. Most of the pew pew happens at stations and gates, where even flagged looters would simply dock or jump..
Marlona Sky D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.20 09:11:00 - [535] Edited by: Marlona Sky on 20/02/2010 09:11:19 THE WRECK BELONGS TO THE PERSON WHO WAS FLYING IT AND THE CORP THEY ARE IN! HOW MANY TIMES IN HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID TO YOU? This game mechanic is working as intended.
Rvlxnx	Posted - 2010.02.20 19:58:00 - [536] Ahhh ye, i will have to say i do not agree, if these things were to be changed for fairness sake then it should also be changed when i (we = others like me ) go into low sec for better npc loots and get PK'd just for being there. i may not be a pirate but if these things were changed where would a pirates life be at or where would the opportunities go for those who may be considering a life of piracy? being a pirate as we all know is the ultimate freedom so to speak, live it, love it, dream it, soar angelic, i have often heard this in local: "if you are under war dec it is not a good idea to be running missions",.... for example....; and if you are a pirate and complaining about someone ganking your stuff,.. well... its all in the life of the life. Have Fun, Good Luck, Fly Well, Fly Safe.
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.21 17:46:00 - [537] Edited by: The PitBoss on 21/02/2010 17:48:45 Originally by: Marlona Sky THE WRECK BELONGS TO THE PERSON WHO WAS FLYING IT AND THE CORP THEY ARE IN! HOW MANY TIMES IN HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS DOES IT NEED TO BE SAID TO YOU? This game mechanic is working as intended. I just like bumping this thread every now and then SOLELY because i know it gets your panties in a bunch ... enjoy BTW: Is your alliance relevant anymore ? ... just sayin' Thank-You, The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss) Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Marlona Sky D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.22 04:19:00 - [538] Edited by: Marlona Sky on 22/02/2010 04:19:28 Originally by: The PitBoss I just like bumping this thread every now and then SOLELY because i know it gets your panties in a bunch ... enjoy BTW: Is your alliance relevant anymore ? ... just sayin' I'm honored you feel that way about me. BTW: Has your alliance ever been relevant? ... just sayin'
The PitBoss Caldari Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.22 22:01:00 - [539] Originally by: Marlona Sky BTW: Has your alliance ever been relevant? ... just sayin' So relevant that CCP NERFed us specifically ... ahhh how soon they forget ... mining must have fried your brain ... BTW: Friendly bump Thank-You, The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss) Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Mrs Management	Posted - 2010.02.23 11:19:00 - [540] Wreck is owned by the "final blow" 60 sec timer then open season.



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