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Raffael Ramirez
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.23 21:19:00 -
[31]
You keep what you kill..
Sounds allright
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Dlardrageth
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.23 22:32:00 -
[32]
Opposed!
Especially as not a clear alternative is given by OP. What is it now?
1. Flagged to all people on the killmail? (including victim, Concord and in low-sec some random trigger-happy trespasser?)
2. Flagged to the person with final blow only?
3. Flagged to victim and person with final blow?
4. Flagged to victim, all of his Corp/Alliance plus person with final blow plus all of his Corp/Alliance?
Sorry, nothing personal, I don't think the current state is optimal either, but just writing "Fix it!" without pointing out in which direction is a bit... meh.
Personally I'd favor option "6E":
6E. Flagged to Ronald McDonald who might come in and drop some BigMac(TM) if shot up...
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: The PitBoss on 23/05/2008 23:01:03
Originally by: Dlardrageth Opposed!
First off .. you're obviously opposing this because of who i am and what alliance i'm in ... and NOT looking at the issue as it is being presented
Originally by: Dlardrageth Especially as not a clear alternative is given by OP. What is it now?
SECONDLY .. the original post was asking to RE-EXAMINE the policy ...
BUT since you brought it up ... I thought the idea of this forum was to bring up stuff the players of the game might think need changing ... IF i had to supply the fix too ... i would be a DEV ... i suggested a cpl of options i thought may be viable ... BUT maybe if you could look past your carebear tears AND READ the post correctly you would see that ...
Originally by: Dlardrageth 1. Flagged to all people on the killmail? (including victim, Concord and in low-sec some random trigger-happy trespasser?)
2. Flagged to the person with final blow only?
3. Flagged to victim and person with final blow?
4. Flagged to victim, all of his Corp/Alliance plus person with final blow plus all of his Corp/Alliance?
These are ALL viable options ...
Originally by: Dlardrageth Sorry, nothing personal, I don't think the current state is optimal either, but just writing "Fix it!" without pointing out in which direction is a bit... meh.
NOTED: 1 more to oppose ... please move on
Thanks,
PB
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JVol
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:02:00 -
[34]
Whats the difference , I thought I coverd this?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=778393
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: JVol Whats the difference , I thought I coverd this?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=778393
Well ... i guess the way I presented it got a little more attention ...
Thanks,
PB
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JVol
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:11:00 -
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Since its obvios Im not getting ant responce on the original thread on this topic i'll ask here
If this was implemented, HOW would it negitively effect Eve, besides the can parisites having the approprate risk involved when stealing?
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Dlardrageth
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss Edited by: The PitBoss on 23/05/2008 23:01:03
Originally by: Dlardrageth Opposed!
First off .. you're obviously opposing this because of who i am and what alliance i'm in ... and NOT looking at the issue as it is being presented
Yeah, right. And write the other parts of the text because I'm so utterly bored, correct? If you would have cared to check, this one post you quoted is by far not the first of mine in this very sub-forum. Hate breaking the news to you, but neither you nor your alliance are that important to me by themselves, sorry.*shrug*
Back on the real topic, it's really nice you pulled almost a full-quote, but didn't bother to clarify what it is you want specifically. Believe me or not, if you were to point out in which direction the change should go, you might be more successful. And actually have my support instead of yet another post asking for clarification. That is... if you really want a specific change, of course...?
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Max Khaos
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:13:00 -
[38]
Support
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Profhet
Wraiths Reborn Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:13:00 -
[39]
definetely needs changing ____________________________
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VanillaChacolate
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:17:00 -
[40]
Should have been fixed long ago.
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Wayl4nder
Darwins Rejects
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:22:00 -
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dlardrageth ::snip:: what it is you want specifically ::snip::
Ok GENIUS ... WHAT exactly can you not GET from the title of the thread ??
[issue] Looting from MY kill SHOULD = looter flagged to ME
Originally by: Dlardrageth ... if you were to point out in which direction the change should go, you might be more successful. And actually have my support ...
AS STATED in the OP .... THE FIX: Looter should be flagged to EVERYONE on the kill mail ... AT THE VERY LEAST ... the looter should be flagged to the person laying the 'Final Blow'
AT this point i dont care about your support .. YOU'VE failed the internet .. PLEASE LEAVE ...
Thanks,
PB
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: JVol If this was implemented, HOW would it negitively effect Eve, besides the can parisites having the approprate risk involved when stealing?
It wouldn't negatively effect EVE ... its the basically the same concept the miner's were crying about a few years back ... its how we make isk AND some one can take advantage of our hard work with no repercussions.
NOW its a PVPer crying ... its how I / WE make money AND some one can take advantage of our hard work with no repercussions.
DID the can flagging hurt the game ?? ... NO actually made it a bit more challenging .. IMHO
Thanks,
PB
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:32:00 -
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Opposed because the OP has failed to outline both the present mechanics and the proposed change to the mechanics in clear terms.
Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry ) |
Lea Re
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:33:00 -
[45]
/signed
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Dlardrageth
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss [...] [issue] Looting from MY kill SHOULD = looter flagged to ME
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Quote: THE FIX: Looter should be flagged to EVERYONE on the kill mail ...[...]
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Quote: [...]AT THE VERY LEAST ... the looter should be flagged to the person laying the 'Final Blow'[...]
Just in case you did not get my point from the first post.
As I listed 4 realistic options (there are surely more) in my initial post, to clarify my position... I think either the option "becoming flagged to victim and person scoring final blow" or "becoming flagged to whole Corp/Alliance of victim and person to score final blow" would have my support ATM. Not the other ones. That easy.
On a side note I think making a specific suggestion instead of writing (in a few more words, granted): "Um, fix stuff! kkthxbb" has somewhat better chances at getting a fix. And - as I clearly stated - I don't like the current state either, I'd rather like to have a suggestion/issue which is not counter-productive. YMMV.
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AT this point i dont care about your support .. YOU'VE failed the internet .. PLEASE LEAVE ...
Oh right. Sure. If you say so, I'll surely do... not.
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The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Opposed because the OP has failed to outline both the present mechanics and the proposed change to the mechanics in clear terms.
Nice alt
Thanks,
PB
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CynoGirlx
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:58:00 -
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The OP addressed a game mechanic that has long been broken and suggested that it be revised.
Agreed.
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Nikki Software
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Posted - 2008.05.23 23:59:00 -
[49]
/signed
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AlaCasio
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:00:00 -
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Always in favor of fixing a system that doesn't make sense with one that does make sense.
/signed
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Aurora Rose
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:02:00 -
[51]
Aye.
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Nauticcus
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:03:00 -
[52]
This one is obvious.
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Sworn Absent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:28:00 -
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OP, how do you see this combining with CCP's reimbursement policy where items that drop in a wreck dont get reimbursed. Do you think that this would need to change if the wreck became the belonging of the killer in a fight?
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Sabine Borgia
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:39:00 -
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/signed |
The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sworn Absent OP, how do you see this combining with CCP's reimbursement policy where items that drop in a wreck dont get reimbursed. Do you think that this would need to change if the wreck became the belonging of the killer in a fight?
I've only been reimbursed ONCE in-game ... AND that was OVER 3.5 years ago. I forget the situation BUT was given my ship back BUT not the modules.
At the time I thought it was fair ... AND still do.
So are you asking .. IF i kill a person ... they get reimbursed the ship for what ever reason ... AND i get the loot drop ... should it get taken away from me??
TOO many IFs here ... i would guess it should be a case by case decision.
I have no clues on how many petitions AND follow up reimbursements ... so dont know how much it would bog the GMs down to use thier discretion.
Thanks,
PB
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romie kelso
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Posted - 2008.05.24 01:13:00 -
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shoot if i don't have to run a care bare toon im all down
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romierome
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Posted - 2008.05.24 01:15:00 -
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sorry this is my real self not romie kelso
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.05.24 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: The PitBoss
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Opposed because the OP has failed to outline both the present mechanics and the proposed change to the mechanics in clear terms.
Nice alt
Nice ass.
Bandures > tommy you like a cowboy harry ) |
Farrqua
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.24 02:09:00 -
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Yea it makes sense. If you make the kill then the can should belong to you. And flag the same way cans flag now with jet cans or rat droppings.
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Why'dyou HitMe
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.24 04:12:00 -
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Edited by: Why''dyou HitMe on 24/05/2008 04:12:15
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds Opposed because the OP has failed to outline both the present mechanics and the proposed change to the mechanics in clear terms.
you're an idiot
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