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Felysta Sandorn
Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:34:00 -
[2041]
CAST YOUR VOTES FOR OR AGAINST THIS NANO NERF NOW:
Vote for it HERE.
Vote against it HERE.
.: A Vagabond's Requiem (Blog) :.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:34:00 -
[2042]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Isnt it odd the these imbalances that you claim need fixing also happen to boost ships and crappy tactics that useless tards like you fly..........
"OH NOE4S! ITS NOT MY FAULT IDIOTS USE OTHER SHIPS THAT ARENT OVERPOWERED"
Go read a book or two. It should improve your IQ. Cant help you with your crappy 3-you-old tantrums though. You'll need to go back to mom for that, Mr. Bean.
NANO is not overpowered ppl are just under trained and unwilling to improve when crying for a nerf is easier.
My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake. |
Damion Zyne
Des Esseintes Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:36:00 -
[2043]
Originally by: Korinn
MAKING SO MANY CHANGES TO SUCH A COMPLEX GAME IN ONE GO IS UNPREDICTABLE AT BEST AND COULD HAVE TOTALLY UNFORSEEN, GAME BREAKING CONSEQUENCES IN THE LONG RUN. "SISI" IS NOT A SUITABLE WAY (NUMBERS + 'NATURAL' PVP WISE) TO TEST THIS. SHOTGUN NERFS ARE NOT THE ANSWER WHERE KEYHOLE SURGERY IS REQUIRED.
QFT
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:38:00 -
[2044]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean NANO is not overpowered ppl are just under trained and unwilling to improve when crying for a nerf is easier.
That's YOUR ******ed opinion. You know very dam well they're overpowered. It's why your alliance PL and TRI are so vehemently against this nerf. But keep sobbing and calling people stupid and idiots as long as it makes you feel better
And yes, I am a carebear, tell me how much you hate and despise me, I love your whines. I only wish I could harness the tears right off your cheeks, while they're fresh and still warm.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:39:00 -
[2045]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Isnt it odd the these imbalances that you claim need fixing also happen to boost ships and crappy tactics that useless tards like you fly..........
"OH NOE4S! ITS NOT MY FAULT IDIOTS USE OTHER SHIPS THAT ARENT OVERPOWERED"
Go read a book or two. It should improve your IQ. Cant help you with your crappy 3-you-old tantrums though. You'll need to go back to mom for that, Mr. Bean.
Well that's certainlly mature discussion.
Your caldari, I'm gona bet you've never glanced even sideways at medium rails? Just want to spack out heavy missiles and cruise until the cows come home? ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:42:00 -
[2046]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean NANO is not overpowered ppl are just under trained and unwilling to improve when crying for a nerf is easier.
That's YOUR ******ed opinion. You know very dam well they're overpowered. It's why your alliance PL and TRI are so vehemently against this nerf. But keep sobbing and calling people stupid and idiots as long as it makes you feel better
And yes, I am a carebear, tell me how much you hate and despise me, I love your whines. I only wish I could harness the tears right off your cheeks, while they're fresh and still warm.
So, you'd prefere it if PL and TRI and all those other corps and alliances who nano now, to go into full term siege mode in order to get a fights?
Also, as a self admitted care bear, how the hell do you know what nanos can and can't achieve? How powerful they are?
******. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:42:00 -
[2047]
Originally by: Hehulk Well that's certainlly mature discussion.
Your caldari, I'm gona bet you've never glanced even sideways at medium rails? Just want to spack out heavy missiles and cruise until the cows come home?
Oh wait, now we're playing the "mature card"? When I descend to your low crappy level of intelligence you whip out the "THAT'S NOT MATURE!" Don't make me laugh. I rather you keep spewing ******ed remarks, as I'm willing to bet that's your true persona.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:44:00 -
[2048]
Originally by: Hehulk
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean NANO is not overpowered ppl are just under trained and unwilling to improve when crying for a nerf is easier.
That's YOUR ******ed opinion. You know very dam well they're overpowered. It's why your alliance PL and TRI are so vehemently against this nerf. But keep sobbing and calling people stupid and idiots as long as it makes you feel better
And yes, I am a carebear, tell me how much you hate and despise me, I love your whines. I only wish I could harness the tears right off your cheeks, while they're fresh and still warm.
So, you'd prefere it if PL and TRI and all those other corps and alliances who nano now, to go into full term siege mode in order to get a fights?
Also, as a self admitted care bear, how the hell do you know what nanos can and can't achieve? How powerful they are?
******.
Oh, you mean all of 0.0 is sovereign and player-owned? I don't know if you're playing the ****** or not. Either way the shoe fits. Wear it.
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:44:00 -
[2049]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: Hehulk Well that's certainlly mature discussion.
Your caldari, I'm gona bet you've never glanced even sideways at medium rails? Just want to spack out heavy missiles and cruise until the cows come home?
Oh wait, now we're playing the "mature card"? When I descend to your low crappy level of intelligence you whip out the "THAT'S NOT MATURE!" Don't make me laugh. I rather you keep spewing ******ed remarks, as I'm willing to bet that's your true persona.
You've gone from "can't we all just get along?" to making clueless remarks to flaming. You should win a trophy for most valuable forum contribution. Just be quiet already.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:50:00 -
[2050]
Originally by: gandrig
Your disliked cos your a ******* it has nothing to do with your eve carrier tbh.
Yes, but why am I an *******? Be more descriptive. Tell me how I'm ruining your life, etc. What can I do to make you go from disliking me to all out hating me?
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:50:00 -
[2051]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 26/07/2008 18:53:54
Originally by: gandrig
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean NANO is not overpowered ppl are just under trained and unwilling to improve when crying for a nerf is easier.
That's YOUR ******ed opinion. You know very dam well they're overpowered. It's why your alliance PL and TRI are so vehemently against this nerf. But keep sobbing and calling people stupid and idiots as long as it makes you feel better
And yes, I am a carebear, tell me how much you hate and despise me, I love your whines. I only wish I could harness the tears right off your cheeks, while they're fresh and still warm.
Your disliked cos your a ******* it has nothing to do with your eve carrier tbh.
If this was a nerf carebear thread you would not see me or others posting in it cos i could not give a toss as im a pvper in fact if i had to id actually vote for what ever the carebears enjoyed to do most as thats what playing the game is all about.
Your problem is you enjoy seeing other ppl pi*sed off about stuff they enjoy being removed from the game even though it does not effect you one little bit and that makes you a real ******* and exactly why me and others do not like you tbh.
You hit the nail right on the head buddy.
PS: LOL the tard cut out your explanation then asked for one in the same post ffs.
My views may reflect those of my corp/alliance, but if you wanna know for sure ask em for gods sake. |
Cain Calzon
Caldari Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:50:00 -
[2052]
yey, me a very happy camper now :D now to fix the afk cloaking and ill be a very happy panda
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:52:00 -
[2053]
Edited by: Hehulk on 26/07/2008 18:52:28
Originally by: Matrix Skye Oh, you mean all of 0.0 is sovereign and player-owned? I don't know if you're playing the ****** or not. Either way the shoe fits. Wear it.
Again you show your ignorance. Alliances, as a rule of thumb that plenty of experience has show me, operate in two modes
1) Alliance leader tells his troops to relax, make some isk, go raid the hostiles next door to keep their PVP skills sharp and generally have some good old fasioned fun 2) Alliance leader says we're going to get some new space, everyone suit up. From then on you're talking about large BS slugfests, capitals droping like there's no tommorow, and lots of lag.
I know which I prefere, but there's a problem to that. When you go raid those hostiles, they'll get as many people as possible into a gang (Which in all fairness I can't say I fault, if people want to pew pew, shouldn't stop them) then come haring after you. Now, by this point you'll have caused what damage you can, all the idiots will be dead, those who watched channels will know your there and wil have safed up.
If your in nanos, their fleet needs to set it's self up to counter you. If your in general assorted slow ships, they'll bring whatever, damn how fast or slow you are, and just use jump bridges you drop on your head. I've seen it done, and I've done it plenty ot times. Now, nanos have a hope of escaping against a shit gang, something designed to stop them (Rapier, Curses, caldari and gallente rail boats, amarr pulse ships) will curb stomp them hard. The slow fleet will get slaughtered regardless of what the people you've just raided bring by virtue of sheer numbers.
Who's gona raid with that as the only option?
Also, how are nanos ruining your game? I can't see how tri nano gangs are effecting your mission running in motsu. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
Dray
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:53:00 -
[2054]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean They are right its ppl like you who are unwilling to learn piloting skills that are reducing the game and its content.
Here is a way for the morons who want eve to be perfectly "BALANCED" as thats the word they like to use.
Remove every ship apart from one from the game give it a single available fit and also give everybody perfect skills in it.
There perfect "BALANCE".
I was thinking more along the lines of CCP actually fixing the imbalances such as nanos and letting the tards from Pandemic and Tri die off, since obviously they cannot live without hugging nanos .
Just quit and move on already. I have enough tears from you alone to power my satisfaction that you suck at Eve. Bye bye.
Actually they're not crying as you understand it, they are telling you it isnt broken but CCP is listening to you and not them, but people like PL will adapt and move on, something which you seem unable to try or do, ultimately however many of these changes go thru they will come back at you and give you another reason to whine.
Infact if you look closesly they are doing you a favour, nano ships are easily countered, you get these changes in and they just try another tactic which you will invariably will come to the forums to moan about and this whole thing starts allover again.
It's all good tho, they will eventually get sick and CCP will finally be free of the vets, which on the face of it they dont seem to want anymore.
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Cutesmile
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:54:00 -
[2055]
Originally by: Matrix Skye
Originally by: Boz Well You've gone from "can't we all just get along?" to making clueless remarks to flaming. You should win a trophy for most valuable forum contribution. Just be quiet already.
Wow! Very insightful! Please, tell me how much I suck and how much you hate me :P.
I am a Caldari player specializing in Caldari ships! BRING IT! \o/ Tell me how much you want me to quit, and how much I'm ruining your game
Sry m8, but i can flying with other races ship Frigates to BS and CS. But i and another palyers don't wanna playing with Caldari,Drake or Lag online. I like it use my brain, and i dont like it press just the F1-F8 buttons.
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Spacetrekka
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:55:00 -
[2056]
Originally by: Matrixcvd Edited by: Matrixcvd on 26/07/2008 18:48:29
Only aspect of 0.0 combat that daily pilots can partake in without sitting around for their own blob or getting blobbed themselves, is fast recon/hac gangs. If that gets taken away all of combat in 0.0 will be about numbers and nothing else.
Very good point about the dangers of this patch to small gang pvp. Thank you.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:56:00 -
[2057]
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg To the nano people:
Is there a point to bringing frigates, BC's, or BS's out with your nanogang? Why and why not? Would you ever bring one out for a small roaming gang?
Frigates and Hurricanes would be the only thing I'd bring out for a nanogang. As for a roaming gang, the last time we did them regularly sans nano was in Geminate over the winter holiday.
If we came close to 9P4, K25, BWF, anyplace like that, we almost always got blobbed by a mixed nano/heavy fleet of theirs that outnumbered us about 30:10. Most of the time, we usually had to retreat and lose about 10-20% of our forces that we couldn't get unstuck from their tacklers - we had a few good wins, but most of the time we couldn't stick around and had to haul ass for home. Got cut off by jumpbridges a few times, lost some scouts in the process, the works - so, I hope you can see why I'm more of a fan of nano than not.
It allows you to compete with their blob on a better footing - if they blob up to try and win, rather than through skill, you just shrug and head out. It makes them earn their kills, rather than just showing up and pressing F1-F8. If we hadn't been as good as we are, there are situations where we'd have been totally wiped out, rather than just taking a few losses...
I can sympathize with the position, and see your argument, but losing to superiour numbers (3 to 1) is just pure mathematics that shouldnt justify creating a class of ships that's only true counter is its own class.
In the end, either go at them with caps or roam in another region. Some places are too well defended and robbing those defenders of all that organization (that's tactics too, isnt it) by allowing a bunch of tricked-out-low-slot-abusing cruisers to roam around unscathed is just, not, right. ----------------- Friends Forever |
RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:56:00 -
[2058]
***IMPORTANT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*** ***IMPORTANT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*** ***IMPORTANT PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT***
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Thats right...HEDALEOLFARBER! Thats right...HEDALEOLFARBER!
One of the Foundation preferred mission-running locations.
See the sights! Find mission running faction BS and take pictures! Featuring Mach/Navy Raven combos! Plenty of stations too! Start probing/scanning IVO top belt! Junk seen on scan on jump-in is usually POS'd up and/or unoccupied (normally a Sacriledge and random T1 stuff...but maybe they forgot to stront the towers? Who knows?)! Fun fun fun!
Get it while it's hot...and hey...it's the weekend .
Remember kids...its HEDALEOLFARBER! In Molden Heath losec just 5 quick jumps from TEONUSUDE!
Yeah!
***This public service announcement brought to you by the "get 'em back ingame committee supporting responsible game balancing"
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Korinn
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:57:00 -
[2059]
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg In the end, either go at them with caps or roam in another region. Some places are too well defended and robbing those defenders of all that organization (that's tactics too, isnt it) by allowing a bunch of tricked-out-low-slot-abusing cruisers to roam around unscathed is just, not, right.
Oh so if we can't field over 1500 people that means that the entire south and the entire north is a no go area, and we should move back to lowsec? Riiiiiiiiight
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.07.26 18:59:00 -
[2060]
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn CAST YOUR VOTES FOR OR AGAINST THIS NANO NERF NOW:
Vote for it HERE.
Vote against it HERE.
Funny how the thread against the nerf is longer.
Minority is always loudest, right? ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:00:00 -
[2061]
Originally by: Hehulk Edited by: Hehulk on 26/07/2008 18:52:28
Originally by: Matrix Skye Oh, you mean all of 0.0 is sovereign and player-owned? I don't know if you're playing the ****** or not. Either way the shoe fits. Wear it.
Again you show your ignorance. Alliances, as a rule of thumb that plenty of experience has show me, operate in two modes
1) Alliance leader tells his troops to relax, make some isk, go raid the hostiles next door to keep their PVP skills sharp and generally have some good old fasioned fun 2) Alliance leader says we're going to get some new space, everyone suit up. From then on you're talking about large BS slugfests, capitals droping like there's no tommorow, and lots of lag.
I know which I prefere, but there's a problem to that. When you go raid those hostiles, they'll get as many people as possible into a gang (Which in all fairness I can't say I fault, if people want to pew pew, shouldn't stop them) then come haring after you. Now, by this point you'll have caused what damage you can, all the idiots will be dead, those who watched channels will know your there and wil have safed up.
If your in nanos, their fleet needs to set it's self up to counter you. If your in general assorted slow ships, they'll bring whatever, damn how fast or slow you are, and just use jump bridges you drop on your head. I've seen it done, and I've done it plenty ot times. Now, nanos have a hope of escaping against a shit gang, something designed to stop them (Rapier, Curses, caldari and gallente rail boats, amarr pulse ships) will curb stomp them hard. The slow fleet will get slaughtered regardless of what the people you've just raided bring by virtue of sheer numbers.
Who's gona raid with that as the only option?
Also, how are nanos ruining your game? I can't see how tri nano gangs are effecting your mission running in motsu.
Use scouts to check next systems? Avoid roadblocks and use alternate routes? Move through a region fast and abandon it for another?
You dont ahve to loiter in an area until they have you cornered. You get in, kill what you can, and I doubt in 30-45min time you'll see the presence you're talking about. I know I havenet.
Hell, what prevents you from using long jumps to circumvent jump bridges? The gangs I operate in have done it to razor. ----------------- Friends Forever |
Sonreir
Gallente Band of Builders Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:01:00 -
[2062]
There is no such word as 'thusly'.
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Archetype02
Gallente Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:04:00 -
[2063]
Edited by: Archetype02 on 26/07/2008 19:04:52
Originally by: Sonreir There is no such word as 'thusly'.
there's also nothing meaningfull in this post.. if u want to be a spelling**** go find a forum where they discuss spelling.. eve forums are not the place for this..
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:04:00 -
[2064]
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn CAST YOUR VOTES FOR OR AGAINST THIS NANO NERF NOW:
Vote for it HERE.
Vote against it HERE.
Funny how the thread against the nerf is longer.
Minority is always loudest, right?
take some math classes
hint: check the replies vs checks, views vs checks. and *IF* ccp were to use those as an indication of any sort i hope they examine the alt and same-account-owner votes.
g' day
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Zabijucha
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:05:00 -
[2065]
Now Eve is quiet boring, it will be more boring. More boring game less $ for CCP.I hope that CCP will wake up soon and realize these changes are going to far.
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Glowy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:05:00 -
[2066]
Originally by: Mioelnir - Decreased web effect: so, how exactly is one supposed to stop a tanked ship from reapproching the gate, except by bringing so many people that you near-instapop it?
I ask why you insist that a tanked ship not be capable of surviving a whole 13km trip back to jump range. Would it really ruin Eve if someone flying a strong hull has the possibility of surviving your camps?
As it is only ships with "ludicrous" speed survive by re-approaching. Heaven forbid anyone else use that tactic......
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:05:00 -
[2067]
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Use scouts to check next systems? Avoid roadblocks and use alternate routes? Move through a region fast and abandon it for another?
You dont ahve to loiter in an area until they have you cornered. You get in, kill what you can, and I doubt in 30-45min time you'll see the presence you're talking about. I know I havenet.
Hell, what prevents you from using long jumps to circumvent jump bridges? The gangs I operate in have done it to razor.
Then you'll know that it's all a bit hit and miss. How many times can you go down the back route until they learn you always go down there and shove up a bridge? Ofc, alliance reaction times are variable. I've been in alliances that takes forever to form up, and I've raided those who seem to form a 25 man gang for 5 invaders inside 5 minutes.
Serous curiosity: What type of gangs do you take to raid razor? ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |
Commander Tigre
Minmatar Killed In Action
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:09:00 -
[2068]
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Felysta Sandorn CAST YOUR VOTES FOR OR AGAINST THIS NANO NERF NOW:
Vote for it HERE.
Vote against it HERE.
Funny how the thread against the nerf is longer.
Minority is always loudest, right?
That is a false assumption.
"We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, your already dead." - Commander Tigre |
ZW Dewitt
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:09:00 -
[2069]
Originally by: Matrix Skye take some math classes
hint: check the replies vs checks, views vs checks. and *IF* ccp were to use those as an indication of any sort i hope they examine the alt and same-account-owner votes.
g' day
Take some statistics classes
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.26 19:13:00 -
[2070]
Originally by: ZW Dewitt
Originally by: Matrix Skye take some math classes
hint: check the replies vs checks, views vs checks. and *IF* ccp were to use those as an indication of any sort i hope they examine the alt and same-account-owner votes.
g' day
Take some statistics classes
Helping my case and I bet you're not even realizing it, are ya?
Not very bright you are. Read the page you just linked to me.
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