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Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:29:00 - [1] There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it.
Cahpimon	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:30:00 - [2] so, what do you want it to be able to do? sit there and look cool?
Aneu Angellus Caldari Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. Please go back to WoW ________________ REVIVAL
Fangedterror Caldari Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:31:00 - [4] HELL YES! Nerf the Hell out of ECM so i can solo pawn things again. Need some Help with EVE? -Guides -Ship Setups -People Singing for their ships -Eve Time Cards -and MORE!!!! www.eve-onlineguides.com
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:31:00 - [5] After these changes, the range of the falcon might need to be looked at. I don't think its overall jamming strength is overpowered to be honest. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Sidewayzracer Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:31:00 - [7] Originally by: Cahpimon so, what do you want it to be able to do? sit there and look cool? go back to the way it used to be, so it has a greater chance to miss a cycle.
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit nope, nerf it.
Sidewayzracer Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Borat Sangdiev Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit nope, nerf it. NO U
Major Stallion The Dark Horses	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit yes there is...jam chance is a simple division problem. if the answer = 1..perma jam.

Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Borat Sangdiev Originally by: Sidewayzracer Originally by: Borat Sangdiev There should be no ship that is allowed to completely disable your ability to target back and fight. Perma jamming falcons and ecm are overpowered. nerf it. no such thing as perma jamming only you being a completly unlucky tit nope, nerf it. K NO U
Aneu Angellus Caldari Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:34:00 - [12] They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM ________________ REVIVAL
Armoured C Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:35:00 - [13] nerf your moms i mean the ship of course
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:35:00 - [14] its obvious its been a FotM ship for some time. the condom of pvp. nerf it.
Queen Ba'Ku The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:40:00 - [15] tbh he has a point, they are way overpowered. Falcons can permajam a few ships at once basically rendering a fleet useless and thats just silly especially when some can jam way over 150km and cloak as well!
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku tbh he has a point, they are way overpowered. Falcons can permajam a few ships at once basically rendering a fleet useless and thats just silly especially when some can jam way over 150km and cloak as well! this
SereneSally Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Aneu Angellus They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM Oh stop - no one really fits ECCM mods as a general setup
Nyakk Tradetard	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:41:00 - [18] Originally by: Borat Sangdiev its obvious its been a FotM ship for some time. the condom of pvp. nerf it. you say it like it would be a bad thing. oh and since you took so much effort for this thread. NO U!!!
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:41:00 - [19] Stop whining about every ship that can actually effectively do the very exact thing it is meant to do. By the way, the Rook has had the same exact jamming strength that the Falcon has now all along, inbetween the ECM nerf in late 2006 and the Falcon boost in Trinity. And yet no one whined about it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are pleased to aim! Or was that the other way around?
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:42:00 - [20] Originally by: SereneSally Originally by: Aneu Angellus They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM Oh stop - no one really fits ECCM mods as a general setup Perhaps they should. Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are pleased to aim! Or was that the other way around?

baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Borat Sangdiev its obvious its been a FotM ship for some time. the condom of pvp. nerf it. I jammed and scrammed an assault ship in my badger II and watched it die screaming in fustration. Should badger IIs be nerfed too?
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:43:00 - [22] Originally by: Nyakk Tradetard Originally by: Borat Sangdiev its obvious its been a FotM ship for some time. the condom of pvp. nerf it. you say it like it would be a bad thing. oh and since you took so much effort for this thread. NO U!!! my sensors detect someone who has a falcon alt. just admit it's overpoweredness.
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:44:00 - [23] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Borat Sangdiev its obvious its been a FotM ship for some time. the condom of pvp. nerf it. I jammed and scrammed an assault ship in my badger II and watched it die screaming in fustration. Should badger IIs be nerfed too? yes
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Stop whining about every ship that can actually effectively do the very exact thing it is meant to do. By the way, the Rook has had the same exact jamming strength that the Falcon has now all along, inbetween the ECM nerf in late 2006 and the Falcon boost in Trinity. And yet no one whined about it. nerf rook.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:48:00 - [25] Originally by: SereneSally Originally by: Aneu Angellus They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM Oh stop - no one really fits ECCM mods as a general setup Slow down there skippy - you have a module that protects you pretty damn well (juuust shy of -50% chance to jam per jammer) and you STILL complain? Fair enough - throw out the ECCM module altogether and make it a Sensor Booster Script. Problem sovled. If you can't find room for a Sensor Booster you clearly don't care about your EWAR resistance.
SereneSally Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Originally by: SereneSally Originally by: Aneu Angellus They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM Oh stop - no one really fits ECCM mods as a general setup Perhaps they should. Still wouldnt be enough with the jamming strengh and bonuses of the falcon, dont think even a whole rack would help
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: SereneSally Originally by: Aneu Angellus They are called ECCM Modules... USE THEM Oh stop - no one really fits ECCM mods as a general setup Slow down there skippy - you have a module that protects you pretty damn well (juuust shy of -50% chance to jam per jammer) and you STILL complain? Fair enough - throw out the ECCM module altogether and make it a Sensor Booster Script. Problem sovled. If you can't find room for a Sensor Booster you clearly don't care about your EWAR resistance. how about no, and make the falcon have a range/strength script just like every other racial ewar. nerf falcons. you know it must be done.
Plave Okice Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Tarminic After these changes, the range of the falcon might need to be looked at. I don't think its overall jamming strength is overpowered to be honest. Yup, agreed. The jamming strength is reasonable, the range maybe not so. With ships slowing down considerably it'll much harder to try and force Falcons away now. The nerf falcon whines are going to grow and grow sadly. Would you like to know more?
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku tbh he has a point, they are way overpowered. Falcons can permajam a few ships at once basically rendering a fleet useless and thats just silly especially when some can jam way over 150km and cloak as well! no they aren't and no they can't. they can't even permajam a single HAC 100% of the time. So stop making things up because you cant be bothered to learn to counter them. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Borat Sangdiev	Posted - 2008.07.29 14:58:00 - [30] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku tbh he has a point, they are way overpowered. Falcons can permajam a few ships at once basically rendering a fleet useless and thats just silly especially when some can jam way over 150km and cloak as well! no they aren't and no they can't. they can't even permajam a single HAC 100% of the time. So stop making things up because you cant be bothered to learn to counter them. you say it like they should be able to jam a single hac 100% of the time. they shouldnt be able to even get close to permajamming even a single ship. 60% of the time is fair. Nerf falcons/ECM.



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