EVE Online: Inferno has been deployed. TQ is up and docking requests are being accepted.

This thread is for issues that you may encounter and is intended to help our devs quickly spot problems that can occur following a big expansion.

If you want to tell us what you think of Inferno, the general feedback thread can be found here.

Ship pictures haven't updated it seems.

Right clicking a carrier doesn't show the different bays and all..i know unified inventory and all but this was a very usable function..can you replace that please?

Oh and, damn those new launchers are badass!

Ship pictures haven't updated it seems.

New asset window keeps appearing each time I jump through a gate - like the new window but getting tedious

To those that asked, you can only open your extra hangers buy shift clicking the name in the tree view, this will open them in separate windows, but the windows will close and not re-open if you undock and re-dock.

We did tell them, many times, and asked they be left on the right click menu's, but you have the result

Well.....

For those who did not try the new inventory system on SISI, or read the forum threads, we have been nagging CCP to death over this crap for the last month.

They refused to listen and blindly charged ahead with this pile of **** regardless.

It is clear that it was a blatant lie by CCP to say that they now listen to the players and have our interests at heart. NOT TRUE.

So, everyone needs to make it plain to CCP how bad this is and how unhappy people are about it. Trust me, the more you use it, the more you will hate it.

why does the inventory of the ship i am flying open every time i jump through a gate.?

Please fix or let us know how to stop this

When I start Eve the initial picture that comes up is still the one from Escalation rather than Inferno (like the picture you get when you start up the singularity client).

Patch Note:

Kill mails will now be known as kill reports.

"Shows the total amount of money lost by the other player."

Thats why we see there 0.0 ISK :P

Have you tried clearing the cache?

Clear your settings, that fixed it for me. CCP doesn't know how to make **** backwards-compatible, apparently.

Follow up - timer did not show as running, but it DID run down,

I didn't get any LP even though I was in the plex - I got a mail saying

Not qualified for loyalty points in militia effort
From: 24th Imperial Crusade
Sent: 2012.05.22 13:53

Although you were present at the capture of enemy dungeon in Oyonata, the following circumstances prevent you from qualifying for loyalty points for your effort:
You were too far away from the target.

I was IN the plex, but not on the timer. Do we have to be within capture distance (i.e. running the timer) to get the LP? If so, that sucks as we often have members spread around a plex and not on a timer (e.g. camping the warp in with a single person running it down).

Patch notes don't seem to indicate this is a requirement.

Factional Warfare sites now give Loyalty Points when captured: GùªMinor sites: 10,000 LPs
Gùª Standard sites: 17,500 LPs
Gùª Major sites: 25,000 LPs
Gùª Major Stronghold or Major Compound sites: 30,000 LPs
Gùª Infrastructure Hubs: 40,000 LPs

GÇó All LP gains are split among all eligible members. Example: Two Amarr enlisted players capturing a Minmatar or Gallente Minor site would only receive 5,000 LPs for the 24th Imperial Crusade each.

no joy :(

Just scanned down a sansha base, my alt was trying to use a noctis to salvage and the initial acceleration gate says unsupported ship type. Is this a glitch as i did not read in the patch notes that there were changes.

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why does the inventory of the ship i am flying open every time i jump through a gate.?

Please fix or let us know how to stop this

The Target Spectrum Breaker description concludes with :


Note: Will affect all targeting computers, including those of friendly vessels and of the host ship itself. Can be fitted to Battleship, Black Ops and Marauder class ships. Prototype Inferno Module.


Might want to remove the last sentence.

THIS IS BROADCAST FOR EVERYONE.

CCP OVERLOOKED OPTION -> ESC -> GENERAL SETTINGS -> "Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel"

SOMEHOW IT ESCAPED THE CLUTCHES OF UNIFIED INVENTORY AND STILL WORKS AS INTENDED.

AMARRIAN GOD PLEASE HELP US ALL TO FORGIVE DEVS FOR THIS NEW INVENTORY SYSTEM.

Super Friends like to keep that sentence there, haters gonna hate!

Yeah Amarr ships look just dirty. YUK!

Interesting how the Devs are answering the easy questions here, but totally ignoring the HUGE unified inventory issue. Just like on the other threads over the last month.

CCP listening.... don't make me laugh

Hi,

Seems I still need to have the recial Battleship V to fly capitals. Was that not supposed to be changed in this expansion? I do recall there was a big blog with discussions around it?

Hi,

Seems I still need to have the recial Battleship V to fly capitals. Was that not supposed to be changed in this expansion? I do recall there was a big blog with discussions around it?

Not yet. That was our longterm plan for ship balance, but it has not been implemented.

The unified inventory sucks

Gve the old inventory, cagohold, corp hanger back to ous.

New one makes it a bloody pain to manage ones accets.
Know U can open diff. windows(click+shift), but that goes out the air lock as soon as one undocks
Next time one docks one have to do them all again (click+shift) there in is the bloody pain.

Fixed might also be to make it remeber the docked in station setup, just a idea...

Time spent doing stuff like that is less space flying time and that ain't ok...


BTW Disapointed
NO new ship or ships in this expantion???

Is there a date on that implementation?

Please replace with the old inventory, I really need to have multiple windows open at the same time.

Nem

There isn't a single date as it's an overhaul of pretty much all ships. You should get it in batches, hopefully starting with the lower tier of the ship tree this winter.

Try clearing cache, too.

To be fair, I've monitored forums like this. The people monitoring these pretty much know nothing. I don't mean to be offensive, but the actual dev's do not have time to monitor these forums. Thats what more "people friendly" or "socially normal" people are for. I also don't mean to say that dev's can't talk to other people, but well... no they usually can't... :D

Sometimes when I jump through a gate, my inventory just automatically opens up on it's own :O

Needs more dots

thank you very much! I'm a pretty people friendly dev, and I'm here replying to the issues on the features me and my team worked on in this release, War Decs, Modules and Kill Reports mainly

I'd file that under "silly".

Not as silly as ships flying backwards, but still pretty strange.

Wouldn't it be more productive if the Replys from the "Devs" focus on actual issues rather just in chatting about what someone wrote? I'm still awaiting on a contact form support, but seems to me that nobody cares about the fact that there is a bug and users can't get in the game and actually do something call "PLAY".

thanks for the support.

Wouldn't it be more productive if the Replys from the "Devs" focus on actual issues rather just in chatting about what someone wrote? I'm still awaiting on a contact form support, but seems to me that nobody cares about the fact that there is a bug and users can't get in the game and actually do something call "PLAY".

thanks for the support.

Wouldn't it be more productive if the Replys from the "Devs" focus on actual issues rather just in chatting about what someone wrote? I'm still awaiting on a contact form support, but seems to me that nobody cares about the fact that there is a bug and users can't get in the game and actually do something call "PLAY".

thanks for the support.

I have to agree, but how long have you waited? Cause aren't they supposed to get back to you in 24 hours or less? Doesn't mean right away.

To be helpful too, have you tried the repair tool? Have you tried downloading the installer again? I know that takes time but it told me to do the same. Thankfully a system reboot and a few more tries/repairs fixed it all.

Buy a PC.

Just noting that as said since Unified Inventory went on SiSi, it still doesn't work. The original concept was good, but the implementation (Especially the rage-inducing element of redoing inventory every time you do anything) is woefully bad.
Also, floating cargo cans are a mess, and I haven't even tried to salvage anything yet.

Hotfix or rollback.

As posted on the previous page, the closing/reverting windows issue is a bug that will be fixed asap.

As posted on the previous page, the closing/reverting windows issue is a bug that will be fixed asap.

I am glad that you're working to fix it, but I do not understand why it wasn't fixed before going on TQ - after all the issue was glaringly obvious on SiSi and it was reported and demonstrated numerous times on this forum.

As posted during the last month, what about the rest of all the issues you have been made aware of sooooooo many times ?

I'd file that under "silly".

Not as silly as ships flying backwards, but still pretty strange.

I've also noticed that ships seem to explode before the missiles hit (at least when I tried it they did).

I'll happily answer, but you'll need to specifically list an issue.

I'll happily answer, but you'll need to specifically list an issue.

I usually run with a minimal number of inventory windows, so the changes aren't causing me too many issues. However, I set up a few filters to sort through my mission loot hangar. I've been collecting for several months anticipating the changes, so I have somewhere near the limit of items with 5-10 items in each stack.

On applying a filter and moving the contents to an indy, EVE shoots to 10-15% CPU and starves my network connection. I even had "this program has stopped responding" pop up once when moving the cargo to a corp hangar.

This shifts the management of large numbers of items from annoying in the old system to nearly impossible now, especially if I disconnect half way through. Need a fix asap.

I had this...
'Reset to Default Window Positions' appears to have cleared it and I'm station/system hopping quite a bit at the moment...

I'd file that under "silly".

Not as silly as ships flying backwards, but still pretty strange.

New asset window keeps appearing each time I jump through a gate - like the new window but getting tedious

Updates to the EVE Client will be done through the launcher from now on.

Here's my problem with the current build of the new UI on Sisi:

Let's say I start docked in Aldrat IX - Pator Tech School.

I open the Inventory and shift-click 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' to open them in separate windows, then I move those two new 'Ship' and 'Item' windows to the top-right corner of my screen and resize them to show, let's say 4 rows and 4 columns. I also stack them so now I have a 'Ship Hangar' tab and an 'Item Hangar' tab.

Exhibit A: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/1.jpg


---== Issue #1 ==---
Now I undock, warp across Aldrat to the Caldari Business Tribunal station, and dock there. Lo and behold the 'Item Hangar' and 'Ship Hangar' windows I created have disappeared.

Exhibit B: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/2.jpg

If I now click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom I get the original Inventory window, and I then have to repeat the initial steps above to recreate my ships/item windows.

This happens every time I undock/redock, whether at the same station, a different station in the same system or in another system entirely.

On Tranquility, when I open these two windows and resize and arrange them how I want, they will open in the same position at the same size in every station when I dock. They will even remember which tab was selected!

Having this information instantly available whenever I dock is very useful - please don't make me have to do more clicking to get it


---== Issue #2 ==---
The ship hangar does not show my currently active ship, either in the list view or in the separate 'Ship Hanger' window created with a shift-click. On Tranquility all ships in the hangar are, well, listed in the hangar!


---== Issue #3 ==---
Let's return to the beginning where I had separated out the 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' windows to the top-right of my screen (exhibit A).

Now if I click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom, I get a side-menu asking me to choose either the 'Ship Hangar' or 'Item Hangar' to switch to instead of an Inventory window opening. Shift-clicking this button does exactly the same thing (i.e. nothing).

Now, my intuitive expectation is that clicking this button should open up an new Inventory window (or re-open the 'base' Inventory window). I'd be prepared to accept a shift-click for this functionality instead


---== Issue #4 ==---
The 'xxx isk Est. price' bar at the bottom of the Inventory windows is redundant for me in 99.5% of situations and is just wasting space. Please give me the option to turn it off!


---== Issue #5 ==---
The 'Open Drone Bay' option is missing from the context menu when I right-click my ship in the hangar.


--== Issue #6 ==---
Again, this is something that is very counter-intuitive to me:

Let's say I open up my ship's cargo hold in a separate window, move it to the LHS of my screen and resize it to show 2x3 items.

Now I undock and do some stuff in space. During the course of doing this stuff I drag my 'Ship Cargo' window over to the RHS of my screen. Now I dock up again. As soon as I do this my cargo window shifts back over to the LHS where I originally had it.

Please let my windows stay where I put them as they currently do on Tranquility!


---== Issue #7 ==---
When I double-click my ship in the main ship-spinny hangar view, it opens the "main" Inventory window instead of my smaller ship's 'Cargo Hold' window. It does this regardless of whether I have a 'Cargo Hold' window open or not...

Double-clicking a ship in this view really should just go straight to the cargo without opening a large Inventory window that covers two thirds of my screen.


That's all I've got for the time being, and so far I've only tested some of the more basic things I do in EVE like moving stuff around between stations. I haven't tested the UI functionality when I'm salvaging, hacking, running a mission or looting wrecks...


In its current state I have to say that I'm not looking forward to it being deployed on Tranquility

o7
Captain Praxis

Edit Corp hanger does not open like it use to when right clicked.

https://bugs.eveonline.com/files/182522163311.jpg


When warping to a POS with roles for said POS, my unified inventory is blown up by all of the guns/modules etc that are on it. It would make much more sense, and be much easier to have the POS, and really all new entries in the Index to by default be minimized.
I assume this would also happen when you are in a massive capital/super fleet, and everybody turns on configure (so that they may refit off each other) at which point they will have to minimize EVERYBODY'S tab in the index

To those of you who are just finding out about the unified inventory. This feature has been live on the test server for weeks now. In addition to that it has been announced on the forums for even longer. It is completely ridiculous of you to be so angry/upset over a feature that you should have known was coming. Note that I am *NOT* talking about those of you who are having problems with it, just those that didn't bother to give feedback or test it.

Regarding the release problems, I understand that it is frustrating to not have all the things working 100% but please name an expansion that has been bug free? Name one from any MMO that has been bug free? They don't exist! NO one does it 100% right, not Blizzard, Bioware, Sony, etc. It sucks, and I really want everything to work right but this kind of project is not a science, its an art. Chill out, give them time, and continue the feedback. In the meantime, work with what ya got.

Part of the problem is that we do not have enough people testing on the test server. I myself am just as guilty of this as anyone. Some problems only present themselves under certain conditions and having just 100 people on a test server doesn't give the variety of situations necessary to expose bugs. Lets all commit to being on the test server more so that we can help CCP work toward smoother releases in the future.

Vexx

Not every player reads forum and checks new features on Sisi, aren't they allowed to express their opinions post-expansion? I think they still pay2play.

Interesting how the Devs are answering the easy questions here, but totally ignoring the HUGE unified inventory issue. Just like on the other threads over the last month.

CCP listening.... don't make me laugh

The new wardec system looks pretty good, a full list of wars without searching was a great idea, but as someone wrote, they were able to dec thier own alliance!? There are days when i miss null sec, and today is one of them haha.

To those of you who are just finding out about the unified inventory. This feature has been live on the test server for weeks now. In addition to that it has been announced on the forums for even longer. It is completely ridiculous of you to be so angry/upset over a feature that you should have known was coming. Note that I am *NOT* talking about those of you who are having problems with it, just those that didn't bother to give feedback or test it.

Issue #3124: You cannot name corp hangers and SMAs even though their right click option gives you "Set Name". Instead all SMAs and corp hangers appear as the standard name when next to 20 of them in the inventory.

:trollface?:

Theres a delay in cloaking of the new torpedo launchers (only tested on the manticore)

NOTE: YOU CAN VIEW SECTIONS OF YOUR ITEMS IN SEPARATE WINDOWS BY SHIFT-CLICKING THE WINDOW YOU WANT TO SEPARATE!!!

The ship and item hangers are required more than anything else, having to work down a tree to open them is a pain. If you minimise them they stay but still two clicks away. This needs changing.

this bug has been there for a very long time

I pay money to play the game not to test it. If I was a tester, CCP would be paying me.

Totally agree, i dont get why they say they listen to players when all weve seen is people complain about this. Think CCP havent heard of "if it aint broke, dont fix it"

This is by design; players wishing to get rewards have to be actually contributing to the capture. Good catch on the path notes thought, thanks for pointing that out.

Yea but now the bug is worse since you get 10 SMAs in your inventory list with the same name.

just so you know that I am actually trying this before rating and raving

salvaging wrecks...........dbl click wreck opens window, loot all then refreshes that said window to now show contents of cargohold even if you have a seperate cargohold window open.....then when you dbl click the next wreck, it refreshes the hold window to show the wreck contents. etc etc

the problem with this is that its creating lag/a definite delay, by having to constantly update itself.

Its just something else that youve introduced which is a step backward imo, unless its a stealth nerf to stop missioners salvaging now.

I pay money to play the game not to test it. If I was a tester, CCP would be paying me.

EVE Online: Inferno has been deployed. TQ is up and docking requests are being accepted.

This thread is for issues that you may encounter and is intended to help our devs quickly spot problems that can occur following a big expansion.

I pay money to play the game not to test it. If I was a tester, CCP would be paying me.

^^ Idiot!
That is exactly the point! YOU HAVE TO SHIFT-CLICK every time you want to open a window separately! We NO like dis! UNDERSTAND?

so you are going to blow up the forums over something that is obviously something that you are only complaining about because you can? it's one extra click whoopdy do... they wont change that... so get over it and stop blowing up the forums, there are multiple other more important matter to be attended to by CCP than an extra mouse click... gtfo the forums

so you are going to blow up the forums over something that is obviously something that you are only complaining about because you can? it's one extra click whoopdy do... they wont change that... so get over it and stop blowing up the forums, there are multiple other more important matter to be attended to by CCP than an extra mouse click... gtfo the forums

so you are going to blow up the forums over something that is obviously something that you are only complaining about because you can? it's one extra click whoopdy do... they wont change that... so get over it and stop blowing up the forums, there are multiple other more important matter to be attended to by CCP than an extra mouse click... gtfo the forums

Here's my problem with the current build of the new UI on Sisi:

Let's say I start docked in Aldrat IX - Pator Tech School.

I open the Inventory and shift-click 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' to open them in separate windows, then I move those two new 'Ship' and 'Item' windows to the top-right corner of my screen and resize them to show, let's say 4 rows and 4 columns. I also stack them so now I have a 'Ship Hangar' tab and an 'Item Hangar' tab.

Exhibit A: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/1.jpg


---== Issue #1 ==---
Now I undock, warp across Aldrat to the Caldari Business Tribunal station, and dock there. Lo and behold the 'Item Hangar' and 'Ship Hangar' windows I created have disappeared.

Exhibit B: http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/r555/CaptainPraxis/uitest/2.jpg

If I now click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom I get the original Inventory window, and I then have to repeat the initial steps above to recreate my ships/item windows.

This happens every time I undock/redock, whether at the same station, a different station in the same system or in another system entirely.

On Tranquility, when I open these two windows and resize and arrange them how I want, they will open in the same position at the same size in every station when I dock. They will even remember which tab was selected!

Having this information instantly available whenever I dock is very useful - please don't make me have to do more clicking to get it


---== Issue #2 ==---
The ship hangar does not show my currently active ship, either in the list view or in the separate 'Ship Hanger' window created with a shift-click. On Tranquility all ships in the hangar are, well, listed in the hangar!


---== Issue #3 ==---
Let's return to the beginning where I had separated out the 'Ship Hangar' and 'Item Hangar' windows to the top-right of my screen (exhibit A).

Now if I click the 'Inventory' button on the Neocom, I get a side-menu asking me to choose either the 'Ship Hangar' or 'Item Hangar' to switch to instead of an Inventory window opening. Shift-clicking this button does exactly the same thing (i.e. nothing).

Now, my intuitive expectation is that clicking this button should open up an new Inventory window (or re-open the 'base' Inventory window). I'd be prepared to accept a shift-click for this functionality instead


---== Issue #4 ==---
The 'xxx isk Est. price' bar at the bottom of the Inventory windows is redundant for me in 99.5% of situations and is just wasting space. Please give me the option to turn it off!


---== Issue #5 ==---
The 'Open Drone Bay' option is missing from the context menu when I right-click my ship in the hangar.


--== Issue #6 ==---
Again, this is something that is very counter-intuitive to me:

Let's say I open up my ship's cargo hold in a separate window, move it to the LHS of my screen and resize it to show 2x3 items.

Now I undock and do some stuff in space. During the course of doing this stuff I drag my 'Ship Cargo' window over to the RHS of my screen. Now I dock up again. As soon as I do this my cargo window shifts back over to the LHS where I originally had it.

Please let my windows stay where I put them as they currently do on Tranquility!


---== Issue #7 ==---
When I double-click my ship in the main ship-spinny hangar view, it opens the "main" Inventory window instead of my smaller ship's 'Cargo Hold' window. It does this regardless of whether I have a 'Cargo Hold' window open or not...

Double-clicking a ship in this view really should just go straight to the cargo without opening a large Inventory window that covers two thirds of my screen.


That's all I've got for the time being, and so far I've only tested some of the more basic things I do in EVE like moving stuff around between stations. I haven't tested the UI functionality when I'm salvaging, hacking, running a mission or looting wrecks...


In its current state I have to say that I'm not looking forward to it being deployed on Tranquility

o7
Captain Praxis

Edit Corp hanger does not open like it use to when right clicked.

so you are going to blow up the forums over something that is obviously something that you are only complaining about because you can? it's one extra click whoopdy do... they wont change that... so get over it and stop blowing up the forums, there are multiple other more important matter to be attended to by CCP than an extra mouse click... gtfo the forums

....

Most of the times in any of the above activities you have to manage MULTIPLE windows and when it comes to PVP, time of of the essence. It is not as easy as you think, it is not only "one extra click", but multiple extra clicks over and over again and browsing through that tree inventory window every time you want to do whatever. It might not seem too complicated for you, but for someone that does more than ratting and managing a couple of ships IT IS.

Right, futher to my earlier post,

I can no longer Right click > sell on my BPOs? Did i miss something?

You really don't get it, do you ?

Judging by you killboard record and your age in game, I can tell that you have close to NONE experience in PVP and industry, manufacturing, inventions, POS's and about any other aspect of the game besides rating in null sec, but I will give you an insight.

Most of the times in any of the above activities you have to manage MULTIPLE windows and when it comes to PVP, time of of the essence. It is not as easy as you think, it is not only "one extra click", but multiple extra clicks over and over again and browsing through that tree inventory window every time you want to do whatever. It might not seem too complicated for you, but for someone that does more than ratting and managing a couple of ships IT IS.

Thank you and now pls GTFO!

Soundwave can you take a look at my recommendations and tell if there possible or planned please as i honestly think they would solve a lot of complaints

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1338033#post1338033

1: We're really trying to thin down the right click menu, so I'd prefer not having them back. One thing we could look into is shortcuts to different sections of the unified inventory? So you'd still open the unified inventory, but just on the exact tab you want.

2: Definately dealing with this. Not sure what the solution is but needs to be dealt with.

3: Fixed in tomorrows patch over downtime.

4: This doesn't have much to do with the unified inventory, but yes, I completely agree.

ESC -> GENERAL SETTINGS -> "Merge Items and Ships into Station Panel"

4: This doesn't have much to do with the unified inventory, but yes, I completely agree.