If by attacked you mean having to be at your keyboard, than yes.

And would only be true if it could be proved that miners weren't actually ATK.

I am seeing this AFK Miner to mean ALL miners lately. It's the new meme. I used to spend many, many hours, mining on a multi-screen affair, absolutely ATK while I worked on coding client websites.

Of course, this now raises the spectre of whether I should be allowed to do that, yes?

Of course, this now raises the spectre of whether I should be allowed to do that, yes?

And would only be true if it could be proved that miners weren't actually ATK.

I am seeing this AFK Miner to mean ALL miners lately. It's the new meme. I used to spend many, many hours, mining on a multi-screen affair, absolutely ATK while I worked on coding client websites.

Of course, this now raises the spectre of whether I should be allowed to do that, yes?

what if the miners just formed a fleet and had a blackbird or an ashimmu web their ships or something idk

what if the miners just formed a fleet and had a blackbird or an ashimmu web their ships or something idk

Sounds like a fine example of emergent game-play.

And you really think that that's a good way for EVE to go? Allowing miners to sacrifice anything in order to gain the ability to play the game without any interaction at all?

Wait, what? I may be misunderstanding you, but did you just imply that being able to do something else instead of playing EVE and still profit is a fine example of emergent gameplay?

Wait, what? I may be misunderstanding you, but did you just imply that being able to do something else instead of playing EVE and still profit is a fine example of emergent gameplay?

No, he's saying the enforcement of people being not able to do other things besides play EVE and still profit is a fine example of emergent gameplay.

A miner spends all day ripping roids isolated from the entire game.

However.....

- He takes it back to station and refines then sells it to the first buy order.

Thus, we can deduce that MinerMan has absolutely no "interaction" on the game and may as well play purely on a client.

Fixed

Miners whine that people can steal from them and they should be able to defend themselves against people who steal from them. CCP says okay and implements aggression for stealing.


Miners cry about not being able to kill the people who steal from them by themselves and they need everyone else in space to help them to "Make it fair". CCP says okay and we get crimewatch 2.0.

Miners cry about insurance payouts for gankig. CCP says okay and removes insurance payouts for ganking.

Miners cry about their untanked ships not having enough EHP. CCP says okay and increases mining barge and exhumer EHP.

Now miners are crying about people bumping their ships. Given the pattern of pandering to the every whim of miners I'm going to bet we'll see something about this in patch notes soon.

So ultimately everything the ass hat patrol "resorts to" will be whined about.

I don't see any innocent party here.

what if the miners just formed a fleet and had a blackbird or an ashimmu web their ships or something idk

They are bloated, immobile parasites slowly sucking the life out of the game and every attempt CCP attempts to itch just further embeds them.

It isn't that they don't know that there are things that they can do, they just don't care because they feel entitled to being able to do sit AFK i an untanked ship for long periods of time with their 3 year old character who is still in an NPC corp without any other player so much as glancing at them.

They feel that they are entitled to that because CCP constantly reinforces their belief by capitulating to them time and time again.

You have to give them one thing.

It works.

I don't get the big issue. Sure James315 is a delusional, lonely individual. Yeah, the lemmings that follow him and his "New Order" are idiots. So what?

I suggest that you simply block any and all of the "New Order" drones when they come on in local. It isn't about the ISK and it isn't about the rantings of James315, it is all about getting attention. Ignore them and they bet bored. Sure you might get bumped. So you lose a few cycles, big deal. If no one pays any attention to them, it isn't "fun" for them. You can't grief if no-one gives a damn.

Giving them any attention is the last and worst thing you should do.

I don't get the big issue. Sure James315 is a delusional, lonely individual. Yeah, the lemmings that follow him and his "New Order" are idiots. So what?

Again, I'll ask why is it that people just don't move to another system with their precious ice and ore belts? There are dozens in Caldari space to chose from, and even if they are a bit further ways out from Jita, they are quieter aren't they?

they are a bit further ways out from Jita

Well, you see there are many factors and ...

Ah.

Again, I'll ask why is it that people just don't move to another system with their precious ice and ore belts? There are dozens in Caldari space to chose from, and even if they are a bit further ways out from Jita, they are quieter aren't they?