How is it any different from bumping people on the undock or bumping people to prevent them warping? same mechanic, same result.

As a member of the belligerently undesirable group that the OP is complaining about, if a bunch of miners can actually team up to provide some meaningful content, instead of hammering away at chunks of ice all day, then more power to them.

That would mean that some of the aims of the New Order have been accomplished, we will have forced you to be aware that Eve is a social game where both actions and inactions have consequences. Currently some Ice miners are guilty of inaction, the consequences are that they get bumped, the inaction in this case is twofold, one is failure to purchase a permit, the other is a failure to actually play the game instead of plugging away at inexhaustible resources.

How is it any different from bumping people on the undock or bumping people to prevent them warping? same mechanic, same result.

Bumping someone off a station has strategic value if they're playing docking games, and bumping to prevent warp falls under the same umbrella. Bumping in those situations actually sounds like a neat tool in PvP.

Miner bumping at its core is just harassment, and if I had to defend it as an activity it would be "Eve is neat because people can be obnoxious and it's A-OK!" Or, to put it another way, take that Eve is Real video and replace large scale PvP fights with people bumping miners. Would you really want to show that to your friends when you tell them how cool the game is? I sure as hell wouldn't.

And just a FYI, I gave up mining a long time ago and am not really affected by this either way.

"I was there. We went to this ice field and there were miners mining ice, and we weren't going to let that happen. Not without bumping. And then 5 new miners warped into the field. But the fleet commander, he kept it together. They were expecting me to fly 50 clicks at max speed in the general direction of the miners. I didn't know if I was gonna make it. And then I bounced off the miner, because collisions don't occur in eve. And then I ran to the forums to tell everyone. I was there."

Make ice and roids destructible so they can be obliterated by guns. Bumping problem solved!

Make ice and roids destructible so they can be obliterated by guns. Bumping problem solved!

Make ice and roids destructible so they can be obliterated by guns. Bumping problem solved!

How is it that miners always have such ****** representation on the forums?

"I was there. We went to this ice field and there were miners mining ice, and we wanted to mine ice as well. Not without bing able to AFK in peace and safety. And then 5 new miners warped into the field. But the fleet commander, he kept it together. They knew ice never runs out, so we kept on mining. I didn't know if I was gonna make it. Then the Orca arrived, it helped us with its bonuses. And then I ran to the forums to tell everyone. I was there."

What gives you the right to think you can force upon your own dumbass "idea" of how this great game of Eve should be played? Mining is a very viable career choice for many players. If that's how THEY want to play, who are you to say they aren't "actually playing the game"? Your one-sided, flawed logic is almost laughable. Except I feel sorry for you

So yup, let's jump straight to it and have anyone who bumps a barge get concorded already.

CCP looks at the amount of money they make off the vast majority that PvE and makes it so...

At some point the vocal minority has to realize where all the sand in the sandbox is coming from.

Doesn't work.


Heard a rumour bumpers can also scan. back to 1 maybe?


THAT is the smart one - as long as you're not constantly followed.

Then it MIGHT be deemed griefing....

Miners cry about not being able to kill the people who steal from them by themselves and they need everyone else in space to help them to "Make it fair". CCP says okay and we get crimewatch 2.0.

There is a very easy way to beat James315. Move to another system.

How can people be so dumb and get so frustrated when the answer is so simple?

You know the most ironic part of this whole thread? OP is probably just James315's alt trying to get more attention for his crappy bumping that nobody cares about.

I have been in contact with many industrialists and we are pooling our resources to higher mercs to deal with them. I would like to take this opportunity to ask for any donations our wealthy fellow industrialists are willing to offer. Our only hope is to fight fire with fire. This character doesn't have many combat skills, but I'm looking into acquiring a fighter, I advise you to do the same.

There's also tear mass tanking, where you weigh your ship down with so much QQ that you can't be bumped.

Tsk tsk tsk, when all you need is bump the bumper...and it's the easiest thing to do to get their tears in local