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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
253
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:05:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Riot Girl wrote: Our KBs were let down by the miners though, of course. because KB > ?
A training corp with a bad KB is an easy target.
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baltec1
Bat Country
2627
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:05:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote: Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.
My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???
Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall
It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship with a better base tank than some of the heavy assault ships. |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:08:00 -
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Robert De'Arneth wrote:And knowing where I *live* is going to make me pay you? How are you going to make me pay you is my next question? I can move around, I could hop in another ship. My point is sir, you cannot ever make me pay you 1 isk. You think because the op is crying that every miner is going to cry. Your mining bump means squat to me. I can do other things, I could even move to a new system and keep making you follow me. But one thing you will never do is make me pay isk for getting bumped. LOL. I have 2 kids, I know how to deal with children. Your issue is this, you think these forums paint a picture of everyone who plays this game. So if you want to come extort from me, do your own looking. Just know you will waste quite a bit of time. I am also one of those AFK cloakers everyone cries about.  I will leave the game on all day while cloaked.  You are quite funny. I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec, as well as the purpose of individual bumpers and the purpose of my asking where you live.
You see, the Order is not motivated by profit. Neither are its Agents. If we wanted to make money, we'd be doing something else.
What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.
As you can see, you are therefore not the intended target. I have no interest in forcing you to pay for a mining permit. Congratulations.
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Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
25
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:16:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.
This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible.
It is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it ) |

baltec1
Bat Country
2627
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:18:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded. This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible. It is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it  )
You dont have to be AFK to be a bad miner |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:20:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible. IT is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it  ) Yeah, we hear this a lot. However, the New Order also views miners (even at their keyboards) as having a greater-than-desirable level of bot aspiration. I mean, seriously, even if they're there, they're still accomplishing tasks that have an effect on EVE's economy without actually doing anything.
So yeah. It doesn't awfully matter if you're AFK or not, you're still a bot aspirant.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1650
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:21:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:What we want is to educate miners, to force them, by our actions, to take up arms or to find a way to evade us. If they are doing this, they're actively contributing to EVE as a game, rather than being semi-bots AFKing in a belt all day. If they're out ratting or PVPing or even station trading rather than mining, then we have succeeded.
As you can see, you are therefore not the intended target. I have no interest in forcing you to pay for a mining permit. Congratulations. Bravo *clap*
Op success. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
631
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote: Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.
My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???
Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall
It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship . . . Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...

Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
253
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:24:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:bot aspirant. That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves. |

Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
27
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:26:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Morrigan LeSante wrote:This would be more believable if you left people not afk alone, but you don't so it's not remotely plausible. IT is, however, still hilarious. As you were (just at least be honest about it  ) Yeah, we hear this a lot. However, the New Order also views miners (even at their keyboards) as having a greater-than-desirable level of bot aspiration. I mean, seriously, even if they're there, they're still accomplishing tasks that have an effect on EVE's economy without actually doing anything. So yeah. It doesn't awfully matter if you're AFK or not, you're still a bot aspirant.
Perhaps you want to spread the word internally then, I see a lot of these posts saying "don't be afk duh...." as if it will help
Btw - they affect little more or even less than market players who are never undocking 
Finally, as a full time mission bear I find the idea that ratting is in any way better hilarious. Mine, rat, its all the same: ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1.
Though don't mistake this post for a "waaaaa stop it" as I said, it is hilarious - as you were  |

baltec1
Bat Country
2629
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:27:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
No update to barges for over 6 years
Goons do ice iterdictions
Forums explode with miner rants for months
CCP buff barges.
Yea, I cant see any link here... |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:29:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves. It most certainly is serious, and we do our utmost to help these poor individuals. Thank you for your support.
Asuri Kinnes wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...  Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.
Yeah.
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Sidrat Flush
Eve Industrial Corp
16
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:31:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote: Nope, I'll take your numbers as gospel as presented.
My original point being that out of how many got destroyed, how many actually came to the forums and raged? 1%? 2%? Hell, go out crazy and say 5%???
Because 95% *NOT* raging is not a bad turnout (if it even *was* that low - I'm thinking out of all the thousands you killed the actuall
It was enough to convince CCP to buff the EHP of a ship . . . Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
It would be fantastic if miners and industrialists were required to be in null sec full time and build up the market there. Sadly it's not the case. Empire building in null doesn't require industrialists under the their banner just those required to push out the cap ships of course.
Perhaps the new tutorials that introduce losing ships as a reality will mean you get people who enjoy both on the same character.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Mahatma Cote Temporal Research
2066
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:32:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Riot Girl wrote:That sounds like quite a serious personality disorder. It's good you're making an effort to help those who can't help themselves. It most certainly is serious, and we do our utmost to help these poor individuals. Thank you for your support. Asuri Kinnes wrote:Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:[I'm afraid that you have woefully misunderstood the purpose of the New Order of Hisec Which has been manufactured entirely to get J315 (an alt of whoever) elected to the CSM...  Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that. Yeah.
The Pinky Pie or the Fluttershy? 
Fire the friendship cannon.
Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum -á-á-á ---CCP can't patch stupid--- |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
631
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
No update to barges for over 6 years Goons do ice iterdictions Forums explode with miner rants for months CCP buff barges. Yea, I cant see any link here... Summer of Rage, CCP starts working on FiS, **** changes and all the while the game still goes on.
So, again, any proof or not?
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1650
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:34:00 -
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Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:Actually the New Order was set up by a little-known TEST faction with the intent of eventually garnering enough support to elect [/i]me[/i] Chairman of the next CSM, so that I can persuade CCP to finally introduce a ship dedicated to fans of My Little Pony. At the moment, we're considering that the ship bonus should be +5% friendship to all ships on grid, but we think CCP might say that's a little bit overpowered. So we'll maybe have to rethink that.
Yeah. I really want to shoot you, but then I'd be in trouble for shooting blues.
That and I don't want to go all the way to Delve. You get a pass ... for now. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2012.10.29 17:34:00 -
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Morrigan LeSante wrote:Perhaps you want to spread the word internally then, I see a lot of these posts saying "don't be afk duh...." as if it will help Well, we do target obvious AFKers first, since they clearly have the highest level of bot aspiration. No miner is safe, however.
Morrigan LeSante wrote:Btw - they affect little more or even less than market players who are never undocking  Finally, as a full time mission bear I find the idea that ratting is in any way better hilarious. Mine, rat, its all the same: ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1, ctrl+click F1. Though don't mistake this post for a "waaaaa stop it" as I said, it is hilarious - as you were  Market trading actually has more effect on the economy than mining, and requires more interaction. Ratting is similar(ish) to mining, I suppose, but rats die much quicker than 'roids, so you can't just AFK. Ratting also has at least some level of innate risk, which mining does not.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
339
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:01:00 -
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Max Doobie wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:This thread is evidence of WHY many people don't like high sec miners. No simply bumping a miner is somehow the end of the world, because orbiting stuff is hard. The only people who don't like high-sec miners are the people are described earlier in this post. People who feel the need to coerce others into doing things their way. YOU would prefer me play a certain way so you grief me. It's lame and stupid and I'm salivating at CCPs obvious actions towards this in a patch.
That's what people like you WANT to think, rather than understanding that the vast majority of human beings who play EVE (and even a couple fo the smarter bots, man those things are getting sophisticated) don't CARE how you play, so long as you understand what EVE is.
EVE is a game that allows and encourages the kind of thing James 315 is doing. Rather than figure out ways to counter those ways or stop HIM, you choose to come on these forums and ask for CCP to fix it and make it all better for you.
THAT is what we don't like about you, because you are whiny, entitled, Welfare-esque people who put no effort into your own well being , not the fact that you like to imaginary laser imaginary rocks to death. I like to imaginary autocannon imaginary guristas to death, I could hardly dislike miners for their "playstyle".
But keep believing your "playlist" is the reason, if that makes you happy. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
339
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:03:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Because all the hundreds (thousands?) of miners in game are represented by the 1/2 dozen who post in GD (the most radical anti-bumpers probably being James or his sycophants)? Yeah...  I also go off the fact that hundreds nay throusands died to us because they didnt fit any tank. They still don't fit a tank. All they did was whine on the forums till CCP fitted a tank for them. Miners have never adapted to any threat in the 7 or 8 years that barges have been in the game. They did evolve in one way, their tear ducts are now attached to their fingers 
ROFL |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1651
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:05:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:EVE is a game that allows and encourages the kind of thing James 315 is doing. Rather than figure out ways to counter those ways or stop HIM, you choose to come on these forums and ask for CCP to fix it and make it all better for you.
THAT is what we don't like about you, because you are whiny, entitled, Welfare-esque people who put no effort into your own well being , not the fact that you like to imaginary laser imaginary rocks to death. I like to imaginary autocannon imaginary guristas to death, I could hardly dislike miners for their "playstyle".
But keep believing your "playlist" is the reason, if that makes you happy. Heh. So CCP will be rolling out a new "pvp improving" nerf to bumping, right? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

baltec1
Bat Country
2630
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:16:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Do you have proof that it was actually the "miners" whining that resulted in this change by CCP? Not trying to be pedantic here, but tbqh - the whole "miner in hi-sec = the devil" seems like a manufactured controversy to me.
No update to barges for over 6 years Goons do ice iterdictions Forums explode with miner rants for months CCP buff barges. Yea, I cant see any link here... Summer of Rage, CCP starts working on FiS, **** changes and all the while the game still goes on. So, again, any proof or not? We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala". |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1651
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:17:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala". I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
631
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala". And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not?
Proximity =/= Causation.
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

TheTrue Acolyte
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:21:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling.
"Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4 The way and the life of HiSec. Heed the Code and achieve everlasting mining cycles:
http://www.minerbumping.com |

baltec1
Bat Country
2630
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:24:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:baltec1 wrote:We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala". And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not? Proximity =/= Causation. You already got the answer. Its up to you if you want to dismiss it because you don't like the truth. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1098
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:24:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Counter-bump? Been tried. Does not get the desired results. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
631
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:baltec1 wrote:We call this burrying your head in the sand. Try not to swallow too much while you yell "lalalala". And I call that "avoiding the question". Seriously, do you know or not? Proximity =/= Causation. You already got the answer. Its up to you if you want to dismiss it because you don't like the truth. So yeah, you don't *know*, nor have any proof, that the changes weren't in the pipeline for months before any of those actions? thanks for the clarification.
TheTrue Acolyte wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling. "Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4 Wouldn't be the first person to call themselves "saviour"...
Interdict Hi-Sec - it's the only way to be sure... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1651
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:32:00 -
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TheTrue Acolyte wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I'm sure they can deal with swallowing some stuff while yelling. "Blessed are the swallowers, for by their actions they show their love for the Saviour of HiSec." - The Gospel of James 315, The Book of Gratitude, Chapter 6 Verse 4 We are talking about miners ... CCP is positively showering them in love and buffs it seems. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
115
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:34:00 -
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Still waiting for Issler to pop up in one of these threads and lead the miners to freedom, or something. I guess they aren't *that* important until election time rolls back around. |

Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.10.29 18:34:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Still waiting for Issler to pop up in one of these threads and lead the miners to freedom, or something. I guess they aren't *that* important until election time rolls back around. She's too busy "debating in the open spaces of EVE". |
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