If you haven't been personally harassed by the "New Order" you have most likely heard of them. They are bullies. I have tried speaking with them and filing petitions, it would seem that neither these "agents" or the GM's can be reasoned with. I have personally spoken with James 315 and can testify that he's not even as "compassionate" and "reasonable" as he makes himself seem in his stupid blog. He is a hateful man who despises miners on his own bigoted principle. He just can't stand the fact that we don't want to play with him, or his way, I think it stems from some kind of real life loneliness. In addition to that, it would seem that many changes are coming with the new expansion that may make it even harder to be left alone to mine in peace.

We cannot sit idly by while they ruin our game! Every petition filed is answered with a blow-off statement or this from his blog post

"Hello,

Bumping miners is not against the rules. If you keep your mining ship moving while you mine (by orbiting your target for example) then the bumper will probably miss you."

This is complete B&%% S&*#!

I have been in contact with many industrialists and we are pooling our resources to higher mercs to deal with them. I would like to take this opportunity to ask for any donations our wealthy fellow industrialists are willing to offer. Our only hope is to fight fire with fire. This character doesn't have many combat skills, but I'm looking into acquiring a fighter, I advise you to do the same.

DEATH TO THE NEW ORDER!

For instance, when I play counterstrike I often kill SEALs, SAS, GSG9 and other heroic law-enforcement and military personnel. Tell me again what that says about me in real life?

It depends on your intentions in regards to how you interact in a competitive environment. If your intentions are genuinely competitive and constructive, fine. If your intentions are to grief and annoy, that's something else. I'm not analyzing the gameplay. I'm analyzing the interactions. 2 people can play basketball and have 2 different ways of going about the social aspect of the game. That's my point.

Have you ever conversed with Solstice? I have, he's by no means a sociopath, he just plays the game the way he wants to.

Did you never dream of being a pirate as a kid? Eve can fulfil that dream, you just have to have the balls to step up and grab that dream.

Again, I'm not critiquing how he plays the game. It's how he goes about the social aspect that I'm talking about and in that respect, from what I see on the forums the guy is a total dickhole. Especially to new players who simply voice some concerns about the game. ESPECIALLY when it pertains to PVP. I'm not saying he's bad because he's a pirate in game. I'm saying he's a f**knut because of him constantly verbally assaulting people simply for having an opposing view on something.

The point was that people show their true colors in this type of environment

It depends on your intentions in regards to how you interact in a competitive environment. If your intentions are genuinely competitive and constructive, fine. If your intentions are to grief and annoy, that's something else

All of New Eden is a competitive environment, it's just some people didn't bother to find that out before they started playing, and refuse to accept the truth when it's brutally forced on them by things like ganking, bumping, etc. Then, rather than walk away from a game that isn't for them, they try to enforce their pre-conceived notions about what the game *should* be on those of us who are actually here for what it's designed for.

CCP Implemented a Block option for this problem .

If that's the case then why did CCP Outlaw can baiting in noob systems? Even CCP sets up boundaries, so it's not "no holds barred, fend for yourself".

Why walk away. Everyone here has something about the game they don't like, so therefore by your logic, everyone should quit instead of suggesting changes, right?

Miners whine that people can steal from them and they should be able to defend themselves against people who steal from them. CCP says okay and implements aggression for stealing.


Miners cry about not being able to kill the people who steal from them by themselves and they need everyone else in space to help them to "Make it fair". CCP says okay and we get crimewatch 2.0.

Miners cry about insurance payouts for gankig. CCP says okay and removes insurance payouts for ganking.

Miners cry about their untanked ships not having enough EHP. CCP says okay and increases mining barge and exhumer EHP.

Now miners are crying about people bumping their ships. Given the pattern of pandering to the every whim of miners I'm going to bet we'll see something about this in patch notes soon.

The point was that people show their true colors in this type of environment, not that they act the same way in RL as they do in game. A person can do great thing IRL but have horrible character. Why? Because IRL< for most people, there are consequences for your actions. Whereas in game and on forums, there aren't therefore the have no incentive to be tactful in any way.

If that's the case then why did CCP Outlaw can baiting in noob systems? Even CCP sets up boundaries, so it's not "no holds barred, fend for yourself".

Why walk away. Everyone here has something about the game they don't like, so therefore by your logic, everyone should quit instead of suggesting changes, right?

I'm getting tired of people talking about this. Just hire some dam mercs with all those iskies you made from mining .

I'm getting tired of James and his crew posting "miner" whine threads and pretending it's miners.

Actually can't decide if this James and company player action to point out the flaws with:

NPC Corps?
Mechanics of mining?
Merc contracts and kill rights?
Bounties?

Jeez people, we have to put our money where our mouth is! Prove we aren't the wimps they assume we are!

So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?
Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?
Do they think that by skulking about amongst unwashed masses their message shall be heard?
I say NO!
Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.
If they were so prgogressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.
With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all.
But they do not.
They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.
They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.

The sad little man known as James 315 has raised 21 BILLION ISK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DEATH TO THE NEW ORDER!

I invested 10b into Somer blink last night and cashed out with 22b 30 minutes later. Might do it again today and see if I can raise my winnings to 21b in another 30 minutes.

Without bumping anyone.


Will I need to log or fly something?

Jeez people, we have to put our money where our mouth is! Prove we aren't the wimps they assume we are!

Every ISK I recieve will go DIRECTLY to killing and podding these brain-dead agents. That's the only way! If we start podding them and COSTING THEM REAL MONEY, they will realize this boring cowardly behavior is EXPENSIVE as well!

So why do members of the new order hide in npc corps?

Should not they wear their conviction on their chest and fly high the colors of progress?

Their tactics of bumping paint themselves clearly as washed up fighters to timid to even suicide gank a miner.If they were so progressive and forward thinking, they should cleanse New Eden with Artillery and blaster.With a smile on their face and the support and cheering of all

They run, they cower in npc corps, they refuse to settle as men or even as a woman.

They scurry as vermin, nipping at ankles, and spreading rot and decay.

You need to provide some content first, and the forums are not the place to do that. Show us what we're paying for; James has (and it's ******* hilarious).

We also smile and giggle like little schoolgirls when we do inflict a righteous gank upon a deserving miner.

Once again just to beat the point home, see my reply to your first point, also your wording seems to indicate that you believe women are not as capable as men, I do believe that one of the GSF FC's is both a woman and extremely competent at it.

How do we know you're not just a James315 alt trying to raise even more money from miners to use against them?

Mysterious and many are the workings of the Saviour of HiSec, for his spirit is everywhere, save in hearts that are impure...those that like it not should surely gnash their teeth, rend their garments and stay at the keyboard whilst playing the game.

The Saviour of HiSec is filled with love and mercy, whether you show thanks for his efforts or not.

Also, the New Order has none of a "rapish" aspect, for thou art surely asking for it.

What gives you the right to think you can force upon your own dumbass "idea" of how this great game of Eve should be played? Mining is a very viable career choice for many players. If that's how THEY want to play, who are you to say they aren't "actually playing the game"? Your one-sided, flawed logic is almost laughable. Except I feel sorry for you