This is the equivalent of the miner coming back in his PVP ship.

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Yet the miner can't since one miner war deccing 10+ corps is...not exactly feasible on anyone's budget. Also, please don't use the "oh the miners should unite" reasoning. When was the last time high sec gankers united over anything? Hell when has anyone in Eve ever "united" when they aren't in the same corp or alliance? Should the miners all join one corp or alliance then? Would make deccing them all the much easier wouldn't it?

As you can see, the miners are continually shafted.

Woah. Who said anything about wardecs? There's nothing stopping you from exacting revenge on your tormentor, you just have to pay the CONCORD fee for it.

...right...
...as I said, shafted.

Yet the miner can't since one miner war deccing 10+ corps is...not exactly feasible on anyone's budget. Also, please don't use the "oh the miners should unite" reasoning. When was the last time high sec gankers united over anything? Hell when has anyone in Eve ever "united" when they aren't in the same corp or alliance? Should the miners all join one corp or alliance then? Would make deccing them all the much easier wouldn't it?

As you can see, the miners are continually shafted.

Action: Whine to CCP and ask for a special mod to help you.
Cost: Getting laughed at by all the rest of EVE, developer time that could be spent fixing real problems, introducing a hilariously exploitable new mod to EVE, the New Order declaring a shift of focus to blockading Jita 4-4 with a wall of anchored mining barges and demanding a 10mil ISK fee from any freighter pilot wishing to pass through.

Nothing comes for free.

Two ice interdictions, many hulkageddons, burn jita, summer of rage ect.

When was the last time high sec gankers united over anything? Hell when has anyone in Eve ever "united" when they aren't in the same corp or alliance? Should the miners all join one corp or alliance then? Would make deccing them all the much easier wouldn't it?

As you can see, the miners are continually shafted.

Which were all aggressor type events. When was the last time they united to defend themselves against something (that didn't have to do with monocolgate. That wasn't just gankers, that was everyone, miners included).

Which were all aggressor type events. When was the last time they united to defend themselves against something (that didn't have to do with monocolgate. That wasn't just gankers, that was everyone, miners included).

Which were all aggressor type events.

Hey guys guys guys let's get back to topic, I thought this thread was about the miners getting organized, that they were going to "do something" in-game for once but looks like they are just going do what worked last time.

Ignore the problem while non-miners post on mining alts

So they refuse to unite or even lift a finger, what does that tell you about non-agressors -the miners? :ook at the title of this thread, was it some troll joke?

Unfortunately, no, the spartans did not come back from the dead. Funnily enough though, that does happen in EVE

So um what was your point again

You are a deviant mastermind, do you have a white cat and a volcano lair?

Also, please don't use the "oh the miners should unite" reasoning. When was the last time high sec gankers united over anything? Hell when has anyone in Eve ever "united" when they aren't in the same corp or alliance? Should the miners all join one corp or alliance then? Would make deccing them all the much easier wouldn't it?

Not all that many systems with Ice in them. Very few that are convenient to where I run other operations. So I mine where it is convenient for me. The environment does help determine the level of convenience and bumpers are a part (small and insignificant part) of that environment.

Dotlan lists almost 13 ice belts in the Forge alone; that's not counting ice belts in all the neighbouring regions of Jita. Surely if the New Order is bothering you that much, you can mine elsewhere and either buy a freighter to haul your load to Jita, or purchase Red Frog Transport, yes?

That would require both effort and the spending of ISK, both of which are anathema to some players.

Dotlan lists almost 13 ice belts in the Forge alone; that's not counting ice belts in all the neighbouring regions of Jita. Surely if the New Order is bothering you that much, you can mine elsewhere and either buy a freighter to haul your load to Jita, or purchase Red Frog Transport, yes?

That's no one's fault but the miner's.


This is awesome. It's almost as if you're trying to paint miners as RL minorities. The difference is that one is playing a video game by choice and the other has to live it.

How do you take these miners seriously when upon receiving the ehp buff they proceeded to whine about their balanced cargohold size.

You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks?

And you wonder why miners are mocked?

You're saying that people who train mining skills should be allowed to use weapons based on those mining skills? Or even that CCP should introduce a new mining barge that not only has an enormous EHP tank, but also has the fitting attributes for guns, drones, mining lasers and tanks?

And you wonder why miners are mocked?