Bumping miners is not against the rules. If you keep your mining ship moving while you mine (by orbiting your target for example) then the bumper will probably miss you."

This is complete B&%% S&*#!

How dare they force you to push an orbit button! I had to hit like 4 buttons last night and only wanted to hit 3 please hotfix CCP!

Your right, you do need to do something about it.

Filing petitions though is not the answer, because they're not breaking the EULA.

When the bounty system hits, you need to get people to put bounties on them, hire bounty hunter and merc corps.
They'll get their just deserts, but you need to do it in game. No one is going to do it for you, unless you give them an incentive.

In game crimes require in game consequences. Stop whining and start gathering an army. Get to work.

If you haven't been personally harassed by the "New Order" you have most likely heard of them. They are bullies. I have tried speaking with them and filing petitions, it would seem that neither these "agents" or the GM's can be reasoned with. I have personally spoken with James 315 and can testify that he's not even as "compassionate" and "reasonable" as he makes himself seem in his stupid blog. He is a hateful man who despises miners on his own bigoted principle. He just can't stand the fact that we don't want to play with him, or his way, I think it stems from some kind of real life loneliness. In addition to that, it would seem that many changes are coming with the new expansion that may make it even harder to be left alone to mine in peace.

We cannot sit idly by while they ruin our game! Every petition filed is answered with a blow-off statement or this from his blog post

"Hello,

Bumping miners is not against the rules. If you keep your mining ship moving while you mine (by orbiting your target for example) then the bumper will probably miss you."

This is complete B&%% S&*#!

I have been in contact with many industrialists and we are pooling our resources to higher mercs to deal with them. I would like to take this opportunity to ask for any donations our wealthy fellow industrialists are willing to offer. Our only hope is to fight fire with fire. This character doesn't have many combat skills, but I'm looking into acquiring a fighter, I advise you to do the same.

DEATH TO THE NEW ORDER!

Bottom line: the words "miners" and "fight" should never be used in a sentence together, it doesn't make any sense.

I'm glad I stopped trying to convince my friends to play. If I had to defend miner bumping as a sandbox activity I would be embarrassed.

Carry on though if that's your bag.

Counter 1 = Orbit the damn roid as close as possible.

Amazing.

Wait, mining barges can orbit?

Counter 2 = Probe gravimetric site and mine away.

Oh you don't have a clue about probing? Also what are gravimetric sites? I am not surprised...

Counter 3 = Go to a less ******** system. You don't "have to" mine with the rest of the herd you know.

Effort, right?

The new order is growing all the time, that's a temporary solution.

People are proud because they bump miners, how stupid, i think ship spining is more excited than bumping miners, oh wait EvE is full of mature people.

Stop comparing things people do in a video game to ****, that's pretty much the most disgusting thing I've ever seen on an internet forum.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

It's like I said earlier, these bumper people all tend to have similar personalities; rude, obnoxious, immature, "rapish" type of folks who enjoy irritating the **** out of people (check out that Solstice Project guy for example. That guys posts prove him to be a Grade-A, V-Card holding sociopath).

I mean seriously what other entertainment could they get from it? A challenge? No. You do it because you enjoy annoying people. Bottom line.

Let's be clear; these are carebears. They are engaging targets they know won't/don't want to fight back.

The only real effect I see these losers having on the game is increased ore prices.

I'd for one love to see CCP end this crap, it's not even realistic. Ships should blow up if they run into each other.

As for miners, I also support making higher end ore/minerals/gases harder to obtain. Risk should be increased for the increased profit, but this bumping **** is just an excuse for socially ******** people to be douchebags.

I am one of those people you describe. I also work as a dentist.

At your service.

how people behave on these forums and in game should be taken VERY seriously in evaluating that persons RL character.

For instance, you won't see any of these pussies "bumping" that hitchhiker on the on-ramp of the interstate out of some bullshit adherence to meritocratic views, because he just might get the **** knocked out of him.

Dude we're all successful here.

Watch this.

I'm an attorney.

OH SNEEYAAAAP SOOOOON!!!!

Doobay!!!!

I think you may have just accidentally invalidated your opinion by contradicting yourself.

A attorney that does drugs. Does your employer know about this?

@ Max Doobie, either you're an alt or you genuinely are new here.

The personas that people use in game are not necessarily reflective of their true persona, many call gankers and PvPers sociopaths and egomaniacs, many of these gankers are professionals in real life, there are soldiers, policemen and women, doctors, lawyers, politicians and even CEO's of global companies who are gankers/PvP players, if they were truly sociopaths would they hold those positions in life?

There are 3 letters in MMORPG that are important here, RP & G standing for roleplaying game, Eve presents the chance to project any persona you want, some choose to be complete asshats in complete contrast to their real life personalities, alternatively some project their real personalities into their game personas.

If you read through some of the sub forums, especially new citizens q&a you will find some of the people you have labeled as rude, obnoxious and irritating go out of their way to help new players find their feet in Eve.

A attorney that does drugs. Does your employer know about this?

Yes because no doctors, lawyers, bankers, engineers, etc do drugs right?


Go to sleep.

How so?

Do tell Doobie.

It's like I said earlier, these bumper people all tend to have similar personalities; rude, obnoxious, immature, "rapish" type of folks who enjoy irritating the **** out of people (check out that Solstice Project guy for example. That guys posts prove him to be a Grade-A, V-Card holding sociopath).

What people do behind closed doors, with no fear of consequence or retribution is 100% telling of who they are as a person. So if anything, how people behave on [...] forums and in game should be taken VERY seriously in evaluating that persons RL character.

For instance...

The part where you claimed the way people act in an online game has anything to do with the way they act in real life and then then argued it by contradicting your assessment. Unless your point was that the behaviours are unrelated, in which case, I apologise.