Blowing up is one thing. Bumping cannot be actively countered despite past arguments. The "counters" are (non-minmatar) duct tape fixes. Whether you agree with me or not is irrelevant to me. I believe it's unfair to them.

You also seem upset that miners are ignoring you or not interacting with you. Why?

Blowing up is one thing. Blow them up back. Bumping has no counter IG. If there was something like an anchor module that kept em stuck for 10 minutes to not be bumped, but easily ganked unless their tanked, then this would not be an issue at all.

No need to fear!

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So what's the counter to a gate camp? Speed fits, taking another route, etc. Yet you can still be caught out by a gate camp. Does this make it a duct tape fix, in that it isn't comprehensive? Should every activity in the game have an absolute counter, or should we be content with making it harder to target us (in the case of miner bumping, there are certainly ways to make yourself harder to bump)?

And your opinion matters due to what credibility?

I am not upset that miners may ignore or refuse to interact with me. I have interacted with miners in the past and I found their company to be unsatisfactory.

There are a good number of mods in game to counter bumping already...

This really isnt an issue if miners stopped to think for a bit. But no, they are doing exactly the same thing as when they whined about ganking.

I like how you keep posting the website as if to annoy me with your constant advertising. Nice try though.

Your code is not in game rules and are not from the company or in game authority. Therefore your code is moot. Your illustrations are tailored to goad people on, anyone who speaks English can see that. Also, James through his actions egg on his own "followers" to target miners whether IG abuse or verbal abuse. Either way, his "followers" actions are his responsibility as the so called "Supreme Protector."

I am not taking them the wrong way, you are simply trying to troll me.

Nothing at all.

Whats wrong with someone blowing up said miner because he was stupid and fitted no tank or bumping him to extort a ransom?

The credibility that I did not have to rely on the "go back to [insert game here]" mentality to counter an argument.

Also post with your main.

Why not just orbit to counter ganks, and bumpers can get bumped too

We know that EVE is a sandbox. What does this mean? It means that EVE is a game where players are allowed to do whatever they like within the broadly defined mechanics created by CCP.

More specifically, this means that if a group of players (such as the one at www.MinerBumping.com) decides to create a set of rules (or dare I say it, a Code) and enforce it, it is far from moot. In fact, it is just as valid as CCP's rules as long as we can enforce it.

As for your claim that James is responsible for the actions of any follower, please, I invite you to quote one post on www.MinerBumping.com that encourages Agents to come and harass you here.

I offered an alternative game where a player would not be burdened by unnecessary interaction, such as being blown up, or being bumped, or even being talked to.

I can't, but thanks for playing.

Nice to see you doing it now, did your little "Max Doobie" plaything get banned because you flipped out earlier?

the problem with an anchor module is that the afk miners would moan, throw tantrums, unsub and act like general babbies unless CCP made it a midslot module that used no CPU, no powergrid and did not require any fuel to be used, because god forbid they have to make difficult fitting choices

and then it'd be solely tailored for miners and useless outside of mining

We were simply defending our right to not have our playstyle removed because miners didnt like losing ships to their own stupidity

There are "counters" to bumping, you're right...but not full mechanics. I don't know. I see your point though. I'm just jaded and bitter by the polarity of pvp vs. pve and am more pro-pve because of some pvpers mentality and attitudes towards anyone "playing it wrong." It's a game.

While that might work elsewhere, I know well enough the community's "attitude" towards assumed "whiners." It's an intended insult saying 'Eve does not want you, get out (p.s. give me your stuff). They like Eve the game, but not the people who play it.

Then why complain about their ignoring or noninteraction? It shouldn't bother you.

Your code is not in game rules and are not from the company or in game authority. Therefore your code is moot.

The Code is not moot. It would be moot if it could not be enforced. As things stand, we have the means and the determination to enfore it. Deal with it.

(Of course, your way of 'dealing with it' is taking this out of game to the forums, in the deluded hope of Divine Intervention by CCP.)

Disgusting miner filth are not "minding their own business", they sell their rocks or manufacture with them. That is not minding their own business. That is directly influencing the market and availability of everything.

All the more reason to find another game to play, huh? It's why I don't play COD or other shooters that may or may not feature 13-year old idiots screaming racist obscenities.

You're right. In terms of ganks, they have ways to respond. But the methods for one to respond to bumping really aren't there in any effective means. But very well, that's your right, stated respectfully, and I'll respect that. \o/

[quote=Nanatoa]The Code is not moot. It would be moot if it could not be enforced. As things stand, we have the means and the determination to enfore it. Deal with it.

(Of course, your way of 'dealing with it' is taking this out of game to the forums, in the deluded hope of Divine Intervention by CCP.)

The Code is not moot. It would be moot if it could not be enforced. As things stand, we have the means and the determination to enfore it. Deal with it.

(Of course, your way of 'dealing with it' is taking this out of game to the forums, in the deluded hope of Divine Intervention by CCP.)

Your code is not in game rules and are not from the company or in game authority. Therefore your code is moot.

LOL, you have no way to enforce it all. You might find some idiots who will pay you, but do not kid yourself James, you have no real way to enforce it. Unless you mean people laughing at you as away to enforce it. Your ego is getting pretty big James.

And as stated above, it did work before. I'm not asking for bumping to be an exploit, I'm asking for miners to have something to counter it while at the same time making them open to another form of attack.

I'm asking for miners to have something to counter it while at the same time making them open to another form of attack.