The simple truth is that CCP have had their money out of the long term players. People that have been arond a very long time have skills and assets that currently make it very easy for them to wipe the floow with the masses of potential new players.
Lots of new players will potentialy bring in several times more real money than the long term players that might leave.

It's all about the money baby, CCP dont give a damn about you if you've been playing for 5+ years they consider you a likely adict that will never leave so are confident in the fact that when they shaft you the vast majority will just go buy some lube and come back for more.

Wrong, All TiDi is doing is taking something everyone complains about, LAG, and turns it into a feature. Because CCP is now just spreading the lag around to everyone evenly. it doesn't address the deficiencies of the code or the servers. it just tries to mitigate the damage the deficiencies cause. It will basically end up turning EvE into a slideshow game in large fights, until the blobs get so massive that not even TiDi can compensate. but at the same time, i will complement CCP for at least doing something to compensate instead of "the logs show nothing".

I agree, in smaller scale battles SC's are fine. Unfortunately, CCP has allowed the game to get out of control by not imposing limitations.

Now, if CCP added reasonable limitations on alliance sizes and NAPing (through isk cost, or through a max limit on alliance system sov that is lowerred even more by each extra blue standing), EVE would be more fun for the grunts. Alliances shouldn't need whole regions(+) if the under-lying system is fixed.

Thats a perfect description, m8.

TBH I'm considering unsubing not only my supercap alt, but all my chars.

Eve its not my "main" game, but I do like it and for the years that I've been playing I did "sold it" to a lot of my friends. One of the first things I usually say to them its that EVE is THE hardest game out there. That its not just time, but also effort that its necessary to get the stuff that you want, and once you get it, try to have fun and enjoy the results of your hard work. At some point, you might take a huge hit (like welping a titan) but w/e you do must be a calculated risk, considering your experience and the tools that you earn to play with. If you lose something, its your fault. Thats not what is happening now.

That kind of arbitrary unreasonable nerf, rendering almost useless chars and assets of considerable value and, consequently, the time and money that you spent over the years... changes everything. There is no reason anymore to make any long term plan when that time that you are about to invest into something might just be a house of cards. I guess no one would spent years building one...

I have wasted my time and money in a lot of stupid things. A lot. Eve is about to join the top 5.

It's like drugs and hookers. Did I had fun? Hell yeah. Would I do it again? Probably not.

Ps.: I'm sure CCP don't care about how a single dude feels about the way they manage EVE, but by posting this i've just made them spend money on data storage. I guess i had my revenge \o/

I'm disappointed.

This thread is spluttering to a halt and we've barely reached half the length of the trail of tears we got when the nano-nerf was announced. Guess that in the end most players are happy with this rebalance after all.

Good work CCP!

What does this have to do with cap and super cap ships? Well perhaps some role changes are in order for Super Caps, as you have tried balancing them for years now with relatively no success. Perhaps changing them into the long range base ships you had originally intended them to be for starters.

If you think the tears are flowing now, just imagine if CCP had said "Attn all titan pilots: your ship is now a mobile POS instead of a combat vessel! Enjoy!".

Also I would like to say that all i ever see is people bitching in these "feedback" threads, if all of you hate ccp so much why do you play? i think they have done more than enough lately and they are trying to win back the respect of the community, even going so far as to write a "We F**cked Up" letter for everyone to read!! How many games companies would do that?!!!

So instead of moaning and complaining maybe some of you should cut them some slack and actually try and contribute to these threads instead of just flaming ccp all the time!!

ccp wanted to show they care about the eve player and eve but its been their has been no word from ccp in the last 100 pages just shows us how committed they are about eve players and our feedback on this subject.

once or twice a year we have a nurf that hits a group of eve players this time it is supers and dreds so far, but ccp are trying to fix a game that have been led in one direction for some time we do appreciate the time that have been devoted to the game over the year and trying to fix it after trying to build two other titles to expand the company . but we also want to hear from the devs as stated this is one of the main issues of this expansion that will be look at by many and to have a thread setup to look at it and to take from player feedback on the changes its in the opposite direction by not responding to what many of us have to say,

its starting to look like ccp have listen to 1% then made up their minds as where they need to take this and no matter what other people have to say or suggest , which haven't changed in ccp even with the letter but some roads are to well used to change to a new route.

all we ask for is to have some feedback
Not to leave a thread cos its become to large and heated we want action and leaving issues like this is not action.

not a super holder at the moment

Dude its 2am in Iceland, maybe just MAYBE they have gone to bed?!! I mean they do work a 9-5 job

Sub-capitals are useless in fleet fights.

i think this is very Harsh , there is no useless ship in eve , every ship has its role and depends on how they are used.
maybe its not the ships but the people flying them, i have met the best of the pilots, Awsome in a vaga put them in a BS and they are just a number a drone.

Maybe the correct Fleet Make-up hasn't been implemented yet, there is a counterable fleet for any Fleet in the game they call

Supercapitals are too hard to kill.
shouldnt they be hard to kill after all, they are the 2nd best ship in the game

ahh the good old power beast *first the Dooms day killed every thing on grid
and now the Super weapon is too powerful * ironic hmmmmmmm
the last nerf on the highest tier Ship was catastrophic changed the whole Fleet way of battle those that had them had an advantage. I used to get a chill when i saw one, now i just go mehhh

granted this thread was made close to 3 weeks ago but after the first 4 days it has been left without any word from anyone at ccp
time zone is not a issue for that amount of time and it shows the lack of commitment to the players.

HICs are disigned to tackle supers after all, Dictors were not.

You realise that when supercaps lost their bubble immunity, Hictors hadn't even been introduced to the game yet?

Revelations II explicitly made regular Dictors the supercap-tackling hull.

Lucky I don't fly a moros, whit rate of fire bonus there gone be even more cap hungry, itGÇÖs like dropping a low slot...
And if you chance capacitor leves, that would mean extra tanking.

For a mother ship/super carrier (master of drones) it will be a bit odd if they won't master most drones any more.

And better stop training for t2 drones if you just gone fly dread/super/titan. What a waste of skill training for so many...

e.g. Super is in POS and gets bubbled - this prevents them leaving the POS under current machanics but does that also mean they are aggressed ? And if they log off will it mean they will remain aggressed and on grid while bubbled in that POS ?

[A bubble only aggresses you if you attempt to warp whilst inside it.

It is not normal to have a supercapital defenseless against a destroyer-size vessel,.