Cruise Missiles have pve applications, but otherwise torpedoes become the only available weapon system for missile focused battleships. We want to change that!

Rise

[b]5% increased rate of fire for all Cruise Missile Launchers

Strange that noone complained about an increase in rof from cruise launchers.

Just to remind you a tech1 cruise launcher has a base rof of 22 seconds. Now 22 + 5% makes 23.1 seconds.

Am I the only one who doesn't like that at all?

If it is meant to decrease the rate of fire I'm all in and I take my complaint back but if not I stand by my opinion that it is bad.

I cannot make up my mind about the rest right now until I tested them on SISI.

just tested a cruise raven vs a typhoon

fitt of raven : 6x cruise missile launcher II + scourge fury/1x web/1x painter/4x bcu

initial volley whitout tp : 1201
with tp : 1500

seriosly???? will cruise missiles need to tp a battleship size hull to be able to make their full potention damage.

i am dissapoint,dps looks ok on paper,but when in combat,everything changes

just tested a cruise raven vs a typhoon

fitt of raven : 6x cruise missile launcher II + scourge fury/1x web/1x painter/4x bcu

initial volley whitout tp : 1201
with tp : 1500

seriosly???? will cruise missiles need to tp a battleship size hull to be able to make their full potention damage.

i am dissapoint,dps looks ok on paper,but when in combat,everything changes

I'm not sure why you would expect to use fury missiles to do full damage to any attack battleship. Try using the correct ammo (navy).

-Liang

Sure, but this is not an unexpected thing. Also, these changes are not yet on Sisi (I just checked).

-Liang

Two Rigours are better than a Rigour and a Flare. The only advantage of Flare is a lesser calibration cost.

Transversal is never zero unless you are EHP bashing or stumble upon someone who had a bathroom emergency (ie. AFK). Controlling/minimizing transversal is a large part of successful use of guns, but you are right to defeat the explosion radius you need a module, specifically a TP which is a fair trade considering you potentially do 100% damage at all ranges without having to switch ammo (no optimal/falloff concerns).

Fought and beat 3 Typhoons, a Hyperion, and almost destroyed the Oracle that popped me in a cruise Golem one after the other on Duality.

+1

just tested a cruise raven vs a typhoon

fitt of raven : 6x cruise missile launcher II + scourge fury/1x web/1x painter/4x bcu

initial volley whitout tp : 1201
with tp : 1500

seriosly???? will cruise missiles need to tp a battleship size hull to be able to make their full potention damage.

i am dissapoint,dps looks ok on paper,but when in combat,everything changes

t2 vs t1 nothing special

Initial tests on the test server look good.

Fit like this (which I admit is a bit of an odd fit for a PVP and the fact it has no prop mod) the ship has taken out 3 other Ravens, a Tengu and a Sac.

High power
6x Cruise Missile Launcher II
1x Heavy Energy Neutralizer II

Medium power
1x Faint Warp Disruptor I
1x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
1x X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Heavy Capacitor Booster II
1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
1x EM Ward Field II

Low power
1x Damage Control II
3x Ballistic Control System II
1x Gravimetric Backup Array II
Rig Slot
1x Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Drones
5x Warrior II
5x Hammerhead II

Using Fury's I was hitting the Raven's for about 2300 damage a volley and the Tengu I was hitting for 1100 or so a Volley with Precision Missiles. Also 4 shotted an active tanked Sacrilege with T2 Precision.

If the missiles stay like this they might actually be viable for PVP. The Explosion penalty isn't really having an effect.

Need to test against Frigates.

Cruise is still not good against speed-tanking. But as long as ppl dont take Cruise seriously they wont fit an AB. Time will tell us if cruise will be good or bad.

Not really.

Based on the same reason you don't see paper thin sniper setups @ 150km+ any more. You simply don't have time to align and warp out again, if they try to scan you down when you come in.

Hello!

As you all know, we are rebalancing all of the tech 1 battleships for Odyssey. This means its a very good time to begin looking at large missile systems. This post covers Cruise Missiles specifically.

The biggest problem for Cruise missiles is that their main draw is their range (roughly 75k with no skills, 170k with all 5s, and 250km or so with a Raven). Unfortunately, using long-range missiles in most pvp situations is unrealistic, as the flight time for the missiles, which can be up to 20 seconds, allows plenty of opportunity for your target to evade damage. On top of that, in situations where flight time isn't as much of a problem (like small scale engagements), cruise damage is extremely low. The result is a situation where Cruise Missiles have pve applications, but otherwise torpedoes become the only available weapon system for missile focused battleships. We want to change that!

We are hoping to improve Cruise from two angles. First we will increase their damage by around 30%. This will happen partly in a change to the base missile damage, and partly in a rate of fire increase for the launchers. Secondly, we are going to increase the base velocity of cruise missiles substantially, making their role as the premiere long range missile at least slightly more realistic. These two improvements will be balanced by an increase in power grid need for the launchers, and a small explosion radius increase for the missiles.

Specifically:

5% increased rate of fire for all Cruise Missile Launchers
200 added power grid need for all Cruise Missile launchers

4700m/sec base missile velocity for all Cruise Missiles (up from 3750m/sec)
14 second base flight time for all Cruise Missiles (down from 20 seconds)
25% increase in base damage for all Cruise Missiles
10% increase in explosion radius for all Cruise Missiles

Please keep in mind this change is not comprehensive. Following Odyssey, we hope to do more work to improve the missile systems in EVE by potentially adding new modules and/or interactions.

Look forward to hearing your feedback, as always
Rise

I'm not sure why you would expect to use fury missiles to do full damage to any attack battleship. Try using the correct ammo (navy).

-Liang

Ur shooting something the size of a cruiser at me and expect an interceptor to be overtaken by it? lol

an interceptor should be able to out run incomming fire easy