The new build still doesn't have short range ship distances listed, as my corp director Capqu just posted. Also a multitude of other problems, like having to bookmark ships on grid before you warp to them.

Apparently we're not getting the message across regarding combat probing, so I drew a picture to show you exactly what we're talking about and why it's absolutely the wrong idea to remove close range probe distances.

http://i.imgur.com/SfBhdl7.gif

Did someone mention we can't copy and paste the scanner results anymore?

This is very very bad, mmh'kay.

Scanner results are used to parse data for tools and record keeping.
Sig strengths on a first pass are used to quickly pick out the sigs of interest, nobody wants to probe 60+ sigs. Apparently CCP is full of wormhole carebears who do.
Nobody wants large colorful rows that take 5 times as long to scroll through than the condensed rows in the old system. BECAUSE COLOR IS BETTER THAN FUNCTIONALITY AMIRITE?
Combat probes are used for tactical on grid engagements with specific enemies, knowing the distance matters.

I think you'll find it didn't used to show distance at all, and they "fixed" it by making it show AU, so no, it isn't. Would be cool if you read through what I originally posted but I guess that's too much to ask.

Sorry, my bad. I actually missed this line in your post. You have a very valid point of concern that really needs fixing.

Edit: Nvm. I'm done.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but I'm assume no, so props to you for admitting when you're wrong


I made an image to better explain exactly what I'm talking about and to highlight just how bad it is for combat probing currently.

http://i.imgur.com/oV3NGe3.png

They build put up today on sisi has a new problem with the signature results list .
The standard filter "show all" doesn't seem to work.
If you switch to cosmic anomalies you see anomalies but if you select "show all" again, nothing is found.

Your worldly belongings - I can keep them safe?

Previously you could copy-paste signatures from the list in the scan window, and you could also sort signatures on any column - not just strength but also name. These were both rather useful when coordinating multiple scanners. You could, for example, copy out a complete list of signatures, put that in a shared document, and then easily find which signatures you were missing - if we're missing AUN-520, I could easily find AUN-520 in the ingame list by sorting alphabetically.

Now there seems rather impractical to coordinate multiple scanners. You can't copy-paste the list of signatures, and you can't isolate a particular signature by any means other than ignoring everything else. Can this functionality be restored?

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but I'm assume no, so props to you for admitting when you're wrong


I made an image to better explain exactly what I'm talking about and to highlight just how bad it is for combat probing currently.

http://i.imgur.com/oV3NGe3.png

Hey guys, thanks for all the great feedback.

WeGÇÖre writing a dev blog that talks a bit more in depth about many of the changes, but in the meantime I wanted to quickly address a few things:

Regarding removing the DSP GÇô the DSP basically allowed people to quickly get a picture of everything in the system (including ships), in a kind of a GÇ£cheatingGÇ¥ way as it didnGÇÖt really use the probe scan system (no triangulation or anything). This and the heavy overlap with the Sensor Overlay system made us decide to remove them. There are other ways to find/track ships in systems; apart from the D-Scan, there are also the combat probes, which really are there to do what the DSP just did better. I should mention that weGÇÖre adjusting the sweep formation to not have any gaps.

Regarding removing options GÇô there has been some criticism that weGÇÖre removing some edge-case functionality in how some players probe scan. Basically what weGÇÖre doing is creating a streamlined method on how to probe scan, but players are not forced to use this method if theyGÇÖre used to scanning differently. WeGÇÖve tried to maintain the old functionality, short-cuts, etc. as much as possible. But weGÇÖre not aiming to make every single method a streamlined version GÇô basically, you can continue to use scan probes in different ways, but there is no guarantee that this is going to be easier/quicker than the streamlined version.

Regarding new names for sites, decryptors, modules GÇô The main reason for us to change the names of the sites is that the terms (radar, gravimetric, etc.) are already being used elsewhere in the game, and having the same terms over two quite different systems is really confusing. So weGÇÖre not changing them because we didnGÇÖt like them, but because theyGÇÖre already in use. As for other name changes, we decided to go for names that offer a bit better clarity to their functionality GÇô we always try to keep things thematic and cool, but it canGÇÖt be too much at the expense of playability. In these cases we felt it was better to tone down a bit on the thematic names.

Keep the good comments coming, the dev blog should be out late this week or early next week.