Ok.... besides the lack of the anomaly "list" similar to the one generated by the old on-board scanner - whats the use of it after patch? - and the inability to launch less probes than 8, with the shortcut fixes and all, PVE probing feels about right. I like how probes keep their formation and how you can resize the whole thing without extra shortcuts. It takes a lot less time :) Spread formation also looks "pathced" - for flat systems only, dont remove deep space probe! - Not sure if the new fixes made the dual 4set pvp probers happy with ergonomics... but its great for just probing signatures/

But seriously, bring our anomaly "list" back! OY! This is a game about... space data sheets!

I've been testing in WH systems on sisi but I've noticed something odd, sorry if it's been raised before:

When scanning multiple signatures the results just seem to stop updating after a while. I hit scan, it cycles through but then the results don't change at all.

Am I doing something wrong?

Are you using the "show all" filter? In the last build on Sisi I was noticing that scan results don't update under that filter, but they do under others. I don't know if this got fixed or not, but I did file a bug report about it.

Wormhole resident here...

Scanning is an integral part of living in wormholes, and I applaud an efforts to take the pain out of scanning while retaining the element of skill and reasonable effort.

The changes thus far are mostly good, but as others have mentioned, there are a few issues that stand out as confounding our standard operating methods when scanning in wormholes.

First: 8 probes. It's been mentioned, we should be able to choose the number we want.
Why? Some of us use two sets of probes, in different ways, at the same time, to scan. Sometimes we only want to do a quick scan with a single probe, or just want to keep an eye out for signatures.

The bigger issue:

I don't really mind launching 8 probes at once all that much, that's what I do 95% of the time.
I would like the checkboxes beside the probes back to de/select probes so that I can manipulate multiple groups of probes at once.

I highly object to having the two default probe formations be the only ones available. They are useful for some people, however, a 3rd option of launching them all in the same exact spot would make it orders of magnitude easier for us to configure the probe formations that we commonly use... not the ones you've given us. With the current available formations, probes are all over the place, and require a lot of clicking and mouse movement to reconfigure, not to mention the annoyance of having some probes at different altitudes, which makes it far harder to configure a nice 2D scanning pattern, as many of us like to use.

so you make 2 groups of 4? Wasn't it better then making it 9? so we could use 3 goups of 3? or 6 so we could use 2 groups of 3? it have the same effect doesn't it? If a triangulation need 3 probes, why 8? you can make 2 sets of 3 and an incomplete with 2....
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4) High-end scanning which required a lot of investment in skills and implants will be accessible to almost everyone. .

To the noobs training your toons, think twice about training edge case max skills, the benefits you see in level Vs are probably gonna be lost when CCP makes that aspect of the game easier to do. Max leadership booster alt is like half a year, max scanner is like 2 months. I'll probably only max combat skills from now on.

8. Mining Supercapitals which create a specialized version of a jump bridge which sucks all asteroids within 5 stargate jumps into your cargohold, refined at 100% efficiency.c.

I remember back when the mining ships were rebalanced, a few guys I knew that mined were super pissed about it because they had invested so much sp into their ships and now CCP was making it easier to get into barges and stuff. I'm not fully aware of the details since I don't mine, but two guys were pissed enough to unsub and quit eve.

I can see how CCP wants to make it easier for noobs to make that sweet mining cash but to him he felt like he threw away months of training for an edge. CCP took that edge away, lost those players, and in the end probably gained more new players by making mining easier to train into.

Now I'm seeing it happen with my characters, I have two perfect scanners, I need the edge to beat other scanners to wormholes during hole control maneuvers. I need deep space probes to quickly get relative sig strengths, more importantly I need to hope that I have these skills and that my opponents don't have them. This rebalancing is taking that edge away from me, not by nerfing my capabilities but by making lesser trained toons able to compete in this part of the game. When we go on siege ops in wormholes we bring scan alts, characters trained into being the best they can be because a lot rides on how fast you can resolve sigs.

Billions of ISK are won or lost based on the few seconds advantage the approximately 50 days of training gives a perfect scanning toon.

I, and many others, have invested the sp and time and cash money into getting that advantage. You call this an edge case, but to many players it is a standard part of play and it is being heavily diluted.

I'm not gonna quit, but I want CCP to know that you've pissed me off and I know I will get nothing for those months of wasted time, which if you think about it, is just extra revenue for you so I guess I'm happy for you and your companies bottom line.

I'm waiting for the offgrid boosters to be nerfed so I can feel like I lost those SP too.

To the noobs training your toons, think twice about training edge case max skills, the benefits you see in level Vs are probably gonna be lost when CCP makes that aspect of the game easier to do. Max leadership booster alt is like half a year, max scanner is like 2 months. I'll probably only max combat skills from now on.

CCP , please answer me what is happening with the lg virtue implants. In my opinion they will become worthless the day you release the new scanning mods.

4. Make D-scan automated. When a ship shows up, you get an alert sound.

Remove half the bonuses from gunnery/missile launcher support skills and add them to Weapon Upgrades.

CCP , please answer me what is happening with the lg virtue implants. In my opinion they will become worthless the day you release the new scanning mods.

With everyone and his dog being able to scan relatively quickly it will be even more important to get a slight edge over other explorers.

That may apply only in empire, and anyway the virtues are not going to give you that edge, the pinpointing modules are going to flatten any edge that virtues could give you.