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VanDam
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Posted - 2006.03.15 09:30:00 -
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The Zealot can fit a plate and use Focused lasers, why can't a Deimos at least have a usable setup with a 1600mm plate? Why is there such a small divide between the Deimos and the Thorax when it comes to powergrid? I am not arguing for the Deimos to have big guns, and MWD, and a plate. I am arguing that she should be able to choose to do so, and if she decides to go all out damage, allow her to fill her high-slots with decent weaponry without needing powergrid upgrades in the lows.
my m8 can fit a deimos with a 1600mm plate and a mwd he uses electrons and his deimos is awesome. plates and ECM aint the end of the world my zealot can kill deimos's and it dont have a plate on any ECM
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VanDam
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Posted - 2006.03.15 09:30:00 -
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The Zealot can fit a plate and use Focused lasers, why can't a Deimos at least have a usable setup with a 1600mm plate? Why is there such a small divide between the Deimos and the Thorax when it comes to powergrid? I am not arguing for the Deimos to have big guns, and MWD, and a plate. I am arguing that she should be able to choose to do so, and if she decides to go all out damage, allow her to fill her high-slots with decent weaponry without needing powergrid upgrades in the lows.
my m8 can fit a deimos with a 1600mm plate and a mwd he uses electrons and his deimos is awesome. plates and ECM aint the end of the world my zealot can kill deimos's and it dont have a plate on any ECM
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.15 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: VanDam
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The Zealot can fit a plate and use Focused lasers, why can't a Deimos at least have a usable setup with a 1600mm plate? Why is there such a small divide between the Deimos and the Thorax when it comes to powergrid? I am not arguing for the Deimos to have big guns, and MWD, and a plate. I am arguing that she should be able to choose to do so, and if she decides to go all out damage, allow her to fill her high-slots with decent weaponry without needing powergrid upgrades in the lows.
my m8 can fit a deimos with a 1600mm plate and a mwd he uses electrons and his deimos is awesome. plates and ECM aint the end of the world my zealot can kill deimos's and it dont have a plate on any ECM
you can, but you ahve to fit a small rep to do it,and you get webbed by a zealot yoru stuck and he will shred you, deimos needs speed and agilyity
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Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.03.15 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: VanDam
my m8 can fit a deimos with a 1600mm plate and a mwd he uses electrons and his deimos is awesome.
You must be joking.
With advanced weapon upgrades 4:
Deimos powergrid: 1075
5x Electron Blaster II: 480
1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II: 165
1x 1600mm plate: 500
1075 - 480 -165 - 500 = -73 powergrid
And you still have 8 (eight) empty slot to fill..
It's funny that you mention the Zealot because that ship can fit a full rack of Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, a MWD II and a 1600mm plate. And still has 211 powergrid left...
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2006.03.15 11:43:00 -
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Blaster-boats are hardest ships to fit.
Deimos is harder blasterboat to fit.
Galente sciences who developed the deimos are fired and imprisoned.
Really, when you spend so much time to learn the skills to fly a deimos, buy one with a lot of isk and start to fit the only consolation is Istahr.
Deimos is good for NPC.
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Gary Goat
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Posted - 2006.03.15 20:25:00 -
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Can we get a dev response to this thread please?
Pretty please 
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Barella
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Posted - 2006.03.15 20:32:00 -
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interesting stuff  thx
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Harper04
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Posted - 2006.03.15 23:36:00 -
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Must...keep...on...1st...page.
Dev response about boosting my baby pls! 
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tuxford
Coming up
Blasters
Save The Deimos |
Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Miklas Laces on 16/03/2006 11:05:32
Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Tuxford
Coming up
Blasters
It means they really didn't have the time to look into it yet, but they couldn't announce all those new tweaks without mentioning blasters.
Am I right ? 
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Techyon
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Posted - 2006.03.16 21:53:00 -
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You might actually not be far off the truth... although Tux mentioned they were looking at 'fitting req and cap usage of blasters' in Sarmaul's thread. Now lets hope they slightly boost the damage output aswell, to make fitting blasters more rewarding.
On a more important note.. can we PLEASE, TUX, PLEASE get a response to this thread from you ?!
atm I don't even care wether you say : 'no I'm not even going to look into the Deimos' or 'yes I'm going to look into the Deimos in addition to just blasters' (because blasters aren't de Deimos' only problem as has been pointed out many many times in this thread).
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.03.17 11:22:00 -
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Just read Tux's info about the new changes.. does this mean the devs are going to look into blasters only cause they think thats the deimos' only problem, or does it mean they didnt have time to have a look into it yet?
I really hope the devs stop ignoring this thread
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.03.17 12:36:00 -
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Just hope they don't change cap use and tracking for blasters and leave it at that. Tracking I can deal with, Signature focusing 5 and webber FTW. It's cap use I can deal with as well. Fights shouldn't take long if you're a blasterboat.
They're weakness of blasters, but they're not what needs fixing ( not that I'll be against a tracking boost cause tracking on blasters is indeed difficult too master )
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Puppet Misstress
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Posted - 2006.03.17 19:07:00 -
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back to top you go
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Centurin
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Posted - 2006.03.17 19:41:00 -
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Its a fact of EVE life that blasterboats are a thing of the past. Whether you are fitting a thorax, deimos, vigilant, or megathron. Blasters just suck. The drone bay in the thorax is the only thing that made it viable before RMR. Deimos is no different. It wouldn't be EVE without crappy blasters and bugged drones. 
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Gary Goat
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Posted - 2006.03.18 04:30:00 -
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So will the blaster changes be for all blasters or just the large. If its for meds as well then it will help the deimos but it still needs looking into.
Give us a sign oh mighty ones.
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Car Salesman
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Posted - 2006.03.18 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Car Salesman on 18/03/2006 17:59:11
Signed!
Agree with Dash 100%.
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Femlin Tilith
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Posted - 2006.03.18 19:39:00 -
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I think we can leave the blasters to another thread. The agility/speed/inertia of the deimos or lack thereof is more than enough topic for this thread. Unfortunately, the ToWhomItMayConcern people who could address this are either:
a. too lazy to comment
b. too oblivious to notice this thread has been at or near the top for over weak
c. flying something in game other than a deimos
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d. they just don't give a frog's fat arse
Or it could be that they just don't know how to fix it without it effecting other things that would in turn need fixing but I doubt it.
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Gary Goat
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Posted - 2006.03.19 14:23:00 -
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And we're back on page 1
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Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.03.20 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Femlin Tilith
I think we can leave the blasters to another thread. The agility/speed/inertia of the deimos or lack thereof is more than enough topic for this thread. Unfortunately, the ToWhomItMayConcern people who could address this are either:
a. too lazy to comment
b. too oblivious to notice this thread has been at or near the top for over weak
c. flying something in game other than a deimos
or
d. they just don't give a frog's fat arse
Or it could be that they just don't know how to fix it without it effecting other things that would in turn need fixing but I doubt it.
At the moment we don't know if med blasters will be affected by the changes. Maybe the devs haven't decided what to do about blasters yet, and therefore they cannot say anything about the Deimos.
One thing that I'd like to point out is that the ship has powergrid problems regardless of the type of turrets.
Even a setup with 5x 200mm II railguns is complicated.
With adv. weapon upgrades lvl 4, after fitting 5x 200mm II and 1x Medium Armor Repairer II you are left with 32 PG. Not even enough for an AB. And hey you still have 9 (nine) empty slots. 
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:46:00 -
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Its rediculous that this thread has gone on so long without a dev responce, i mean, hell, just look at it :P
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Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.20 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 20/03/2006 19:49:04
Reminds me about something the dev said at the Vegas gathering 'Oh what's that? A topic that has 30 pages of something a guy doesn't like, WE GOT TO CHANGE THAT!'
But yea, It's not one guy, it's alot of people with the ability to use a deimos and turning on another ship because the deimos doesn't perform as it should..
Originally by: Ithildin
Q: Will the Gallente ship have lots of missiles? I think it's time.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.03.20 20:20:00 -
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Has anyone ever lost a Deimos to a Thorax, pre RMR, I did! Boost meh Deimos :s
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Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. |
Gary Goat
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Posted - 2006.03.21 01:08:00 -
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Has anyone ever lost a Deimos to a Thorax, pre RMR, I did! Boost meh Deimos :s
Wasnt there an eve vid where a thorax kills a deimos as well? Yes the pre rmr thorax was stupidly overpowered but enough so to kill a hac? I've never heard of any other hac beeing killed by a t1 cruiser.
Devs please read |
Emsigma
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Posted - 2006.03.21 09:26:00 -
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The main probz are still that the Deimos is as agile as a pregnant cow and don't have a grid to support even the medium guns =/
What's the point of making a blasterboat if every other ship outspeeds it?
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Techyon
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Posted - 2006.03.21 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 20/03/2006 19:49:04
Reminds me about something the dev said at the Vegas gathering 'Oh what's that? A topic that has 30 pages of something a guy doesn't like, WE GOT TO CHANGE THAT!'
But yea, It's not one guy, it's alot of people with the ability to use a deimos and turning on another ship because the deimos doesn't perform as it should..
Exactly, its not one guy and arguments provided have been backed up with figures 'n facts. Of course its subject to opinion as how to interpret those figures 'n facts.
But anyone who seriously flies the Deimos knows changes have to be made.
It depends on what happens to blasters where the fitting reqs are concerned, but it wether blasters are changed or not the Deimos needs a sig rad/agility/speed buff.
I hope the devs go fly the deimos themselves vs some other competent hacs pilots perhaps they'll realise we're not talking bs here.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:00:00 -
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not letting this thread die as it proves that deimos does infact need a somewhat boost in an area.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.03.21 21:47:00 -
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just flew my first (and for the forseable future last) deimos...the thing was a nightmare to fit PG wise..and as a blasterboat...its as fast as a lame snail carrying a 20 ton weight...something needs to be done with it.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.03.21 22:13:00 -
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QTF :)
and bump, keep bumping till we get responce
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Gary Goat
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Posted - 2006.03.22 16:02:00 -
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just flew my first (and for the forseable future last) deimos...the thing was a nightmare to fit PG wise..and as a blasterboat...its as fast as a lame snail carrying a 20 ton weight...something needs to be done with it.
See we're not just making this up to make our ship better then the rest. We just want it to be in line with other hacs. Is that really so much to ask?
Anybody want to start a pool on how many pages this thread will be before we get a dev response?
Devs please read |
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