Why would you carry nothing but trit anyway-Oh nevermind highsec people.

Station egg's & iHubs come to mind.

Not sure where you think Megathrons come from.

Next you'll tell me that it takes 20 JF trips to have all the trit for a Titan instead of a single trip.

So basically, because people are dumb we should remove freighters from the game?

You best be trolling.

Permanent podkilling.

Yes! That's a feature CCP should implement!
Carebears will finally fight back!

This won't backfire one bit!

If their original design has been invalidated by balance drift, the more reasonable thing to do would presumably be to address their balancing.

You could nerf t1 fit destroyer dps, give freighters more ehp, give freighters less cargo, make freighters less easy to hold with bumping, ect.

Next you'll tell me that it takes 20 JF trips to have all the trit for a Titan instead of a single trip.

If their original design has been invalidated by balance drift, the more reasonable thing to do would presumably be to address their balancing.

You could nerf t1 fit destroyer dps, give freighters more ehp, give freighters less cargo, make freighters less easy to hold with bumping, ect.

One destroyer cannot kill a freighter in hi sec unless you are at war or it otherwise legal combat it requires coordination of multiple assets which means there is profit to be made doing it, in short adjust the way that you fly, either limit your cargo or bring friends.

A frigate with double webs will help you get into warp that much faster reducing the risk or bumping and if you warp to zero and jump immediately it is very hard to get caught on the gates repeat for each jump.

I fly freighters and this is the way I do things, I fly with a double web Daredevil piloted by a friend not an alt he double webs me to help me get into warp quicker, plus I don't fly with a cargo value so high that I am attractive to gankers.

But if for some reason I need to move lots of more expensive things I bring more friends to scout ahead, twin logi and a heavy fast battleship.

Uncompressed? That would take ~150 JF trips unless my napkin math is off, or ~800 trips for some of your blobs.

If their original design has been invalidated by balance drift, the more reasonable thing to do would presumably be to address their balancing.

You could nerf t1 fit destroyer dps, give freighters more ehp, give freighters less cargo, make freighters less easy to hold with bumping, ect.

Uncompressed? That would take ~150 JF trips unless my napkin math is off, or ~800 trips for some of your blobs.

Really? it's considered bad form for civilian bulk carriers to be packing armed crewmen or guards, many ports won't let civilian vessels dock if there are armed personnel aboard.

Source : United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea

One destroyer cannot kill a freighter in hi sec unless you are at war or it otherwise legal combat it requires coordination of multiple assets which means there is profit to be made doing it

A frigate with double webs will help you get into warp that much faster reducing the risk or bumping and if you warp to zero and jump immediately it is very hard to get caught on the gates repeat for each jump.

I fly freighters and this is the way I do things, I fly with a double web Daredevil piloted by a friend not an alt he double webs me to help me get into warp quicker, plus I don't fly with a cargo value so high that I am attractive to gankers.

But if for some reason I need to move lots of more expensive things I bring more friends to scout ahead, twin logi and a heavy fast battleship.

You could nerf t1 fit destroyer dps, give freighters more ehp, give freighters less cargo, make freighters less easy to hold with bumping, ect.

There are fleets of military ships who intercept and destroy if necessary suspect vessels BEFORE they attack. They're not mindless npcs that let you offload the loot (scoop it) and dock in NY to sell the petroleum eh? Your RL examples are stupid in this discussion.

There are fleets of military ships who intercept and destroy if necessary suspect vessels BEFORE they attack. They're not mindless npcs that let you offload the loot (scoop it) and dock in NY to sell the petroleum eh? Your RL examples are stupid in this discussion.

Pointless.
Need more dps? Bring more people.
Has more EHP? Bring more people.
Harder to bump? Machariel.

Nobody ever seems to notice that every single day they blame other things for their own failures.
The saddest about this is that people call it human nature, just so they can keep going with jt.

The issue is that a 1.5m ship can do a stupid amount of dps, tipping the cost equation.

You're stupid!! seems to be your standard response when someone disagrees with you, could you perhaps be more constructive with your criticisms and provide reasons why it's stupid?

Yes there are military ships in the area, they're not particularly successful at intercepting pirates or preventing hijacks though, because they can't be everywhere at once.

Actually I didn't say You were stupid. I wouldn't call anyone stupid unless I personally knew them to be stupid. I said you're comparing piracy in RL to suicide ganking in EvE was stupid.

[quote=S Byerley]then you'd just bring less people in bigger ships, and you'd still be here crying that it was 15 brutix instead of 25 catalysts (numbers irrelevant, the point is the same).

none of your solutions actually solve a single thing, really.

While I won't fault you for your meticulous personal practices, I think high sec freighting is a boring enough activity already without requiring teamwork.

Because of all the small Ship buffs, Freighter and Jump freighter become really easy to gank in the High Sec.
Normally just say, dont carrie that much in a Freighter or Jumpfreighter but that is not the reason for beeing ganked, its just because its so easy. The Price of a Rhea for example is around 6.5 Billions and has around 300k EHP with Jump Freighter Skill Level 5.
17 Brutix kill this Ship without any risk worth around 1 Billion.
Even 25 Catalysts can destroy a Jump freighter in 0.5 Systems (around 560 DPS for 25 Seconds -> 14k+ Dmg *25 = 350k Dmg).
The Price of one Catalyst is around 12 mio full fittet (t2 with dmg rigs). So you have around 300 million loss for a guranteered Jump Freighter Kill a normal Freighter has less than 200k EHP and will be killed more easier.

Additional every ******* ISBoxer user can build up his own ganking squad like nothing. This combination was seen for example in 1.0 Systems with around 20 tornados between Jita and Amarr. Yes it was an ISBoxer, he was really stupid so he tried to smack in local and every of his alts did the same at the same second.

Please give the freighter and Jump Freighter Pilots a chance to survive in High Sec. They should still be killable by suizid gankers, but it must be in a way that the costs to gank these Ships must be the same than the costs of the ganked ship itself.

How does the name Destroyer not give you a clue as to the purpose of the ship? It's main design criteria is that it can do an excessive amount of DPS for the size and price of the platform, working as intended.

How does the name Destroyer not give you a clue as to the purpose of the ship? It's main design criteria is that it can do an excessive amount of DPS for the size and price of the platform, working as intended.

Ideally suited for both skirmish warfare and fleet support, the Catalyst is touted as one of the best anti-frigate platforms out there. Faced with its top-of-the-line tracking equipment, not many can argue.

It's boring, so instead of using the tactics used by the freighter pilots that don't get ganked, CCP should just make it easier for me to not get ganked.

I was under the impression they were originally supposed to be frigate killers -

Fair enough my apologies, I've edited the original post. Now please explain how my comparison of real life piracy to ingame piracy, which incidentally includes suicide ganking, was stupid.