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Joffy Aulx-Gao Stay Frosty. 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:25:00 - [31] - Quote I don't think it would be good that Stratios gets larger drone bay than Navy Dominix and Rattlesnake.
Titus Balls Stay Frosty. 8	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:27:00 - [32] - Quote Mirina Avalhar wrote: Only 2 High slots on the Astero?? So, if you have a cloak and a probe launcher, you get no turrets at all, just drones... I like the setup on the Stratios though. I thought this too - but then it's a frigate and even with three high slots one turret or launcher is pretty useless anyway if you go covops/probes. Maybe an slight increase in drone bandwidth or 2/4/5 so you can fit an extra stab (and RUN AWAY)?
Caroline Grace Almost Approved 356	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:28:00 - [33] - Quote Everything is wonderful and tasteful, however 550 cargo capacity for the cruiser doesn't seem as a "large cargo" to me... It's roughly big as a Stabber for example and from my experience I can load stuff into my Stabber from just one "scavenger trip" (looting wrecks on gates, sites loot etc), so I would go for 1000 when comes to SOE.
Radh'Uku jest33 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:28:00 - [34] - Quote no soe battleship?
Escobar Slim III YOLOSWAGHASHTAGDOLLARBILLZSWIMMINGPOOLICECREAMS 45	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:29:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Rise wrote: Escobar Slim III wrote: FIRST. Can I join your corp. OF COURSE. YOU HAVE MORE SWAG THAN I CAN SHAKE AN ICE CREAM CONE AT. ~ GÖÑ /ME SWOONS.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 371	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:30:00 - [36] - Quote Drop the cloak, drop the carebear bit, drop the laser bonus. 0/10.
Grarr Dexx Snuff Box 262	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:32:00 - [37] - Quote More bandwidth on a cruiser than on any battleship? Are the rest of the pirate factions going to be following this design trend? This is just better than the Gila in every way.
Edward Olmops Sirius Fleet 102	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:34:00 - [38] - Quote AWESOME! <3 But... I am missing the most important thing: where can I haz this??! Ok, I am not sure if you guys are willing to share this information at this point... I figure that at least one way to acquire the ships will be SoE LP stores. But unlike other pirate factions, there are no kill missions or plexes vs. SoE where these could possibly drop, am I right? And the price tag in the LP store will be rather steep. So please do seriously consider (if you have not done already) adding these beauties to the loot tables of Data and/or Relic sites somewhere. I think this would nicely fit with the exploration theme of these ships. (even though it's not PERFECTLY clear why a SoE BPC should drop in a Local Guristas Mainframe - but maybe in one of these Relic ship graveyards, that would be more appropriate)

CCP Rise C C P C C P Alliance 2792	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:34:00 - [39] - Quote Quote: I do question the armor resistance bonus only on the fact you (CCP) have said how you really dislike the passive resistance bonuses. Is it wise to be introducing more ships with these into the game? We felt the ships needed a defensive bonus of some kind to help them run sites, but we didn't want to use the Gal side of the bonus for active armor rep (especially since people don't love active armor rep bonuses generally).

epicurus ataraxia Unchained Industrial Collective Defiance Enterprises 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:35:00 - [40] - Quote Please,if you can't increase the virus strength to match covert ops, let the covert ops skill add the other 5% i would hate not to be able to use this and forced to use covert ops instead. This is sisters of eve! They are meant to be good at scanning and exploration!

FlinchingNinja Kishunuba Crunchy Crunchy Zero Hour Alliance 147	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:35:00 - [41] - Quote Can you jumps these via covert jump portals? Don't care about cyno.
Capqu Love Squad 246	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:40:00 - [42] - Quote just noticed the lack of expanded probe launcher cpu bonus is this intentional? considering these are faction exploration ships i would have thought combat probing was at the forefront of their pvp usages overall they seem a bit on the weak side when it comes to being covert in a pvp scenario. no cyno on the frigate, no combat probes on either. the cruiser certainly has respectable damage with any of the turret weapon systems, but will have trouble fitting reasonable tank although after skills i guess it actually has better than 300 cpu after all the best thing about the frigate is it's the first ship in the game that can bridge for reasonable fuel cost and actually fight other frigates - something bomber fleets traditionally have a lot of trouble with http://pizza.eve-kill.net
Capqu Love Squad 246	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:40:00 - [43] - Quote FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote: Can you jumps these via covert jump portals? Don't care about cyno. of course, anything that has the ability to fit a covert cloak can take a covert bridge http://pizza.eve-kill.net
Alphax45v2 Hall Of The Dead 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:41:00 - [44] - Quote :( @ the 2/4/4 on the frig; needs more highs for pew pew and cloak/probe. 4/4/4 would be great!
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 1599	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:41:00 - [45] - Quote The laser cap bonus is kind of an arbitrary bonus, without a damage or tracking bonus it will be neglected for what ever the pilots favored weapon will be. Usually autocannons. The 37.5% scan bonus is a perfect fit as is the +5 to virus strength. I'm not liking the 5/5/5 slot layout, a 4/5/6 would optimize the ship for exploration. Or better a 5/4/6. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement
l0rd carlos Friends Of Harassment 569	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:44:00 - [46] - Quote 5 Sentry drones? Awesome! FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote: Can you jumps these via covert jump portals? Don't care about cyno. I also want to know that. I guess it should work? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com
Naomi Anthar 118	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:45:00 - [47] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Please,if you can't increase the virus strength to match covert ops, let the covert ops skill add the other 5% i would hate not to be able to use this and forced to use covert ops instead. This is sisters of eve! They are meant to be good at scanning and exploration! I second that ... faction ship may have bigger bonus than standard t1 even if it is not T2. (just to mention 25% bonus energy turret on augoror/slicer etc)
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 371	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:47:00 - [48] - Quote Alphax45v2 wrote: :( @ the 2/4/4 on the frig; needs more highs for pew pew and cloak/probe. 4/4/4 would be great! All the bad frigates have utility highslots. Mids and lows are far better.
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction 531	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:47:00 - [49] - Quote Omnathious Deninard wrote: The laser cap bonus is kind of an arbitrary bonus, without a damage or tracking bonus it will be neglected for what ever the pilots favored weapon will be. Usually autocannons. The 37.5% scan bonus is a perfect fit as is the +5 to virus strength. I'm not liking the 5/5/5 slot layout, a 4/5/6 would optimize the ship for exploration. Or better a 5/4/6. not if you are smart and do not need to select damage types. Pulses have far better damage projection than AC, specially with scorch.
Satori Sartori X-Type Prospectors 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:47:00 - [50] - Quote Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think most people would fit another weapon system over lasers, due to the low number of slots and the lack of a damage/tracking bonus. The capacitor bonus by itself basically says 'if this wasn't here, no one would consider lasers, but since it's there, the thought might pass through your mind and then you'll dismiss it and fit fotm weapon system/neuts' and I feel it isn't enough to warrant laser usage. I think it's a handy bonus to have on a laser-using ship, but first you have to actually make the Stratios an attractive laser platform. A range or a small damage bonus might be interesting, either in addition to the capacitor use bonus or in a different combination.

Michael Harari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED 652	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:50:00 - [51] - Quote Can you confirm that these both have t1 resistance profiles?
Hosedna FumbleFamily Corp 85	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:52:00 - [52] - Quote Funny, I was expecting something more faction neutral, like the Gnosis, where you can choose pretty much what weapons system you want. Could've been interesting. And since there is no role bonus anyway on dmg or projection, most people will end up fitting autocannons ! So ... What about either removing the laser capa bonus, and replacing it either by a bonus for each weapon system (and add 2 missiles points), or replacing it by another exploration bonus, and letting us choose our weapons ?
Naomi Anthar 119	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:52:00 - [53] - Quote Grarr Dexx wrote: More bandwidth on a cruiser than on any battleship? Are the rest of the pirate factions going to be following this design trend? This is just better than the Gila in every way. You may be correct ... but pirate ships are before balance pass. So this Gila may be diffrent from new Gila.

CCP Rise C C P C C P Alliance 2799	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:54:00 - [54] - Quote Was considering optimal bonus instead of cap use. Maybe can continue to consider that. We didn't want to do damage bonus in the role bonus because then you would have like 900 dps covert cloaking cruiser which is way too much. Optimal might work though.

Mole Guy Xoth Inc 398	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:54:00 - [55] - Quote woot!!!

CCP Rise C C P C C P Alliance 2799	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:54:00 - [56] - Quote Naomi Anthar wrote: Grarr Dexx wrote: More bandwidth on a cruiser than on any battleship? Are the rest of the pirate factions going to be following this design trend? This is just better than the Gila in every way. You may be correct ... but pirate ships are before balance pass. So this Gila may be diffrent from new Gila. Confirming new Gila will be different and hopefully very cool.


CCP Rise C C P C C P Alliance 2799	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:55:00 - [57] - Quote And yes, you can use covert portals.

epicurus ataraxia Unchained Industrial Collective Defiance Enterprises 3	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:56:00 - [58] - Quote Naomi Anthar wrote: epicurus ataraxia wrote: Please,if you can't increase the virus strength to match covert ops, let the covert ops skill add the other 5% i would hate not to be able to use this and forced to use covert ops instead. This is sisters of eve! They are meant to be good at scanning and exploration! I second that ... faction ship may have bigger bonus than standard t1 even if it is not T2. (just to mention 25% bonus energy turret on augoror/slicer etc) Thank you, well put, this is so much more than just another T1 Frigate, after all S.O.E pirate faction are explorers! With teeth in the cruiser, I so want to fly that ship.
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 1601	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:57:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Rise wrote: Was considering optimal bonus instead of cap use. Maybe can continue to consider that. We didn't want to do damage bonus in the role bonus because then you would have like 900 dps covert cloaking cruiser which is way too much. Optimal might work though. I think you should change it to a 50% cloak CPU reduction. Without a bonus it leaves the ship with 300 CPU and that is T1 cruiser levels. The lowest CPU a pirate faction cruiser has is 350. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction 532	Posted - 2013.10.02 15:57:00 - [60] - Quote Hosedna wrote: Funny, I was expecting something more faction neutral, like the Gnosis, where you can choose pretty much what weapons system you want. Could've been interesting. And since there is no role bonus anyway on dmg or projection, most people will end up fitting autocannons ! So ... What about removing the laser capa bonus, and replacing it either by a bonus for each weapon system (and add 2 missiles points), or replacing it by another exploration bonus, and letting us choose our weapons ? always amazes me how people liek to fit the weakest weapon system on this condition. AC have less dps than ANY weapon system, that is because minmatar ships have the ROF bonuses (strogner than damage ones). Lasers and blasters are far stronger when unbonused.



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