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Eko Fromtv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:32:00 -
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Thank you CCP \o/
I forgive any and all of your previous mistakes. Stratios is the ship I have been waiting for.
Maybe add some lazor damage bonuses :)
Please keep the colour scheme as is.
WTB: Stratios 400mil (Ice) Miner for life. |
WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
88
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:33:00 -
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Sexy |
Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:34:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:I'm comparing the Stratios to a N.Vexor Quote:Stratios
Role Bonus: 50% reduction in Energy Turret capacitor need Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus) Role Bonus: +5 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers
Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices
Amarr Cruiser Bonus: 4% bonus to Armor Resists
Gallente Cruiser Bonus: 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 4 turrets, 0 launchers Fittings: 920 PWG, 400 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1950 / 2400 / 2450 Capacitor (amount) : 1700 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 182 / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7 Sensor strength: 20 Signature radius: 150 Cargo Capacity: 550 Quote:Vexor Navy Issue: 5 heavy drones make this a very exciting ship, at the expense of almost all the gun damage. Flies like a modified Ishtar or Gila, sacrificing resists and dronebay for easier damage application. Cruiser skill bonuses: 5% bonus to drone velocity and tracking 10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield Slot layout: 4 H(-1), 4 M(+1), 6 L, 2(-3) turrets Fittings: 800 PWG(+100), 310(+10) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1650(-635) / 3000(+539) / 3000(+187) Shield Recharge Time: 1250s(-550) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 1500(+125) / 490s(-1.25) / 3 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220(+40) / 0.44(-0.106) / 11310000(+400,000) / 6.9s(-1.36) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125(+25) / 200(+100) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 52.5km / 285(+9) / 7(+1) Sensor strength: 20(+3) Magnetometric Signature radius: 135 Cargo capacity: 460(+195) Both have 10% drone HP and Damage Both have same base resist profile. Stratios has larger drone bay Stratios has a larger Cargo Bay. Stratios can utilize covert cloaks. Stratios has better fittings. Stratios has better capacitor. Stratios gets role bonuses to Exploration (Scanning, Hacking, Analyzing) Stratios has a 4%/level to Armor resists compared to a 5% drone velocity and tracking bonus. Stratios has one less low, for an extra low and an extra high. NVexor gets 25% more armor and hull. NVexor has 25% faster base speed, but unsure how it will compare in mwd velocity. TBH, doesn't this new ship pretty much obsolete the Navy Vexor?
The only source of this ship will be LP from null sec missions. You can't get bpcs for them from exploration or plexes. SoE agents will be hell camped to an absurd degree by gankers, this ship is going to be absurdly expensive. Seriously, 5 bonuses heavies and 5 guns on a covops cruiser? It's more DPS than a covops blaster Proteus and it doesn't need to be at point blank range.
I'm guessing 500m price tag for the hull minimum.
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Bagehi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
219
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:34:00 -
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What is this madness? Tanked, cloaky, drone boats? SOE don't have enough agents to handle the demand for these ships. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
961
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:35:00 -
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I'm legitimately impressed; these ships appear to have a multitude of uses without stepping on the role of more specialized ships (ie not probing better than a covert ops frigate).
+1 |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
4210
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:35:00 -
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Capacitor recharge time? CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
289
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:36:00 -
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Can we get the cap role bonus on the Stratios changed to a targeting delay reduction? It is a pretty useless role bonus. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
655
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:36:00 -
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Xequecal wrote: The only source of this ship will be LP from null sec missions.
There are SoE agents in highsec
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:37:00 -
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Destoya wrote:What are the LP prices for these? Logic would say same like for other "pirate" ships |
Syrias Bizniz
The Scope Gallente Federation
219
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:37:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Syrias Bizniz wrote:blablabla
Funnya s you testes AC and blasters and ignored the LASER. Specially at a REASONABLE range. Only the most innocent look at raw DPS numbers and think they mean something. Check damage on each 3 weapon systems at 20 km ( near edge of tackle range)
Let's be honest: A 250mm Railgun has the same powergrid need as a heavy pulse lasers, while requiring more CPU, and will outdps it at scorch range while loading STANDARD ANTIMATTER, and will Outdps at IMPERIAL NAVY Multifreq Range (i know, same range as t1, but just for using faction ammo here) while using javelin. And with the Capacitor Rolebonus, both weapon systems will need the same cap/s.
If i decide to go for Beam lasers now, ... the Railgun is roughly equal in dps and range, with worse tracking.
You're either far enough out so that tracking isn't an issue, or up close enough to use webs. And if you decide to go up close with the ship, why go for lasers? Autocannons provide better tracking, choosable damagetypes and don't cost cap.
THAT'S why i used autocannons and blasters in my setup. Because without a dmg bonus, lasers suck. |
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Delois Lunar
B0rthole
1
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:37:00 -
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Since they can fit cov op cloaks, any chance they will be able to fit cov op cynos? |
Eternal Curiousity
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:38:00 -
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So...Ammar/Gallente skills? No love for Minmatar or Caldari? |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1700
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:39:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules)
Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
655
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:41:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules) Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them.
So you swap to berserkers.
Edit: Lets be honest - every rat hunter version of this ship will fit no turrets of any type. It will be cloak, probes, neuts, (cyno) |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1219
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:47:00 -
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I like it |
Anshu Zephyran
Zephyran INC StructureDamage
16
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:52:00 -
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Adding my voice to the "virus bonus too small", "too few highs on the frigate", and "why a laser cap use bonus?" bandwagons. In the last case I'd prefer a scan probe launcher CPU reduction thing. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
534
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:53:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules) Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them.
Base resist of ARMOR .. Pulses do about same damage as AC with FUSION. And when firing against shields Pulse lasers are far more powerful than AC with EMP.
AC are only strogn when they have their ROF bonus. |
Syrias Bizniz
The Scope Gallente Federation
219
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:53:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules) Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them. So you swap to berserkers. Edit: Lets be honest - every rat hunter version of this ship will fit no turrets of any type. It will be cloak, probes, neuts, (cyno)
Like dis?
[Stratios, Ay Nal Probe] Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Co-Processor II
10MN Afterburner II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
TDs are pretty much *whatever*, but definately handy when going up against any turret ship. Ogres will still punch 750 dps, the rep is for emergency and probably cycles once or twice, and i picked small neuts because mediums will use to much CPU... But there's probably still a lot of room for improvements in the highslots, the grid is there...
588/589.05 CPU used. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
657
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:55:00 -
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Id go with sebo and cap booster over the TDs, but yeah, something like that |
Arthur Aihaken
The.VOID
252
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:58:00 -
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Is there a Battleship planned, or just the Frigate and Cruiser? (cool with the 2 ships, just curious) I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
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Syrias Bizniz
The Scope Gallente Federation
220
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:58:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules) Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them. Base resist of ARMOR .. Pulses do about same damage as AC with FUSION. And when firing against shields Pulse lasers are far more powerful than AC with EMP. AC are only strogn when they have their ROF bonus.
before bonuses apply, a 425mm Autocannon with RF Fusion will deal 37,3 dps. While shooting explosive. Or em. Or therm. A Heavy Pulse laser with IN Multifreq will deal 41.6 dps. While being holed into EM / Therm.
So unless you're shooting ships that have a hole on EM / Therm, Projectiles are always better. and even then, they're maximum SLIGHTLY WORSE. It is true that it will be better at scorching ranges, but i already showed you earlier that this is basically where you want Railguns already.
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Legion40k
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL
28
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:59:00 -
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So the frigate can do DPS with 5 Light Drones without a damage skill (tracking, really!?) Two highs so you can't probe and drop people, instead fly around and hope they're not in a site
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No-one is gonna fit lasers to the cruiser if they like to shoot immediately after bridging. It's like the Old Maller before it got a damage bonus, only, faction or something.
wonderful, im sold already.
Frigate needs +1 Highslot, 5-10% Drone Damage instead of track and its done! it cant kill a PvP Venture 1v1 Cruiser needs a reason to fit lasers over anything else, otherwise itll be some strange logi Sin miniature with Ogre II's
Where's the Battleship theory crafting stats? I want more disappointment |
Roime
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
3532
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:00:00 -
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Quote:Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L
ooooo the Holy Grail <33333
also, dat drone bay
I'll have 5 frigs and 10 of the cruisers, please ship directly to Nisuwa tyvm!
Notify-á-á You cannot do that while warping. |
Jon Joringer
Zero-K
35
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:00:00 -
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Wondering a bit about the supposed 'large' cargo capacity on the cruiser. 550m3 is on the larger side for cruisers, but I was really expecting something more along the lines of the Gnosis -- that huge 900m3 cargo bay would really let this ship stay off the grid and out exploring for a really long time. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
8
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:03:00 -
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Jon Joringer wrote:Wondering a bit about the supposed 'large' cargo capacity on the cruiser. 550m3 is on the larger side for cruisers, but I was really expecting something more along the lines of the Gnosis -- that huge 900m3 cargo bay would really let this ship stay off the grid and out exploring for a really long time.
That wouldn't make sense, the Gnosis was a battlecruiser. If there ever is a SOE-bs, it can have the gigantic cargo bay. Really, 550m-¦ for a cruiser is good enough. Especially in addition to the large drone bay.
And please don't remove the laser-bonus! Lasers are my favourite weapons and I'm suffering long enough for it already. |
Xequecal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:05:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:I prefer to kil lmy enemy faster with superior weapons > if you have half the dps in the AC you will end up using MORE cap at the fight (becausse of the other modules) Unbonused laser DPS is nice. Until you're shooting into their highest resist and doing nothing because you can't actually select the damage you're doing to them. Base resist of ARMOR .. Pulses do about same damage as AC with FUSION. And when firing against shields Pulse lasers are far more powerful than AC with EMP. AC are only strogn when they have their ROF bonus. before bonuses apply, a 425mm Autocannon with RF Fusion will deal 37,3 dps. While shooting explosive. Or em. Or therm. A Heavy Pulse laser with IN Multifreq will deal 41.6 dps. While being holed into EM / Therm. So unless you're shooting ships that have a hole on EM / Therm, Projectiles are always better. and even then, they're maximum SLIGHTLY WORSE. It is true that it will be better at scorching ranges, but i already showed you earlier that this is basically where you want Railguns already. ACs never do full DPS you're always in falloff to some extent. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1447
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:08:00 -
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Why did we need this?
Its just.. ugh..
At least the models look kinda nice.. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Edward Pierce
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
120
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:13:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: Astero
Role Bonus: 100% reduction in CPU requiement for cloaks Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus) Role Bonus: +5 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers
Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices
Amarr Frigate Bonus: 4% bonus to Armor Resists
Gallente Frigate Bonus: 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and tracking speed
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 75
Do light drones really need a tracking bonus? For drone on drone combat perhaps? |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate Naquatech Syndicate
1220
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:13:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Is there a Battleship planned, or just the Frigate and Cruiser? (cool with the 2 ships, just curious) For the later date i would say... maby Summer ? |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1312
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Posted - 2013.10.02 17:15:00 -
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not sure if the ship needs that many high slots. i would get more use out of an extra low so i can fit more tank or more gank but no real need to split weapon focus here.
so this is what i would do
CCP Rise wrote: Stratios
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus) Role Bonus: +5 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers
Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices
Amarr Cruiser Bonus: 4% bonus to Armor Resists
Gallente Cruiser Bonus: 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage
Slot layout: 4H, 5M, 6L; 4 turrets, 0 launchers Fittings: 920 PWG, 400 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1950 / 2400 / 2450 Capacitor (amount) : 1700 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 182 / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7 Sensor strength: 20 Signature radius: 150 Cargo Capacity: 550
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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