There are lots of good suggestions in the thread that would help keep this more focused on the role as an exploration ship,that balance it's power as a pve fit whilst avoiding the more extreme PvP fits, if you have any good ideas that would assist in this balancing, I am sure that tomorrow being Monday Ccp Rise will take them into account too.

There are some extreme posts spammed in the thread,but those I feel confident may be cleaned off by the morning .

Sisters of EVE are an international humanitarian science-and-religion organization, according to their info panel.

I like the idea of exploration bonuses, but is there any plan to incorporate some kind of remote boosting or repair feature in some capacity? Like a bonus to repair modules or drones or support activity?

I think they are being more focused on single player mode rather than fleet,but I am really not sure, I think people are a bit scared of mission creep, but so much noise in this thread i lost touch with what real peoples opinion was on this,
Something was mentioned about clouds of cloaky reppers, but not sure if that was a real person or one of the spammers.

Define "enough." If you have access to T2 exploration modules it probably won't hurt you too much, as blowing 1 can in 100 instead of 1 can in 200 is an incredibly minor ISK/hour loss, even if it is double the cans blown. However, if you only have T1 modules, it's an immense nerf and makes the ship completely non-viable. 30 virus strength can actually kill a mainframe virus suppressor, 25 virus strength is completely unable to even starting from full HP. 25 VS is also completely unable to kill a system core while virus suppressed, 30 VS can. 30 VS also kills firewalls, restoration nodes, and system cores in three attacks instead of four, resulting in 33% less damage taken.

You will probably lose one mainframe in three with only 25 VS, 30 VS is probably like one in ten. 25 VS means revealing a single suppressor is pretty much an automatic failure unless you find a kernel rot or attack vector to get rid of it.

Why is this allowed?

[Stratios, Webs are token EWAR]
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I

Ogre II x5

A cloaky ship with 760 dps, 3 ewar slots and 55k ehp BEFORE res shift?

Seriously? what the ****?

I guess it's the cloak thing who scare the **** out of everyone ; yet cloaky T3 exist for years and they are even less common than 100MN AB ones...

You are saying that you want to do high end exploration without skills to do it. And you want CCP to help you on top of that ? Come on...

That's ridiculous...

very very strong concencus is for + 10 virus strength,

Cloaky T3s dont do 700+ DPS, not even the Prot (maxes at around 500ish with proper fit and next to no range on that damage).

A concencus between you and all who agree with you. All others are malign spammers.

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You are simply epic !

As I already said, you only have one more mid slot than a Navy Vexor or Ishtar. The Ishtar also have a lot more tank and firepower., and the Navy Vexor have better heavy drones, and I haven't saw you so scared when navy cruisers were rebalanced.

I guess it's the cloak thing who scare the **** out of everyone ; yet cloaky T3 exist for years and they are even less common than 100MN AB ones...

Cloaky t3's are way more expensive and i'm pretty damn sure that the Stratios beats them hands down in combat capabilities.

Also "Just one more" midslot is kind of a big deal.

There is one odd thing with the Stratios in fact : it have the same number of slots than other pirate ships, which is odd considering drone boats all have one less slots ; except for the Gila.

Yes could do with -1 slot. But traditionally the lost slot is a high slot for drone boats, at least that is what the Ishtar lost, and te Myrmidon lost, the Eos has one less high slot also.

Remove the ******* stupid covert ops thing from these ships and make them some other than a group of overpowered twatmobiles.

The Stratios could hold his own in a fight against ANY other pirate cruiser.. (Decimating most in fact) AND it has a cloak? I don't understand the logic behind giving a supposedly more rounded pirate ship the specialization bonus of a recon, its really weird.

Not true.

If you calculate the dps the same way people calculated it for the Stratios (overheat all guns and drones), then you have 630 dps with the Proteus.

And the Stratios don't have any more range than blasters. We are talking Ogre dps. And T3 have twice the tank of this Stratios BTW.

Didn't read every post in here, but i got a question that comes with the new ships ... are there plans to bring out new sisters of eve items like for example a sisters of eve analyzer and or other items? .... just as a idea tho :)

Didn't read every post in here, but i got a question that comes with the new ships ... are there plans to bring out new sisters of eve items like for example a sisters of eve analyzer and or other items? .... just as a idea tho :)

I'd love to see a Sister's Analyzer. Slightly better than T1 (25 strength vs 20, T2 has 30). Catch is that it can do both data and relic sites so you can save yourself a midslot at the cost of efficiency.

I think being able to do both would be extremely OP, especially if it was better than a T1 at that point. It would have to either be like other faction mods and have easier fitting and same stats as T2 or heaver fitting and better than T2.

For one to do both it would need to be worse at it than a T1 module.

Cloaky T3s dont do 700+ DPS, not even the Prot (maxes at around 500ish with proper fit and next to no range on that damage).

15km overheated web range to max Ogre damage application is far greater than 3km void range.

Indeed, but if we go for details like this, we should stop these ridiculous numbers considering oh dps with blasters/void in the Stratios too and start talking about more rational things.

What remain is Ogre dps (4 unbonused guns do marginal dps compared to them). And then, well, it's ogres. If they were so blatantly overpowered, we would know it I think and drone boat wouldn't bother carrying anything else with them would they ?

It's just common sense here : the dps figures of the Stratios come almost only from the Ogres, yet Ogres were more often laugh at than feared and suddenly, because a ship with a cloak have them, they become completely overpowered.

Why would you use a cloaky ship for missions? =/

Also there is plenty of broken PVE in this game, these ships are not going to significantly break it to be even worth talking about.

IMO, ships should be balance around pvp, and PVE should be balanced around that. But thats just me.


I'm most concerned by the addition of a high tank, high dps cloaky ship with a metric fuckton of ewar..

The Proteus does almost no DPS at 15km. The Stratios does 75% of its DPS at 15km. Also no one requires that you fit blasters. You can use lasers or ACs.

Why would Proteus decloak at 15km?