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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1057
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:11:00 -
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Volunder wrote:A SOE Frigate that can't fit an SOE expanded probe launcher seems like a miss to me. I see a PVE viability to both ships. But PVP viability escapes the frigate w/out being able to fit an expanded probe launcher. Hoping this is fixed before going live.
The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it. |
Volunder
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:38:00 -
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"The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it."
What to understand is not whether it was deliberate or not...but more importantly the thought behind it. Do the developers feel it tramples on the role of covert ops frigs? |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1807
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Posted - 2013.11.13 02:42:00 -
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Volunder wrote:"The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it."
What to understand is not whether it was deliberate or not...but more importantly the thought behind it. Do the developers feel it tramples on the role of covert ops frigs? The role of the ship is an all in one exploration ship. This does not require a expanded probe launcher to do. It has a dual funcation as a PVP ship in hunting down explorers, in which case the core probe launcher still works. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Powers Sa
721
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Posted - 2013.11.13 11:04:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Volunder wrote:A SOE Frigate that can't fit an SOE expanded probe launcher seems like a miss to me. I see a PVE viability to both ships. But PVP viability escapes the frigate w/out being able to fit an expanded probe launcher. Hoping this is fixed before going live. The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it. I'm glad you're such an expert on these ships. lol |
Cheng Musana
BetaMax Beta
23
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:42:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Volunder wrote:"The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it."
What to understand is not whether it was deliberate or not...but more importantly the thought behind it. Do the developers feel it tramples on the role of covert ops frigs? The role of the ship is an all in one exploration ship. This does not require a expanded probe launcher to do. It has a dual funcation as a PVP ship in hunting down explorers, in which case the core probe launcher still works. Exactly if you want to hunt people then take a different ship like a T3 or covert ops. SOE pilosophy is mainly for self defence not agressive combat. Some people lack the lore in depth to understand this and just want a PVP ship which side role is exploration. And because of the PVP EFT warriors the stratios got pre nerf batted. Well done everybody. |
Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
13
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Posted - 2013.11.13 19:20:00 -
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swap one med to high slot and we are good to go ! CCP Ytterbium As designers, we can tell Caldari have three main points going for them as a race and that is, missile, hybrids and ECM. To be an all-rounded Caldari pilot, one must realize all aspects have to be considered and learned! |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1061
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:55:00 -
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Powers Sa wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Volunder wrote:A SOE Frigate that can't fit an SOE expanded probe launcher seems like a miss to me. I see a PVE viability to both ships. But PVP viability escapes the frigate w/out being able to fit an expanded probe launcher. Hoping this is fixed before going live. The lack of CPU bonus to probe launchers was deliberate. I don't know how many times this has to be said before people understand it. I'm glad you're such an expert on these ships.
Thanks. I, too, am glad that I know how to read dev posts and make very basic inferences without having to be told every little thing like a five-year-old. |
Kithrus
Deus Fides Empire Curatores Veritatis Alliance
290
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Posted - 2013.11.13 22:32:00 -
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I just wish it didn't look like a search and rescue ship. I know that makes sense with the SOE but to be honest any ship that can fit a covert ops cloak should look like its naturally stealthy not...
"OMG here comes the SOE Ambulance!... why are they ganking us?" |
Naomi Anthar
154
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Posted - 2013.11.14 13:12:00 -
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After all changes those are nice ships. Not as overpowered as they were in the start (125 band). Looks really cool. And hell i always like more faction ships. 10/10 |
Sgt Ocker
State War Academy Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:44:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:After all changes those are nice ships. Not as overpowered as they were in the start (125 band). Looks really cool. And hell i always like more faction ships. 10/10 Another way to look at this is; Pirate ships are in line for rebalancing, Stratios has been "Rebalanced" prior to release, what can we look forward to once our beloved Cynabal's, vigilant's, Ashimmu's, etc hit the "rebalance" chopping block?
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Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
360
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:55:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Naomi Anthar wrote:After all changes those are nice ships. Not as overpowered as they were in the start (125 band). Looks really cool. And hell i always like more faction ships. 10/10 Another way to look at this is; Pirate ships are in line for rebalancing, Stratios has been "Rebalanced" prior to release, what can we look forward to once our beloved Cynabal's, vigilant's, Ashimmu's, etc hit the "rebalance" chopping block?
Inb4 massive Cynabal/Machariel nerf. |
sabastyian
Death By Design
10
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Posted - 2013.11.15 06:43:00 -
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Few fits i worked up.... http://i.imgur.com/tYYlqa6.png nano shield with my skills ( 98-99% effective ) http://i.imgur.com/vHo22Sg.png covert ops hot dropping ( read text box ) http://i.imgur.com/AGZcutv.png highest dps fit you can get with armor tank ( still less then a navy vexor.... ) http://i.imgur.com/E4ubaj5.png navy vexor i threw together quickly for a reference about the damage the new cruiser does. An auto cannon nano triple DDA'd SOE cruiser still does less then a navy vexor..... |
Orionos Irvam
Enso Holdings Inc.
59
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Posted - 2013.11.15 12:09:00 -
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So am I understanding correctly that there will be no bonus to cloak reactivation time? If you seriously want people who are not used to low/null exploration to give it a go you really need to sort this out. If they are going to be as pricey as many think it would be nice to have a 5 second reactivation delay. |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1840
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Posted - 2013.11.15 13:01:00 -
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Neither ship gets to fit a covert cyno field generator: they are not pirate hot drop mobiles. Neither ship gets a cloaking device reactivation delay reduction: they will require some creative thinking to use. The Cruiser does not get a bonus to cloaking device CPU: you will have to pick and choose your modules well. Novis Initiis is Recruting-á --á Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:09:00 -
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Rise, where are you? Giev bonus to laser damage, otherwise that range bonus will be more or less wasted. Peoples will fit hybrids, projectiles, neuts, exotic dancers, whatever and you know that. C'mon, after stealing that one drone for no reason, now is the time to do something good. Make laserz look cool. |
Sasha 40
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:51:00 -
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CCP, please return back "125mb/s" drones bandwidth, or change drones main offensive to gunnery or missiles main offensive, with damage bonus. Please STOP creating, not usable crap-ships! Gila with 125mb/s and 10% bonus is "not overpowered", Stratus "overpowered", WTF??? |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.11.15 16:16:00 -
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Sasha 40 wrote: Gila with 125mb/s and 10% bonus is "not overpowered", Stratus "overpowered", WTF???
CCP is scared to release a cloaky Ishtar but they are wrong. Eve desperately needs one. Ask explorers, they know what's good for their business. |
Inagua
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:15:00 -
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Dog voices do not go to heaven (proverb)
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd CAStabouts
1083
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Posted - 2013.11.15 17:38:00 -
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Inagua wrote:Dog voices do not go to heaven (proverb)
I'm not quite sure what that means... but I would like to disagree, sir. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1477
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Posted - 2013.11.15 20:40:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote:I was just thinking that instead of reducing the Stratios' firepower by limiting it's drone bandwidth, you could give it the same bonus as the Astero - 20% bonus to drone hitpoints Yep we thought of something like this also, but really it's much worse. Like others said above, the hp isn't nearly as useful on the cruiser, and it's a huge damage nerf. 50% instead of 20%.
i just find it odd that with less then a few days left this is the last word on the ships we will get from CCP.
its sad the ship got nerfed before anyone of use had a chance to fit it.
if they had waited they would have figured out its terrible pg would have limited the potential EFT dps. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:11:00 -
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was useful and of interest ... now crap after nerf
my guess at reason for nerf ... nullsec overlords applied presssure to CCP complaining that it would alllow highsec carebears to sneak into null and freak out all the locals |
Dato Koppla
Retribution Innovations
360
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:29:00 -
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So far CCP has made second balance passes on the ships that turned out to be lackluster when released. Granted some ships are still not too good despite being rebalanced twice coughriftercough but I doubt this is the last iteration of the Stratios/Astero so stop complaining. |
Kosetzu
S1lver Flame
85
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:42:00 -
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I guess we'll see how those who only play TQ adapts this ship when it gets properly "released".
Hopefully they'll see how odd it is with a 30 second recloaking timer on a ship with the Covert cloak. And I'd rather remove a turret slot for the 125mbit drone bandwith. Laser optimal is rather meh as well in my opinion, at least not a cap usage bonus, but range... Might as well use another weapon system at this point.
You'd have to dock to drop of any loot you find at any rate, which limits the time it can stay out there unless you're only in it for bounties. |
Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour
681
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:50:00 -
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Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Rise, where are you? Giev bonus to laser damage, otherwise that range bonus will be more or less wasted. Peoples will fit hybrids, projectiles, neuts, exotic dancers, whatever and you know that. C'mon, after stealing that one drone for no reason, now is the time to do something good. Make laserz look cool.
You do realise that a range bonus is an effictive bonus to applied damage of lasers right? being one of the best damage projecting weapons in game a range bonus is a real boost. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
Esil Da
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.11.16 00:57:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:So far CCP has made second balance passes on the ships that turned out to be lackluster when released. Granted some ships are still not too good despite being rebalanced twice coughriftercough but I doubt this is the last iteration of the Stratios/Astero so stop complaining.
We not complaining, we talking about next one non usable ship, it is a big difference
In the EVE incredible many degraded ships&other stuff after "rebalancing"(are much more problems, but this thread not for that), please stop praise and crawl CCP. Better lower dps from gunnary-missiles, than drone "EFT DPS"(large drones dies too fast, and where your DPS ??) 4x Ogre can use in close range 1vs1 PvP, no more . |
Inagua
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:20:00 -
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Who want , that understand what i mean
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Shiruba Ryoutoshi
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 01:59:00 -
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The only thing that I don't like is the laser bonus on the cruiser. I love using hybrid turrets and the bonus being there makes me feel like I wouldn't be using all of what ship has without using lasers.
I'd like to see either a bonus to hybrid turrets added as well, the laser bonus removed like with the frigate, or a weapon bonus that affects both indirectly. |
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:58:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Rise, where are you? Giev bonus to laser damage, otherwise that range bonus will be more or less wasted. Peoples will fit hybrids, projectiles, neuts, exotic dancers, whatever and you know that. C'mon, after stealing that one drone for no reason, now is the time to do something good. Make laserz look cool. You do realise that a range bonus is an effictive bonus to applied damage of lasers right? being one of the best damage projecting weapons in game a range bonus is a real boost. No. |
Kalissis
37
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Posted - 2013.11.16 13:31:00 -
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All I can say:
Stratios - Eve Rubicon Stillbirth R.I.P. |
Esil Da
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.11.16 18:42:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:Niena Nuamzzar wrote:Rise, where are you? Giev bonus to laser damage, otherwise that range bonus will be more or less wasted. Peoples will fit hybrids, projectiles, neuts, exotic dancers, whatever and you know that. C'mon, after stealing that one drone for no reason, now is the time to do something good. Make laserz look cool. You do realise that a range bonus is an effictive bonus to applied damage of lasers right? being one of the best damage projecting weapons in game a range bonus is a real boost.
When that talk simple player out of ignorance, is not very bad. But when that speaks developer, that is complete professionals misunderstanding of their work OR for money, to be totally disregard players. I do not have other ideas ... I do not talk about balancing how it not needed, only this is a good work is done by the untrained practitioner or for moneys, such work does not make sense,only problems. every patch with a large advertising and promises is given of worthless "gift"(many times, they are expensive). I'm not talk about everything in the patch, some changes is realy good(example: mobile depot) |
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