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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2913
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:10:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:Does this include using out of Eve websites to scam and haras people in game ? Like Goonswarm does ? And literally hundreds of other websites. Good luck getting that one signed off. Your leaders blog will be gone too.
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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2913
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:12:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:you don't know that he wasn't unlike erotic1 he has not made any public statement. And again E1 got what he wanted the guy snapped said some very reprehensible things , but circumstances mean he should not receive the same level of punishment as E1 So to be clear, you're saying that racism and death threats are OK under some circumstances? Especially when someone got your internet space pixels. I disagree, there is NEVER a reason for that.
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Big Lynx
The Gun Runners Space Warriors
339
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:15:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:General Lemming wrote:Does this include using out of Eve websites to scam and haras people in game ? Like Goonswarm does ? And literally hundreds of other websites. Good luck getting that one signed off. Your leaders blog will be gone too.
You are so far away from the point. Slowly I begin to believe that the creepy voice of Ero has manipulated more ppl than I thought. |

Auraka Sith
JPG Industries
3
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:17:00 -
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Quick question before my real post... . why do some character portraits have a RED - or BLUE + in the top right corner?
Ok onto the post...
By page 26 I had to skip to the end, so sorry if this has been posted... But what I don't understand is, how in the world do people not understand where the line was crossed?
A very quick search found that in June 2012 there were over 2.5 billion people connected to the Internet.
So how is people have not realised that posting a voice recording of someone experiencing a mental breakdown for billions to listen too (note: The Internet is FOREVER); instead of leaving the knowledge / details of the breakdown private to those in the voice channel at the time it happened?
Regardless of the this persons statements that they have moved on and hold no ill will; reality is the voice channel recording is out there forever; and it will impact this persons future negatively, it will impact their partner, their family, their friends.
So regardless oh how greedy and foolish this person was to put themselves in the position, limits where reached and breached. Its the actions which follow that is at the heart of the issue of 'Real Life Harassment', not would led there.....
Kind Regards
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
517
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:17:00 -
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General Lemming wrote:Does this include using out of Eve websites to scam and haras people in game ? Like Goonswarm does ?
Did you actually read the OP or are you just throwing words around? |

Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
98
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:18:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I'm already doing 1,2,3 and either 6 or 7. The reason it's either 6 or 7 is that I dont; perform any task I think would be bannable anyway. I don't ransom for songs or anything like that. Believe it or not, I care about the game as a whole, not just specifically the parts that I play.
I really don't mean to be critical here - just trying to understand. Why are you doing 1? It seems rather pointless and counterproductive.
Lucas Kell wrote:It even to cover the other side too. One "victim" might get his petition ignore while another sees the banhammer drop. Why should they be treated different if the circumstance are the same just because a GM is adhering to a rule that has no boundaries?
Do you have an evidence that these rules are going to be applied inconsistently? I've not seen any.
Lucas Kell wrote:Why do you think it's so hard for CCP just to make a ruling though? Why do you want a massive grey area where people might get banned for stepping on a line that is arbitrarily chosen at the point the GM receive the petition? It's not even about which way they go with the ruling, whatever they choose I'm behind 100%, but from my point of view, they have to choose something. It's unfair not to, to both "victims" and perpetrators.
I don't think it's hard for them to produce something that 99% of the playerbase can interpret perfectly well and in fact I believe that they already have. It seems that there's a tiny minority of folks who can't seem to ge their head around it.
Why can't CCP write a definitive set of rules that leave every situation unambiguous? To do so would require something in such extremis that the player base would never except it. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |

Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
98
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:20:00 -
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Auraka Sith wrote:Quick question before my real post... . why do some character portraits have a RED - or BLUE + in the top right corner?
Those indicate what standing the character posting has for you, your corp, your alliance etc
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Big Lynx
The Gun Runners Space Warriors
341
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:22:00 -
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Auraka Sith wrote: But what I don't understand is, how in the world do people not understand where the line was crossed?
mysteries in the dark... |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2913
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:22:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:General Lemming wrote:Does this include using out of Eve websites to scam and haras people in game ? Like Goonswarm does ? And literally hundreds of other websites. Good luck getting that one signed off. Your leaders blog will be gone too. You are so far away from the point. Slowly I begin to believe that the creepy voice of Ero has manipulated more people than I thought. What? I'm far away from the point by saying the rules shouldn't extend to scam websites? Or are you talking at that guy and quoting me? The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2915
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:29:00 -
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Ssieth wrote:I really don't mean to be critical here - just trying to understand. Why are you doing 1? It seems rather pointless and counterproductive. ***** and giggles. I generally don't just shut up because a bunch of people disagree with me. I have freedom of speech, and until CCP strip that from me forcefully I'll continue to exercise my rights.
Ssieth wrote:Do you have an evidence that these rules are going to be applied inconsistently? I've not seen any. Different people have different levels at which they would consider something as harassment, and that's evidenced in these threads. It's even evident from CCP, since this issue occurred months ago and they responded then too and nothing was done. So with different people having different definitions of harassment, it's wishful thinking at best to think that the rules will be applied in the same way every time.
Ssieth wrote:I don't think it's hard for them to produce something that 99% of the playerbase can interpret perfectly well and in fact I believe that they already have. It seems that there's a tiny minority of folks who can't seem to ge their head around it.
Why can't CCP write a definitive set of rules that leave every situation unambiguous? To do so would require something in such extremis that the player base would never except it. OK, so it's clear to you right?
Are songs allowed as ransoms? How many songs are allowed? How many are too many?
These are very very simple questions, so if the rules are easy to interpret, you should have no problem answering those, and 99% of the playerbase should agree with your response, right?
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
3408
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:29:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Thus the statement from CCP is deliberately vague: the people who are clearly "over the line" know they're over the line and expect punishment, the people who are clearly "inside the line" know they're inside and are safe from punishment, while the people in the grey area will either retreat to safety or double down. Once that happens, the enforcers can prune off the people who doubled-down because they're clearly evil, rotten apples and the community is obviously better off without them around.
CCP, like the renowned Belgian philosophers Vroomfondel and Majikthise, insists upon "rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty". As one of the GMs noted to me, "it's a problem of demarcation, but if we get it right, we'll be on the gravy train for life." Like any honest politician, "My door is always open, and my hand is always out" |

Big Lynx
The Gun Runners Space Warriors
343
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:33:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Are songs allowed as ransoms? How many songs are allowed? How many are too many?
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Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
99
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:36:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:***** and giggles.
Fair enough - if you're not actually seeking anything meaningful here I thnk further interaction with you is consequently equally meaningless. Thanks for the clarification. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |

Big Lynx
The Gun Runners Space Warriors
343
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:38:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:***** and giggles. I generally don't just shut up because a bunch of people disagree with me. I have freedom of trolling, and until CCP strip that from me forcefully I'll continue to exercise my rights.
corrected that for you |

Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2919
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:42:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Are songs allowed as ransoms? How many songs are allowed? How many are too many?  Seems like a simple question to me. Even CCP have been ransomed for a song, is that practice now outlawed?
Ssieth wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:***** and giggles. Fair enough - if you're not actually seeking anything meaningful here I thnk further interaction with you is consequently equally meaningless. Thanks for the clarification. And in doing so you avoid answering the question about the rules you state are so easy to understand. I think that pretty much says everything.
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1208
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:47:00 -
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Has Sokhar been banned too? Didn't he issue real life threats and menaces in the bonus room, didn't he call people the N-word.
I can understand why Erotica has been banned but what Sokhar did was just as bad, can anyone clarify if he has been banned as well. If so then justice has been done fairly, if not then justice is clearly one sided in this affair. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Darkopus
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:48:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Are songs allowed as ransoms? How many songs are allowed? How many are too many?  Seems like a simple question to me. Even CCP have been ransomed for a song, is that practice now outlawed? Ssieth wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:***** and giggles. Fair enough - if you're not actually seeking anything meaningful here I thnk further interaction with you is consequently equally meaningless. Thanks for the clarification. And in doing so you avoid answering the question about the rules you state are so easy to understand. I think that pretty much says everything.
I am glad I trained Advanced Tear Harvesting to 5. So many tears to collect today and not enough time.................. |

Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
100
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:48:00 -
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Ssieth wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:***** and giggles. Fair enough - if you're not actually seeking anything meaningful here I thnk further interaction with you is consequently equally meaningless. Thanks for the clarification. And in doing so you avoid answering the question about the rules you state are so easy to understand. I think that pretty much says everything. [/quote]
Ah - the classic troll move - your answers are irrelevant to me but I want them anyway or I will declare your view to be invalid 
So - one less time then, just 'cause...
Lucas Kell wrote:Are songs allowed as ransoms? How many songs are allowed? How many are too many?
Here's my interpretation:
Yes songs are allowed as ransoms. You're allowed as many as are sensible under the circumstances. See the above.
Presuming you don't feel you can exercise good judgement on the above then you can stay clear of asking for songs as ransoms. Seriously - that shouldn't be too much of a impingement on your life in EVE. If it is then you're probably playing the wrong game. There's probably something karaoke themed out there for you. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |

Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
100
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:50:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Has Sokhar been banned too? Didn't he issue real life threats and menaces in the bonus room, didn't he call people the N-word.
I can understand why Erotica has been banned but what Sokhar did was just as bad, can anyone clarify if he has been banned as well. If so then justice has been done fairly, if not then justice is clearly one sided in this affair.
The short answer is we don't know and CCP won't tell us. They don't discuss individual cases. Noone here knows, for sure, that E1 has been banned either - it's all inference. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
517
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:51:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Has Sokhar been banned too?
CCP usually doesn't reveal if a player has been banned, why don't you ask Sokhar himself?
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1208
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:56:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Has Sokhar been banned too? CCP usually doesn't reveal if a player has been banned, why don't you ask Sokhar himself?
Because he might call me the N-word! Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |

Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
59
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:57:00 -
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Ssieth wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Has Sokhar been banned too? Didn't he issue real life threats and menaces in the bonus room, didn't he call people the N-word.
I can understand why Erotica has been banned but what Sokhar did was just as bad, can anyone clarify if he has been banned as well. If so then justice has been done fairly, if not then justice is clearly one sided in this affair. The short answer is we don't know and CCP won't tell us. They don't discuss individual cases. Noone here knows, for sure, that E1 has been banned either - it's all inference.
Pretty much this ^^
We wont know until the involved parties confirm what account actions if any were taken. Due to privacy policies CCP wont discuss individual account actions with the public.
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
517
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:00:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Has Sokhar been banned too? CCP usually doesn't reveal if a player has been banned, why don't you ask Sokhar himself? Because he might call me the N-word!
Then you file a petition and he's done for. What is the problem? |

Kaivar Lancer
Biological Mechanical Unlimited
484
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:03:00 -
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Well, this is bollocks. Erotica1 was banned?
Thank you for turning Eve into SWTOR, Ripard.
RIP the sandbox. |

Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
100
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:06:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Well, this is bollocks. Erotica1 was banned?
Thank you for turning Eve into SWTOR, Ripard.
RIP the sandbox.
This is the funniest response I've read all day. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |

Shahrokh Dariush
Conspicuous Trading Company
3
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:09:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Well, this is bollocks. Erotica1 was banned?
Thank you for turning Eve into SWTOR, Ripard.
RIP the sandbox.
*Mandatory* Can I have your stuff? |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
518
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:10:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Well, this is bollocks. Erotica1 was banned?
Thank you for turning Eve into SWTOR, Ripard.
RIP the sandbox.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out! |

Kaivar Lancer
Biological Mechanical Unlimited
485
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:14:00 -
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Shahrokh Dariush wrote:
*Mandatory* Can I have your stuff?
My feelings are hurt. Post again and I'll report you to CCP for harassment. And torture! |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
518
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:15:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Shahrokh Dariush wrote:
*Mandatory* Can I have your stuff?
My feelings are hurt. Post again and I'll report you to CCP for harassment. And torture!
Go ahead. |

Genseric Tollaris
The Scope Gallente Federation
196
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Posted - 2014.03.29 12:16:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Well, this is bollocks. Erotica1 was banned?
Thank you for turning Eve into SWTOR, Ripard.
RIP the sandbox.
Eve is dead. |
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