OK so if i understand the patch note, I would not be able to fit MMJD on my "NAGA" that have poor tracking against close combat and nothing to counter against scram/web (no drone bay), It's not like "Naga" have either OP tank mod. So why not extend it to attack BC.

Because they have speed, damage projection and are natural kiters themselves.

Speed do nothing against webfiber, "Naga" is a dead ship if he don't warp out after webbed even a simple web drone can do the job. Vulture now are going to be a beast he can kill webfiber with drone and even escape with MMJD have better shield resist, more tracking, Command ship are not the most needed compare to attack battle cruiser

I liked the MJD, however my problem with it as most of eve currently is lack of tactical choice, leading to cookie cutter builds for every ship. It would be nice to see some variables with the MJD as an example;

Increase the cooldown and spool-up for increased range, decrease for shorter ranges. This could be set similar to obit range.

Give it some scripts that alter its use. A script to give a massive speed boost for a short burst for example, Or another script that blooms the Mass of the ship making it better at bumping larger ships.

Im only happy that Elite Dangerous will be deployed this year... Time to forget bout Eve I guess.
CCPs idiotic ideas like this one ruin game enterly. For them it's just Medium Micro Jump Drive, but for people who hunt in lowsec it will be disaster.
First people with 5 Stabs on ships, now this sh*t.
I'll think very hard if to pay subs for my 3 accounts or not next time.

CCP you are going in wrong direction for a long time. We need a real expanssion of a scale of Apocrypha not another "let's make this game more idiot friendly" one.

i would have prefered it on my attack battlecruiser instead of on the combat battlecruiser

This game is starting to look more and more like a magic wizard MMO where you can teleport and cast spells.


CCP we dont need Teleporting ships. You are ruining this game.

Which part of this logic don't you get? It has the CAPABILITY to kite and engage targets from range, just because there's counters to it (mostly about how the pilot messed up) doesn't mean that's a valid reason to say it needs help. A CBC gets to choose nothing, it's too slow to choose to engage or avoid targets and it lacks projected dps to do anything about it. It has NOTHING going for it, that's why you just don't see them much.

At least TRY and use some sound logic, will ya.

Use your logic you too a Simple CBC can manage a simple frigate with web/scram, CBC have more tracking and have drone bay, lock time not bad, batter tank than Attack Battle Cruiser.
ABC have nothing to deal with it, lock time really slow, when a simple frigate with web/scram warp out near you you're dead, So i suppose that a ABC that cost 10X the price of a frigate have to be catch so easilly and have to look does thing turn around you until you die, So LOL.

One thing that's been on my mind, related to MJD, is... why is it that we can warp to some wreck or asteroid in space, but cannot just warp on a set distance in the direction we have aligned to? Why do we need special modules for that, why not make it just a built-in function for all ships (which would be also not immune to any kind of warp disruption)?

It would make combat more dynamic and fluent, making maneuvering a larger part of combat and also accessible to ships bigger than cruiser.

Much rage and hyperbole? I've never heard of you or your corp and I sincerely doubt anyone else would know you either. And even if you were from a known PVP corp, your argument still wouldn't hold true. Nobody blobs anyone just because they are from a certain corp.

Your understanding of competent brawling appears flawed, approach & F1 works only in very limited situations where the outcome was pretty much decided on the fitting screen. This is exactly the same as in easy kiting fights- press orbit and F1. However, most engagements require the same piloting skills: manual flying, target prioritising, module micromanagement (active tanking is much more prominent in brawling than kiting), knowing when to disengage and having the skills required to accomplish that.

I have a few thousand solo and small gang kills across my characters, and I've flown both kiting and brawling set ups across all the ship classes (well ok, never flown the only kiting bs) and I honestly can't agree with your "intelligence and skills" argument favouring kiting. They are simply different methods, each with their strengths and right times and places.

I don't see where is your problem here.
Yes we use good ships and good setups.
Yes we feel comfortable to fight in 1-2 Bills worth T3s and with 3-4 Bills worth implants in our heads on dayly basis.
Guy lost ~80m, we were risking ~6 Bills each ( It could be cyno ship, bait - you never know ).

Another thing man, semi good fitted Prophecy - 500 DPS at least + 300 DPS from gate guns. Try to fight that yourself you will see how close it is to die in fire in such conditions.

Then, try do all above in cloaky Loki I use.

With latest changes we are forced to use +3 True Sasha Warp scramblers or even two on ship because warp disruptors became obsolete.
Most people use stabs you see.
You think killing is an easy job?
Imagine that most of time we have to watch targets for long time before they do a mistake and Its not fun to waste 2 hours of waiting for guy who is stabbed to teeth in situation when cloak + MWD - a tactic old like Eve itself would save him from 99% of camps.
But cloak+ WMD requires a skill and a bit of nerves to do it right while stabs are foolproof.

Hisec? Are you serious? I thought we were discussing PVP.

I'm glad this module is coming for CBCs

Really really glad.

I'm going to use it to shove my harbinger up your Ishtars ass. Repeatedly.

The kiting setups have been a cancer on this game. You get to keep range and drop your drones, nothing can catch you and you get to sit back and announce to yourself that your a leet pvper for pounding slow ships with short engagement windows to death whilst somehow thinking this is a fair or equal fight. Yes yes I know there are no fair fights, this is Eve. But to paraphrase poorly some fights are fairer than others.

When we gate camp we do it with a boosted proteus at zero on the gate, this means that we can get hot dropped and you know have a fight. My corp runs with large numbers of scrams not points for a reason. And tbh if a battlecruiser jumps into a gate that we are on in low sec I would say it is killed almost 100% of the time, cloak or stabs do not help.

So roll on the MJD. I don't see it as a get out of jail free card, I see it as a weapon to be used to close the range, engage scram and club you to death.

Perhaps the people that like to kite can go look for each other and kite each other to boredom. Roll on Kronos, back to BS and BC fleets.

Nope. They have not been. Kiting is one of the 2 only ways LEFT in game that a group can engage large superior numbers of enemies. The other is massive logistic !@#!@##!..


Anyone that use any other way of combat is relyign on numeric superiority, or enemy stupidity to not lose.


The constant nerfing of everything like kitign is the cancer on this game, that pushes more and more into a BLOB only game.

Contrary to the myth, msot of the kiters are much more likely to stay and fight than to run away. In fact peopel use kitign ships sothey can STAY and FIGHT, not run away as soon as more targets appear in local.

So the cowards are not the kitters, its EXACLTY the other way around.

Hooray!

Another magical get out of jail free card for the risk-adverse carebear from our friends at CCP!

Because would make interceptors and any fast ships as well as long range ships useless.

Nope. They have not been. Kiting is one of the 2 only ways LEFT in game that a group can engage large superior numbers of enemies. The other is massive logistic !@#!@##!..


Anyone that use any other way of combat is relyign on numeric superiority, or enemy stupidity to not lose.


The constant nerfing of everything like kitign is the cancer on this game, that pushes more and more into a BLOB only game.

Contrary to the myth, msot of the kiters are much more likely to stay and fight than to run away. In fact peopel use kitign ships sothey can STAY and FIGHT, not run away as soon as more targets appear in local.

So the cowards are not the kitters, its EXACLTY the other way around.