As an Ishtar pilot myself, the change doesn't really affect me much. But I always had a problem with them doing BS level damage across the board since the very beginning. I always felt it wast unfair.

To me the solution has always been simple and we now have something of a precedent with the Gurista ships and their role bonus applying only to specific size drones. Simply make the bonus on the Ishtar apply only to light and medium drones and give it a drone bandwidth to match that.

The constant tweaking of ships etc to make them all pretty much equal should be carried to its logical conclusion by CCP.

One ship type of each class, no ship allowed to have even a slight inbuilt advantage over another, just different skins so folk can feel that their ship is 'different' to the others.

Further to this, each ship class should only be allowed to fight ships of the same class in equal number fights.

Finally, Eve Online should be renamed as - Vanilla Online.

Seriously. This seems to be where things are headed. It's sad.

CCP why don't you spend more time to create balance by releasing new ships more than nerfing existing one?

Because instead of having 1 OP ship and 7 lesser ships, you'd then have 1 OP, 1 okay and 7 "why do you even undock?" ships.

Power creep is not a good idea.

I don't like the idea of an 8/4/7 Tempest because the Typhoon has to be armor tanked and the Maelstrom has to be shield tanked. You would force the Tempest into armor which takes away the versatility that the Minmatar are known for. At least for battleship class ships

No.. power creep is good because keep peopel interested and make unsubscribed come back.

Well, lets just say as a mission runner the changes to the Gurista ships were just a really worthless thing to do! I sold all the Lvl 4 mission rattlers and the Gila is almost completely worthless after having its drone utility removed

I'm sorry but you must be terrible.

1500+ DPS out my rattlesnake I use in missions. I have a PvP fit knocking on for nearly 1200 DPS with nearly a quarter MILLION EHP.

900+ DPS out of a gila.


Yeah, they're simple awful cannot see a use for them at all........


Also, WTF does that have to do with this thread?

No it not. They are just getting rid of the FOTM blanace passes.

When you get rid of 'flavour of the month' enough times, you end up with, Vanilla Online

The Rattler sucks completely now.

When you get rid of 'flavour of the month' enough times, you end up with, Vanilla Online

Get out.

Power creep is a terrible thing.

No its not.. and EVERYONE that studied game design theory knows that. On the long run it is the most easily available tool to keep peopel interested in the game. That has been expressed clearly on all tradign card games, the ones that decided to avoid power creep ALL died, not a single exception. The ones that learned how to manage it survived and gained more players.

psychology is more important in game design than math.

lol... Troll much... I quoted the response to anothers post. Read much? Anyhow... I think you are just so awesome :) Is that 1500 with or without Geckos? Oh and by the way... I used the rattler not as an afk boat, but as a utility to rep noobs while they learned the missions. 2nd... The Rattler sucks completely now. A regular Domi is way better than a dual faction ship. Trollollol back at ya!

No its not.. and EVERYONE that studied game design theory knows that. On the long run it is the most easily available tool to keep peopel interested in the game. That has been expressed clearly on all tradign card games, the ones that decided to avoid power creep ALL died, not a single exception. The ones that learned how to manage it survived and gained more players.

psychology is more important in game design than math.

Geckos brings you to 1700, bright eyes.

1500 is applicable DPS.

Game theory as taught by who, acti-blizzard? Get out, you know nothing.

No its not.. and EVERYONE that studied game design theory knows that. On the long run it is the most easily available tool to keep peopel interested in the game. That has been expressed clearly on all tradign card games, the ones that decided to avoid power creep ALL died, not a single exception. The ones that learned how to manage it survived and gained more players.

psychology is more important in game design than math.

Augmented Ogres are higher again.

EVE isn't a trading card game.

Having taken my fair share of game theory, I have to agree with you.

I have never heard of power creep being a good thing for anyone who isn't trying to make their players run the loot treadmill.

Which, as it turns out, people hate.

Are you even capable of making an argument that isn't built on hyperbole? Seriously.

Oh, and by the way. You want to know what Vanilla Online really is? Where one freaking ship is so much better than every other one in it's class, that there isn't any point in using anything else.

Game balance = variety of choices. It's the exact opposite of what fools like you think.