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kieron

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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:38:00 -
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The Dragon code branch has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have an issue after the deployment, please check the Known Issues page to see if the Dev Team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes page. The patch can be downloaded from the this URL for manual client patching.
Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or off-topic posts will be removed.
The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status.
A recap of the deployment issues will be coming in the near future.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Mitten
Caldari Hellbound Saints
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:40:00 -
[2]
text on the "Show Introduction Movie" button is a bit oversized or perhaps just not centered.
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aquontium
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:40:00 -
[3]
You're back! We love you.
Hope you can get some sleep - it's good to have the red screen taking away all my attempts at work today.
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Jin Steele
Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:41:00 -
[4]
just wondering, i have the sisi test build on my client now, from the autopatcher. sharkbait said that this was ok for now, but i see that the patch on the site is 15.4 mb, the AP is the 18.4mb test patch. currently i am in game with that, but will i need to redownload the client or is this fine?
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JrLUK
Caldari THE SHADOWS ASSASSINS
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:42:00 -
[5]
Good to see you back.. hope its not been to mind boggling! 
sometimesitsbetternottostickbitsofeachotherineachotherforeachother.
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SlackerOGF
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:42:00 -
[6]
The patch erased my overview settings.
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E'Veel P'Tiga
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:42:00 -
[7]
DL now
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:42:00 -
[8]
Originally by: kieron The Dragon code branch has been deployed and Tranquility has returned to service. If you have an issue after the deployment, please check the Known Issues page to see if the Dev Team is already aware of it and submit a bug report. If you are unsure of what has been changed in this patch, please take a look at the Patch Notes page. The patch can be downloaded from the this URL for manual client patching.
Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or off-topic posts will be removed.
The Dev Team will be monitoring this thread throughout the next few days to keep abreast of the patch deployment and status.
A recap of the deployment issues will be coming in the near future.
Oh sorry so we can't tell you how lousy a patch deployement this was yet again ?
I thought most problems were to arise because you were unable to replicate the game environment for testing ? ie impossible to test the patch before 27,000 users all jumped on it...
Obviously something else much more basic was at hand... since it took no players online whatsoever to create issues that delayed you for a good 12 hours... 
The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :) |

Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:44:00 -
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Patch issues are to be placed here.
Well, got an issue.
Try to buy an item from the market and look at the 'buy' screen.....
And this was on the testserver as well.
I hope it's just me....
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:45:00 -
[10]
I have a question. I'm not angry, this is just an inquiry:
What critical error occurred that caused the servers to be down an extra 7 hours? ___________________________ |
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tas Devil Oh sorry so we can't tell you how lousy a patch deployement this was yet again ?
I thought most problems were to arise because you were unable to replicate the game environment for testing ? ie impossible to test the patch before 27,000 users all jumped on it...
Obviously something else much more basic was at hand... since it took no players online whatsoever to create issues that delayed you for a good 12 hours... 
The Devs have been working on this deployment for over 16 hours, I think we are fully aware of how things went, even moreso than you are.
As for the issues, here's a C&P of an earlier analogy I made about the server problem.
Originally by: kieron For those that are saying this extended deployment time is the result of incomplete testing, the server issue we are trying to resolve is only occurring on Tranquility. We cannot duplicate it on the internal test servers, or Singularity, the external test server.
I would like to make this clear to a number of players. Due to the differences between Tranquility, Singularity and Chaos, not all the code migrates between the three flawlessly.
A poor analogy, but an analogy, nonetheless. Say you have a motor (code) you know works in your car (Chaos, internal test server). Move it over to a buddy's car (Singularity, external test server) and it works there, too. Put it in a different friend's truck (Tranquility) with a fuel system (server start-up code) that's supposed to be compatible, but it's just not working. The fuel system floods the motor and kills it before the motor starts.
I hope this gives some insight into what the team is trying to resolve.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Amber Coldheart
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:46:00 -
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Downloaded manually (as in from the "EVE patches" menu on the left), and during patching got a CRC error on a .stuff file. Redownloading client *sigh*
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aquontium
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:47:00 -
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hit reply button by accident - if you look at character info for a NPC character it displayes Unititled 1-8 as roles! 
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Lunabi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lunabi on 23/08/2006 02:50:02 Edited by: Lunabi on 23/08/2006 02:49:47 After the server crash this morning, right before the patch downtime, my ship disappeared and is still missing after the patch.
The cargo of my ship was open and i was able to remove the items from my ship. Also i was able to remove the fitting from my ship but it still remained invisible. Then i boarded my Brutix and now and my loot cruiser total disappeared  
Oh and before it forget, all my overview settings got deleted 
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Mchart
Caldari The Cursed Killers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:47:00 -
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I used the patch that the AP gave me, which was the test server build. Could we get a testserver 4557->normal 4557? Because with the testserver patch I have no more splash screen, and the buttons are square.
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Zyna
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:47:00 -
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So....does this mean that petitions are going to take an extra month to be answered??? Because I just got over the mandatory 1 month wait period....do I have to wait another 
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hangnoose
Caldari Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:48:00 -
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On re packaged items, the box surrounding how much you have extends below down into the name.
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:48:00 -
[18]
Issue: Unable to set a new default warp to distance. Easily reproduceable on both clients.
Pain in the arse for NPCing with 100KM BMs
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ElweSingollo
Starlancers Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:50:00 -
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as already said Overview settings seem to have been scrubbed also I used the autopatcher on my tranquility build however on checking the cache folder the patch file it dl'd was named evepatch3913-4557_test and came in at 18.3mb can I clarify that this is the correct patch. My client runs fine on it but don't want to run into problems down the road if I am running with an incorrect build, to reiterate this was the patch the autodownloader gave me for my TQ build.
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:50:00 -
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Well as always overview settings were completely reset after this patch... how usefull... Can't you store overview settings in the client ? and have it saved like Bookmarks are saved or buddy folders etc ?
The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :) |
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Blind Man
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:52:00 -
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in escrow, for a bpc, in the original column, it says 'yes' as if the bpc were a bpo. many escrow scams to follow
KilROCK's Forum Assistant
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Riggwelter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:53:00 -
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1) Overview settings returned to default
2) Pre patch agent offers are no longer viewable or acceptable but still feature in Jounral.
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Julius DarkWings
Gallente The Circle of Rock
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:53:00 -
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Before donwloading the patch 4557 I could pull up the log on screen and see how many people where playing.
After downloading the patch all I get is "Checking Staus..."
And the Unable to Connect error message.
In game Channel macrointel |

Melchior Drognah
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:53:00 -
[24]
When the server crashed last night. I was in the middle of docking. Now Im docked but my fully expanded hauler with craploads of t2 stuff has gone missing. no ship no gear nada. petitin filed aswell.
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Derran
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:54:00 -
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Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
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FrontC
Caldari The Wildcards
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:54:00 -
[26]
Good job getting the servers up.
Problem on buying from market, when you right click and "Buy This" the UI that comes up is all shifted to the left - leaving out key details (like total purchase price). |

Fredou
Gallente Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:56:00 -
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on escrow every BPC say: original YES
big bug here! ---
Don't forget to check my current Escrow!
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MrShooter
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:58:00 -
[28]
Everyone in NPC corps has 8 titles?
Linkage
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:58:00 -
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I want my overview settings back! Or at least a warning that they were going to be erased, so i could have manually saved the setup!
=================================== Above comments are my personal views, and do not represent my corporation or alliance, unless otherwise indicated |

Nahual
Gallente Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:58:00 -
[30]
the buttons are sexy tbh, and same with chat window heading 
But god damn the forums...reply 4 times?  -----------------------------------------------
FateCorp
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:59:00 -
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I just had a conversation with one of my corp mates who's a Gallente pilot.
Piccie
Please don't post pictures on the forums - link them instead - Serathu ([email protected]) ___________________________ |

Khargos
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
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Jinx Barker
Gallente Federal Bank
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:00:00 -
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Patch downloaded and installed 100%. Loged in and tested for a little while. So far so good.
Good Job CCP! Dragon looks good at this stage to me. And I like the UI improvements.
Oh, and if Kieron or Oveur read this, could you guys get a slice of skin from Valar, and send it over to my hangar? I been after his jovian DNA for a while, ever since RMR .
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Caerleus
Board of Twenty
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:02:00 -
[34]
Problems:
1: overview settings gone...gee thanks. 2: Agent offers not being able to be opened from journal. 3: Agent offer came back with error message when trying to speak to Agent in station via side panel.
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Gane Green
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:04:00 -
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I hope that this is due to part of the server not being up but in research the bpo's i have been working on has disappeared. I checked all the settings but i dont see any of them. they were supposed to be complete in 3 days from now. and ive checked the corp hanger they were sent from and they are not ther if more people are having this problem. please post about it. If its just not me then ill petetion
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Tas Devil on 23/08/2006 03:04:00
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :) |

Khargos
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tas Devil Edited by: Tas Devil on 23/08/2006 03:04:00
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
There is plenty reason to "whine" about this, they removed a whole blooming career! It needs to be replaced as soon as humainly possible.
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Alaris
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:06:00 -
[38]
Enter/Exit warp sounds are gone, Still get the disappearing ship/station/etc on undock randomly, text alignment problems in the fitting screen (max targetting for one), the list continues no doubt. Wonder how long all this will take to get fixed to at least half where we were before...
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Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:07:00 -
[39]
Issue, you can dock while generating a cyno leaving the Cyno open without needing fuel.
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Ginger Lynn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:09:00 -
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I love you CCP, somehow the game looks sexier :) And yeah, probably because little people on, my framerate has had a mighty increase from 28-33 to 38-45 O_O
And ov settings: It takes... not many minutes doing the basics, kk.
Long time to fix the patch: Please, dont beat on the ones that have been working since 7-8 till now, they know things been haywire I bet :)
*is in the happy place* 
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boterkoek
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:10:00 -
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I lost my hulk
Yesterday i was in a belt at around 12:00am EST and the server was acting quite slow when I got disconnected. I could not get connected so decided to call it a night knowing that the game would be updated. Now I have the update and I was placed back at the station without my hulk. Can someone please look into this for me?
Thanks boterkoek
PS. my alt sunchi lost his retreiver as well.
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Smog890
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:11:00 -
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*** so *** my character is in a system and that system is not loaded so I cant log in but everyone else can even my alt can but not my main character
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Sha'Uri Dark
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Julius DarkWings Before downloading the patch 4557 I could pull up the log on screen and see how many people where playing.
After downloading the patch all I get is "Checking Status..."
And the Unable to Connect error message.
I'm getting the same thing but I patched manually ----------------------------------------------------- As a Freelancer the thoughts and opinions contained within this post are my own. Don't like them feel free not to complain to me about them. |

DuckM4n Vo
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:12:00 -
[44]
Buttons are bigger and easier to read. Nice job!
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Schroni
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:12:00 -
[45]
overview settings gone, which kinda sucks but meh...
client seems to respond much faster and the graphical changes are nice, so all in all a good job... ---
SNIGG Forums my videos |

Capt Rob
Minmatar Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:13:00 -
[46]
well just got on and it looks ok, but i look at the selected item overview and i dont understand why it shows all the options and if there not revelent it just makes them lighter. why have them there at all when there not in use? seems to make clutter and is rather annoying
Deros is *** |

Aliennatives
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:13:00 -
[47]
Logged in and had a loyalty offer waiting, I cant show details and when I convo him, I get a dialogue about an unhandled exception on the server.
Bug? |

ZegTheBrick
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:14:00 -
[48]
I feel bad to be the first to say this, but here goes...
Someone decided that the UI improvement would mean jamming some more pixels worth of gap between the 2 lines of name of objects in hold/hanger (and maybe between objects themselves, I'm to tired to tell for sure), meaning yet more of the already crowded screen gets taken up by having to resize those windows to view the same data as previously. The same possibly goes for the market as well, I think I'm seeing less lines of orders at once, although that may be sleep deprivation again.
Clearly this is all reconsiled by ooo shiney round buttons (also taking up more space).
And through it all, the stack numbers still dont fit in thier little boxes in the corner of icons. Then again maybe leaving the font alone was a good idea judging by previous showing.
Rant/whine thing over.
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Derran
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tas Devil Edited by: Tas Devil on 23/08/2006 03:04:00
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
He did? Where? When?
The wound is still fresh because I had only just trained Gallente Industrial to 5 and now it was for nothing and who knows when this 'transition' is going to be complete. This isn't the first time I felt cheated over some major switchover and got stuck with totally wasted skill points. Over the course of 3 1/2 years,I just rolled with the punches but this is just getting really old.
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:16:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Tas Devil Edited by: Tas Devil on 23/08/2006 03:04:00
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
There is plenty reason to "whine" about this, they removed a whole blooming career! It needs to be replaced as soon as humainly possible.
LOL dig deeper fellow...
The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :) |
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Jarvis Drago
Caldari The Blood Cabal
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:22:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Jarvis Drago on 23/08/2006 03:25:10 There is currently a problem with the logs on station containers. The ADD logs are showing numbers as Arg_1, rather than the name of the item inserted. So far I've seen this problem with Condensed Scordite and Massive Scordite, which were showing 5 digit numbers instead of the names of the ore. The UNLOCK log entries seem to be fine.
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Tas Devil
JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:22:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Epsilon 1 Downloading patch. If the overview setups are reset ( i have 8 ) i'd be very ******* ****ed. 
They are ... CCp likes to surprise us with usefull changes every time...if its not a reset of overview its usually a font change...preferably selected by a blind man tripping on exctasy...
The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :) |

Leverton
Caldari Research Associates
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: FrontC Good job getting the servers up.
Problem on buying from market, when you right click and "Buy This" the UI that comes up is all shifted to the left - leaving out key details (like total purchase price).
I'm getting this problem too.
It is not certain that everything is uncertain |

Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:23:00 -
[54]
Here's a bug: EVE system chat notices are malformed. Ex:
EVE System > Channel Password cleared by {'name': u'BiONetworks'}.
Where it's showing what I'm assuming is the underlying data instead of condensing it to just the player's name. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |

rodgerd
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:24:00 -
[55]
Thanks for the hard work. Must have been a **** of a day.
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The Enslaver
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:25:00 -
[56]
On the up side; performance is nothing other than spectacular.
Nice work, CCP - its actually less laggy now than it was before the patch! --------
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Mirirar
Caldari Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:25:00 -
[57]
Quote:
If the overview setups are reset ( i have 8 ) i'd be very ******* ****ed.
You may want to put on some Enya and brew some Chamomile tea before you log in, then.
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Dessa DesPlains
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:26:00 -
[58]
When you try to warp to an object 150 KM away, you only have the approach button on the top of the overview. If you right click on the same object, you get the warp to option.
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E'Veel P'Tiga
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:26:00 -
[59]
In the overview the upside triangle icon doesnt show up for roids in belts. _______________
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:26:00 -
[60]
The Devs are aware of the issues that have been brought up in the thread and will work on a number of small fixes tomorrow. It was thought that getting TQ back, then working on the smaller issues was a better decision than keeping TQ down to get everything resolved.
Most of the Devs went home after a marathon, 18 hour session and most of them will be back in about 6-7 hours to work on the outstanding issues.
Once again, we apologize for the extended deployment time.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:27:00 -
[61]
Originally by: JC Anderson As mentioned, all BPO's on escrow are showing as BPC's and all BPC's as BPO's
When purchased however its another story.
Quoted for emphasis of importance ---------------
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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:28:00 -
[62]
Well it seems in your zeal to stop client manipulations you have taken away the ability to change the font by changing out the file. Thanks. Now I can't read anything. I can't change my resolution because I play on a 1400x1050 15" LCD, and the non-native resolution blurs everything even worse than if I use 1400x1050. This is quite insane. - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron. |

Julius DarkWings
The Circle of Rock
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:28:00 -
[63]
So anyone have any idea what to do when the log in page constantly comes up "Checking Status"
And you get the Unable to Connect Error.
Should I download the client again?
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Buterphly
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:28:00 -
[64]
Small bug: If you click on a billboard, no action buttons appear in the overview. You have to click-and-hold on it to read the news, target, approach, etc. Minor issues, but a FYI =)
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Xianthar
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:30:00 -
[65]
excellent work cleaning up the code, general performance increases are definately visible, gained 15fps+ in most situations. obvious that otehr sub systems got cleaned up as well.
you have ALOT of text issues, alignment, mis reading of variables, etc all minor fixes. i'm surprised you didn't go with unicode from the start considering what a multi national game this was planned to be.
ya'll must be kicking yourselves in the grundle for using all those ascii literals now they seemed so quick and easy at the time 
excellent work overall tho guys, good job!
-xian
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:31:00 -
[66]
- sorting factory slots by "NEXT FREE TIME" gives a completely wrong sort order. 10 < 2 < "Now".
- Blueprints on escrow have a huge problem: BPCs have "Yes" in the "ORIGINAL" column and BPOs have "No" there.
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allanvv
Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:31:00 -
[67]
What's the new "enable naturalpoint trackir head tracking" option under Camera in Graphics?
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Jacob Siven
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:32:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Jacob Siven on 23/08/2006 03:34:46 Erm I got a problem with my update. I waited till much later and finally got the patch> I autopatched and it made it all the way through to the resDungeons.stuff and said there was a bad CRC. So I followed the link, got the manual patch. Got the same thing, bad CRC on resDungeons.stuff. Now my client crashes before the login screen ever displays, right after the splash screen.
Do I need to uninstall and delete everything then do a complete reinstall all over and repatch? Anyone got a refrence for keeping things like IGB bookmarks/trusted sights and other things I might need?
I have yet to have a single issue with EvE on my comp and only 1 CTD that was not the server crashing. Running XP Home, completly updated, no recent software or hardware cahnges. Thanks to anyone that can help.
EDIT: No Idea how to make my corp showup, its NOPHEX PRISM, I dont even have an alt 
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Di Jiensai
Gallente Cygnus Alpha Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:33:00 -
[69]
Thank You ! I didnt set the one-week-skill before the patch because i trusted you to get it up on time, for me to login before my vacation, and you did it! <3 CCP
I also took a short trip in space, and it is awsome. i love the greyed out buttons on overview. But most important: It is LOTS faster on my old 1GHz pc. Very good work, thanks again.
I am happy 
--- The Story of the Big-Bad-Nos-Domi and the Brutix Selfproclaimed last instance on Rightousness Issues |

Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:33:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mirirar
Quote:
If the overview setups are reset ( i have 8 ) i'd be very ******* ****ed.
You may want to put on some Enya and brew some Chamomile tea before you log in, then.
/Fires up enya and prepares to install the patch 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Goliath Scorpion
Amarr The Buggers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:35:00 -
[71]
Loving the UI changes, everything looks so much smoother. Everything seems to be running quicker aswell, though that could be down to only a 5k or so people on.
Just to note, I almost bought some very expensive BPCs. Thankfully the sudden influx of very expensive "BPOs" on escrow made me smell a rat and check this thread. Bet some unlucky guy wasn't so cautious though.
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Gane Green
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:35:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Gane Green on 23/08/2006 03:36:45
Originally by: Gane Green I hope that this is due to part of the server not being up but in research the bpo's i have been working on has disappeared. I checked all the settings but i dont see any of them. they were supposed to be complete in 3 days from now. and ive checked the corp hanger they were sent from and they are not ther if more people are having this problem. please post about it. If its just not me then ill petetion
update everything came back after I sent another bpo into get it copied all is well and i am content.
That triggered it to fix itself or the hampsters of ccp is working twice as hard as usual
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Stizostedion Vitreum
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:35:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mirirar
Quote: Another market bug: under the Price History tab, the prices are all showing as zeroes.
CNR... works fine here.
Hmmmmm...now I'm getting numbers, but they're way lower than they should be (8M for a Dominix, for example). Maybe this will correct itself as time goes on.
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:37:00 -
[74]
Major Issue: A graphical error is making BPOs appear as BPCs and BPCs appear to be BPOs in escrows. This is a *visual* bug only. Do not purchase BPs via escrow unless you are sure of the contents. Players exploiting this bug will be banned.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Elassar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:38:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Totally agree. The whine will not be silenced.
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WredStorm
Gallente Storm Front Holdings
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:38:00 -
[76]
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but I don't feel like reading 3 pages of bug reports and gibberish in order to report a bug...
Try selling something from your hanger by right clicking on it and choosing Sell This. The resulting screen is missing all the information about price, etc. If you click on the Sell button the sale still processes at the current best price for you (as shown from the market screen).
WredStorm
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nophtosh
Minmatar Monopoly's Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:39:00 -
[77]
gosh darn it, it erased all my overview stuff
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Altaree
Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:40:00 -
[78]
1) Good night devs, Nice work! I love the changes. 2) Do I have my forum image yet? 3) Has my alliance's logo finally been uploaded after MONTHS of trying?
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Goncyn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:40:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Stizostedion Vitreum
Originally by: Mirirar
Quote: Another market bug: under the Price History tab, the prices are all showing as zeroes.
CNR... works fine here.
Hmmmmm...now I'm getting numbers, but they're way lower than they should be (8M for a Dominix, for example). Maybe this will correct itself as time goes on.
The prices are correct. They are just cut off. Look at something cheaper, like Megacyte. You will see the entire price. Prices >= 10M are cut off.
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GenBattle
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:42:00 -
[80]
Hmm i've got my own bug to report, since i got told my a mod to post it here...
I STILL can't get on the server. The MOTD box on the login screen says it's up and operational, but i can't get a status on the server and can't login.
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Xeron Silverblade
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:45:00 -
[81]
i have some problems with the market.
search works but he keeps on fetching data forever as it seems, same with items selected from the quickbar
browse list keeps empty. if i tongle "show only available" error pops up:
Message: 'MktServiceNotReady' Args: None
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Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:45:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ginger Lynn I love you CCP, somehow the game looks sexier :)
...
*is in the happy place* 
Best Name Ever
Thank you CCP - backed up settings folder first - will see what need to find...  __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now |

Lord Darcy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:46:00 -
[83]
good job ccp,
inspite of all the negatives
My loads are much faster
most of the game seems to react better
long run this will make my BIG BATTLE dreams closer
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Skid Pants
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:48:00 -
[84]
Coloumns in my overview are randomly jumping round when I jump stargates, come out of warp etc. They resize the widths themselves.
Also had a problem where if i had something selected on my overview then clicked again it would pop up the show info box without me double clicking
Thirdly, and most annoying. When I click show info on certain ships, claw and thron being 2 examples, the show info box is enormously wide. Others remain the same, dominix and phoon were ok.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:48:00 -
[85]
Dear CCP
Thank you for taking your time. I'd much rather have the server down a week than a rushed job.
Ignore the pathetic whiners. NOTHING you do will ever satisfy them, so don't waste effort trying. Just continue your efforts to make the game as superb as it can possibly be made.
In the days that follow, squash the bugs as you find them, and do so properly. Take as much time as needed to do a proper job of it.
As always, we appreciate being kept as informed as reasonably possible.
*snip* This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
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Nvali
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:53:00 -
[86]
Game freezes for about 45 seconds whenever anything pops (can, rat). Makes flying around unplayable. ---
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Aelbric II
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:54:00 -
[87]
Potential Combat Problem
Mission: Avenge a Fallen Comrade
Target: Possibly any, definitely the Habitat objective
Loadout:
Merlin Missile Launcher I (Bloodclaw) 125mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) 150mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) Civilian Shield Booster 1MN Afterburner I Shield Extender I Shield Extender I
Orbiting the target at 19km, the Bloodclaw missiles simply disappear after running about 15km. No hit or miss message. They simply...vanish. Close distance to 15km, every missile hits no problem. Took a couple minutes to notice it.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:56:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Alaris Enter/Exit warp sounds are gone
For me the enter/exit sounds are there, but the in-warp sound isn't. Also got one of the "can't rightclick in space anymore" bugs again.
Apart from that, the overall performance increase is, subjectively, really nice! :) Sleep well ;) --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:57:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Aelbric II Potential Combat Problem
Mission: Avenge a Fallen Comrade
Target: Possibly any, definitely the Habitat objective
Loadout:
Merlin Missile Launcher I (Bloodclaw) 125mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) 150mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) Civilian Shield Booster 1MN Afterburner I Shield Extender I Shield Extender I
Orbiting the target at 19km, the Bloodclaw missiles simply disappear after running about 15km. No hit or miss message. They simply...vanish. Close distance to 15km, every missile hits no problem. Took a couple minutes to notice it.
15km is about the range of the bloodclaw light missiles...
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Keeran
Caldari Orion's Nebula
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:58:00 -
[90]
I get no warp sound and no thruster sounds at all. Also ship handling seems to be a bit sluggish. |
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Cutie Chaser
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:01:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kenz Rider
Just cancelled, but unfortunetly have 30 days left. Who wants my stuff?
Me, seeing as no one else has said anything, you could fund my Typhoon :P
On a related note, while many screens apear to load faster, some of the text is smashed or squished together, or terribly off-centre on many windows. Only happened once or twice, fixed if i log out and abck in. |

Blind Man
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:01:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Blind Man on 23/08/2006 04:03:14 *snip*
Please don't discuss moderation on the forums but mail us instead - Serathu ([email protected])
KilROCK's Forum Assistant
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Verite Rendition
Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:05:00 -
[93]
Okay, here's one that's going to get anoying quickly: I can't alt-tab out of EVE. I can alt-tab in, but once I'm in no dice. I run two accounts, so this is a biggie. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic |

Iyanna Swift
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:08:00 -
[94]
I like the UI changes, the slightly smaller and sharper text works well on the screen my size, and the game seems to be plenty responsive.
I'll bet I won't notice many of the changes, but I'm glad to see it up and running again.
Hope the next updates are easier on the team though :p
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Jacob Etienne
Caldari Scorn.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:08:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Jacob Etienne on 23/08/2006 04:11:57 Have the customs NPCs been powered up?
It used to be that I could insta through empire, or run gates in my crow.. earlier I tried it and got popped instantly after uncloaking - is this an intended change, or a post-patch glitch?
The only other things I noticed were the stacked item counters overlapping to the bottom of the icons, and the overview wiping.
Update: Also, the roles screen is missing the tabs for the individual hangars, so i cant tell which section is which.
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darkst0rm
Caldari T.H.Y.L.A.N.C.I.N.E Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:11:00 -
[96]
Edited by: darkst0rm on 23/08/2006 04:14:07 Excessive traffic advisories?
excesive traffic advisories?
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Mujun Kross
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:12:00 -
[97]
Before the patch...
I had several different overview settings for all kinds of stuff but for discussion lets look at just two of them.
The first one showed all ship types but it filtered the list by people who were in my gang, corp, alliance, high and good standings. The second one showed all ship types but it filtered the list by people who were at war with me, horrible and bad standings.
I have tried setting this back up however whenever I make any changes on the Appearances tab for the overview the settings are not saved from one "setup" to the next.
EX:
I make a "setup" that shows war targets only...i then save this.
I make a setup that shows corp memebers only and then save this.
Because I made the one for corp members only after the war setup I only see corp members even when I switch back to the "war" target "setup" on my overview. If I modify the overview so that it correctly shows war targets and save it as war targets again when i switch back to the "corp setup" it still only shows war targets.
I have not tried deleting my cache folder as I dont want to loose my bm folders in game. I have tried makeing all of these overview setups and relogging the client but it still does not work.
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Mchart
Caldari The Cursed Killers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:13:00 -
[98]
Just to confirm - Is the removal of the splash screen intended, not, or am I the only one not seeing it?
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:13:00 -
[99]
When I sell an item the text in the sell box is mostly all missing except a little bit which is stacked on the left.
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:14:00 -
[100]
Disappearing overivew settings are known and will be looked at when the Devs return to the office in a couple hours.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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NightmareX
Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:15:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Mchart Just to confirm - Is the removal of the splash screen intended, not, or am I the only one not seeing it?
I see the splash screen, so it must be you then
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:17:00 -
[102]
I confirm, all bugs reported in this thread are in-game, except for the PC freeze for 45sec when you pop a can/rat.
Also, enterwarp/exitwarp sounds have been removed (HOPEFULLY) and there's only 1 sound when you enter full warp speed, it sounds like when a fighter jet breaks the sound barrier - i like it. FOR THE LOVE OF JEBUS WE DON'T NEED THE OLD WARP SOUNDS, LEAVE IT AS IT IS 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Fizgig
Elite Storm Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:18:00 -
[103]
I am trying to autopatch. I keep on getting an error saying that the patch was corupted. It gets to 5% than crashes. Sometimes it gets to 31%, if I am lucky.
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:19:00 -
[104]
The graphic for my warp disruptor is coming out of my ship but pointing in the opposite direction of my target... ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |

Mchart
Caldari The Cursed Killers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:19:00 -
[105]
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Mchart Just to confirm - Is the removal of the splash screen intended, not, or am I the only one not seeing it?
I see the splash screen, so it must be you then
Wonderful. TY for having the autopatcher use the test patch.
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Minnerss
Caldari RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:21:00 -
[106]
One thing that is happining to me is that I had 3 Buy orders expire today and none of them returned my escrow funds that were taken when I placed the buy orders.
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cheru
nemo nobis impune lacessit SynchronizerZ
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:23:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jacob Siven
... I autopatched and it made it all the way through to the resDungeons.stuff and said there was a bad CRC. So I followed the link, got the manual patch. Got the same thing, bad CRC on resDungeons.stuff. Now my client crashes before the login screen ever displays, right after the splash screen. ...
Got the exact same problem. After downloading the full build from the same page as the manual patch and running it I got an error message while it was checking integrity that the file was corrupt and I have to download it again ...
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:25:00 -
[108]
The code itself has indeed been optimized. Less lag when opening tables/windows, viewing info, dragging; also more fps in space and less caching (no real confirmation on that one yet)
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:32:00 -
[109]
Quote: The patch issues are already being discussed here and while we can appreciate that you are frustrated by the delays, we would be grateful if you could keep your replies constructive and in one place. Thank you!ugh
Great, so my own problem can get lost in 4+ pages of issues. Secondly, re-read my post. I told you exactly what was happening and what i did that started it.. How is that NOT constructive?
Third, im not frustraded by the delay, so much as the fact that your patch, has made my entire Computer, And not just the eve client, not useable. (before you ask, i have 2 computers, this one doesnt have eve)
Forth, its a pretty 'jerk' move to lock my thread just so you can get your "last word" in.
Anyway, here is my problem.. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=382561
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RR Caz
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:32:00 -
[110]
Like Keeran above, I lost my warp sounds.
thanks
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Jacob Siven
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:33:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Jacob Siven Edited by: Jacob Siven on 23/08/2006 03:34:46 Erm I got a problem with my update. I waited till much later and finally got the patch> I autopatched and it made it all the way through to the resDungeons.stuff and said there was a bad CRC. So I followed the link, got the manual patch. Got the same thing, bad CRC on resDungeons.stuff. Now my client crashes before the login screen ever displays, right after the splash screen.
Do I need to uninstall and delete everything then do a complete reinstall all over and repatch? Anyone got a refrence for keeping things like IGB bookmarks/trusted sights and other things I might need?
I have yet to have a single issue with EvE on my comp and only 1 CTD that was not the server crashing. Running XP Home, completly updated, no recent software or hardware cahnges. Thanks to anyone that can help.
EDIT: No Idea how to make my corp showup, its NOPHEX PRISM, I dont even have an alt 
Update: I got a new copy of the build and the autopatch worked, must have been my download of the patch that got borked. Thanks anyway.
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Kithicus
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:37:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Epsilon 1
Originally by: Mirirar
Quote:
If the overview setups are reset ( i have 8 ) i'd be very ******* ****ed.
You may want to put on some Enya and brew some Chamomile tea before you log in, then.
/Fires up enya and prepares to install the patch 
I dont know exactly how to do it, but ever since my first week playing I have had 2 overview settings saved. Since then all my overview saves are listed at the very top of the right click menu, but my first ones are under a drop down menu on the "Load Default" option. One is my mining setup and the other is the default. After this patch my normal ones have been wiped (along with everyone elses) but those 2 other ones are still there.
As I said, I have no clue how I made them, but I'm assuming they are either stored client side or in some other serverside database that isnt wiped. So if you can figure out how to move your saves there, then you shouldnt have anymore post patch overview wipes.
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Zlake
Lynx Frontier Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:40:00 -
[113]
Lost a BPO that was having a bit of PE research done on it. Petition filed.....we'll see 
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Breaka
The first genesis Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:45:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Julius DarkWings Before donwloading the patch 4557 I could pull up the log on screen and see how many people where playing.
After downloading the patch all I get is "Checking Staus..."
And the Unable to Connect error message.
Same here except mine says "Status : Unknown" then I cannot connect.
I have Windows XP so that's not the problem. Also, before downloading the patch I could see 14k peeps online then used the login screen downloader to download/apply the patch...now nothing.
Myriad Alliance is recruiting! Contact Breaka or Percival Diddly for info or join channel Myriad in-game. |

Skid Pants
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:47:00 -
[115]
Noooooooooooooooooooo
I beg you, please please with cherries on-top, remove the corp emblems from drones!!

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Bohoba
Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:48:00 -
[116]
windows 2000 sp2 and XP sp2 only almost sounds like your trying in an unsupported OS ?
or check your graphic card and support
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish Edited by: Sylaera Nightwish on 23/08/2006 04:43:14 *snip*
I start eve. Before it even gets to the login screen, it reboots the computer. Windows then gets into a rebooting loop. Before it resets it displays that my video card is what caused the error. Since it was working fine before, CCP did something to screw up the drivers. I checked nVidia for any new drivers, and there are none. (i have the latest)
The only way i can get out of the rebooting loop is to catch it and boot it in safe mode, then reboot it (even then it will sometimes still go back into a rebooting loop). But I have tried this a couple times and tried going back into eve, and it just starts the cycle over again.. Looks like im not playing till they fix it.
Get Into the Game it makes it fun for all |

Shaft Rat
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:52:00 -
[117]
I attempted to applt the patch and got a message that I would have to reinstall the game. So I downloaded the client again and when I tried to install it Iwas told that my installer was corupted. I tried to file a petition but got a oops something bad happened message. what the hell is going on, I want back in the game.
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Pride NL
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:52:00 -
[118]
Also here the patch download made my client go invalid on cosmos.stuff. This is definitly an autopatch error! (tried twice).
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Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:53:00 -
[119]
I thought it was only Win2k sp2. It said nothing abotu Xp Sp2. If that is the case, then i guess i have to cancel my account because i cant get Sp2 for xp.
Originally by: Bohoba windows 2000 sp2 and XP sp2 only almost sounds like your trying in an unsupported OS ?
or check your graphic card and support
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish Edited by: Sylaera Nightwish on 23/08/2006 04:43:14
Quote: The patch issues are already being discussed here and while we can appreciate that you are frustrated by the delays, we would be grateful if you could keep your replies constructive and in one place. Thank you!ugh
Great, so my own problem can get lost in 4+ pages of issues. Secondly, re-read my post. I told you exactly what was happening and what i did that started it.. How is that NOT constructive?
Third, im not frustraded by the delay, so much as the fact that your patch, has made my entire Computer, And not just the eve client, not useable. (before you ask, i have 2 computers, this one doesnt have eve)
Forth, its a pretty 'jerk' move to lock my thread just so you can get your "last word" in.
Anyway, here is my problem..... yet again.
I start eve. Before it even gets to the login screen, it reboots the computer. Windows then gets into a rebooting loop. Before it resets it displays that my video card is what caused the error. Since it was working fine before, CCP did something to screw up the drivers. I checked nVidia for any new drivers, and there are none. (i have the latest)
The only way i can get out of the rebooting loop is to catch it and boot it in safe mode, then reboot it (even then it will sometimes still go back into a rebooting loop). But I have tried this a couple times and tried going back into eve, and it just starts the cycle over again.. Looks like im not playing till they fix it.
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Gerome Doutrande
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:04:00 -
[120]
What's the timeframe for having courier agents give mainly non-combat missions again?
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Mervent
Caldari RONA Deepspace Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:06:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande What's the timeframe for having courier agents give mainly non-combat missions again?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=367
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Barbicane
The Gun Club
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:16:00 -
[122]
Originally by: "from the patch notes" Office lists in stations are now ordered alphabetically
No, they are not.
(not that it's very important. fix the other bugs first, pls )
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Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:16:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Weps on 23/08/2006 05:18:30
Mission 'bugs':
doing the lvl4's without any bugs so far (good job there!)
but... I warp out, am in warp and even reach the station, while still being shot at!!
'long' after getting into warp still being hit
arriving at station, still being hit..... (note the shrapnel)
Judging from the number of enemies in this mission, there still is something not quite right with at least this mission.
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Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:17:00 -
[124]
Awww you cha nged the character sheet again? It looks rubbish tbh.
For the state for the state for the state |

Kaladr
Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:21:00 -
[125]
Tash-Murkon market is borked.
Message: 'MktServiceNotReady' Args: None
and order lists in the market browser don't load.
---- EVE-Central.com - Cross-region market view and trade finder |

Wrayeth
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:22:00 -
[126]
I just backed up my settings folder and my prefs.ini file, but I think I'll wait to download and install the patch until tomorrow anyway. That way, I hopefully won't have to do any tweaking of my game files to keep my overview settings.
In any case, CCP, thank you for your hard work. Sometimes stuff just doesn't work the way it's supposed to, and you guys have to take the brunt of the abuse from disgruntled forum *****s even though there was no way you could have foreseen the problem. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Gerome Doutrande
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:22:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Mervent
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande What's the timeframe for having courier agents give mainly non-combat missions again?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=367
Thanks, but I know that blog and it only states when they will not be replaced. I'd be more interested in some information on when they will.
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Garme
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:24:00 -
[128]
Ok, so now what? I downloaded and patched to the latest build and tried to login. I just get STATUS:UNKOWN for the server and it shows the same for the test server. It was displaying a status prior to the patch since I saw people online.
I just reinstalled starting with build 3582 all the way up to the current build. It does the same thing. I tried to create a petition and guess what, that doesn't work either. Can you sense that I am a little frustrated? :)
Any help would be appreciated since I see quite a few others with very similar problems. I run Windows XP sp2 along with all the latest patches for Windows.
Thanks in advance.
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urgs
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:26:00 -
[129]
my buyorder for stasis webifiers is now for shadow serpentis stasis webifier.
warp distance set do default stays at 15 km even after repeatet setting to 20 km
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Shittake
RONA Deepspace Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:31:00 -
[130]
Large Ship Assembly Array Problem.
At our POS we were able to drag built ships from the Large Ship Assembly Array to a Corp Hanger Array and then to a Ship Maintenenace Array. THe dragging from the Corp Hanger to the Ship Maint Array assembled the ship. This no longer works.
I would move the Ship Maint Array closer to the Assembly array for a test but then I would have 100 ships floating around like orange barrels on a US highway and my head would explode.
Bug report already filed - just wanted the general community to know.
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Edu Journeyman
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:35:00 -
[131]
1 - The icons in the overview are now faded when the action cannot be applied in the situation, all right, nothing against it but... Some actions are not showed anymore, like WARP TO a can that is more then 150km away, you need to right click (the can in spacea or in the line it is in overview) and chose the action WARP TO from menu.
2 - The old bug of itens moved to a Station Vault being LOCKED, even if that vault is configured to be unlocked happened sometimes, not all times tho.
3 - The different settings for overview I had saved were all gone with the patch.
That's is all for now, need to sleep some before going to work (RL stuff), tommorow, if I find any other thing, I will post here too. Good luck for all.
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Dani Arden
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:40:00 -
[132]
You broke my font replacement. I want it back.
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k'spy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:42:00 -
[133]
I got a really juicy agent offer before the patch, but with all the lag and instability I was unable to to claim it.
Now I get an error message! I can not claim the Agent offer.
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Gane Green
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:44:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Zlake Lost a BPO that was having a bit of PE research done on it. Petition filed.....we'll see 
I had the same problem but I had 300 mil of bpo that was lost. when I put anothe bpo into copy research. The 300 mil of bpo suddenly reappeared. Try it and see. It worked for me.
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Jean Toroque
InterSec
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:50:00 -
[135]
I'm having trouble issuing orders to more than one drone at a time.
When I click on "Drones in local space" in the overview, the selection box says "Multiple items selected (3)", as expected.
However, if I then click on the Engage Target button, or the Scoop to Drone Bay button, only one of the drones actually does what it's told.
So in order to scoop all my drones, I have to select and scoop each one of them individually.
Smells like a bug.
Strangely, when I click on "Drones in bay" and then "Launch Drones", it works as expected; launches as many drones as I can control at once.
Why do the drones in the bay respond to commands in bulk, but the drones in space only respond one at a time?
Aside: I really like the improved font readability esp. on buttons and graphs in the UI, and performance seems to be smoother than pre-patch.
I saw on the pre-patch thread someone recommend that an EVE-mail or some other in-game notification go out to all players days before the patch, warning them of the anticipated downtime. I couldn't agree more -- players who aren't regular forum dwellers could have been totally caught off-side by the extraordinary downtime. I was peripherally aware that some kind of patch was going to happen on Tuesday because of the MotD, but didn't have any idea that the estimated downtime was 9 hours! If I'd known in advance I could have planned around it better.
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:51:00 -
[136]
When you switch skills before the current one is complete, the 'character sheet' icon stays lit and says you have no skill in training, even tho you have.
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:54:00 -
[137]
"The sound is now correctly played when you receive evemail"
this turned out to be but a cruel lie... you can't tease people with prospect like that, and then leave them hanging ;s
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A Brr
Gallente Tech-5-Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 05:57:00 -
[138]
Edited by: A Brr on 23/08/2006 06:03:01 When you create an escrow, sorting by quantity in the selection box for the items is no longer working. Edit: Sorting by quantity when you open an assets window is also broken. --- The greatest crap CCP designed into EVE: Next generation manufacturing. |

Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:07:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande
Originally by: Mervent
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande What's the timeframe for having courier agents give mainly non-combat missions again?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=367
Thanks, but I know that blog and it only states when they will not be replaced. I'd be more interested in some information on when they will.
They will be back with Kali 1.
I believe I read it in the thread this dev blog was announced.
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Terminal Entry
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:10:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande
Originally by: Mervent
Originally by: Gerome Doutrande What's the timeframe for having courier agents give mainly non-combat missions again?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=367
Thanks, but I know that blog and it only states when they will not be replaced. I'd be more interested in some information on when they will.
First Kali patch I believe.
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teddy demontreal
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:13:00 -
[141]
didn't read all post but i noticed a problem in the market
in the column browse you have the same sentence "type in search string and press Se....", the same sentence than in search column
and nothing else displayed in the column browse
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rodgerd
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:13:00 -
[142]
Soooooo, was removing all of the introductory courier missions for new players a bug or a feature?
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Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:16:00 -
[143]
Oh.
And I do have an issue with this patch, CCP! And I hope you fix id bloody damn soon, you hear me, CCP, soon! Not Soon(tm)!
Ok! You ready for it!? Here goes!
Market screen, there is a totally unneeded comma (,) in the "DETAILS" tab. It reads like "DETAILS ,". OMG, fix, please!
/sarcasm off
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Tayira
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:16:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Shiraz Merlot
Originally by: Derran If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Not wasted. Be a man and offer hauling services to real players, not a computer-generated facsimile.
/sm
... and what's about standing gain to create jumpclones ???? 
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Argael
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:16:00 -
[145]
another thing
if you clic on select only available to see all things, you get this message : "Message: 'MktServiceNotReady' Args: None"
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uppure butte
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:25:00 -
[146]
<brown nose> First of all, thanks for getting the server up. I know you guys were working way harder than me today. Especially since I spent the whole day refreshing my client login waiting for it to come back up.
I really like the improvement to the character sheet. The UI looks way nicer in general. also, nice job with the tutorial button </brown-nose>
I did find a problem with the overview. When renaming a cargo container the new name is not reflected in the overview until after refreshing the overview (I refresh it by collapsing the list then expanding it again. resorting it does not seem to do it).
Easy enough to work around since it is easy to collapse and re-expand the overview. Alightly annoying since this is how I mark loot cans with junk in them so I dont end up going back to it again.
Thanks
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Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:26:00 -
[147]
Originally by: rodgerd Soooooo, was removing all of the introductory courier missions for new players a bug or a feature?
Oh. Now that would be a bug. A rather big one.
I suggest you file a bug report regarding this one.
Or it could be an unintended feature. 
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Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:27:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Red Six on 23/08/2006 06:27:44 1)Read eve-mail. Eve-mail marked as read. 2)Logged off. 3)Logged back on. 4)Eve-mail now marked as unread.
Had this happen to all eve-mail I've received since the patch went live.
Edit: Had this happen on multiple accounts. Same computer but different accounts.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:37:00 -
[149]
A queue to connect at 06:34...
Weird, I thought I was playing EVE, not WOW 
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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ophiuchus3000
ISK Sink Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:37:00 -
[150]
Corp production has a bug, apologies if I am repeating what others have posted here.
When you select areas of Input/Output and then select an Installation slot, when confirming the slot the Input/Output reset. A small bug yes, but will be annoying to me as I always change the Input/Output first :(
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Sharcy
Sonnema
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:40:00 -
[151]
Switching skill training (one skill in progress, switching to another), makes the menu bar Character Sheet button blink and hovering over it shows "No skill in training", even though the new skill will have started training.
First time use of the new client, it won't let me pull up any market data at this time. Both Buy and Sell orders windows show "Fetching orders". This is in Tash Murkon, 06:30 EVE time.
Positive note: the client responds much faster to clicks, the graphical improvements are good, love the "Set as first waypoint" option!
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Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:41:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Kithicus
Originally by: Epsilon 1
Originally by: Mirirar
Quote:
If the overview setups are reset ( i have 8 ) i'd be very ******* ****ed.
You may want to put on some Enya and brew some Chamomile tea before you log in, then.
/Fires up enya and prepares to install the patch 
I dont know exactly how to do it, but ever since my first week playing I have had 2 overview settings saved. Since then all my overview saves are listed at the very top of the right click menu, but my first ones are under a drop down menu on the "Load Default" option. One is my mining setup and the other is the default. After this patch my normal ones have been wiped (along with everyone elses) but those 2 other ones are still there.
As I said, I have no clue how I made them, but I'm assuming they are either stored client side or in some other serverside database that isnt wiped. So if you can figure out how to move your saves there, then you shouldnt have anymore post patch overview wipes.
"Those two" are default settings by grace of CCP. Something one of the Devs came up during the lunch break.
I *think* you could overwrite the default 'Mining' one with your own by saving a setting named 'Mining' and it will not wipe in the future.
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Kane LeBaiton
Gallente Order of the Red Dragon
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:42:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Kane LeBaiton on 23/08/2006 06:42:47 Had 3 agent offers during log on, could only read the details on a 9k LP offer, the other ones are unreadable, no idea why though...
Talking to an agent about an offer makes the agent talk jibberish and states that this has been "logged server-side", so I assume this one went your way already?
Will post if I run into anything else. GJ on almost pulling an all nighter. Seriously, it's nice being able to play a bit on my day off, you just as easily could've decided to keep it offline! (glad you didn't )
Regards,
Kane LeBaiton
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:45:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Victor Valka I *think* you could overwrite the default 'Mining' one with your own by saving a setting named 'Mining' and it will not wipe in the future.
One would have thought they wouldnt have wiped it in the first place
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Logan Xerxes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:48:00 -
[155]
WOOHOO FOR CCP!!! No issues sofar and this patch feels GREAT!
"Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion." -Sun Tzu |

Hakera
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:49:00 -
[156]
couple of annoying stuff (to me)
1. Map search function box alignment - should be more centralised. Looks bad being all on the left.
2. Petition queue - rgt-click and selecting delete petition doesnt clear it from your queue ingame.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:53:00 -
[157]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Victor Valka I *think* you could overwrite the default 'Mining' one with your own by saving a setting named 'Mining' and it will not wipe in the future.
One would have thought they wouldnt have wiped it in the first place
I don't follow. 
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Arxis
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:53:00 -
[158]
Err...it's nothing much, but I believe the counter on the item stack icons has been offset slightly and now clashes with the border of the icon. Just thought I should write somehing annoying as well.
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Zikka
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:53:00 -
[159]
Not had time to read all the thread as need to go to work, but I just logged on and I was sent an agent offer yesterday, got the mail and I see the line in my journal. I can't open the offer though :(
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Senmar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 06:57:00 -
[160]
Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I'm not gonna sift through 6 pages of responses...
I can't organize my onboard cargo by quantity anymore. I click the column header once, and it organizes quantities in ascending order, but if I click it again to have descending order (large quantities at top) it goes to random sorting. very annoying to keep track of ammo this way.
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Luu Kostopholys
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:04:00 -
[161]
I have a slight problem with skill learning. I've checked my skills on monday (20:00 MEST) and still had 1 day 9 hours to go. Looking for the skill now it says there're still 1 day 20 hours to go.
Not learning a thing during patch might be okay but forgetting half of it surely isn't.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:05:00 -
[162]
Setting up overview is a PITA. When you click a check box the whole thing scrolls so that you lose your place. Oh..and how in hell do I get back all my mission NPCs? I never have found where they are stored and leaping into a combat mission without a correctly set up overview is not funny. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:05:00 -
[163]
At least you guys can log on. I cant even jump on to change my skill training, let alone find any in game problems :\ Id say that is the biggest issue yet. Hopefully its something small and will be fixed when wake up tomarrow.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:11:00 -
[164]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Victor Valka I *think* you could overwrite the default 'Mining' one with your own by saving a setting named 'Mining' and it will not wipe in the future.
One would have thought they wouldnt have wiped it in the first place
Meh - one might but this is the fourth patch that has done that since the overview was introduced. Classic CCP move. Have you also noticed that when you click an option in the settings the whole thing scrolls so that you lose your place? That's bordering on sadistic  -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:13:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish At least you guys can log on. I cant even jump on to change my skill training, let alone find any in game problems :\ Id say that is the biggest issue yet. Hopefully its something small and will be fixed when wake up tomarrow.
I'm sorry to hear of your problem but you were told to set a long skill training and that 'long' meant days not hours. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Sandeep
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:14:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Andrue when you click an option in the settings the whole thing scrolls so that you lose your place? That's bordering on sadistic 
Close the other groups first and click from top to bottom.
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DontTrustMe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:19:00 -
[167]
Originally by: kieron Major Issue: A graphical error is making BPOs appear as BPCs and BPCs appear to be BPOs in escrows. This is a *visual* bug only. Do not purchase BPs via escrow unless you are sure of the contents. Players exploiting this bug will be banned.
I think this bannable exploits like this should be highlighted ingame, as not everyone reads the forums let alone the nth page of a large thread.
Could end up banning people for exploiting a bug when they were honestly just trying to exploit peoples stupidity with what would normally be a legitimate scam.
(Please don't start with any "scammers should all be banned" responses, scamming is allowed and this is not the place to discuss it!) |

M PIquet
StateCorp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:21:00 -
[168]
Overview settings:
- all settings have been reset, and saved settings deleted
- alliance tag no longer appears in "Ally" column of overview
- members of my alliance appear on my overview as neutral, even though I removed pilots of good standing and alliance members from it
Of course, the two alliance guys I saw may be in a corp that just that second left the alliance, but their Show Info still shows them as in V.
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HenkieBoy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:26:00 -
[169]
Quote: Most of the Devs went home after a marathon, 18 hour session and most of them will be back in about 6-7 hours to work on the outstanding issues.
You are letting them sleep? 
Thanks for the patch (and the game). Just curious though, would it be possible to 'queue' skills in the future? I lost 6 hours learningpoints (just started playing) some sort queue system would prevent it in the future.
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JumpingJax
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:34:00 -
[170]
Security Status seems to have reset to 0.0 although my log of updates seems to still be there.
Tash Murkon Region market is not working properly. Market does appear to work fine in Domain region. (And note I did read all the post and know this has been reported).
Finally to comment on the "winers" and the loss of courier missions. From what I understood reading the previous blog updates. Courier missions were removed because it was incompatable with the new build. I also understand they will be coming back. Whenever the missions can start to be added back in the better. I am not a combat pilot and very little combat skils. Instead I have focused on Social, Corporate, and Trade skills. It isn't about money as a previous poster implied. I can make money easily enough. However Courier missions is the best way for me to increase my agent rankings and my npc corp relations without without having my bottom handed to me in a sling. YES without Courier missions I will still have a work around, I can do easier level 1 missions or run missions in a group. BUT These specific type of missions served a valuable role in Eve. I can be patient and I realize this isn't exactly a high priority issue right now but when appropriate time comes please bring them back. I know the squeaky wheel gets the oil so I just wanted to add my comment the the existing noise on this issue.
To end on a more positive note - To me one of the most exciting features of playing an mmorpg is the idea that the game will continue to be built up and expanded in the future, not only by the players but by a team of developers introducing new features. So Thank You for your hard work on keeping the game fresh.
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Jennai
Leonard J. Crabs Legal Consortium
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:38:00 -
[171]
the price scale on the left edge of the market history graph is unable to display the price on more expensive items because the price runs off the edge of the image and you can't see anything except a column of "0,000,000.00"
------- macro hunters - join channel MacroIntel macro miner killboard: www.anti-macro.com |

Matt'Guitar'Murphy
White Wolves Defence league E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:42:00 -
[172]
That all transport missions are now removed is not a very good idea. Now you can't run mission on an semi-afk account and another issue is, that you can't focus on a non combat account if you want to get R&D agents. Pls make some new missions, where no combat skills are required.Thnx
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Bero Tepesh
Caldari GLOBE Mining and Production
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:42:00 -
[173]
Patch or not, I think a little more respect and consideration toward all PRESENT PAYING players would be greatly appreciated.
Too often changes and gameplay modifications are made thinking about the more players to come in the future and not about smooth gameplay of old players. I'm not talking about win 95/98/ME compatibility but general gameplay issues, and I'm getting tired of this.
   Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes! |

RedDevil
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:45:00 -
[174]
Yea i just returned to eve from 2 years in wow a week ago and the courier missions were nice to make easy money.
thanks ccp.
really.
thanks.
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Matthew
Caldari BloodStar Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:46:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Senmar Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I'm not gonna sift through 6 pages of responses...
I can't organize my onboard cargo by quantity anymore. I click the column header once, and it organizes quantities in ascending order, but if I click it again to have descending order (large quantities at top) it goes to random sorting. very annoying to keep track of ammo this way.
I've only encountered this when using "details" or "list" viewing modes - "Icons" mode seems to work ok. In the other modes, keep trying the sort again, it should start working properly after a couple of attempts, though this will be reset again if you close and reopen the window.
Originally by: Andrue Setting up overview is a PITA. When you click a check box the whole thing scrolls so that you lose your place. Oh..and how in hell do I get back all my mission NPCs? I never have found where they are stored and leaping into a combat mission without a correctly set up overview is not funny.
I assume you've checked all the dozens of "<faction name> <ship type>" entries under the "entities" section? I think a lot of those types are now being used in missions. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |

Mining Minion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:47:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Mining Minion on 23/08/2006 07:56:17 First of all, thanks and everything! =) I'm sure, deployement bugs will be squashed asap, and good luck with that.
But removing some features from them game just like that on the fly... Yes, it is bad move. :(
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Tas Devil
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
There is plenty reason to "whine" about this, they removed a whole blooming career! It needs to be replaced as soon as humainly possible.
I do second that. WTF am I supposed to do now? What if don't even have enough skills to do kill missions? Or do devs suggest to go back to 1st-2nd lvl kill missions from 4th level courier missions?
It should not really concern us, if they have warned us a week ago or something that courier missions will be temporary disabled. For real, I heard about this myself only yesterday, while I was reading dev blogs while the server was down for the update. The courier missions were a part of the game, many people were making them specifically, and now they are removed for who knows how long for. We all very well know, how soon is "soon". So does it mean that courier missions will not be available for a few months at least?
Also, does it mean that Chineese version of EVE lacks courier missions alltogether as well?
Reading the dev blog I can see that the excuse for removing old system was - let me quote it:
Quote: First of all, we have a very old agent mission system which is costly in resources, is limiting in what we can do and requires the mission creator to have a rudimentary understanding of python to create a mission, and the associated chances of bugs cropping up on all levels of the authoring of missions. This is bad, mkay? :)
We have had for some time a new mission system, which doesn't require python understanding enables us to do more than the old system in a shorter period of time.
The "new" system was actually introduced in EXODUS and you mainly noticed it in Deadspace missions. This is because the new system enables us to do missions with more interesting encounters, such as in Deadspace or any of the other new environments we have planned.
From this I can see that the had "new" mission system for quite some time now, and the content developers could have started to work on those missions very long time ago. Why didn't they use new system to do it? For all it takes, they could have reused mission texts from the old system. And if you say, it is so simple for them to create mission under new mission system, they could do dozens of missions in no time with ready made material and tools at hand. If your new mission system can't handle creation of courier missions, well, just write it so, and tell us how soon is "soon".
If your content developers can't do python, hire me. I'll learn it just for fun of it. They will do missions on paper, and I'll put them into your "new" mission system, if they couldn't do it themselves by now. Really, I'm up for it, send me e-mail (you know it).
Or is there another true reason behind removing courier missions from the game till they find a proper "solution"? Is the real reason in "creating cash out of thin air"?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:47:00 -
[177]
Automatic coloumn resizing in the overview is a Very Bad IdeaÖ. --*=*=*--
Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment. |

Lynja Liandri
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:47:00 -
[178]
If someone finds the German UI translation ... err ... questionable and irritating you have to edit prefs.ini in your cache folder and change languageID=DE to languageID=EN.
May I suggest to add a language selection list-box to the login dialog?
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:47:00 -
[179]
Originally by: RedDevil Yea i just returned to eve from 2 years in wow a week ago and the courier missions were nice to make easy money.
thanks ccp.
really.
thanks.
Be glad you aren't amarr-only spec  
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:52:00 -
[180]
I havent had time to explore all the bugs people outline (about to head off to work).
But wow, is Eve faster! I usually have time to hit the undock button, go to the fridge and grab a beer, and get back to my desk in time to see my ship squirt out of the station. But this morning I undocked in only a few seconds.
Performance increases 4tw!
What I do the rest of the time. |
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Ralitge boyter
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:53:00 -
[181]
Oh, boobies... is most likely what the DEV's will say when they read this thread 
Anyway the patch time was not to bad it's just that after a month of holidays I found out a little late about it and mist a few hours of training time 
Then again who cares, the good thing is that the system is back up and there is enough work for the DEV's to delay KALI for at least a month or so 
Good thing that the upgrade was done, bad thing that there was a issue when trying to start the cluster the first time around. Great that is was fixed so quickly though. I hope the rest of "minor" issues will be sorted out soon, how about the end of next week guys? Would be nice, ignore KALI for a while and sort out Tranquility before going back to writting the next set of bugs.  ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |

Merdaneth
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:54:00 -
[182]
Science & Industry - Pick Installation window
Sorting on 'Next Free Time Column' is done aphabetically instead of numerically, resulting in an order like 10 days, 11 days, 2 days, 24 days, 38 days, 39 days, 4 days, 6 days etc.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:54:00 -
[183]
Originally by: FireFoxx80 I havent had time to explore all the bugs people outline (about to head off to work).
But wow, is Eve faster! I usually have time to hit the undock button, go to the fridge and grab a beer, and get back to my desk in time to see my ship squirt out of the station. But this morning I undocked in only a few seconds.
Performance increases 4tw!
Yup code is indeed optimized, all windows/tables etc expand collapse faster, more slicker interface which is also working smooth.
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Sathynos
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:54:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Bero Tepesh
Too often changes and gameplay modifications are made thinking about the more players to come in the future and not about smooth gameplay of old players.
I believe you might lack perspective here. I encourage you to experience "pleasure" of playing one of SOE games, esp. SW Galaxies. That might teach you to jump around out of happiness how well put EVE is, how wonderfull it's customer service is, how little bugs there are and how smooth gameplay is. And that 10 hours of downtime after patch is quite a short time.
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Nerraan Peklaa
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:58:00 -
[185]
To the devs:
Thank you for working so hard on getting the server up last night. I'm a developer myself and I know you can get pretty pee-d off that all the users are complaining about you not doing something. If they had to sort it out it would never be done!
Anyway, dont think that all of the eve community is ungrateful, just that those who are normally post more!
Btw - Loving the optimised UI code :)
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:59:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 23/08/2006 08:04:56 Everything seems to work fine to me this morning.. ive messed around alot with the client to find anything strange. Just a few minor things:
When clicking Help and then Join Help, I wish the help channel window would become opened and focused on. There is no indication that you have joined the help channel if you play the game with the local/corp channels minimized.
Also I tried to delete one of my petitions without success. Its a old petition that have timed out in the system (from 2006.06.03) , but I cant seem to delete it in the list. No idea if this worked with the old client or not.
Also every constellation or region shows "Traffic Advisory!" after its name when picking destinations with the map. It doesnt matter what destination i pick. It doesnt seem to be the system itself which im travelling through that has the traffic problems. Its more like I get the warning if ANY system in the constellation or region has a problem. Maybe I just needs to clear my cache or something...
Edit: I felt I should add something positive as well... the new client is much faster and looks sharper and more professional. Undocking is also faster. I really want to see how things work out tonight with more people online...but so far im impressed and really dont want the old client back. :)
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Vandervecken Smith
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:06:00 -
[187]
Minot bug in POS reacting Before when a reactor array said "Starting Up" it now says something like "ui_general_startingup" or something of that nature
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Malinaria
Rebirth Inc. Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:10:00 -
[188]
Nasty one, didnt happen to my corpmates so far but : My clone was reseted to base clone (30k sp) - I have not been poded
Guys who are in 0.0, check your clone  ---------------------
Savior of Santa Crash |

Celiss
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:11:00 -
[189]
The patch seems to have broken replacement fonts. It seems it now ignores the replacement font, perhaps instead using the font file in res.stuff. This makes the game unplayable for me.
Back when I was a trial user considering whether to keep playing, the unreadable (for me with 20/20 vision on 1600x1200 20" LCD) font was my #1 concern. Thanks to some others I was able to resolve that. I also worry for my friends who actually do have less than perfect vision.
Just a couple days ago I switched my sub from monthly to 3 month chunks, but I've now changed it back to 1 month (good thing it didn't get rebilled yet). I simply can't play when it takes so much work to read. I'm hoping replaceable fonts are fixed, in which case I can go back to 3 months again. :)
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:11:00 -
[190]
Just logged in shortly, and found two remarkably things:
1. My whole laptop used to be lagged when the character select screen while entering the game was opened. This seems to has gone.
2. Opening the evemails window used to last about a minute or longer. It now comes within a few seconds.
I have not seen the bit about switching off courier missions until today. I hope that they in fact will come back next month with the Kali patch. Besides being a corp leader and production/research char, my whole 15mil SP are build around doing courier missions, that was my job. I'm kinda unemployed now...
Juwi Kotch
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Danii
CryoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:13:00 -
[191]
Don't know if this has already been noted in this thread, but I (and several others who posted in the known issues thread) cannot read the details of agent offers. I can see the offer in my journal, but clicking it doesn't open it (it shifts focus to the "rent office" button).
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:15:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: Andrue Setting up overview is a PITA. When you click a check box the whole thing scrolls so that you lose your place. Oh..and how in hell do I get back all my mission NPCs? I never have found where they are stored and leaping into a combat mission without a correctly set up overview is not funny.
I assume you've checked all the dozens of "<faction name> <ship type>" entries under the "entities" section? I think a lot of those types are now being used in missions.
I imagine I have but I'll check again, thanks for the reminder. Only last week I came across some more I didn't have checked. I don't really see why they aren't the default unless it's CCP's idea of adding a little difficulty to mission running. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

SpaceCommander Travis
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:18:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Longline30 the damn thing wont let me d/l the new patch 4557. it asks if i would like too but then no screen pops up so it never gets d/l'ed. what is the deal. also when i was playing it i would get ****ed at how many times i had to restart the pro do to it shutting off on its own or locking up. is there a way to fix that?
I am getting exactly the same problem,I eeven downloaded the entire thing again and got exactly the same trouble....so what the hell am I supposed to do now?...just waste my money for nothing?
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DirtyHarry
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:21:00 -
[194]
Problem with 2-boxing since the patch:
Having the sound ENABLED on EITHER of the 2 clients causes a huge FPS decrease on whichever client(s) have the sound enabled. I didn't have the problem before the patch.
Windows XP Pro w/ SP2 SB Audigy 2 w/ latest drivers
Havocide - DirtyHarry
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Lemoning Lemming
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:23:00 -
[195]
Another deployment, another mess.
Happened so many times now it is expected , maybe at some point in far, far away improbable future you will learn how to do this properly.
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Clodia Audax
Amarr Pragmatics
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:31:00 -
[196]
Slightly annoying issue with the patch. I have three accounts running from three installations. I thought the installations were all the same. However, the patch does the following.
Install 1 - Dies half-way through complaining about a corrupt component. Install 2 - Refuses to accept that my install directory contains EvE. Install 3 - Works perfectly.
This is using a single copy of the manually downloaded patch executable. I think it might be time to download the full install (although I wish that it was available as the new version).
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Rimhawk
Caldari Winds of Vengeance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:32:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Kenz Rider Edited by: Kenz Rider on 23/08/2006 03:44:12 Well it seems in your zeal to stop client manipulations you have taken away the ability to change the font by changing out the file. Thanks. Now I can't read anything. I can't change my resolution because I play on a 1400x1050 15" LCD, and the non-native resolution blurs everything, including the text even worse than if I use 1400x1050. This is quite insane.
Edit: Well I checked some stuff out and it seems eve just doesn't like to load other fonts anymore.
Just cancelled, but unfortunetly have 30 days left. Who wants my stuff?
I'll take it.  Rimhawk V8 Interceptors |

RealJames
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:35:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Weirda
Originally by: Ginger Lynn I love you CCP, somehow the game looks sexier :)
...
*is in the happy place* 
Best Name Ever
Thank you CCP - backed up settings folder first - will see what need to find... 
lol
Originally by: Doppleganger Edited by: Doppleganger on 23/08/2006 04:32:10
Originally by: cheru Edited by: cheru on 23/08/2006 04:26:18
Originally by: Jacob Siven
... I autopatched and it made it all the way through to the resDungeons.stuff and said there was a bad CRC. So I followed the link, got the manual patch. Got the same thing, bad CRC on resDungeons.stuff. Now my client crashes before the login screen ever displays, right after the splash screen. ...
Got the exact same problem. After downloading the full build from the same page as the manual patch and running it I got an error message while it was checking integrity saying the file was corrupt and I have to download it again ...
OS is Win 2k SP4
I got the same thing.... the 1st patching went wrong (same error) and had to d/l the full install which i was disappointed didnt include the new patch and when I tried to patch it again it went bad again until I applied the patch manually.
Guess its my fault i should know by now to only manually patch things.
Not sure why I patched my install of tranq anyway since my sisi install worked fine on the tranq server.
I autopatched and went for a shower, oh how foolish, the client evidently knows that real players don't shower. Anyways, I too have this problem now, splash screen, process ends, nothing. I guess I'll be redownloading the entire client again this evening. I'm trying to remember the last time I did actually autopatch successfully, if ever.
I shall give positive feedback if I get back into the game (and still like it).
Originally by: Andrue
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish At least you guys can log on. I cant even jump on to change my skill training, let alone find any in game problems :\ Id say that is the biggest issue yet. Hopefully its something small and will be fixed when wake up tomarrow.
I'm sorry to hear of your problem but you were told to set a long skill training and that 'long' meant days not hours.
I did change from 2 1/2 days to 16 days...
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:36:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Rimhawk
Originally by: Kenz Rider Edited by: Kenz Rider on 23/08/2006 03:44:12 Well it seems in your zeal to stop client manipulations you have taken away the ability to change the font by changing out the file. Thanks. Now I can't read anything. I can't change my resolution because I play on a 1400x1050 15" LCD, and the non-native resolution blurs everything, including the text even worse than if I use 1400x1050. This is quite insane.
Edit: Well I checked some stuff out and it seems eve just doesn't like to load other fonts anymore.
Just cancelled, but unfortunetly have 30 days left. Who wants my stuff?
I'll take it. 
Give it to me and will take care of it. Guess i'll be putting all of my assets in 2 freighters and then selfdestructing them in the near future 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Bero Tepesh
Caldari GLOBE Mining and Production
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:38:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Sathynos
I believe you might lack perspective here. I encourage you to experience "pleasure" of playing one of SOE games, esp. SW Galaxies. That might teach you to jump around out of happiness how well put EVE is, how wonderfull it's customer service is, how little bugs there are and how smooth gameplay is. And that 10 hours of downtime after patch is quite a short time.
Too easy call for worst examples of customercare, and strange how SWG is always the example... Neverthless, problems have to be solved, not compared with other's, so that's a list of bugs I found in this release:
- sound issues, game sounds are not syncronized with proper events (warp, afterburners on ecc.) - tractor beam sound effect is totally absent
Excuse if these problems were already posted here.
  
Go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes! |
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Lenid Kalkin
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:39:00 -
[201]
When placing items into escrow, all of the text in the review and submit popup runs together. No functional bug, but very annoying to read when placing more than one item ito escrow and tryng to verify the itesm, cost, etc.
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ESF Hyperion
Minmatar GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:42:00 -
[202]
I've lost all my bpo's that were in research from my job status screen, however if you look at the installion the bpo is still in the slot.
As per someone else in this thread i've entered another bp into the queue, but this isnt causing them to reshow up.
petition going in now
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EvilNate
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:43:00 -
[203]
Couldn't log on for very long this morning. Loging in takes seconds and the UI looks cleaner. I like the functionality to remove buttons from the panel, but that might have been there before.
Still need to actualy fly around.
Good job guys.
Nate.
-------- www.bydi.org |

Weirda
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:48:00 -
[204]
lots of little issues - but was able to resolve them: 1) many many ctd - every one of them while in cloak after gating [went away after re-clearing cache] 2) setting 'warp to' default other then 15km, all context menus still had 15km as default, though box above overview showed the new value [went away after re-clearing cache] 3) saw several of the bugs (market font alignment/etc) - but those seemed to go away on their own
Client now running VERY smooth - and thing feel much snappier! especially 'entering wherever' is almost instantaneous (gating/docking/undocking). FPS went up about 25% to top it off! 
AWESOME JOB CCP - sorry it was such a tough mess for you guys!  __ Weirda Join QOTSA Now |

Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:49:00 -
[205]
Not sure if this has been posted here but here it is anyway
If you have a BM to a staion and started to warp there then while in warp click on the station icon ready to down when you come out of warp, it does not up date and even though your at 0m/s it still says your in warp and you have to click on the station icon again.. Would have thought that this would update when you exit warp
Thanks
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das licht
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:53:00 -
[206]
Agent offer did not show up under offers tab.
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Norma Stitz
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Posted - 2006.08.23 08:59:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Epicurus Not sure if this has been posted here but here it is anyway
If you have a BM to a staion and started to warp there then while in warp click on the station icon ready to down when you come out of warp, it does not up date and even though your at 0m/s it still says your in warp and you have to click on the station icon again.. Would have thought that this would update when you exit warp
Thanks
It was always like that. Would be nice if they changed it to be like a gate though.
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Epicurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:02:00 -
[208]
never noticed on stations before
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Zodiaq
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:05:00 -
[209]
More whining about courier missions, now from me...
This removal of courier missions is so unexpected, please understad my point of view - my char is miner/researcher/producer with very low perc and will attr, buy with quite good int and mem - from begining I knew what kind of char I want to make... so invested a lot of time for science skills... to gain stand I could do only courier missions, and now, THANX TO SO GREAT PATCH, I'll have to loose a lot of time learning perc and will learning skills, then taking gunnery, missile and starship command as currently I can fly max dest ship, which even for lvl2 mission is a bit too weak... and now I'll have TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME to be able to increase my stand again and do kill missions, well THANX! Or just wait for Kali patch, which nobody knows where will be released...
And pls answer to Mining Minion as I'm facing same problems here and alse would like to hear explaination why, even if ccp could prepare 'new' courier missions, courier missions are removed without ANY substitute...
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Vito Parabellum
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:07:00 -
[210]
When clonejumping with a clone already in station you get "Are you sure you wanna overwite this clone blah blah" and there is only an Ok button to press.
After clonejumping your new clones attribs aren't updated.
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Aesuss
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:07:00 -
[211]
Before the patch I could log on, but afterwards all it says is 'checking status' and it gets stuck on that.
What to do?
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Albus
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:10:00 -
[212]
My entering and exiting warp sounds are missing on both my clients. Pre-patch, one client had replacement sound files in res/Sound to fix the super loud warp noises, one didn't. In some ways this is a blessing in disguise, but I thought I'd mention it in case it wasn't deliberate.
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Logan Xerxes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:16:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Albus My entering and exiting warp sounds are missing on both my clients. Pre-patch, one client had replacement sound files in res/Sound to fix the super loud warp noises, one didn't. In some ways this is a blessing in disguise, but I thought I'd mention it in case it wasn't deliberate.
For me the, all warp sounds are gone I like this bug/feature
"Draw them in with the prospect of gain, take them by confusion." -Sun Tzu |

Zarch AlDain
Friends of Everyone
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:17:00 -
[214]
Originally by: voogru
Originally by: Aelbric II Potential Combat Problem
Mission: Avenge a Fallen Comrade
Target: Possibly any, definitely the Habitat objective
Loadout:
Merlin Missile Launcher I (Bloodclaw) 125mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) 150mm Railgun I (Iridium ammo) Civilian Shield Booster 1MN Afterburner I Shield Extender I Shield Extender I
Orbiting the target at 19km, the Bloodclaw missiles simply disappear after running about 15km. No hit or miss message. They simply...vanish. Close distance to 15km, every missile hits no problem. Took a couple minutes to notice it.
15km is about the range of the bloodclaw light missiles...
It does sound like the missiles aren't reaching their target - but with decent projection and bombardment skills you can get light missiles out past 20km easilly enough.
Perhaps those skills aren't working now?
Zarch AlDain
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Marsellus Savage
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:18:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Zodiaq More whining about courier missions, now from me...
This removal of courier missions is so unexpected, please understad my point of view - my char is miner/researcher/producer with very low perc and will attr, buy with quite good int and mem - from begining I knew what kind of char I want to make... so invested a lot of time for science skills... to gain stand I could do only courier missions, and now, THANX TO SO GREAT PATCH, I'll have to loose a lot of time learning perc and will learning skills, then taking gunnery, missile and starship command as currently I can fly max dest ship, which even for lvl2 mission is a bit too weak... and now I'll have TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME to be able to increase my stand again and do kill missions, well THANX! Or just wait for Kali patch, which nobody knows where will be released...
And pls answer to Mining Minion as I'm facing same problems here and alse would like to hear explaination why, even if ccp could prepare 'new' courier missions, courier missions are removed without ANY substitute...
*sigh* Maybe you should try to read the dev blog made by Oveur before you start your whining.
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btc01
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:20:00 -
[216]
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone at CCP for all their hard work. And a special thank you to the Dev team - well done for getting the new patch deployed! I know how hard things like this can be (As a software developer myself)
Cheers, Ben
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:29:00 -
[217]
Edited by: Ephemeron on 23/08/2006 09:31:11 The "ally" column in Overview doesn't show alliance tags like it used to, it's always empty
I want this feature to work
Also, I was adjusting column width in Overview interface, and while I was dragging one side of the column, I got a big white vertical line. I can't get rid of this line from my overview
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:30:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Marsellus Savage
Originally by: Zodiaq More whining about courier missions, now from me...
This removal of courier missions is so unexpected, please understad my point of view - my char is miner/researcher/producer with very low perc and will attr, buy with quite good int and mem - from begining I knew what kind of char I want to make... so invested a lot of time for science skills... to gain stand I could do only courier missions, and now, THANX TO SO GREAT PATCH, I'll have to loose a lot of time learning perc and will learning skills, then taking gunnery, missile and starship command as currently I can fly max dest ship, which even for lvl2 mission is a bit too weak... and now I'll have TO WASTE A LOT OF TIME to be able to increase my stand again and do kill missions, well THANX! Or just wait for Kali patch, which nobody knows where will be released...
And pls answer to Mining Minion as I'm facing same problems here and alse would like to hear explaination why, even if ccp could prepare 'new' courier missions, courier missions are removed without ANY substitute...
*sigh* Maybe you should try to read the dev blog made by Oveur before you start your whining.
And that would tell him what? It gave people one week's notice that the missions would be gone and barely a hint of when they'd come back. -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Zodiaq
Gallente Black Sun Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:37:00 -
[219]
Marsellus start reading dev blogs yourself! There is no info when courier missions will be back, just that had to be done... duh, I understand that, changes are made through pain, but understand me - I've been left WITH NO ALTERNATIVE... only way for me is to spend a lot of time investing in gunnery, starship command etc. only to be able to increase my stand again... would you be happy if suddenly ccp decides that kill missions need to be changed and they remove them in next patch? Or if mining would be removed just becouse old lasers are useless and in next patch new shiny lasers will be introduced, what about that?
And if new missions system was added in prev patches why there are no 'new' courier missions now?? Zodiaq |

AceOfSpace
Amdonen Pheonix Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:37:00 -
[220]
Noo! Can't turn on autopilot in station anymore this is bad news for lazy people 
On the plus side, I love the shiny new buttons  -where there's an ace, there's a way- |
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Zarch AlDain
Friends of Everyone
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:38:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Zarch AlDain on 23/08/2006 09:40:00 Just found something that might help low level courior mission runners - Event agents still give courior missions.
I just took a mission to transport some batteries and I got standing and isk for doing it.
P.S. No loyalty points this way, but at least I can get standings up some more on my new research alt - and standing is the only real reason I am doing the missions!
Zarch AlDain
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Mining Minion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:41:00 -
[222]
Now that I have checked it (again), the Oveur's blog was posted 2 (two!) days ago, i.e. 1 day before the patch. That is not even 1 week. :)
And in the blog it says the following: "They will be replaced, but not in this patch." Well, I don't know about you, but for me it sounds like:
"They will be replaced in some distant future, we don't know even ourselves, when it will happen, so it means "SoonÖ"
...me likes it not.
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Grex Rildo
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:42:00 -
[223]
Not sure if this has been posted here. If you give an Cargo Container an new name this new name does not appear in the Overview. This makes looting unplayable. Sorry for my bad english...
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Ferocitana
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:42:00 -
[224]
Good to see you are all up again, thou you get really delayed. No major patch is/has/will ever go smooth for any game without getting problems =)
I'll do my best to find all those small errors I can find. Dont think your done yet ;)
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Kastar
Chronodynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:44:00 -
[225]
I logged in for a quick look this morning and was surprised by the speed I went through. The graphics adjustments work out well.
You're lucky, I approve of this patch. Nice work. 
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Zolti Bramber
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:54:00 -
[226]
Well another patch another load of players whining, IF the people doing the complaining had even the fainest idea of how big an operation it is to rip out a chunck of core code and change code for the better then they wouldn't whin.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, I know you have paid for a gaming experiance and you dont take kindly to an interuption in your gaming but bare this in mind if you want an idea on how big a million lines of code is. if you could print out the first 10 chars of each line of code at a rate of 10 lines printed per second it would take 28 HOURS to print it all out
So imagine what happens if you plan to change ONE line of code that affects several differnt attributes, you have to try and test each of those possiblitys its takes time and some outcomes arn't expected.
So get off the devs backs I think they do an amazing job and hope they are getting some well desered rest after their hurculian efforts during this patch.
So keep your comments constructive and positive, we all know patches can be fustrating but we also know that the CCP will have Eve back up and running better than ever.
Fly safe
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:54:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Crumplecorn on 23/08/2006 09:54:17 They got rid of the warp sound, how about making that optional guys? 
Also my Thread of Cool New Stuff was locked, you'd think they'd appreciate a thread just for things people like rather than mixing it in with all the bugs and issues. 
Game loads way way faster now as well. ----------
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:58:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Zolti Bramber Well another patch another load of players whining, IF the people doing the complaining had even the fainest idea of how big an operation it is to rip out a chunck of core code and change code for the better then they wouldn't whin.
Sorry if this sounds harsh, I know you have paid for a gaming experiance and you dont take kindly to an interuption in your gaming but bare this in mind if you want an idea on how big a million lines of code is. if you could print out the first 10 chars of each line of code at a rate of 10 lines printed per second it would take 28 HOURS to print it all out
So imagine what happens if you plan to change ONE line of code that affects several differnt attributes, you have to try and test each of those possiblitys its takes time and some outcomes arn't expected.
So get off the devs backs I think they do an amazing job and hope they are getting some well desered rest after their hurculian efforts during this patch.
So keep your comments constructive and positive, we all know patches can be fustrating but we also know that the CCP will have Eve back up and running better than ever.
Fly safe
amen. now everyone stop the complaining. its not like any other MMO is better when it comes to things like this.
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Cerys Magente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:59:00 -
[229]
I've had a quick look (haven't even undocked yet!) and noticed a few things:
- previously mentioned problems with agent offers (offer details cannot be read, agent complains about an unhandled exception when asked about offers)
- although I have 'show tutorials' disabled in my options there's Aura staring at me disapprovingly from the sidebar (probably been snooping though my hangars, to judge by the looks I'm getting). Is there any way to remove the tutorials button?
- My 2 Federal Navy Academy agents seem to suffer from amnesia and now introduce themselves as tutorial agents rather than 'normal' agents (Advisory). Pre-patch their greetings would depend on standings - eg. I have a standing of 9.5 towards one of them, and pre-patch this agent would greet me with cries of joy and delight, offer me sweetmeats and insist on giving me a foot massage... now he treats me like just another new graduate (typical... just when I have sore feet and a craving for champagne truffles!) and talks about training missions... (though when asked for a mission he did offer a 'normal' combat mission).
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:01:00 -
[230]
bug: production screen
change the output hanger, then select an installation to use, it resets the output hanger. ----------------------
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Kredan Rasok
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:06:00 -
[231]
Originally by: j0sephine "The sound is now correctly played when you receive evemail"
this turned out to be but a cruel lie... you can't tease people with prospect like that, and then leave them hanging ;s
Oh it's there, its just so pathetic it might as well not be. send a mail to yourself when all is quiet and you will hear a very faint 'beep'. Come on CCP i've heard insects make more noise than that thing.
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:08:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Kenz Rider Edited by: Kenz Rider on 23/08/2006 03:44:12 Well it seems in your zeal to stop client manipulations you have taken away the ability to change the font by changing out the file. Thanks. Now I can't read anything. I can't change my resolution because I play on a 1400x1050 15" LCD, and the non-native resolution blurs everything, including the text even worse than if I use 1400x1050. This is quite insane.
Edit: Well I checked some stuff out and it seems eve just doesn't like to load other fonts anymore.
Just cancelled, but unfortunetly have 30 days left. Who wants my stuff?
can I have it ...
but seriously .. run in windowed mode 1280x1024 ... should be fine.
-- BIG Lottery, Deal & Sales | Skills Showroom
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Montis
Gallente Technomage Creations Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:12:00 -
[233]
Not sure if anyone else is getting this, but when I turn the camera around, as soon as i release the left hand mouse button, the client takes it as a double click in that direction so I start moving.
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Kitty O'Shay
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:13:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Cerys Magente - although I have 'show tutorials' disabled in my options there's Aura staring at me disapprovingly from the sidebar (probably been snooping though my hangars, to judge by the looks I'm getting). Is there any way to remove the tutorials button?
Right click below the bottome neocomm button and choose "configure," untick and you can hide her. --
1 in 10 chance to win a battleship! |

Silenne Otsaku
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:15:00 -
[235]
somes things : => Each time you change 1 things (show frigate per exemple) on the config panel, the overview "flick" => If you want to move you drone to one of you'r old set of group, it's respond you "you can't mix type of drones" => Launch you'r drones, select 1 right click => Ok a fancy menu, select 2 and ... right click, no menu, you need to micro-manage them now :p => right click => asteroid belt show a HUGE menu, some times disturbing when a lot of belt
Ps : like the new button in 'selected item', just need to advice when it s ound 'dark gray', it juse cause you can't use it., thanks for all the improvement Nahh no sign for now :p |

Vladimir G'orkin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:16:00 -
[236]
Unable to use another font with the new patch. The default font makes my eyes bleed due to it being close to unreadable at this resolution.
Please make it possible to change the font to something more readable.
The default font may look pretty but it's really hard to read it for some of us.

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GlaxyRider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:16:00 -
[237]
I seem to be having a log in problem after the patch i cant get pass connecting to server. i type in my pass and all and when that happen the Eve screen just cuts off. any idea what i can do to actually log in?
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Miss Xuan
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:17:00 -
[238]
When looking at items in you cargo or hangar the little box at the bottom (which contains the number of items in that stack) is a bit too big for the icon. This means the bottom of the icon cuts through some numbers.
Not a major issue but thought you might like to know.
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Sazumaan Johnza
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:17:00 -
[239]
Quote:
Oh sorry so we can't tell you how lousy a patch deployement this was yet again ?
I thought most problems were to arise because you were unable to replicate the game environment for testing ? ie impossible to test the patch before 27,000 users all jumped on it...
Obviously something else much more basic was at hand... since it took no players online whatsoever to create issues that delayed you for a good 12 hours...
Dude just shut the hell up.
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Diluasmas Acangil
UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:18:00 -
[240]
Not sure if its been mentioned or what sort of bug it is but just went from domain region to tashmurkon tried to open market and got this message have tried relogging and still no market.
Message: 'MktServiceNotReady' Args: None
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BPO Polymerase
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:25:00 -
[241]
Excellent work CCP, I think you have introduced a lot of nice features with this patch.
The layout of the character information is brilliant, with all important information available at a glance.
Well done, keep up the good work :) --
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:25:00 -
[242]
My overview settings are gone.
Ship lovers click here |

Astorothe
Ono-Sensai
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:30:00 -
[243]
Fell asleep at around 10 minutes to 0000 Eve Time - what time did it end up coming up? I bet I just missed it :)
Yarr btw - well done devs for sorting it out.
My Apocalypse Setup |

rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:32:00 -
[244]
Edited by: rig0r on 23/08/2006 10:32:18 Kudos to your decision to send Transgaming a code-drop so they were able to release a cedega update today and keep EVE running smoothly on linux.
Patch is looking good sofar. Only issue I encountered is that my overview settings are gone. The UI seems to respond faster overall.
Good job !
Eve rocks on Linux |

Yunaride
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:33:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Xeron Silverblade i have some problems with the market.
search works but he keeps on fetching data forever as it seems, same with items selected from the quickbar
browse list keeps empty. if i tongle "show only available" error pops up:
Message: 'MktServiceNotReady' Args: None
same for me, and the error message also pops up when i try to sell something .
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LukAsh
Amarr LFC 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:38:00 -
[246]
POS trouble:
- mobile labs lost some bpc's from jobs after Dragon patch. - mobile labs, which ended their cycles after Dragon patch do not show, in installations list when you try to instal next job. Onlining/offlining them does not resolve the problem.
Manufacturing/research:
- when installing new job in station, when you order available slots by their availability time, the sorting is broken.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:39:00 -
[247]
tashmurkon market is broken until after dt (expect a 2-3 hour today) which im comfortable with a lot of small bugs to fix and probably a few reboots but overall its running much better.
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Asketus
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:42:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Asketus on 23/08/2006 10:46:14 Hi. Why did they remove my beloved courier-missions ??? Again a change against my way of playing with almost no fighting... Will they be replaced with new courier missions ?
Asketus/Pizzakiller 
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Laendra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:47:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Caerleus Problems:
1: overview settings gone...gee thanks.
This is nothing new...happens every patch, although it would be nice if we could actually save those settings in our Prefs.ini or something...or, they get saved in our settings files. ------------------- |

Laendra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:48:00 -
[250]
and, oh yeah, like others, I too am unable to change the default warp to distance. ------------------- |
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Honneamise
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:49:00 -
[251]
some people suggested to me to post here about a possible bug :
I have some problem to understand the new market graph .
what does mean the values on the left ?
i have uploaded on eve-file a pick with a red circle here :
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.23.10.33.23.png
i remember that column was the prices .
the values were in order from low price --> high price .
what the meaning of this new values ?
thanks in advance .
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Eagle32
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:51:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Eagle32 on 23/08/2006 10:53:13 I won't repeat all the issues that have already been mentioned but I have one more to add.
Very minor issue:
On the world map the "My Agents" display has the same super blob effect that "Average pilots in space..." had a few months ago. Caldari space is just a huge green blob for me at the moment.
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:51:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Zlake Lost a BPO that was having a bit of PE research done on it. Petition filed.....we'll see 
I think they just removed the intra-regional option to check on Research Jobs
From Patchnotes:
Quote: The range filter in the Science and Industry Get Jobs panel now works correctly
Which stinks to be honest, as I need to travel several regions to find a Research Lab with an acceptable que .
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Evil RedEye
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:54:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Bero Tepesh Patch or not, I think a little more respect and consideration toward all PRESENT PAYING players would be greatly appreciated.
Too often changes and gameplay modifications are made thinking about the more players to come in the future and not about smooth gameplay of old players. I'm not talking about win 95/98/ME compatibility but general gameplay issues, and I'm getting tired of this.
  
oh boo fricken hoo if the game didnt change for the future we'd be stuck back in 2004 still just sorting bugs out, stop complaining. Most of this patch benefits PRESENT PLAYING PLAYERS anyway.
On a more positive note, eve is smooth and easy to read for me and its looking quite good :) nice patching guys \0/
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eVaLF
PMI
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:57:00 -
[255]
Edited by: eVaLF on 23/08/2006 10:59:57
Originally by: Honneamise some people suggested to me to post here about a possible bug : I have some problem to understand the new market graph . what does mean the values on the left ? i have uploaded on eve-file a pick with a red circle here : http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.23.10.33.23.png i remember that column was the prices . the values were in order from low price --> high price . what the meaning of this new values ? thanks in advance .
Simply the first digits of the price are truncated the programmer forgot there were expensive things :) |

Level4
Minmatar Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:59:00 -
[256]
Bug or Nerf ?
The display settings in the navigation map has an option "My Assets" Unfortunately if you have assets in several stations in the same system, the pop-up window only shows assets from 1 station,
I believe it used to show all assets in a system ( in all stations ) pre-patch.
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Honneamise
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:59:00 -
[257]
Originally by: eVaLF
Originally by: Honneamise some people suggested to me to post here about a possible bug : I have some problem to understand the new market graph . what does mean the values on the left ? i have uploaded on eve-file a pick with a red circle here : http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0608/2006.08.23.10.33.23.png i remember that column was the prices . the values were in order from low price --> high price . what the meaning of this new values ? thanks in advance .
Simply the first two digits of the price are truncated the programmer forgot there were expensive things :)
after some test i noticed that ;)
it refuse to print numbers > 9,999,999.99 !!!
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Ronin Reborn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:15:00 -
[258]
Clonejumped from a body with no implants into a body with full +3s. Implants not shown under augmentations tab in character screen, stats are correct and skill trains at implanted rate.
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:20:00 -
[259]
A little tip for those getting connection issues : yesterday when server was off you could autopatch yuor client with evepatch3913-4557-test.exe (~18.5 mb) this patch is not the right, the good one is evepatch3913-4557.exe (~15.5 mb) and if you patched with the -test you need to dwld the client (3913), reinstall and then update it to 4557. Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. |

J Frost
Gallente The Tafflington Trust
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:21:00 -
[260]
hmm.... says, i've got a minor problem here, but really bothers me a lot......
After the new patch has been implemented, multi-lingo support has been activated in Client. Yes, the problem comes with it. I'm a Chinese player with Chinese version of WinXP installed in my computer. The program automatically acknowleged my OS language, and changed the UI to Chinese.
However, the UI is not fully translated properly, and the appearance is.... umm..... let's say..... weird.... 
Chinese characters is not alphabetic. Every single slash means something and construct the character which can give u the meaning of totally different things. If your OS support multi-lingo or Chinese, u'll see the example below:
日 - means sun or day. (noun) 目 - means eye. (noun) 鸟 - means bird. (noun) 乌 - means black or dark (adjective)
To make Chinese characters displayed properly, it requires a REALLY clear type for the words. I know EVE uses 04 alike fonts for latin characters, but for Chinese, it requires Simsun, and AT LEASE 12px (or 9pt) with no filter (like sharpen / smooth in P.S.) and bold to make it clear visually. Or otherwise, everthing just screw up and made a mess in my chat channel.
Anyway, thanks god that I still can manually change the option from settings pannel, but still, it's really annoying when u see everything messed up on ur screen with characters of ur native language, right?
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Pfrundpaechter
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:21:00 -
[261]
Dont know if this has occured because of the update, but today i looted 2 Shadow Serpentis Webs. It looks like Stasis Webifier I has been replaced by Shadow Serpentis Stasis Webifier(same item, 10k range, new name). However, the REAL shadow web shows under the factions tab (with the 13k range).
Also looked into the Stasis Webifier I BPO: it states that it will build the shadow serpentis one. Naming gone wrong?
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Chiana Cala
Amarr Demonkeeper
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:25:00 -
[262]
I patched the game about 45 minutes ago (autopatch), and now I can't connect to the game.
Yes, I checked my eve folder and the downloaded patch is ~15.5mb, so it should be the right one according to things I have read here..
This is getting annoying.. already lost hours and hours of training!   |

Grymm Arann
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:27:00 -
[263]
Did the stats on any rats change at all? It seems I'm having a tougher time tanking angels now. I thought it was just me but a corp mate said the same.
Love the patch though, especially the quickness. The scanner is almost instantaneous even without overview settings checked. Nice job as far as I'm concerned. |

Lottt
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:28:00 -
[264]
Cannot login.
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Nelix Trist
Caldari Nostromo Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:29:00 -
[265]
For the next 34 min's, from the time of this post, CCP still have there daily downtime running. Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU |

Honneamise
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:31:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Lottt Cannot login.
11.00 - 12.00 Daily downtime
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Chiana Cala
Amarr Demonkeeper
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:31:00 -
[267]
D'oh.. I forgot there's a 2 hour time difference here now, not 1 as usual 
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Braaage
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:38:00 -
[268]
Undocumented Changes
POS Control Tower now shows the resistances of any hardeners online (NIIIIICE)
Bugs
Changing the column width on the Manage - Structures screen don't work (it just moves the line and doesn't adjust anything).
___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com
Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online |

Mariuz Draven
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:38:00 -
[269]
When I logged in earlier the map-screen & functions worked quicker than Justin Gatlin running away from a dope test.
Nice Job
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iEiClintcom
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:40:00 -
[270]
It seems to be running alot smoother than before , thanks team. 
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Kaar
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:41:00 -
[271]
Im told the client makes a sound when you reach the front of the connect queue. I play eve with sound off like most people, so I have no idea when I need to hit connect.
Prehaps a visual notice? or make it play the sound even if game audio is off.
---- <3 minnow
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handlebars
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:41:00 -
[272]
Ican't log in either, been 28 hours since i was able to log in...what really drives me nuts is this "We're up! We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience patch deployment may have caused. Note that minimal OS for Eve will be Windows 2000 SP2." TRANQUILLITY IS NOT UP!! is CCP mocking me deliberatly or what....and regular downtime scheduled to start in 30 minutes...no doubt servers will still be down when i return from work in 10 hours
oh yeah, and the petitions page of eve-online.com isn't working either
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:45:00 -
[273]
Edited by: Fantome on 23/08/2006 11:46:25
Originally by: handlebars Ican't log in either, been 28 hours since i was able to log in...what really drives me nuts is this "We're up! We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience patch deployment may have caused. Note that minimal OS for Eve will be Windows 2000 SP2." TRANQUILLITY IS NOT UP!! is CCP mocking me deliberatly or what....and regular downtime scheduled to start in 30 minutes...no doubt servers will still be down when i return from work in 10 hours
oh yeah, and the petitions page of eve-online.com isn't working either
daily DT .. 1100 / 1200 eve time ... so it's not scheduled to start in 30min but already started since 45 min 
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Grytok
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:48:00 -
[274]
Tested half an hour before DT and it feels good so far, but like said before there are some really annoying issues like >> Overview does not keep column sizes, always resize during jumping, which is really annoying <<.
But the worst thing is, that there are no courier-missions anymore 
BRING THEM BACK!!! Not with Kali, I want them back NOW 
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Nelix Trist
Caldari Nostromo Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:49:00 -
[275]
Quote: Downtime extended to 12:30 GMT,
Make that another 30 mins added to the Daily Downtime. Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU |

masty
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:50:00 -
[276]
this is really startin 2 annoy me! only became a payin member on monday and now this!!!! not impressed. fair play i no wit ammount of code and work that has 2 b done etc but COME ON! and that mess sayin "we're up" really bugs me 2! U's AINT! so after the down time will it b ready? ne updates? so happy i was training a skill that was 2 take sumting like a day and a half. im sure many ppl werent and i no that wud p*ss me off more
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Nelix Trist
Caldari Nostromo Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:52:00 -
[277]
Originally by: masty this is really startin 2 annoy me! only became a payin member on monday and now this!!!! not impressed. fair play i no wit ammount of code and work that has 2 b done etc but COME ON! and that mess sayin "we're up" really bugs me 2! U's AINT! so after the down time will it b ready? ne updates? so happy i was training a skill that was 2 take sumting like a day and a half. im sure many ppl werent and i no that wud p*ss me off more
These patch (Large Patch) days come once every 6 months if your lucky. So really for the ammount of stuff that comes with the patch, I think 24 hours (None playing time) is worth the wait. Emm?"Cant touch this" den der der dum, der dum der dum KILLING THE BUG'S, BEFORE THEY KILL YOU |

Ifhrd
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:55:00 -
[278]
ye courier mishes are a must have right away. Not all characters are geared for combat which means no mishes = no standings or Loyalty.
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Silenne Otsaku
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:59:00 -
[279]
i've noticed 2 things, on i love.
When i can't connect to play eve, i often work on my igb site ..
before this patch it was able to click on "news" and obtain the adresse bar to set my own page, now i can't ... maybe i willchange my home page (i'm sure it will not work:p)
but i've see a great feature ... tabbed browsing !!! (pray it's the same ingame and now no more swap between multiple igb site :p) Nahh no sign for now :p |

Gurgeh Despar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:13:00 -
[280]
The server ran very quick earlier, so good work on that. Shame I lost my storyline mission though... it just wasn't there when I logged in!
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:18:00 -
[281]
Im finding everything is running ALOT faster now..
Opening/closing windows, cargo, hangers, cans all seem to be much quicker. And I do like the resists on the towers being shown now too.
Haven't played with market yet.
Over all, good job..
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
Trading 101 |

Wicked Princess
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:24:00 -
[282]
Hi,
A previous issue has cropped up on the Vista platform. When opening the client, I receive the following error message:
DirectX 9.0 detected but this application needs 9.0b. Click Yes to continue, but the application may not run. Click No to go to the support web page where you can download the latest DirectX runtime files.
Previously we were able to get around this by edting ver = (9,0,"") to read: ver = (9,0,"c") under the GetDXVersion() in the autoexec.py file. However, I checked, and "c" is already there. Was there another change made in terms of checking for DirectX > 9.0? Vista has DirectX 10, so not sure why it's not picking this up. :)
Thanks for any assistance you can provide!
-WP
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Commander Spectre
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:35:00 -
[283]
Why don't you guys just bring back the cold war font? It was very clear, very easy to read, and the best thing was it fit perfectly in all the places it was ment to in the game. The new font still looks crappy and doesn't fit at all.
And here is a suggestion: Make a slider to adjust the volume on the warp sound. I find it to be extremely loud and anoying myself, but let the user adjust it to thier own preference or even turn it off.
Also some EAX adjustments would be really nice so that you can make it work on different speaker settings so the user can match it to thier sound card better.
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Gungankllr
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:35:00 -
[284]
Starting up!!! 
Hidden in this signature is a secret message.
I like pie.
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General Lilost
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:35:00 -
[285]
Hello Devs, Don't have time to log in again to reproduce, but I have a bug to report.
Basics steps: Open industry window. Go to BPs. Click on the bottom (I think) station where you have BPs stored. In some cases, the station will be duplicated and then continue to be duplicated if you try to expand/contract the station. Unfortunately, BPs were not duplicated permanently . Closing and reopening the window seemed to reset it for me.
I remember I had a nearly identical with the people/places window a long time ago but haven't noticed that happening recently.
I like the improved UI and network whatevermastuffits. The increased video speed and lower lag is really noticeable. Thanks for that
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Lokan Dohar
Caldari White Nova Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:38:00 -
[286]
Market History only showing to the millions mark, drops 10's, 100's etc. above a million.
Ship Assembly arrays can no longer deliver to ship maintence hanger.
Selected object box is too big, whole extra row of "space" that is unnecessary and puts all overview buttons on the "frame edge" making them hard to see.
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Neovenator
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:39:00 -
[287]
Edited by: Neovenator on 23/08/2006 12:40:15 Geeez,
you guys @ccp could have ask me if i want to install a german version of the patch. I am german but that doesnt mean i want to play the game in german language. Autopatcher automatically checked my OS and found out, it¦s german. It automatically downloaded the german patch ;-(
Is there any way to change the language ingame or do i have to download and install the english version by hand?
Also the german Translation is in a kinda beta state. Mission descriptions are party english/german. Not a big deal but it shows the translation is still not finished at all.
The game is really unfamiliar to me now coz i am used to the english client. Would be nice if Autopatcher ASKS for the wanted language in the future.
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Obsequious Woe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:40:00 -
[288]
What a great new feature ... they've built in a new DDOS into the client.
Every 5 seconds my client is getting the uptime of the server... So at a guess that means everyone is ...
Great ... a game that already suffers from load / log on issues .. and they build a Distributed Denial Of Service into their very own game client.
I'm loving these new features...
OW
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Breaka
The first genesis Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:40:00 -
[289]
I still cannot login. Status : Unknown is what it reads and when I try to log in it says "unable to connect". I have Windows XP so I meet the minimum Windows 2000 SP 2 requirement. I see other people are having the same issue. Is there any way to get this looked at save posting in here? Because posting in here is obviously not working.
Myriad Alliance is recruiting! Contact Breaka or Percival Diddly for info or join channel Myriad in-game. |

FawKa
Gallente Nova Elements The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:43:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Neovenator Edited by: Neovenator on 23/08/2006 12:40:15 Geeez,
you guys @ccp could have ask me if i want to install a german version of the patch. I am german but that doesnt mean i want to play the game in german language. Autopatcher automatically checked my OS and found out, it¦s german. It automatically downloaded the german patch ;-(
Is there any way to change the language ingame or do i have to download and install the english version by hand?
Also the german Translation is in a kinda beta state. Mission descriptions are party english/german. Not a big deal but it shows the translation is still not finished at all.
The game is really unfamiliar to me now coz i am used to the english client. Would be nice if Autopatcher ASKS for the wanted language in the future.
Yes, there is a way to change the language again.
ESC > sprache (or whatever its called ) > english > reboot client
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=369662&page=1#10 Link to banner |
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sniper luke
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:44:00 -
[291]
updated to the new version, played it for a few hours, nice little touches i see, one bug tho, I was in 0.3 sec mining in a barge and i jetted a can of jaspet, and the can didnt show up on overview, even though the rat killed cans were in overview, i refreshed overview and it still didnt show up. I had to move the barge and refresh overview again and chage from distance near to distance far, then back to close to get the can that was 400m away to show up. Also some of the 16k rats, pop in and out of overview, one min there 40km away then they are not in overview, then they are back in overview at 3000m and shooting the crap out of me. But so far patch looks ok, and only minor bugs.
thanks for the hard work ccp. regards Luke
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Neovenator
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:44:00 -
[292]
Ah, found the Language Issue ;-) Nevermind. BTW: Its up again.
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axels2000
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:46:00 -
[293]
Edited by: axels2000 on 23/08/2006 12:48:31 I have 2 computers on which I run Eve. One patched without a problem, everything works as expected. Second computer after patch brings up start-up EVE-Online splashscreen and then goes away, and then nothing happens. Process list shows:
CCAPP.EXE CCEVTMGR.EXE and CCSETMGR.EXE
sitting in memory and having 0% CPU load.
I deleted cache folder, no changes. Now downloading entire client to see if this helps.
Both computers are XP with SP2
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:48:00 -
[294]
Ive noticed that there is a new button when having someone selected in the overview - Start Conversation. Unfortunantly it seems designed to talk only with agents. I really with this button would work on players as well, because its much easier to start a conversation that way than to right click -> Pilot -> Start conversation.
Just a suggestion...if at all possible, make it work with players as well.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:48:00 -
[295]
up again and working ok so far ....
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Rimhawk
Caldari Winds of Vengeance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:49:00 -
[296]
Minor graphical glitch:
The counter on items (displayed in icon mode with a text below it) seems to be a bit off. The lower part of the counter number overlaps the text. There is also a light grey stripe below each icon now. It looks like there is something wrong with either the icon spacing of the text below the icon.
Otherwise the new font looks great. Rimhawk V8 Interceptors |

Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:52:00 -
[297]
Originally by: Miss Xuan When looking at items in you cargo or hangar the little box at the bottom (which contains the number of items in that stack) is a bit too big for the icon. This means the bottom of the icon cuts through some numbers.
Not a major issue but thought you might like to know.
As far as I can see this is not a bug, but just a change in graphical design of the stacknumbering. I like it.
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Breaka
The first genesis Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:53:00 -
[298]
Well, if it's up again, then I still have an issue. Status : Unknown and unable to connect. Running Windows XP.
Myriad Alliance is recruiting! Contact Breaka or Percival Diddly for info or join channel Myriad in-game. |

Breaka
The first genesis Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:56:00 -
[299]
Ok well, my firewall was blocking it since it changed. Thanks to whoever pointed out that fix because now I no longer get "status unknown"
Myriad Alliance is recruiting! Contact Breaka or Percival Diddly for info or join channel Myriad in-game. |

Blind Man
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:56:00 -
[300]
escrow thing still isnt fixed, neither is the other 'problem'
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Kelso Bluebane
Minmatar Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:56:00 -
[301]
Can't open up any of the agent offers screens. Double clicking or read details doesn't work
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Sera Tinoga
Tinoga Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:56:00 -
[302]
Originally by: kieron Disappearing overivew settings are known and will be looked at when the Devs return to the office in a couple hours.
This issue has been known before (as I reported it) and occured regularly with major updates. Never with any explanation.
What makes you think that "looking at it" will make the deleted settings magically reappear (copying back the .dat files will just shred them again)?
My main's account just run out today and I think it'll stay like that for a while. So no more comments on the patch from me..  |

iqplayer
Caldari Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:57:00 -
[303]
Originally by: axels2000 Edited by: axels2000 on 23/08/2006 12:48:31 I have 2 computers on which I run Eve. One patched without a problem, everything works as expected. Second computer after patch brings up start-up EVE-Online splashscreen and then goes away, and then nothing happens. Process list shows:
CCAPP.EXE CCEVTMGR.EXE and CCSETMGR.EXE
sitting in memory and having 0% CPU load.
I deleted cache folder, no changes. Now downloading entire client to see if this helps.
Both computers are XP with SP2
Those 3 programs are part of Norton Internet Security - so nothing to do with Eve.
However, I did notice on my system that the patch caused Norton Firewall to recognize it as a new program, and prompt for firewall configuration. Make sure you allow it if/when it prompts.
Another issue some had with the test client was their version of DirectX - might want to make sure you've got the latest version/updates.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:58:00 -
[304]
Hurray! You guys fixed that annoying graphical bug behind projectile modules (the ugly transparent square thingy). Can't see any mention of it in the patch notes but it's definitely gone.
Minmatar is fun to fly again! 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:09:00 -
[305]
OK, found a bug with drones not orbiting.
Reproduce:
1. Release drones (i use 4 lights and 1 medium in the test). 2. MWD in a straight line so you outrun them. When you are 10 km from them, click "Return and orbit" and then stop your ship. 3. The drones will approach your ship, but get stuck in a blob about 2300m from the ship and not orbit. Clicking "Return and orbit" many times doesnt help anything. Basicly you have to click "return to drone bay" and then release them again to get them to orbit.
I dont know if this worked before the patch, but i think so... didnt notice it before, and now i noticed it right away.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Jin Steele
Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:12:00 -
[306]
BUG: Alliance ticker not showing on overview. I can see that a person is in an alliance in game, but the overview column for it is blank.
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Tahmael Shaido
Minmatar Galactic Trade Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:15:00 -
[307]
As a veteran of several online patches (I used to work in banking networks) I just have to say, phenomenal job! Yes the patch time went over. Yes there were issues with the patch download and some code issues. But to deploy an entire code branch in 16 hours? You guys get to wear the big red "S". Thanks for all the hard work. --- After things go from bad to worse, the cycle will repeat itself. |

Klippa
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:17:00 -
[308]
I hope this hasn't been posted yet - only read the first and last page and looks mostly like whiners, no genuine bug reports. So:
When installing BPO's for production, the job fails because 'you don't have enough of xxx material'. I most certainly do have xxx of the material, in fact I have xxx^6 of it.
This happens for all BPO's, T1 and T2. Could devs look into it when you get a sec please?
I'm installing from corp hanger and pointing to the corp 'material' hanger for input and 'marketing' hangar for output (as always).
Please let me know if you require more detailed information.
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axels2000
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:19:00 -
[309]
Originally by: iqplayer
Originally by: axels2000 Edited by: axels2000 on 23/08/2006 12:48:31 I have 2 computers on which I run Eve. One patched without a problem, everything works as expected. Second computer after patch brings up start-up EVE-Online splashscreen and then goes away, and then nothing happens. Process list shows:
CCAPP.EXE CCEVTMGR.EXE and CCSETMGR.EXE
sitting in memory and having 0% CPU load.
I deleted cache folder, no changes. Now downloading entire client to see if this helps.
Both computers are XP with SP2
Those 3 programs are part of Norton Internet Security - so nothing to do with Eve.
However, I did notice on my system that the patch caused Norton Firewall to recognize it as a new program, and prompt for firewall configuration. Make sure you allow it if/when it prompts.
Another issue some had with the test client was their version of DirectX - might want to make sure you've got the latest version/updates.
Downloaded full client. It worked.
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Aelita
Minmatar CHON
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:19:00 -
[310]
FONTS! Still not fixed 0,O,D looks same. i, l looks same and they are still blur.
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Seehrak
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:22:00 -
[311]
Well done! looks like a good patch this, performance is way better now, logging in is very quick which is nice :) also seems more responsive.
Only had a little fly around but seemed ok to me.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:22:00 -
[312]
Another factory bug: seems the system thinks I have 10 slots running when I hit 9 slots of active jobs... won't let me install a 10th production run ----------------------
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Lord Kalreen
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:23:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Weps Patch issues are to be placed here.
Well, got an issue.
Try to buy an item from the market and look at the 'buy' screen.....
And this was on the testserver as well.
I hope it's just me....
its not just you i had the same issue with my buy screen and also sell screen it shows some but not all the text and info needed.
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lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:24:00 -
[314]
I cant use my mobile laboratory, the game stucks during the quote calculation so i can't do any research. Have you got the same problem ?
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Lord Kalreen
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:27:00 -
[315]
oh and the issue with the warp/clock sound missing when comming in and out of warp. leave it off no one realy likes it and it gives away your possition when enter a system. that doesn't help with pvp at all leave the sound off.
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lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:30:00 -
[316]
Originally by: lpha centurion I cant use my mobile laboratory, the game stucks during the quote calculation so i can't do any research. Have you got the same problem ?
I think it is a lag problem no ?
Originally by: Lord Kalreen oh and the issue with the warp/clock sound missing when comming in and out of warp. leave it off no one realy likes it and it gives away your possition when enter a system. that doesn't help with pvp at all leave the sound off.
No, the sound is realist, activate it ! 
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Hump Gooner
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:32:00 -
[317]
I have updated both clients on my system (win XP SP1) and both are running stable with no (clientside) problems so far. If the few glitches (overview, fonts, etc...) are ironed out, i give CCP two thumbs up for this deployment.
Back to the patch-front ;)
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Anade Deltha
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:37:00 -
[318]
Any Particular reason why skill prices went up? 
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Jonask'ri
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:42:00 -
[319]
For those people who think they have missing BPOs -
The Advanced Options part of the Science and Industry screen has range limited to maximum of region only...
Take off advanced options and look again. ----- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
Redwolf > No Solar System can be found with 'c_ck' in the beginning its name. Jonask'ri |

G Dabak
Magellanic Itg GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:43:00 -
[320]
Is text selection ever going to be fixed?
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:45:00 -
[321]
well as i said here... hers one thing that REALLY makes me cry :P http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=382825
in short... the 2 new buttons when clicking players that move the orbit and keep at range buttso back.... WHY? those 2 new buttons are utterly useless.... id like to see them at the end of the button line :) TY
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Rimhawk
Caldari Winds of Vengeance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:45:00 -
[322]
Another problem I found: I can no longer set a default warp-in distance; Even if I set default warp-in distance to something else, it always remains at 15... :S . Rimhawk Winds of Vengeance (W8V) |

Seakon
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:50:00 -
[323]
Please bring back Courier Missions ASAP!
These missions are the main reason I play EVE, and the main thing I concentrate on while I'm ingame. What good is it to offer thousands of strictly kill missions?
Two accounts with nothing to do = no reason to bother being here...
Bad move CCP! 
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Oburn
Caldari Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:55:00 -
[324]
Just wanted to say the UI seems more snappy. Opening a dropdown of my assets with a hanger full of gear (100+ items) would normally lag a bit before opening. Very snappy now. Market seems to browse faster. We came out the other end of this patch with some scrapes and scratches but stronger in the end. Great job.
If you melt dry ice can you swim in it and not get wet? |

marioman
Caldari Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:57:00 -
[325]
Custom Playlists no longer work, I hope this is a bug and u really didnt waste time on coding it so it wouldnt work, since there is no point not to have ur own music (and no blah blah use winamp/wmp crap either)
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Brad Thorn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:57:00 -
[326]
Courier missions are a necessity in this game! I suggest a few hotfixes to return the to EVE immediately. Those of us that rely on these missions to earn our isk are unfairly affected by this change! Please bring them back CCP... |

N'irrti
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:59:00 -
[327]
So far I like what i have seen. EVE runs faster and smoother, couldn't find any bugs so far but I'll check on this when I get home from work later :D
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari Mordu's Elite
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:59:00 -
[328]
Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 23/08/2006 14:00:15
When I try to place a sell order for an item via Market the descrption text appears *vertically* in the sell order screen. Also, the regional average price and the difference between it and my own sell price is not displayed. I can however, still place the sell order without problems.
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Cletus Graeme
Caldari Mordu's Elite
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:03:00 -
[329]
I'm not sure what generated this exception but it appeared shortly after i redocked at a station after docking and forgetting something.
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EXCEPTION #34 logged at 23/08/2006 14:54:31 Unhandled exception in TaskletExt Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:/Builds/dragon_patch/common/lib\bluepy.py", line 19, in __call__ File "C:/Builds/dragon_patch/client/script/ui/shared/userentry.py", line 440, in Kill AttributeError: CheckPos
This function was called with arguments:
self : <BlueWrapper: triui.UIContainer>
Additionally, the local namespace contained:
par : <Instance of 'UIWindow', (destroyed=0, name="desktop", parent="None")>
eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, clientID:0, mutating:0, locationid:60003925, corprole:0x0, userid:1042076, languageID:EN, regionid:10000016, constellationid:20000199, role:0x3, charid:157089606, corpid:663261649, gangrole:0, shipid:914789816, stationid:60003925, solarsystemid2:30001363, address:195.137.108.56:9939, userType:1, hqID:60003334, rolesAtAll:0x0, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x0, rolesAtOther:0x0, genderID:1, bloodlineID:1, raceID:1)>
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:08:00 -
[330]
"To make Chinese characters displayed properly, it requires a REALLY clear type for the words. I know EVE uses 04 alike fonts for latin characters, but for Chinese, it requires Simsun, and AT LEASE 12px (or 9pt) with no filter (like sharpen / smooth in P.S.) and bold to make it clear visually. Or otherwise, everthing just screw up and made a mess in my chat channel."
Hmm this is perhaps a good thing. I mean it in the sense, if poor font rendering is negatively affecting not only the western font readability ... if there's one thing that can maybe make CCP overhaul their font rendering, it's collective complaints from Chinese player base about problems they're having with the fonts, in their beta -.o
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Dei
Crystaline Green
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:10:00 -
[331]
Ok, had a look around, one thing stood out most...the improved performance (yay).
I did come across one bug though, small one, but still a bug...the CONCORD billboards don't show their text correctly, and I don't know whether it was meant to happen, but all associated buttons like Look At and approach are all gone Anyhoo, here's a pic:
Linkage
Also, courier missions are coming back soon, read the dev blogs and you would know that.
Oh, before I end my agent offers work, but I didn't check before DT, just though I'd let you know. 
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Neovenator
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:10:00 -
[332]
Bugs on my side:
Warp Sound: It disappeared completely.
Overview damaged: When i name a can for example "Neos Stuff" it doesn¦t appear with that name in Overview and still shows "Cargo Container". Only when i close and reopen the Overview it shows the correct Name for the can.
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Helmut 314
Amarr J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:23:00 -
[333]
Looks ok so far, performance seems a lot better.
Found one MAJOR annoyance though: Skilltraininbg time left is not displayed anymore. The skillpoints tick upwards nicely, but theres no timer. Makes planning skilltraining very hard. Please make it a priority fix.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:28:00 -
[334]
Originally by: Neovenator Overview damaged: When i name a can for example "Neos Stuff" it doesn¦t appear with that name in Overview and still shows "Cargo Container". Only when i close and reopen the Overview it shows the correct Name for the can.
That's been around for ages, I don't think it was introduced by this patch.
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:30:00 -
[335]
Acceleration gates in missions are invisible. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:30:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Helmut 314 Looks ok so far, performance seems a lot better.
Found one MAJOR annoyance though: Skilltraininbg time left is not displayed anymore. The skillpoints tick upwards nicely, but theres no timer. Makes planning skilltraining very hard. Please make it a priority fix.
Works for me. Try clearing your cache... always useful after a big update like this anyway.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:31:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Helmut 314 Looks ok so far, performance seems a lot better.
Found one MAJOR annoyance though: Skilltraininbg time left is not displayed anymore. The skillpoints tick upwards nicely, but theres no timer. Makes planning skilltraining very hard. Please make it a priority fix.
works here, mybe relogging or clearing cashe(sp) helps :D
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rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:31:00 -
[338]
Give us a bunch of fonts to choose from.
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:33:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Tachy Automatic coloumn resizing in the overview is a Very Bad IdeaÖ.
I second this. The overview column with keeps changing without apparent reason.
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Neovenator
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:39:00 -
[340]
Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Neovenator Overview damaged: When i name a can for example "Neos Stuff" it doesn¦t appear with that name in Overview and still shows "Cargo Container". Only when i close and reopen the Overview it shows the correct Name for the can.
That's been around for ages, I don't think it was introduced by this patch.
I didnt have it before.
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skygrazer
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:39:00 -
[341]
too lazy to read thru and see if posted already but... pre-dragon, when one set a manual waro to distance (eg 17500), when right click menu to warp to celestial object, the top option was the same as your default set warp to distance (ie:17500). You could also gang warp to that distance.
Now, even though you set a default warp to option and can warp to at that distance using the selected item in overview, you no longer have that distance in the right click menu and cannot gang warp to selected distance.... its this a display bug or can one only warp to set distances on right click menu...comments?
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Vinka Iceni
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:44:00 -
[342]
I'd just like to say that post-patch the Eve client runs far more smoothly on my laptop with the UI being far quicker. I can actually run a depth buffer now and still have almost 10fps more than I did before - I don't know what you did, and possibly neither do you, but I like it!
I can actually do simple kill missions now without my laptop showing me the finger!
Just have to go home tonight and see what its like on my games rig!
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THX 1138
Minmatar ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:47:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Hoshi Acceleration gates in missions are invisible.
This began a few weeks ago on selected missions (not all). Only the icon is visible. Not sure if it's intentional. -*-*-*-*-
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Akira Zendragon
Caldari Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:51:00 -
[344]
PLEASE!! Let me choose fonts... Why did you change the font file?
I CAN'T PLAY LIKE THIS, IT HURTS MY EYES!
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Craminu
Gallente Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:53:00 -
[345]
just an note that we wanna have back some courier npc mission :) we like em, and its sad to se them go away for an while. now my standing will stick until they come back(proberly wont take long) i hope.
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Mephysto

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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:53:00 -
[346]
I recommend people read through the known issues regularly, as I have been updating this throughout the day, and will continue to do so.
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Sypher313
VentureCorp CORE.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:54:00 -
[347]
good patch, some bugs but meh, makes life interesting out there. 
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Peter McGregor
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:55:00 -
[348]
Edited by: Peter McGregor on 23/08/2006 14:55:14 Not sure if anyone mentioned this already, but this morning I noticed that when I was switching skills, the Skill icon on the icon bar started flashing, with a tooltip saying that there's no skill in training. I switched them directly - did not abort training first, just picked a new skill while the other was still in training.
It's no biggie but I guess it wasn't intentional.
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:55:00 -
[349]
Edited by: Mack Dorgeans on 23/08/2006 14:55:38 Sorry for not slogging through the whole thread, but I'm guessing the escrow inspection bug with BPOs and BPCs mislabeled under the "Original" column has been reported? It looks like the escrow inspection is following the blueprint show info that labels prints as either Copy - Yes or Copy - No. As a result, BPOs in escrow appear to be BPCs and vice versa, giving scammers even more tricks to try.
If you're shopping for prints on escrow, MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE RUNS COLUMN to see if the print is a BPO or BPC.
EDIT: just read known issues. My bad for posting. Still, it's good to remind people.
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moroti
Yakuza Corp R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:00:00 -
[350]
Accepting a player made courier mission gives containers named UI_CHARSEL_DESTINATION rather than the actual destination of the package.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:04:00 -
[351]
I clone jumped out of my ship, traveled back to the station it was in, and when I jump back into the ship all the modules are deactivated. I don't think this is intentional. Not like it's critical either, but it's a bug nonetheless.
Also, when clone jumping with items/ships/cargo bay open, they don't get updated on clone jump. You have to close and re-open them after clone jumping so they show the correct contents. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me! |

Armand Paher
Caldari The Blood Roses
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:08:00 -
[352]
This is prob already been mentioned but it's one in the morning and i logged cause I was nodding of and I'll be damned if I'm reading 12 pages of game bugs when I can't stay awake to play the game.
Anyway, received a agent offer sometime between when I got on today and when I logged an hour before the server went down for patching.
when I hit read details in the journal nothing happens. If I ask the agent he says that he needs a doctor and that a exception error has occured.
ps WHoot! Popped my forum cherry.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:09:00 -
[353]
Edited by: Tareen Kashaar on 23/08/2006 15:09:18
Originally by: Peter McGregor Not sure if someone mentioned this already, but this morning I noticed that when I was switching skills, the Skill icon on the icon bar started flashing, with a tooltip saying that there's no skill in training. I switched them directly - did not abort training first, just picked a new skill while the other was still in training.
Confirmed, had the same. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me! |

Auduna
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:11:00 -
[354]
The ALLY column in the overview doesnt show anything.
Also recently the (one) ExeFile process likes to hog 85-95% CPU and 220MB of my ram. I used to be able to run multiple clients... now im unable to as its impossible to even click.
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Trracer
Nos4a2 Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:16:00 -
[355]
Edited by: Trracer on 23/08/2006 15:15:49
Originally by: Armand Paher This is prob already been mentioned but it's one in the morning and i logged cause I was nodding of and I'll be damned if I'm reading 12 pages of game bugs when I can't stay awake to play the game.
Anyway, received a agent offer sometime between when I got on today and when I logged an hour before the server went down for patching.
when I hit read details in the journal nothing happens. If I ask the agent he says that he needs a doctor and that a exception error has occured.
ps WHoot! Popped my forum cherry.
Yup, have the same prob atm.
Nos4a2 Inc, freelance corp, now recruiting
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:17:00 -
[356]
I right-clicked on an agent offer in my journal and clicked Read Details. Several seconds went by and nothing happened. Suddenly I get turbo spammed with error messages that rapid-fire all over my screen. When I clicked to close one, the client crashed me to desktop.
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Stephar
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:17:00 -
[357]
Good: Game runs a lot smoother!
Bad: Courier missions...
No major problems here, and for the most part, I'm a happy post-patch camper.
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Silenne Otsaku
Amarr Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:18:00 -
[358]
Somes IGB Bugs :
=> Forging an evemail with "::" in the subject cause the pre-fill area to be empty. => Right click on a link "#" => Open in new Tab don't open the page in a new tab. => Setting "border=0" on a table does nothing, border are visible all times And i love the new button face !
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GusGorman
Caldari Templars of Space
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:20:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Armand Paher This is prob already been mentioned but it's one in the morning and i logged cause I was nodding of and I'll be damned if I'm reading 12 pages of game bugs when I can't stay awake to play the game.
Anyway, received a agent offer sometime between when I got on today and when I logged an hour before the server went down for patching.
when I hit read details in the journal nothing happens. If I ask the agent he says that he needs a doctor and that a exception error has occured.
ps WHoot! Popped my forum cherry.
got the same problem....and client crashed when trying to view the mission info in the journal. also, no sound when in warp drive anymore.
apart from that...nice 
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Zafon
Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:23:00 -
[360]
Not overly impressed with the lack of courier missions and the vagueness around when they might return. For more info this is a good thread here.
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Sky Marshal
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:27:00 -
[361]
An ISD forward me to this topic, so I give a copy of my annoyance with the patch :
Any hope to see in the future an option to reduce the header size of the subwindows, like the Items, Cargo Containers, etc... ?
I see that the header (who give us the capacity and few options for listing of items) have been expanded, nearly 2X the normal size.
For nothing. I don't see any new options in the space taken. So now, when the items give 2 lines of objects when adapted, now it is less, I have to expand his size...
This is also the case of the Character Sheet etc...
This is annoying when we have a 1024*768 resolution. I had already some difficulties to manage many subwindows of Eve with the lack of space, but I guess that it will be worse now.
Eve Online requires 2K SP2, but also a 1280*960 minimum also ?
My poor 6800 will not appreciate. I have only 30 FPS in space with my actual resolution...
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Runt Mcgoire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:27:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Auduna The ALLY column in the overview doesnt show anything.
Also recently the (one) ExeFile process likes to hog 85-95% CPU and 220MB of my ram. I used to be able to run multiple clients... now im unable to as its impossible to even click.
Works fine here:
1 client CPU appx 30-40%, 155M 2 Client (2nd) CPU and mem about same.
Non focus client CPU drops to apprx 10%
Total CPU for both is between 60-80%, 300M or so for memory (A64 3200/ 2 GB RAM / 7800GT / 1280*1024*24+8 win FR 40ish / 1024*768*24+8+soft sounds win FR 60ish on second monitor).
Monitors have a combined res of 2560*1024*32.
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Liquid Vision
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:28:00 -
[363]
Still trying to be jammed when I've left a deadspace complex and am slow-boating to the stargate. Sorry if this has alrdy been posted.
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Cerys Magente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:35:00 -
[364]
Some minor UI annoyances:
- the chat icon is so large that it obscures the top right hand corner of the chat window - the status bars under an acquired target seem to have expanded and have become rather obtrusive - is there a way to customise them and reduce them in size?
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Andrymeda
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:35:00 -
[365]
If you sort by type in a can that has blueprints of any type, the non-blueprint items take on the image of the blueprints. This has been around for a while and the link to known issues does not appear to work on the machine. So apologies if that has been reported.
On the new overview, if the column for name included the corp ticker as part of its string, it no longer shows. On a similar vein, please don't update the overview until one closes the settings dialog. Causes a lag on some options. Update all changes at once is preferable.
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Derran
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:38:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Tas Devil
Originally by: Derran
Originally by: Tas Devil Edited by: Tas Devil on 23/08/2006 03:04:00
Originally by: Khargos
Originally by: Derran Edited by: Derran on 23/08/2006 02:58:25 Why, oh why, were courier missions removed? Now what is the difference between the different divisions if they all give combat missions?
On a more selfish note, because they were all changed to combat mission, I just totally wasted 20 days training my industrial ship skill to 5 for nothing as my intention was to do these missions while my alt can do other things which was another reason I got a 2nd system for. Yet again another change made by CCP that totally wasted training time on a skill I will no longer be using. If I had known far enough ahead of time, I would have switched to Astrogeology 5 to just do mining. I think I now have 5 million skill points, and around 6 months of time, wasted because of another major change that was done. Will it ever end?
Agreeing with this, Make replacing these missions a high priority CCP please.
Oveur has clearly explained why these missions were removed and what will happen next to them...they aren't gone for good... its neither a bug nor a feature...its a transition ...so really there is no need to whine about it.
He did? Where? When?
The wound is still fresh because I had only just trained Gallente Industrial to 5 and now it was for nothing and who knows when this 'transition' is going to be complete. This isn't the first time I felt cheated over some major switchover and got stuck with totally wasted skill points. Over the course of 3 1/2 years,I just rolled with the punches but this is just getting really old.
check the dev blogs ... here ...
So on August 21st they announced it and August 22nd they deploy. Well that's... fair. Not.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:40:00 -
[367]
show my corp members in space feature of the map shows people who are NOT in my corp, people in my corp who are offline, and none of the people in my corp who are online.
system visit count seems like it was disabled back in december, not sure if it was intentional, but was a nice feature.
Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Valeria Crossroads
Caldari Terra Incognita Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:43:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Cletus Graeme Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 23/08/2006 14:00:15
When I try to place a sell order for an item via Market the descrption text appears *vertically* in the sell order screen. Also, the regional average price and the difference between it and my own sell price is not displayed. I can however, still place the sell order without problems.
Had the same problem. "Reset to default window positions" worked for me. (escape, reset setting tab)
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Krell Vashari
Caldari The Ghost Riders Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:49:00 -
[369]
'Max Targetting Range' is unreadable in the fittings dropdown window.
Haven't noticed anyone else mentioning it, I apologise if I am repeating what someone else has said
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taupehat
Minmatar Taupe Hat Systems
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:49:00 -
[370]
God, enough whining about courier missions already. They'll come back when they do. I for one don't miss the old standby "Take this janitor 30 hops through 0.2 in 25 minutes, and in addition to the 24k ISK, I'll give you a unit of livestock! Hurry up now!" crap. Yes, it does make all the mission agents offer combat now, but that only means I might use some of my higher-quality administration agents now...
At least, until CCP does a hotfix and suddenly she wants me to move 3 units of cast-iron rubbish through a series of gatecamps again... Take off every 'Zig' !! |
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Liinn
Harbour Rats Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:50:00 -
[371]
Not a real bug just an anoying change.
In the station u have 4 buttons in the bottom right corner.
- Rent Office - Move HQ Here - Corp Hangar - Deliveries
The top 2 shows on one line above the second two. When u are playing in window mode and have the window set to same size as your screen, the bottom part of the UI dont show (They drop below the screen). This is due to the windows bar at the top.
Before, Corp hangar, was on the top row. Now its in the bottom row and therefore outside your screen. Before it didnt matter so much as the buttons disaperaing were none u usualy used. Now with Corp hangar is very anoying.
Best would be if "corp hangar" and "deliveries" was on the top row as they are use most. Renting an office and moving the HQ is not anything i do on daily basis.
(U can drag in the windows bar so the top goes out of the screen instead and show the button that way, but by doing that, u also bring back windows start button and the bar with it.)
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Kylania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:50:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Derran So on August 21st they announced it and August 22nd they deploy. Well that's... fair. Not.
Nope, you should read more often before complaining about things. On Aug 17th the patch was officially announced. On Aug 18th the Patch Notes went up which included the "Many missions have been retired as they use code that is now obsolete. This includes almost all the courier missions." comment.
This sparked 4 pages of comments and several other locked threads about the issue. It's also why the dev blog was made because there were questions about the removal. So you had nearly a week notice about this issue. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap | CCG Card Lookup |

Valeria Crossroads
Caldari Terra Incognita Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:54:00 -
[373]
Next free time column in science and industry/installations does not sort properly. Example:
1 day 15 hours 18 days 2 days 20 hours 25 days Now Now
etc
Days or hours are ignored and free slots at at the bottom instead of the top.
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Feasd
Freelancer Union
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:55:00 -
[374]
It is possible to dock after placing a cyno field.
Once you have docked, the cyno field stays and is still useable well beyond their normal time limit, therefore providing effectively free cyno fields. |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:56:00 -
[375]
Coffee break!
(when devs reach this post they take a break and continue later)

--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Suzuna Taki
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:57:00 -
[376]
Please bring back the NPC courier missions...
These missions are necessary. What good is it to completely wipe one career path?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:03:00 -
[377]
Originally by: inSpirAcy
Originally by: Neovenator Overview damaged: When i name a can for example "Neos Stuff" it doesn¦t appear with that name in Overview and still shows "Cargo Container". Only when i close and reopen the Overview it shows the correct Name for the can.
That's been around for ages, I don't think it was introduced by this patch.
But it was fixed before and rebroken with this patch, as has happened with at least something every patch that I can remember. CM/QA 4tw.
Koronos
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Cassandra Collier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:05:00 -
[378]
I want the courier missions back too!
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:07:00 -
[379]
Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 23/08/2006 16:09:36 The hotkey assigned to autopilot no longer activates it while in station:
if that is intended (afk-nerf): Fix the desire to play the game afk instead of the ability to play the game afk. You have no way to police a macro-based solution (think logitech keyboard, perfectly legal to bind f1-f8 to one key) that sends the hotkey command after a delay.
Liinn, use ShiftWindow. First entry in google. I recommend using a custom macro though, less overhead.
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Gli Liphon
Caldari The Black Sword
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:09:00 -
[380]
i'm sure last night was a total headache for all of you. a HUGE thanks for getting everything back up and running. i can't imagine doing maintenance on a production server with 20k+ users staring over my shoulder asking "are we there yet?!" you guys definitely put up with a lot from all of us...
can't wait to get in tonight and see how everything looks!
go have a few pints and get some rest... :D _________________
Gli Liphon CEO - The Black Sword |
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Valeria Crossroads
Caldari Terra Incognita Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:09:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Cassandra Collier I want the courier missions back too!
Signed!!!
I also now have a char doing nothing now. I really do not understand why the effort was taken to replace kill missions but at the same time the courier missions were not.
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speckled
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:10:00 -
[382]
After emptying my cargo in station and filling it up with a few bits and bobs did not display correct value of space used till i undocked.
Would be nice if courier mission replacement was a priority as soon as patch is stable
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Dezzereth
Space Invaders
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:11:00 -
[383]
Whoever had the "glorious idea" to add that white bar to the bottom of the icons, so that you get eye cancer when looking at a hanger full of items, or your cargohold?
With every patch the readability of EVE worsens, Don't you think it should be the other way around? The font changes and several UI changes were and still ARE really annoying, but this latest "masterpiece" is truly wrecking my eyesight... I get a headache by just looking at my hangar for a few seconds. Combined with the "astonishing", unreadable font, this really kicks my motivation to log into EVE right into the balls.
Thanks Mr. UI Designer, you deserve a carrot... and guess what you can do with it.
For a long time EVE had the best UI in my book, clean and crisp. Please take a look at some older screenshots and please go back there.
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Grel Dar
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:14:00 -
[384]
Issues ....yeah I have issues I am on my second month here and so far I'm not impressed much. I just lost a tremendous amount as I was podded "Waiting in Que" to jump? Where the hell am I supposed to go while waiting? Oh how I love orbiting a StarGate waiting to be picked off. Straighten your mess out please or this will be my second and final month;I can't believe you want us to pay for this. I applaud your efforts ;as it appears you worked on the "patchs" 'til well into the night;too bad nothing was accomplished.
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Macdeth
Ephemeral Misgivings
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:24:00 -
[385]
Edited by: Macdeth on 23/08/2006 16:27:38
Originally by: Dezzereth Whoever had the "glorious idea" to add that white bar to the bottom of the icons, so that you get eye cancer when looking at a hanger full of items, or your cargohold?
With every patch the readability of EVE worsens, Don't you think it should be the other way around? The font changes and several UI changes were and still ARE really annoying, but this latest "masterpiece" is truly wrecking my eyesight... I get a headache by just looking at my hangar for a few seconds. Combined with the "astonishing", unreadable font, this really kicks my motivation to log into EVE right into the balls.
Thanks Mr. UI Designer, you deserve a carrot... and guess what you can do with it.
For a long time EVE had the best UI in my book, clean and crisp. Please take a look at some older screenshots and please go back there.
It's not that a white bar got added, it's that the box that the quantity is in seems to have gotten a little bit shorter, and the text therefore isn't vertically centered in it any more. (In RMR, the font size got bigger, but it still fit)
I went through my screenshots directory last night and put together a little image with part of the items hangar from Cold War, RMR, and now Dragon: Click here
Edit: Looked closer, now that I'm wide awake. The box is the same size, it just got moved down to the bottom of the icon image instead of staying in its old position, and the text moved with it.
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Dezzereth
Space Invaders
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:28:00 -
[386]
Edited by: Dezzereth on 23/08/2006 16:31:10 True, yet the result is the same. The Icons of the Items are a very important part of the UI. If that gets close to unreadable by that amount then for me as a grpahic designer it is a sign that either nobody checked it, or didn't care. This can't be left the way it is now.
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:31:00 -
[387]
...waiting for a Dev's comment on the courier mission situation.
Juwi Kotch
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Alexander Knott
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:36:00 -
[388]
Kikosuda Partoh in Aramichi has now attempted to give me "Enemies Abound 1/5" 3 times in a row. Once before the patch, twice after. I'm sure that it's wholey possible that I'm getting screwed by the random number generator, has anyone else had this problem?
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Zodiaq
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:41:00 -
[389]
Edited by: Zodiaq on 23/08/2006 16:42:25 Edited by: Zodiaq on 23/08/2006 16:41:47 Juwi Kotch: look here: Known Issues
Mephisto: Could you be more precise? "Courier missions will be replaced in the near future" is so vague - what does 'near' mean? Hours? Days? Weeks? Month?
Zodiaq |

Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:45:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Zodiaq Edited by: Zodiaq on 23/08/2006 16:42:25 Edited by: Zodiaq on 23/08/2006 16:41:47 Juwi Kotch: look here: Known Issues
Mephisto: Could you be more precise? "Courier missions will be replaced in the near future" is so vague - what does 'near' mean? Hours? Days? Weeks? Month?
Thanks for the link, Zodiaq. And I sign the question.
Juwi Kotch
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Linerra Tedora
Criss Cross
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:45:00 -
[391]
greetings. I have 2 accounts that i pay for. My one account is my main, a all round character.... no problems there...
my alt account that i also pay for, is an R&D character. But he doesn't yet have the faction standing required to use lvl 4 research agents. And as he has no skills in combat he cannot do those. What he can, or should i say could, do, were courier missions. Sure they were a bit boring and slow, but they were worth it. As i would not waste time training combat skills that i would never use again.
But now that has been taken away. I have no way to raise faction with my research corp, but to run combat missions. Which will take me a month or more, just to be able to run. And then i cannot even run them at lvl 3 or 4.. that would take me many months to be able to do that. Especially when this characters stats are not in perception and willpower.
So what you have done by removing the courier missions, is take away my only reason to use this character. And therefore, my only reason to pay for this account.
Yes you say that you will soon put courier missions back in... but you give no date. The least you could do was give us all a date. As i know that alot of us carebears and others are being severely hurt by this, you should at least consider throwing a few missions in as fast as your developers can throw them together.
Anyways, hope you guys listen to reason, and realize how truly fast you need to put at least some stuff back that we can do. EvE-CCG Spoiler Database |

EndersGame
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:46:00 -
[392]
Issued that I have encountered:
1.) Cyno ships can now be targeted after there cynos are up.
2.) If your cyno is blown up when you jump through it, you are placed somewhere else in system.
3.) If your fighters warp after someone who went to say a deep safe, they are non responsive.
4.) Gang warp too, does not take the set default option.
5.) Fighters used to auto agress things shooting you, now they sit there dumbly (seems the AI was nerfed).
6.) Drones dont target the next target you agro, after they kill someone.
7.) This one has been here a while but fighters dont MWD back to your ship when you recall them, only when engaging a target.
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Mephysto

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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:49:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Zodiaq Juwi Kotch: look here: Known Issues
Mephisto: Could you be more precise? "Courier missions will be replaced in the near future" is so vague - what does 'near' mean? Hours? Days? Weeks? Month?
I cannot be more specific, as that is the only information I have. I am guessing near future means the next week or two. This is just my guess though, not a fact.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:58:00 -
[394]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 23/08/2006 16:59:06
Just want to repeat that even after todays downtime, the map still says "Traffic Advisory!" after every region and constellation name you travel through from start to destination.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:00:00 -
[395]
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 23/08/2006 17:03:56
Originally by: Mephysto
Originally by: Zodiaq Juwi Kotch: look here: Known Issues
Mephisto: Could you be more precise? "Courier missions will be replaced in the near future" is so vague - what does 'near' mean? Hours? Days? Weeks? Month?
I cannot be more specific, as that is the only information I have. I am guessing near future means the next week or two. This is just my guess though, not a fact.
Thanks for this info, although quite unsubstantial. Maybe one of the persons in charge will say something to that soon?
I still have a hard time to understand how CCP just could do that. Deleting courier missions is just deleting 50% of the mission type options in game.
Did nobody do an analysis how many courier missions have been done each day? Or how many different accounts are doing courier missions, if that is possible? Or has it been done and the number was just that insignificant? What would really surprise me seeing all the threads and postings about that issue on this boards.
Edit:
I understood, that this is an intended change in game design, not a bug. This is a completely different issue then all the bugs listed, since it is an intentional limitation of game options. Such things should be investigated closely before done, and the player base should be informed way ahead to give them a chance to react. While the bugs are a quality problem, this is a management problem.
Juwi Kotch
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Gwlad Fawr
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:02:00 -
[396]
it's 17:00 GMT on the 23rd, i have just downloaded the patch and installed it and i try to logon and i have the message 'STATUS: UNKNOWN' under the server box. I can't login, anyone know why? is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
GF
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:07:00 -
[397]
Everything seems fine for me, besides the major issues noted. I just had to comment on one thing. You now get a cool noise when you recieve an evemail. SO FREAKING AWESOME. As someone who has to respond to evemails as soon as I get them, I often find it annoying to miss a new mail arriving. I really like this little feature. It would be awesome if we could select between a variety of sounds, though, perhaps including some voice synth, and set different ones for corp and alliance mail. Also being able to disable the sound would rock.
Auctioning a rare item, the only remote HULL repairers in the game. Don't miss out, this chance won't come again. |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:08:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Gwlad Fawr it's 17:00 GMT on the 23rd, i have just downloaded the patch and installed it and i try to logon and i have the message 'STATUS: UNKNOWN' under the server box. I can't login, anyone know why? is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
GF
Nope, the server is up and you should be able to log in.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Matt Trakand
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:09:00 -
[399]
I recieved an eve mail from a storyline agent advising me I had a storyline mission available. I deleted the mail as usual, planning to access the mission details through my journal later.
The mission does not show in my journal as an offered mission.
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Nicholai Pestot
Gallente Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:11:00 -
[400]
The escrow bug is quite annoying.
I have a Dominix BPO im trying to get of at a very fair price to give my liquid assets a quick injection....and ive already had multiple people mailing me warning that i should stop scamming/take down my escrow/am going to get petitioned for being a scammer  ________________ What you do is you store up the rage, let it fester while you gain strength, then use it to gank those weaker than you... and so the circle of life is complete |
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Natasha Starlight
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:12:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Gwlad Fawr it's 17:00 GMT on the 23rd, i have just downloaded the patch and installed it and i try to logon and i have the message 'STATUS: UNKNOWN' under the server box. I can't login, anyone know why? is anyone else having this problem?
Thanks
GF
I am. Before I patched I saw how many people were logged on and "Incompatable" in red. Patch was successfully applied and now I see "Status: Unknown". When I try to log on it says "Could not connect to specified address". I have tried a reboot.
Help.
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Etienne Merten
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:13:00 -
[402]
OK, I hate the big icons in the upper left of all open windows (Ships, Items, Cargo Hold, Cargo Containers of all types). Makes the windows take about 10% MORE real estate at smallest size possible. My screeen was already too busy.
On the Bright Side (TM) I must say that I've been on hours today, morning and post-DT, and I have not had a CTD yet. The interface seems more responsive and the connection more solid. We'll see how it is under heavier loads this evening, but I am very happy overall. Iron out the issues and good job, guys!
(Rare was the day pre-patch that I didn't have a CTD, or 12...)
Cheers!
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:14:00 -
[403]
Bug:
Doing show info on a player -> employment history, then clicking his corp, then using the little back button up in the top right corner of the window -> produces 2x the employment history tab.
Reproducable and works on all players I've tested it on.
Here's a screenshot
Yeah, those npc corp titles are kinda weird too ;) --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me! |

coolzero
Gallente Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:14:00 -
[404]
* The sound effect for entering/leaving warp is missing
please leave this in :P warp sound is annoying pre-patch was just to freaking loud 
and if it must change let them for god sake lower the volume....
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Celesta Croft
Caldari Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:16:00 -
[405]
In the prepatch dev blog it was mentioned that client side modification was no longer possible. Does this include packaging up your own font files to replace the atrocity CCP calls a font? I had a link to a players site who had such fonts available for use to replace the stock one. Is this no longer a possibility?
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Suzuna Taki
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:18:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Mephysto
Originally by: Zodiaq Juwi Kotch: look here: Known Issues
Mephisto: Could you be more precise? "Courier missions will be replaced in the near future" is so vague - what does 'near' mean? Hours? Days? Weeks? Month?
I cannot be more specific, as that is the only information I have. I am guessing near future means the next week or two. This is just my guess though, not a fact.
I'm very glad of hearing (reading) that. Thanks.
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Skeltek
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:18:00 -
[407]
After a lot of issues and trying I decided uninstalling and reinstalling the Client.
Any time I try to install it, it aborts when extracting resTextures.stuff at 30%, giving an error message: Error writing to file resTextures.stuff.
Assumed an error during download, so I tried downloading it a cecond time with same result. Assumed a physical harddisk error and marked sectors of about 2GB as occupied by an "empty file". Didn¦t help. Tried installing to other harddrives, still keeps aborting after 30% resTextures.stuff is completed.
Feel rather helpless.
kind regards, Skeltek
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Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:18:00 -
[408]
Indeed, the ui seems more responsive, so good job on that one.
But now something else starts to irritate me even more (because of the ui updating faster).
I cant imagine that even the playing devs havent had this issue, anyways here it goes. 
If in overview u have things listed on distance then, of course, the order changes depending on where u are and the enemy is. However, when this 'change' occurs right after u rightclick an item, then the popup menu will show context related to the item that appears at that position ==after the change happened==. It's not related to the item you actually clicked.
This was already annoying, but now, i guess due to ui improvements, it also happens when clicking the slot buttons. (e.g. i click a missile bay to deactivate, yet before my click gets send to the server, it already deactivated because the target got blown up. Now the server 'thinks' i want to activate it, and does so, making my next target in the list, a can, go pop.....
item 1 item 2 <--- i click here item 3
<list order changes>
item 2 item 1 item 3
<pop up is drawn, showing context related to item 1>
This happens with the overview list, the target list and now the slot list...
This just makes playing 'on auto' impossible, you cant trust the ui to do what u want it to do. (well for me at least)
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Suzuna Taki
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:23:00 -
[409]
Edited by: Suzuna Taki on 23/08/2006 17:23:15 Double post.
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Har Ganeth
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:35:00 -
[410]
I seem to be experiencing bad lag even when just ratting in a backwater 0.0 system.
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Asketus
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:37:00 -
[411]
ok . Here again in the right thread. : Hi. My 2. account will be cancelt in a few days. He was mining most the time while my 1. was often doing courier missionis (lvl4) . Therefore i bought a freighter. As i don¦t like fighting my 1. account can do mining an producing hinself without a 2. Of course i know that CCP didn¦t make this change to annoy me. But if i can¦t play the way i like i¦ll reduce playing (and paying). And it¦s aprox. the 4.or 5. time they destroy my way of playing with a patch.
Asketus/(Pizzakiller)
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:45:00 -
[412]
I would just like to say that I hope the courier missions being gone for now means that I won't get anymore 100,000 ish reward Outbreak! missions.
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Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:47:00 -
[413]
Quote: The text in a buy/sell order window will not display correctly if the window is part of a stack
For those who missed the solution: Either Shift-click&drag the tab (transforming it into a normal window) or go to Esc, Reset settings, Reset to default window positions.
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Abaddon Nostros
Minmatar Nostros Shipyards
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:48:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Ronin Reborn Clonejumped from a body with no implants into a body with full +3s. Implants not shown under augmentations tab in character screen, stats are correct and skill trains at implanted rate.
Try installing more implants :)
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Priest Valon
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:52:00 -
[415]
okay funny thing just happend i repackaged a giant can with the region i needed to upload (bookmarks)
i goten a error msg for each bookmark 300+ bookies so ul have a idea on how my screen looked
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Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:52:00 -
[416]
If u are in combat and click 'warp to', you will hear "warp drive active". During this moment and the moment the ship actually goes into warp (which might be a few seconds if your ship is not aligned), you can shoot at enemies (and u can get shot at). However, you can shoot all u want, and hit, but you won't do any damage.....
This seems to have been broken. (The npc will still do damage).
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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:54:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 23/08/2006 15:18:06 Overall the client looks sharper and responds better, nice job!All fonts, English and Russian, look nice and crisp (playing @ 1280x1024, 4xAA 16xAF, 19" LCD).
That's because you are playing on a 19" monitor at 1280x1024. That's just about grandma size text. I was fine with the fonts when played on a 17" monitor at 1280x1024, but now I only have a Thinkpad laptop which has a 15" 1400x1050 screen. Awesome screen, but fonts are just too small and down-ressing the screen jsut isn't possible because it diplays non-native resolutions very poorly. - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron. |

Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:59:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Andrue
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish At least you guys can log on. I cant even jump on to change my skill training, let alone find any in game problems :\ Id say that is the biggest issue yet. Hopefully its something small and will be fixed when wake up tomarrow.
I'm sorry to hear of your problem but you were told to set a long skill training and that 'long' meant days not hours.
That was kinda a jerk responce. First of all, I did have a 2 day skill in training at the time. Second, i expected the patch to ATLEAST keep the game running enough to switch out skill if i needed to. I did not, could not forsee it screwing up my entire computer, if i had known it would have fubar'ed my system i would have set a longer skill to train.
READ AGAIN its not the patch time i had problems with, its the game not running AFTER said patch.
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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:04:00 -
[419]
"The sound effect for entering/leaving warp is missing"
No please it's not a bug, that sound is one of the worst sounds of all time! Well maybe in isolation the sound isn't so bad, but hearing over and over and over and over and over and over and over ... you get the point.
By the way the client runs SO MUCH better now. Obviously a lot of work to make all those code improvements so thanks! - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron. |

Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:05:00 -
[420]
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish
That was kinda a jerk responce. First of all, I did have a 2 day skill in training at the time. Second, i expected the patch to ATLEAST keep the game running enough to switch out skill if i needed to. I did not, could not forsee it screwing up my entire computer, if i had known it would have fubar'ed my system i would have set a longer skill to train.
READ AGAIN its not the patch time i had problems with, its the game not running AFTER said patch.
Have you tried reinstalling the game with the full client install of build 4557 instead of updating?
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Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:08:00 -
[421]
Another bug I noticed:
The total skillpoints in the Character Sheet is not updated (not in the general info and not at the top of the skillsheet).
According to my skillsheet I have 3,490,876 skillpoints (and has shown this number for hours), according to EVEmon I currently have 3,595,348 skillpoints.
The skillpoints of the skill in training is being increased.
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Montego
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:13:00 -
[422]
[Moderators are locking threads in mission area and telling us to post here.]
Removal of Courier Missions: 1 account canceled.
Not knowing when they might return: 2nd account ready to be canceled next week.
Callousness of the removal: considering cancelation of all my accounts.
Constructive Criticism: Don't alienate a chuck of your players.
Suggestion: Get out an ETA on the return of courier missions ASAP!
It's like I've fallen into an alternate universe where CCP/EVE have been switched with SOE/SWG!
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:14:00 -
[423]
Edited by: Doppleganger on 23/08/2006 18:16:10
Originally by: Johan VanDelft
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish
That was kinda a jerk responce. First of all, I did have a 2 day skill in training at the time. Second, i expected the patch to ATLEAST keep the game running enough to switch out skill if i needed to. I did not, could not forsee it screwing up my entire computer, if i had known it would have fubar'ed my system i would have set a longer skill to train.
READ AGAIN its not the patch time i had problems with, its the game not running AFTER said patch.
Have you tried reinstalling the game with the full client install of build 4557 instead of updating?
I had the auto update go bad on me as well (mentioned it an earlier post) So i had to d/l the full install... heres the trick unless they have put up a new one in the last 10 hrs the only full install I found is not 4557 its 3913 which means after d/ling 551 megs you still need to patch it.
I hope they get a full install of build 4557 out.
{edit} nm I should have looked 1st they got a full install out now for 4557.... where the hell was it last night when the server came back up...
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Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:18:00 -
[424]
Originally by: Johan VanDelft Another bug I noticed:
The total skillpoints in the Character Sheet is not updated (not in the general info and not at the top of the skillsheet).
According to my skillsheet I have 3,490,876 skillpoints (and has shown this number for hours), according to EVEmon I currently have 3,595,348 skillpoints.
The skillpoints of the skill in training is being increased.
I think it only shows the sum of completed skills. As always.
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Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:24:00 -
[425]
Edited by: Johan VanDelft on 23/08/2006 18:24:25
Originally by: Weps
Originally by: Johan VanDelft Another bug I noticed:
The total skillpoints in the Character Sheet is not updated (not in the general info and not at the top of the skillsheet).
According to my skillsheet I have 3,490,876 skillpoints (and has shown this number for hours), according to EVEmon I currently have 3,595,348 skillpoints.
The skillpoints of the skill in training is being increased.
I think it only shows the sum of completed skills. As always.
No it used to show the current total, but I just noticed that switching a skill will update the total to include the added skillpoints of the previous skill (but the added skillpoints of the current skill is not included until you switch to another skill etc). This was not the behaviour of the previous version.
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Jesters Knight
Eclipse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:29:00 -
[426]
when you get a GM response about an open pettetion you have the option to open the message, however the button dosent work.
it opens a blank pettetion window. Sweet LAN party
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Nobler
Caldari Messerschmitt Shipyards The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:37:00 -
[427]
What's a pirate suppose to do if courier missions are not active? 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:40:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Weps
Originally by: Johan VanDelft Another bug I noticed:
The total skillpoints in the Character Sheet is not updated (not in the general info and not at the top of the skillsheet).
According to my skillsheet I have 3,490,876 skillpoints (and has shown this number for hours), according to EVEmon I currently have 3,595,348 skillpoints.
The skillpoints of the skill in training is being increased.
I think it only shows the sum of completed skills. As always.
The total shows whatever amount of skillpoints you had when you started training the latest skill. So if you switch a skill halfway, the halfway gets added to the total. It was like this before the patch and its the same way afterwards too.
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

DrakeStone
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:45:00 -
[429]
Indeed - no change to the way skillpoints are listed in your character sheet, per skill or in total.
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Firebyrd
Gallente Crooked River Productions
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:03:00 -
[430]
Dont know if this has been brought up, but Overview doesnt update if u name a J-Can, just have close and reopen it, but thats the only bug i found, and 1 i can live with it...
but i think its pretty cool, that the ore scanner now deletes roids that was mined out, where as before u had to clear previos scans and rescan to remove dead roids..
Good work CCP ----------------------------------------------- In the End , there can be only 1
Learn from yesterday, that u may be stronger tomorrow
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Calvin Caltrain
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:09:00 -
[431]
It would have been nice if some courier remained. I have just tried my agent and instead of courier missions I got four kill missions one after the other. If there are no courier missions then I will stop using the agent until they are reinstated. My character has not trained for kill missions at that level.
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Mervent
Caldari RONA Deepspace Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:11:00 -
[432]
Get rid of the queue.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:12:00 -
[433]
Sometimes when I warp to a station the "dock" overview button never ungreys so that I can click on it. When I hover over it it tells me I'm still in warp when I'm not.
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Wrayeth
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:12:00 -
[434]
Is there an ETA on when the overview settings removal bug might be fixed? I'm holding off on patching up and logging in because of this, since it's the only one of the bugs that's bothersome enough to keep me out. -Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Julia Reave
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:12:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Mervent Get rid of the queue.
Signed.
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Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:22:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Par'Gellen Sometimes when I warp to a station the "dock" overview button never ungreys so that I can click on it. When I hover over it it tells me I'm still in warp when I'm not.
It already did something simlar in the last version (except then you did not see the grayed out icon), you need to click on the station again to activate the dock icon.
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theslayer
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:24:00 -
[437]
I dont know if this has been said befor, but for as long as i have been playing the forum always dies when the server is down.
Now last night during the issue with the oatch deplyment were advised to look a a thread on the forums, the forums that are not online. Is there any chance that the forums can be made active when the server is down? Might be a bit a big job becouse i dont know how the forums and server are linked to each other. some info on why its like this would be good in anycase.
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Raven Seldon
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:25:00 -
[438]
two of my corp members lost their haulers to pirates in Kisogo and Jita. They were sitting on the gate and killing ships without CONCORD reacting. Camping in an 1.0 system. I'm sure we are not at war with the guys or have any kill rights on us.
Weird... ______________________________________________ My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes. |

Michael Snark
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:26:00 -
[439]
Just another vote for bringing back courier-trade-mine missions!
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Ivan Litanekh
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:27:00 -
[440]
Invisible Deadspace Gate bug
Just played a kill mission for a lvl1 agent (Atshodan Kiraski in Haatomo) - the deadpsace gates are not only invisible, but the 1st gate was 80Km off it's bookmark. They still function, but no nice blue effects.
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Talidorn
Pandoras Mining Covanant R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:27:00 -
[441]
BUG: Opening Sci & Indudstry in space and clicking on corp BPO tab causes list of BPOs to recycle and generate lag.
In our corp hangar we have nearly 600 BPOs.
While mining I was attempting to start a job for a corpmate from our BPO stash.
I had various other corpmates that have access and were mining confirm this issue.
It makes us unable to start new jobs while mining mins.
Talidorn.
PS - GMs/DEVs If you need more info please convo me ingame or send an evemail.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:30:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Johan VanDelft
Originally by: Par'Gellen Sometimes when I warp to a station the "dock" overview button never ungreys so that I can click on it. When I hover over it it tells me I'm still in warp when I'm not.
It already did something simlar in the last version (except then you did not see the grayed out icon), you need to click on the station again to activate the dock icon.
The point is it's broken and needs to be fixed. It was broken before, it just wasn't as obvious. Now it's so obvious it makes it look stupid.
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Chayan
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:31:00 -
[443]
Why did you remove the courier missions? 
For every agent I had that gave me kill missions I had 2/3 that gave mostly courier missions. 
I like kill missions to a point but they get old fast I liked doing a few fedex missions, they give you time to BS with friends. 
And part 2/3 tech secrets does not count. 
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Celiss
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:38:00 -
[444]
Mephysto, Good work on the known issues page, most of the stuff seems there. However I do not see the font replacement issue there. This is in my opinion, the most serious problem, as it makes the game nearly unplayable (headache-land). This is more serious than if right-click didn't work half the time. Please add it to the list.
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Fubear
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:42:00 -
[445]
3 minute gate queue in 0.0, being forced to sit on a gate in 0.0 for 3 minutes to go anywhere is completely unacceptable.
I hope this gates fixed ASAP
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Mned Graydroggen
Satal's Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:42:00 -
[446]
havent read all, so apologies for doubling.
Small bug Switching skilltraining doesnt get recorded by left interface. Shows greyish as if not training.
Big BUG I was locked whilst in cynofield generating mode. And more worring, subsequentlty shot out of my ship. I myself was, as normal, not able to do anything, like moving etc.
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Mned Graydroggen
Satal's Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:45:00 -
[447]
For the rest the patch looks nice btw. havent encountered any real issues. Session changes are a bitt slowish, ( Undocking, jumping )
Like what you did with the Charactersheet. Good to have the portrait back.
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Ivan Litanekh
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:48:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Raven Seldon two of my corp members lost their haulers to pirates in Kisogo and Jita. They were sitting on the gate and killing ships without CONCORD reacting. Camping in an 1.0 system. I'm sure we are not at war with the guys or have any kill rights on us.
Weird...
Just tested Concord response in Haatomo (thanks to 'O Theif' & 'Windstrom') Concord are still on the ball it seems..
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Rusom Rokath
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:48:00 -
[449]
Thanks for killing off the courier missions. My courier agent was in a different region as where I produce from my bpo's, and now that you can't check the progress on your factory jobs from a different region, I need to stay docked at where my stuff is building anyway. Excellent work! /sarcasm
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Weps
Azule Wolves
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Posted - 2006.08.23 19:58:00 -
[450]
thread name 6/23 ? anyways...
resizing (corp) chat window (smallest size font, no icons per line and member list visible) will freeze the game far too long.
(no wonder if u calculate per line the pixel height needed to draw the text....)
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Distrans
Pech und Schwefel
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:03:00 -
[451]
How ist the "traffick control" supposed to work huh?
I get a message "numer bla" and still can cruise around and do things. But Autopilot does not work and I cannot jump through other gates.
So am I still visible to others too and cannot cancel the queue? Just in case the gate gets comfy...bs
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Agnar Griffen
Caldari Equitus Nosferatum Praetorians
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:04:00 -
[452]
This is just cosmetic, but... anyway:
When you claim escrow items are shown in a nice tabbed column format, like this:
- Item 1
- Item 2
- Item 3
- Item 4
But when you put items into escrow are displayed like this:
Item 1Item 2Item 3
So it's difficult to review the items, but as I said, it's just cosmetical, there're more important bugs out there. *cough* courier missions *cough*
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Catarina Caldone
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:07:00 -
[453]
Reset traffic control: You are number 5 in queue for jump....
for 30 minutes.
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Kylania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:13:00 -
[454]
Originally by: Mervent Get rid of the queue.
Get out of Jita.
And can we PLEASE stop with the courier mission posts? They are being replaced, just not today. It's always been the intention to replace them, they are not gone forver, they devs KNOW you want them back and we were told in advanced about this. Argh. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap | CCG Card Lookup |

Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:16:00 -
[455]
Originally by: Celesta Croft In the prepatch dev blog it was mentioned that client side modification was no longer possible. Does this include packaging up your own font files to replace the atrocity CCP calls a font? I had a link to a players site who had such fonts available for use to replace the stock one. Is this no longer a possibility?
No longer possible. - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron. |

Nakosh
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:18:00 -
[456]
I have to admit I love CCP...all these new shiny buttons everywhere...a symbol for cash in mission details...yay exactly what was needed for 2 years now...surprisingly enough for me the lag get¦s even worse but why the heck shouldsomeone care about lag and a pretty much unplayable game when we have all these new shiny buttons everywhere to play around while waiting 7 minutes for a reload or 5 minutes till any module is start/stop running...
the fact that I dont have any weapon/jump sound anymore is quite entertaining as well...not as much as the still not configurable UI with more then just 2 font sizes...
long awaited patch...nothing changed...good job there...
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coolzero
Gallente Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:23:00 -
[457]
small bug: im mining and jetcan and i name the can but it doesnt update on your overview so if you name the can it will still be listed as "cargo container"
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Distrans
Pech und Schwefel
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:23:00 -
[458]
As for You courier *****s, I hope for random hostile spawns at the gates when they come again.
So You will have to work like everyone else, no more making profit and skill R&D-alts cruising afk.
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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:25:00 -
[459]
Originally by: Kylania Edited by: Kylania on 23/08/2006 20:20:19 Celiss, you do realize you're asking a dev to "fix" your ability to violate the EULA right? The ability they intentionally removed by fixing the problem that led to it? There are no "replacement fonts". You were exploiting before, now you can't. Deal.
Originally by: EULA
7. CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct... CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game:
2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played.
To make the text larger at higher resolutions, please press ESC then Generic tab then click the "Use Expanded Fonts" option. This increases the size of text to a nice, easily readble value (@1650x1050 or something, with bad vision). There are a few places where text will wrap badly or overflow, but not many.
Wow you are smart. Can we trade brains? - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron. |

Cardnyl Sin
Gallente Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:26:00 -
[460]
When copying BM's I noticed that I can no longer shift drag into the items pane on top of a BM that is already in there to start the copy process. -So newbie its not even funny.- |
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Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:28:00 -
[461]
Queing must go as has been said. Otherwise things seem cool. - - - - - - - - - -
Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
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JaddedSoul
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:46:00 -
[462]
Originally by: GlaxyRider I seem to be having a log in problem after the patch i cant get pass connecting to server. i type in my pass and all and when that happen the Eve screen just cuts off. any idea what i can do to actually log in?
i am also still having this problem even after reinstalling eve any advice on maybe something that can fix this and atually work?
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Daniel Gelane
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:56:00 -
[463]
Originally by: JaddedSoul
Originally by: GlaxyRider I seem to be having a log in problem after the patch i cant get pass connecting to server. i type in my pass and all and when that happen the Eve screen just cuts off. any idea what i can do to actually log in?
i am also still having this problem even after reinstalling eve any advice on maybe something that can fix this and atually work?
Double check your firewall settings. I remember someone mentioning in another post that their software firewall saw the patched version as a whole new app. They generated a new exception for it and the connection problem was resolved.
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Alexi Borizkova
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:59:00 -
[464]
For quite some time now, the eve site has not been working properly for me, with extremely logn load times, unnexplained errors, etc. Today, after the patch with no changes on my end, it is working better than ever.
Unrelated, or my vinegar and honey program I bought out of weekly world news, you decide.
Or it was the patch. Any way it goes, I'm a happy man.
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JaddedSoul
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:59:00 -
[465]
i also have Window Xp home edition is this still supported or not?
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a2kred
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2006.08.23 20:59:00 -
[466]
After my skill finished (level 1 of Infomorph Psychology, if it matters) the normal "Skill Training Completed" mail I received was in Chinese (I guess..)
http://www.redsector.org.uk/skill.jpg
I checked my language setting and it was set to English. ___
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:03:00 -
[467]
TBH this is the first patch I have been genuinely unhappy with. CCP have done a horrible job on all elements of this. From the bugs where corpmates show up as neutrals, to NPCs shooting at long range to BPCs appearring as BPOs and giving free reign to escrow scammers. I even think the new interface changes are ugly.
What kills me is that NONE OF THIS WAS IN THE PATCH NOTES. Its ridiculous.
Queues in particular are the WORST single idea I have ever seen. Between the patchnotes being so ridiculously incomplete, and queueing, I'm starting to look at eve like I look at other mediocre MMOs. If CCP keeps up this level of crappyness I wont likely stay in the long run.
Get your house in order CCP, this is not acceptable.
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=349194&page=1Redo Fleets[/ur |

GlaxyRider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:03:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Daniel Gelane
Originally by: JaddedSoul
Originally by: GlaxyRider I seem to be having a log in problem after the patch i cant get pass connecting to server. i type in my pass and all and when that happen the Eve screen just cuts off. any idea what i can do to actually log in?
i am also still having this problem even after reinstalling eve any advice on maybe something that can fix this and atually work?
Far as i know it i have taken all firewalls off unless my cable comes with one i cant see.
Double check your firewall settings. I remember someone mentioning in another post that their software firewall saw the patched version as a whole new app. They generated a new exception for it and the connection problem was resolved.
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ZegTheBrick
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:03:00 -
[469]
Edited by: ZegTheBrick on 23/08/2006 21:03:20 In addition to my previous 'complaining a bit about the UI' post...
I notice that in most (all?) windows now the tab labels are not truncated, forcing the window to be rediculously massive horizontally. Here's the 'perfect example', trying to browse the agent list while looking up the route to them on the map:
A useful ammount of map area
Obviously, they could be smaller vertically, but its much easier to have a thin list with all the agents in view.
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Brungar
Caldari Adeptus Illuminati Aegis Authentica
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:20:00 -
[470]
And to add to the fun the server seems down again?  "War is a continuation of commerce by other means" - Unknown Caldari philosopher |
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EnEs TaLuNdZiC
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:24:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Kenz Rider Who wants my stuff?
Me please! ahahahahhaahhahaaaaa :)
Originally by: HenkieBoy
Quote: Most of the Devs went home after a marathon, 18 hour session and most of them will be back in about 6-7 hours to work on the outstanding issues.
You are letting them sleep? 
I'm just as shocked as you are, in fact, even more!
Originally by: Bero Tepesh Patch or not, I think a little more respect and consideration toward all PRESENT PAYING players would be greatly appreciated.
Too often changes and gameplay modifications are made thinking about the more players to come in the future and not about smooth gameplay of old players. I'm not talking about win 95/98/ME compatibility but general gameplay issues, and I'm getting tired of this.
  
Well, What can I say? I completely agree with you.
Originally by: Nerraan Peklaa To the devs:
Thank you for working so hard on getting the server up last night. I'm a developer myself and I know you can get pretty pee-d off that all the users are complaining about you not doing something. If they had to sort it out it would never be done!
Anyway, dont think that all of the eve community is ungrateful, just that those who are normally post more! Btw - Loving the optimised UI code :)
Originally by: btc01 Just wanted to say thanks to everyone at CCP for all their hard work. And a special thank you to the Dev team - well done for getting the new patch deployed! I know how hard things like this can be (As a software developer myself)
Cheers, Ben
Well I agree on the changes, that they are neccessary, but if I were to release such major changes as CCP is doing, I would have to look for another job, before the release. Totally unacceptable, what happened to small bugfixes and rewrite of the game code in smaller portions ? You wouldnt restart the evolution of the Homo Sapiens and have it done in 24 hours just because it has to be done. Small changes & and observation of the changes before new changes are implemented or added again.
Originally by: rig0r Edited by: rig0r on 23/08/2006 10:32:18 Kudos to your decision to send Transgaming a code-drop so they were able to release a cedega update today and keep EVE running smoothly on linux. Good job !
Really good job here!!! Many thanx to you CCP!
Originally by: Fantome Edited by: Fantome on 23/08/2006 11:46:25
Originally by: handlebars Ican't log in either, been 28 hours since i was able to log in...what really drives me nuts is this "We're up! We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience patch deployment may have caused. Note that minimal OS for Eve will be Windows 2000 SP2." TRANQUILLITY IS NOT UP!! is CCP mocking me deliberatly or what....and regular downtime scheduled to start in 30 minutes...no doubt servers will still be down when i return from work in 10 hours
oh yeah, and the petitions page of eve-online.com isn't working either
daily DT .. 1100 / 1200 eve time ... so it's not scheduled to start in 30min but already started since 45 min 
In every patch there are problems, however, you seem to have a habit of having long downtimes whever there's a bigger patch released, Something has to be done about this CCP. Perhaps smaller patches?
Originally by: Grytok Tested half an hour before DT and it feels good so far, but like said before there are some really annoying issues like >> Overview does not keep column sizes, always resize during jumping, which is really annoying <<.
But the worst thing is, that there are no courier-missions anymore 
BRING THEM BACK!!! Not with Kali, I want them back NOW 
This one is really interesting! Get those missions back, you can't just clip the wings of those wishing to pursue this avenue of the game. I know I would be FUBAR if it happened to me.
Quote: Originally by: TuxfordYes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you wo...
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EnEs TaLuNdZiC
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:25:00 -
[472]
Edited by: EnEs TaLuNdZiC on 23/08/2006 21:27:49
Originally by: Nelix Trist
Originally by: masty rabble rabble rabble
These patch (Large Patch) days come once every 6 months if your lucky. So really for the ammount of stuff that comes with the patch, I think 24 hours (None playing time) is worth the wait.
Sorry, not really, I would prefer patches that are smaller and more often instead, already stated in previous post of mine. And I think I'm not the only one that has this point of view.
Originally by: sniper luke updated to the new version, played it for a few hours, nice little touches i see, one bug tho, I was in 0.3 sec mining in a barge and i jetted a can of jaspet, and the can didnt show up on overview, even though the rat killed cans were in overview, rabble rabble. Also some of the 16k rats, pop in and out of overview, one min there 40km away then they are not in overview, then they are back in overview at 3000m and shooting the crap out of me. But so far patch looks ok, and only minor bugs. thanks for the hard work ccp. regards Luke
When you loose that barge, you won't be so pleased as you are now, I would prefer a smaller patch more often instead and things working more along the StAbLe Avenue.
Originally by: Vinka Iceni I'd just like to say that post-patch the Eve client runs far more smoothly on my laptop with the UI being far quicker. I can actually run a depth buffer now and still have almost 10fps more than I did before - I don't know what you did, and possibly neither do you, but I like it!
I can actually do simple kill missions now without my laptop showing me the finger!
Just have to go home tonight and see what its like on my games rig!
Really CCP, god job. but I have to say that I don't have that many positive memories since I started out playing EVE-O, more along, Ohhh NOOOOOOO ITS another patch coming! Nooo mooore skills! Nooo mooore nerfs to this & that! More of those kinda feelings.
There are whole lot of issues with this patch, however, you have been, well, with the risk of exagerating, fast, to atleast get a grip of the issues. Good job there, but you still have quite a margin to improve on, a big one!
Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn show my corp members in space feature of the map shows people who are NOT in my corp, people in my corp who are offline, and none of the people in my corp who are online.
system visit count seems like it was disabled back in december, not sure if it was intentional, but was a nice feature.
Why not just remove these features? Just adding more and more unneccessary database info, slowing Eve-O down!
Originally by: Gli Liphon i'm sure last night was a total headache for all of you. a HUGE thanks for getting everything back up and running. i can't imagine doing maintenance on a production server with 20k+ users staring over my shoulder asking "are we there yet?!" you guys definitely put up with a lot from all of us... can't wait to get in tonight and see how everything looks! go have a few pints and get some rest... :D
Ahhhh, where I work, no, not happening, you can't go home when that many people are affected, NO WAY JOST!
Originally by: Asketus
rabble, rabble, rabble. But if i can¦t play the way i like i¦ll reduce playing (and paying). And it¦s aprox. the 4.or 5. time they destroy my way of playing with a patch. Asketus/(Pizzakiller)
Asketus, I have the same experience and feelings towards this game as you are having, Im gonna try this game for a while at the end of this month, I really need a break from EVE-0. CCP are doing great things, can't neglect that fact, however, the bad/lousy things are currently in favor of Miss Fortunes patch count.
Quote: Originally by: TuxfordYes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Sorry, To late for that alr
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Sora Ryu
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:31:00 -
[473]
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Brad Stone
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:35:00 -
[474]
Originally by: Johan VanDelft
No it used to show the current total, but I just noticed that switching a skill will update the total to include the added skillpoints of the previous skill (but the added skillpoints of the current skill is not included until you switch to another skill etc). This was not the behaviour of the previous version.
Nope ypu're wrong, it's always been that way. It doesnt add in the skillpoints of the training skill untll the skill completes or you pause the skill or switch. It really was that way before... honestly
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Commoner
Caldari The Foundation of Free Traders The Core Collective
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:35:00 -
[475]
Due to limited sparetime and school (and other stuff too) im genuinely disappointed by this patch.
1. Why bother with patchnotes, when all the major things are left out? (Where the coordination CCP?)
2. Still bugs me how such obvious bugs as missing mission text are not caught in QA.
3. Im starting to think that all the hotfixes implemented have started to collide and clutter up, creating chaos behavior.
Thankyou for you time, i sure hope that this patch is not an indication for things to come when the big patches start to arrive, if it is.. then im gonna pray...
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Adam G
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:37:00 -
[476]
CCP,
As a customer when I dont get the service I have paid for on occasion an appology is acceptable. However, of late all the down time and crashes and patches that fail and make you reinstall the entire game engine and loosing setups and folder structure is simply NOT acceptable. No more appologies. Give us someting, small refund, Skill time boost for the duration of the UNSCHEDULED down time, ISK credit, someting tangible becuase your appologies ain't cutting it anymore. Next step will be Moving to a new gaming provider. You do have competition, in case you may have overlooked that fact.
Not angry, no upset, simply feel I am not receiving the level of service expected and paid for.
Sincerley, Adam-G
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Himeko
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:38:00 -
[477]
<rabble> ok this is crap, the F****** s*** takes like 1000006546541032465 seconds to start up... and then the thing says unable to connect... just wtf... how much time will this thing continue? </rabble> ok now being more mature, i just want to say, its really that hard to maintain the server up? do the devs screwed up that bad?
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EnEs TaLuNdZiC
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:39:00 -
[478]
I was just about to log on to Eve-Online, and play the remaining time left this month, to see the improvements, but , the games is offline.
I have a suggestion that would be appreciated by many, not just me. Maybe it's time for some reimbursement. Prolong everybodys playing time for 48 hrs atleast, this isn't much considering the problems with the current patch release and the previous server crashes/outages in the past few weeks.
Quote: Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Sorry, To late for that already!
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ooga buga
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:44:00 -
[479]
I read the first three pages and noticed this wasn't posted already. Sorry if this was posted in 4-16 somewhere, but I have little desire to read it all. This basically a direct copy of what I said on the 'Known Issues' section of the forum. I suggest making a sticky there as well, as it seems to make more sense to have one there as well.
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To start off, I have Windows XP Pro, service pack 2.
I am not able to connect to Tranq. I'm not crashing, my client just doesn't seem to be able to find the server. I was not able to connect to test server either after I patched it some weeks ago, but I didn't think anything of it.
Reinstalling EVE did nothing.
Restarting my computer did nothing.
Getting angry did nothing.
I am out of ideas.
Having to reinstall XP would be problematic, seeing as though I can't seem to be able to find my serial code right now.
Help me O'be Wan Kenobe, you're my only hope. Thank you for your time.
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The patch may have broke the game, but at least you people made it in game!!!11one
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=382578 |

kalath1032
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:49:00 -
[480]
could we have an update on estimates on when EVE gonnas be back up?
cheers - thanks for all the hard work you guys have been upto to get tyhese probs fixed - youre doing a good job alot better than other major game companies who ignor the problem for 6 months
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Celiss
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:51:00 -
[481]
Edited by: Celiss on 23/08/2006 21:56:50
Originally by: Kylania
Celiss, you do realize you're asking a dev to "fix" your ability to violate the EULA right?
Yes, I'm asking them to fix a critical bug -- an unreadable font. If they want to add a font menu, fine, if they want to restore the ability to replace the font, fine. If they want to ban me for making it so I can READ THE TEXT and PAY THEM $15-30/month, they can. Because a lot of us can't play anyway unless they do. If they want our money, they need to fix this. That's not a "I'll quit if.." threat. That's a "I want to keep playing and paying, but I can't play a text heavy game where the text can't be read, even if I want to."
Kylania, if you don't have anything constructive to add (and no, resolution changes or 'expanded text' suggestions don't help -- we've obviously all tried it), then please don't. If you're happy with the situation, good for you, but many of us clearly aren't. This thread is for game issues with the new patch, unless you have a problem with the new version that you want to report, there's no reason for you to post. This isn't the "tell people to enjoy the problems" thread.
All I want is for CCP to continue to make a game I am able to pay them to play.
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Cuisinart
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:54:00 -
[482]
Well, I came home, let the game auto-patch and then tried to start the client. Now it's sitting here giving me a status of "Starting Up" and a countdown of about 4 seconds. It counts down to nothing and then repeats (starting at 4 seconds) over and over and over.
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Brad Stone
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:55:00 -
[483]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
You know what Juwi Kotch is now doing in game?
He sits in his freighter in Marosier
Oh really? Would that be an obelisk, Providence, Charon or Fenrir freighter?
I think you mean "Industrial" (or indy for short, or just "hauler")
Freighters are capital ships :)
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Cuisinart
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.23 21:55:00 -
[484]
Edited by: Cuisinart on 23/08/2006 21:57:31 and the forums are slow as well. which caused the double post...
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Evol1
J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:02:00 -
[485]
The petition queue, sadly, can and should no longer be limited to one open petition. I don't think that for each incident I have, I have to wait 20-50 days for the problem to be addressed and solved, to turn around again and wait another 20-50 days for the next one. As of the last few weeks, I have suffered more than a few losses during gameplay that I have wrote down, with as much detail as possible (as well as logfiles) the situation leading to the loss of my ship/fittings, only to then find out I can't open a new petition. I've ended up adding it as a note, but I can't help but wonder if that in of itself is more of a hurt than a help. Dates are different, times are different, logfile says different error messeges, that sort of thing. Can the petition/reimbursement system be tweaked to allow appended petitions to be made a) without waiting for the first one to be addressed and starting a new one, and b) tiered out so that seperate incidents can be logged and filed under one account. In times like we've been expereinceing, this is better than the other idea I had of docking and training BS5 (the only way I won't lose any more ships in the meantime :( )
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:10:00 -
[486]
quoted from the known issues:
* The sound effect for entering/leaving warp is missing
THAT is actually a good thing, can we leave it this way? I may reactivate sound within eve again.
PS deactivate "ambience noise" within stations too please ________
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ZegTheBrick
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:10:00 -
[487]
Okay, I never thought I'd make 3 posts in one topic, but considering the last two were really just whining about stuff that isnt 'game breaking'...
Bug type thing: When a window is loading (the little spinner thing is going round) I don't seem to be able to close them. So misclicking on the wallet when it was last on transactions means I get 30 seconds of giant grey box covering most of the screen before I can do anything other than try and shift it out of the way.
Okay, so thats still not exactly game breaking...
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Dale Cussler
Gallente Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:13:00 -
[488]
A couple things I have noticed in my playing today:
* Starting the game takes forever. It's quick to the character selection screen, but after that one can spend about 5 minutes waiting at the 'Entering game as ....' dialog.
* Mouse clicks on UI elements sometimes don't seem to register. Most notably the overview, if one clicks the orbit/keep distance/etc. buttons swiftly, it doesn't register. You very "deliberately" have to click it. Same for module buttons, basically anything that requires one to click. Also if you don't click an element close to it's center, the click won't register either.
* Repeated clicks won't register at all. If one clicks a module and pretty much clicks another module right after that (like double-clicking speed), neither click seems to register.
* Activating modules by way of keyboard shortcut will sometimes cause said module to get stuck in limbo. It will not activate, but repeated activation will deliver the 'module is awaiting activation' message; the module in question will then eventually become unstuck. Other modules of the same type will not exhibit this behaviour. I've been unable to reproduce this so I'm assuming it's a protocol glitch of sorts.
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:14:00 -
[489]
Font sucks, that is as constructive as it gets.
Let us use what ever freaking font we want, since the CCP fontmaster is a blind idiot. (nerfed the font-mod ability, guess it was more important then ensuring the code worked, or the servers were set up propperly...)
so lets hear it for CCP font-master and the horde of drunken monkies that implimented the new patch...trained drunken monkies 4TL!
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Second Daos
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:16:00 -
[490]
WTF???
Ok is EVE dead?
I have logon, but in char select menu i have: Your character is located within (Uphallant), which is currently loading. Please try again in a moment.
WTF? What moment? a hour? a day? When that Uphallant WILL load????
Sorry.. no respect now, no belief.
Though i will stay in game at lest for some time, u must uderstand that we PAY you to PLAY not to apologys or excuses.
This patch is untested. U saying U cat't test 25k+ players environment - why u not fill it with bots or dummy players?
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ooga buga
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:24:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Second Daos This patch is untested. U saying U cat't test 25k+ players environment - why u not fill it with bots or dummy players?
Do you know how much hardware that would take? This request is rather impractical, and still would not help on all the problems. In fact, very few.
Implimenting 30,000 more concord ships would not help.
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The patch may have broke the game, but at least you people made it in game!!!11one
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=382578 |

Evol1
J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:29:00 -
[492]
Originally by: ZegTheBrick Okay, I never thought I'd make 3 posts in one topic, but considering the last two were really just whining about stuff that isnt 'game breaking'...
Bug type thing: When a window is loading (the little spinner thing is going round) I don't seem to be able to close them. So misclicking on the wallet when it was last on transactions means I get 30 seconds of giant grey box covering most of the screen before I can do anything other than try and shift it out of the way.
Okay, so thats still not exactly game breaking...
Making a suggestion to help with the overloaded petition queue isn't "whining", but wth do I know about whining.
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ZegTheBrick
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:42:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Evol1 Making a suggestion to help with the overloaded petition queue isn't "whining", but wth do I know about whining.
Sorry that should have read 'MY last two posts'
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Merdaneth
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:50:00 -
[494]
Did 'Save a Man's Career' just prior to the crash today. Had the looted reports in my hold, talked to the agent and asked to finish the mission. I got my rewards (standings gain and mission rewards received on 21:05 GMT) and reports disappeared. Unfortunately, after I logged in again, the mission is still present in log, but obviously (reports gone) not finishable anymore. An error due to the crash?
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Rumbaar
Solitary Forsaken
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:09:00 -
[495]
I don't want to have to read the 500+ other post in this thread so I'm sure to post duplications.
As an Aussie patching was a bit easier for me as it was done many hours after all of the US and Europe has BETA tested it for me 
Now a few things I like to point out that I don't know why were changed.
Font size now many pieced of text no longer fit into the image or placeholders. item counts seem to float below the item. Descriptive text wrap to next line and overlap images. Font is far to big and bulky as a whole.
In the overview moving the open container and unlock buttons have been move when they used to be next to each other. Making for tricky getting used to. Have all icon appear even when not available make it even worse to tell. Why change it from only showing when you can access it. Seeing open container or activate jump gate all the time is just plain wasteful and confusing.
Overview settings reset, tho a pain can be easily fixed. A heads up would have been exceptable.
Unable to resize ship info boxes, not sure if this effect other info boxes or just my own current ship info.
Why is the tutorial icon showing up in the side bar, no need to clutter that display with more un-needed icons.
Info boxes like container, in stations ship and item box have there upper part display icon taking up far too much room. We are trying to save realestate space in game GUI and you are making more 'blank' space. While you're at it make the channel section smaller particularly the text type area it doesn't need to be more than 1 sentence high. Let us at least control the size of the input section.
The font size and it's lack of integration into the current system seems to be the biggest flaw and should have been fully test for display on alternate systems.
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Zimi Ziin
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:13:00 -
[496]
I can't tell you how annoyed I am that the new character sheet doesn't have the large character portrait. I spent a long time customizing it when I made the character, and now all I get of it is the crappy little snapshot on the heading bar.
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Viqer Fell
Minmatar Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:22:00 -
[497]
/me clicks his heels three times
There's no place like the Blood patch, there's no place like the blood patch
I think I am just going to go away, sit in a corner and cry and then take a weeks break and pray that when I come back the game i have spent 3 years losing girlfriends and social circles too isn't so bloody borked due to stealth improvements and bugs.
Sometimes I wish they'd freeze new accounts and stop trying to go for the next 5,000 round number of maximum consecutively online lagged out pilots in the same damn cluster. |

fatmanpaul
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:30:00 -
[498]
CCP obvious was not ready for this patch.
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Prvince Varro
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:46:00 -
[499]
Edited by: Prvince Varro on 23/08/2006 23:49:38 Just wanted the Devs to look in on the font issue:
Link to Font thread
thank you
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Shout Al'Oud
Gallente Ronin Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:48:00 -
[500]
I have read through 17 pages and didn't notice this potential bug mentioned. I have tried refining at my usual station. The message in the processing screen reads something along the lines of "with our equipment you recieve 50% yeild" itthen used to go on and say "with your skills" you can refine at 89.75% - or something close to that.
Didn't think to crunch the numbers myself to workout what % I was getting so maybe this is just a text error and i am refining at the higher rate?
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GlaxyRider
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:52:00 -
[501]
Originally by: ooga buga I read the first three pages and noticed this wasn't posted already. Sorry if this was posted in 4-16 somewhere, but I have little desire to read it all. This basically a direct copy of what I said on the 'Known Issues' section of the forum. I suggest making a sticky there as well, as it seems to make more sense to have one there as well.
---- Ditto. aka same for me. To start off, I have Windows XP Pro, service pack 2.
I am not able to connect to Tranq. I'm not crashing, my client just doesn't seem to be able to find the server. I was not able to connect to test server either after I patched it some weeks ago, but I didn't think anything of it.
Reinstalling EVE did nothing.
Restarting my computer did nothing.
Getting angry did nothing.
I am out of ideas.
Having to reinstall XP would be problematic, seeing as though I can't seem to be able to find my serial code right now.
Help me O'be Wan Kenobe, you're my only hope. Thank you for your time.
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Sky Marshal
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Posted - 2006.08.23 23:54:00 -
[502]
Edited by: Sky Marshal on 23/08/2006 23:55:38 UI BUG :
When I drag&drop an item to a ship who oversize the cargo, the "Set Quantity" appears.
By inadvertance, I expand his size. The problem is that it is impossible to reduce his size, I can only expand.
The more funny, is when I click on the left button when the resize mouse icon appears, the window expand by himself, verticaly. Each click, he wins some pixels.
This give that : http://membres.lycos.fr/tkocgif/ResizeProblem.png
Unusable. I will have to reset windows position :/
This problem don't seem appear with other windows.
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Pick Me
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:01:00 -
[503]
Originally by: Braaage Undocumented Changes POS Control Tower now shows the resistances of any hardeners online (NIIIIICE)
Yes and take a closer look at your POS module with the "Look at", you will notice that many modules got their models/textures upgraded!!!
It's very nice! Now I'm hoping for the ships! Or they have been and I'm not seeing it on my ships... |

Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:13:00 -
[504]
Edited by: Gamer4liff on 24/08/2006 00:13:07
Originally by: known issues Courier missions will be replaced in the near future
Thank you for adressing this, can't wait to see what you come up with, just make sure they are pure indy, no combat at all please .
Good work deploying the patch too, this has been one of the most stable major patches Iv'e played so far.
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:20:00 -
[505]
I've tried logging out of the forums 5 times in a row, and I still sometimes show up as being logged in if I keep browsing 
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Sylaera Nightwish
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:30:00 -
[506]
Edited by: Sylaera Nightwish on 24/08/2006 00:31:13
Originally by: Johan VanDelft
Originally by: Sylaera Nightwish
That was kinda a jerk responce. First of all, I did have a 2 day skill in training at the time. Second, i expected the patch to ATLEAST keep the game running enough to switch out skill if i needed to. I did not, could not forsee it screwing up my entire computer, if i had known it would have fubar'ed my system i would have set a longer skill to train.
READ AGAIN its not the patch time i had problems with, its the game not running AFTER said patch.
Have you tried reinstalling the game with the full client install of build 4557 instead of updating?
Yes i just tried actually, I managed to get to the Character screen, but when i select my character, it tries to load, then crashes the computer, it then reboots on its own.
When windows come back up it again showed my video card as being the problem. So something in the new patch did something to the video that my gpu doesnÆt like. Can anyone answer if this patch now requires new hardware minimum requirements? It seems odd that my video card worked fine before, and now that its patched, the game has problems with it. 
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Chade Malloy
Anarchy Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.24 00:31:00 -
[507]
Edited by: Chade Malloy on 24/08/2006 00:31:09 Whoa, lots of hate going on in here...
I¦d give it at least one more day so the devs have an actual chance to work off the (long) list of minor & major glitches that made it into this patch.
Hah, i bet most of you miss the old client right now, but imho switching to a more modern codebase was the only thing to do on longterm.
Kinda reminds me of good ol¦ CASTOR release...most of the bugs back then survived till exodus ;)
So when Kali comes, everything will be better :P
At least this gives me time to train adv. weapon upgrades to V 
dear devs, gl for the fixes!
Originally by: Oveur Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Seldon Corran
Caldari Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2006.08.24 01:41:00 -
[508]
Sorting inventory by QUANTITY does not work correctly. Works OK if you scroll to the bottom and then back to the top, but if you sort by QTY without doing this then it only seems to sort the viewable items.
If you change a skill the Charactor sheet icon flashes with a mouseover warning that no skill is training.
Please provide an option to remove icons from the menu system (i.e. Tutorials).
Please put back the warping sound and provide an option for people to remove it if they wish.. I quite liked it.
Thanks
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thatguyinpc
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Posted - 2006.08.24 01:55:00 -
[509]
Hi gang,
Anyone else getting this message when they try to get the patch by starting the game? _______________________________________________
The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again?
You will not able to enter the game until you download the patch.
___________________________________________________
I've tried it 4 times now, 3 of them with norton turned off. Any suggestions that don't involve reinstalling eve would be great.
Guy
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Phoenix Lord
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.08.24 03:06:00 -
[510]
when i undocked, my shield showed at around 10-25% (havent played in weeks). Then i had my friend shoot me and my shield jumped back up to 100% - the damage he caused. ---------------- Meet... bunneh:
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Katrana Fordring
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.24 03:34:00 -
[511]
A couple things I've noticed (some already mentioned):
- Overview settings were deleted
- Player characters who are not in a corp show "Untitled 1" through "Untitled 8" as their title if you look at their character info
- On my character info (by right-clicking my ship, selecting "show info" then clicking my portrait) my security status is 0.2 but on the area above my skill training it's 0.1
- Selecting the Journal automatically hilights every entry in the list
- Adding items to containers can randomly cause all the column widths to shrink so you can't read the entries
- Trying to shoot things at max range (or send drones to attack) gives an error that the target must be less than the max range. For example, max range on my drones is 30KM but sending them to attack a stationary object from 30KM gives an error saying "The target must be less than 30KM"
- Drones get stuck in "returning to ship" mode and don't move when told to "Return and orbit". Using "Scoop to drone bay" clears it up
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darklegionca
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Posted - 2006.08.24 04:07:00 -
[512]
when i want to buy somthing all the text is the the left side and there is no price whats up with that please fix this
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Sandeep
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Posted - 2006.08.24 04:13:00 -
[513]
Gate-cloak those in a traffic control queue. Some traffic controls are active in low sec, and it can kill. (You really don't know when you can jump, so you don't know whether to return fire or wait.)
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IsamuDyson III
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Posted - 2006.08.24 04:16:00 -
[514]
when i login my fps is around 50-70... then as i play for a bit... it drops right down to 5 fps.... there it stays...
its just unplayable.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.08.24 05:23:00 -
[515]
The warp to button is gone from cargo containers on the overview, even if you are 150km+ away from the can, it wont appear. however on the rightclick menu its still there and you can warp to it.
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Cal Spire
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Posted - 2006.08.24 06:17:00 -
[516]
got on, got Dragon, dl'd it just fine and it deployed as it should. (far as i could tell at least) but now EVE wont connect. it keeps checking Tranquility and never gets any farther than checking status. i've tried with Nortons off and on, no change. i AM on a college campus tho, so if the patch changed some of the access ports EVE uses, they'd be great to have the numbers to or a way to get them. otherwise, it's great!
capt. spire
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Sian Williams
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Posted - 2006.08.24 06:52:00 -
[517]
Edited by: Sian Williams on 24/08/2006 06:52:57 edit: double post
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Sian Williams
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Posted - 2006.08.24 06:53:00 -
[518]
Jumping through stargates sometimes crashes the game. (happened alraedy 2 times to me and 2 times to my wingman)
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Raven Seldon
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Posted - 2006.08.24 06:56:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Adam G CCP,
As a customer when I dont get the service I have paid for on occasion an appology is acceptable. However, of late all the down time and crashes and patches that fail and make you reinstall the entire game engine and loosing setups and folder structure is simply NOT acceptable. No more appologies. Give us someting, small refund, Skill time boost for the duration of the UNSCHEDULED down time, ISK credit, someting tangible becuase your appologies ain't cutting it anymore. Next step will be Moving to a new gaming provider. You do have competition, in case you may have overlooked that fact.
Not angry, no upset, simply feel I am not receiving the level of service expected and paid for.
Sincerley, Adam-G
CCP gives all customers extra days or time on their subscriptions. I'm sure they will do something similar.
Quote: Did 'Save a Man's Career' just prior to the crash today. Had the looted reports in my hold, talked to the agent and asked to finish the mission. I got my rewards (standings gain and mission rewards received on 21:05 GMT) and reports disappeared.
Unfortunately, after I logged in again, the mission is still present in log, but obviously (reports gone) not finishable anymore. An error due to the crash?
Consider yourself lucky, I got the same 'Save a Man's Career' 5 times in a row. That level 2 agent must been giving out really old missions and just 1 newly coded one, I guess 
The agent offer 'read details' didn't show up either. Nothing that matters, I usually don't accept the 'lousy' agent offers until I get something really good 
The only thing that worries me is that 2 corpmembers got blown up in an 1.0 system by pirates sitting at the gates while CONCORD is playing cards. Don't know yet if that is an exploit. Well, it's just isk... nothing really big 
Anyways, I tend to stay docked after each patch after-math. Shooting at the development team is easy but it doesn't help. Just let the guys/women do their job. Some bugs just don't show up during testing. Each release should 'minimize' the number of bugs though.
Anyways, great work guys/women and thanks for the hard work! ______________________________________________ My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes. |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.24 07:04:00 -
[520]
Originally by: Kylania Edited by: Kylania on 23/08/2006 20:20:19 Edited by: Kylania on 23/08/2006 20:17:53 [...]
Originally by: Celiss Mephysto, Good work on the known issues page, most of the stuff seems there. However I do not see the font replacement issue there. This is in my opinion, the most serious problem, as it makes the game nearly unplayable (headache-land). This is more serious than if right-click didn't work half the time. Please add it to the list.
Celiss, you do realize you're asking a dev to "fix" your ability to violate the EULA right? The ability they intentionally removed by fixing the problem that led to it? There are no "replacement fonts". You were exploiting before, now you can't. Deal.
Originally by: EULA [...]
To make the text larger at higher resolutions, please press ESC then Generic tab then click the "Use Expanded Fonts" option. This increases the size of text to a nice, easily readble value (@1650x1050 or something, with bad vision). There are a few places where text will wrap badly or overflow, but not many.
Your post and position on the topic is as good as The FontÖ and the patch disabling the ability to replace it with something usable. I know that you've seen enough threads about The FontÖ and its suckiness since it visited us for the first time with ColdWar-Patch.
I liked my replacement pretty much. I could read it, you know. --*=*=*--
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nardaq
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Posted - 2006.08.24 08:01:00 -
[521]
trying to buld some ammo @ ammo plant @ pos can the freeking ammo plant no be found @ list
offline/unachoring/achoring/online and its there again
but now its stucking @ calulation quote 
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Xendie
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.24 08:57:00 -
[522]
the alliance tag for the "ally" column on the overview is not working
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.08.24 09:39:00 -
[523]
hummm whats with the new font - or rather, the extra line of pixel in it? not, that it borks anything, but still. if it was necessary, forget i said anything ^^ oh and could the amount of packaged and batched items be bumped up by 1 or 2 pixels? oh and could you fiddle with the price-axis in the market histories? maybe cut off the cents if > 1000isk... then tens/hundreds of millions could be distinguished again oh and could you cut down on the auth codes or whatever it is that's freezing up the game (more or less) shortly when bookmarks are being set, gang's are being changed and whatnot?
humm.. and that was only a first impression :o
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Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.08.24 09:47:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Seldon Corran Please provide an option to remove icons from the menu system (i.e. Tutorials).
There is an option to do that - right-click on the icon bar and select 'Configure'. Uncheck the optional items you don't want displayed. Voila.
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THX 1138
Minmatar ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.24 09:50:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Scorpyn I've tried logging out of the forums 5 times in a row, and I still sometimes show up as being logged in if I keep browsing 
Click the 'remember me' box when you log in next time. Solves this annoying issue that we all have. -*-*-*-*-
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Kael Denvear
Gallente MAJORITY O X I D E
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:00:00 -
[526]
Corp Mail is Borked as well ... not receiving corp mail after someone has applied to join.
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Doragee
Minmatar Unknown Society
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:12:00 -
[527]
Minor glitch: Story line Mission "Angel Strike" is broken, as well as other multiple part story lines containing courier parts...well, since there are no more couriers...
Angel strike ends just after 3/10. --
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:21:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Doragee Minor glitch: Story line Mission "Angel Strike" is broken, as well as other multiple part story lines containing courier parts...well, since there are no more couriers...
Angel strike ends just after 3/10.
I did the parts 1 and 2 of 'War Situation' twice yesterday. Those are courier missions under the dungeon mission design system. --*=*=*--
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:28:00 -
[529]
The line with the current location in the item hierarchy of the market window does not wrap correctly:
Linkage
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Fridge oblivion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:31:00 -
[530]
I'm a lazy bastard and will not read 18 pages to find out if someone else had this thing too 
First thing which I saw (beside overview thingy) my drones show now as corpmembers which is all neat but I knew that already I remember that it happened before after some other patch. Blood?
second thing a bit more annoying is when you change skills your charachter sheet icon stays highlighted and clicking on the skill in progress not always show the remaining time. --------------- When I was young I wanted to be me, my childhood dream came true |
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Raven Seldon
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Posted - 2006.08.24 10:53:00 -
[531]
Originally by: Fridge oblivion I'm a lazy bastard and will not read 18 pages to find out if someone else had this thing too 
First thing which I saw (beside overview thingy) my drones show now as corpmembers which is all neat but I knew that already I remember that it happened before after some other patch. Blood?
second thing a bit more annoying is when you change skills your charachter sheet icon stays highlighted and clicking on the skill in progress not always show the remaining time.
Mine showed up as corp members too, deploying them a second time showed a blue icon though ______________________________________________ My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes. |

Levensann
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:05:00 -
[532]
Good morning dev team,
I wanted to speak out a concern about the severe short-notice ban procedure that the eve-management team has decided to enforce. Over time i heard that various members were being banned, because they thought they were lucky with a BPO on escrow, which was sold as a BPC. This is because of the known issues with these BPO's. I am not here to defend any of my corpmembers or alliance members that got banned over the last day, just wanted to put out the word that most of these players that got banned were not aware of the 'exploit' they were using. Without giving these members a warning or a temporary ban, committed players that put their heart and soul into eve might actually suffer from these patches and all their time and effort gone to waste. All because of a bug in the overview and not paying attention to the news posts.
With kind regards,
Capt Odama Security Director Castelano Enterprises Inc.
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dalman
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:43:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Phoenix Lord when i undocked, my shield showed at around 10-25% (havent played in weeks). Then i had my friend shoot me and my shield jumped back up to 100% - the damage he caused.
That happens all the time, nothing new. And it's only a display bug on your end.
As you know, cap and shield are automaticly put to 100% by docking. Well, sometimes when you dock and undock, cap and shield still shows at the lvl you had when you docked. But that is only a display bug on your end. Your ship does in fact have 100% cap and shield, and as soon as something causes your client to update (activate module using cap, shield boost, someone shooting your shield etc) you'll see your actual level (100% - whatever cap/damage was taken away).
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |

The Yzzerman
Caldari Mortis Angelus Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:53:00 -
[534]
I dont know if its said before didnt have time to read ALL post. But I cant and many others with me CANT chnage the warp in distance from 15 km to 20, 30, 40, 50 ,60 ,70 , 80 or 90km . Ther default simple dosnt work please have a look at that. Regades/matt
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Crux Australis
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:53:00 -
[535]
Edited by: Crux Australis on 24/08/2006 11:54:33 Hi !
The (now compulsory) eve font sucks big hairy donkey balls.
I will state it again: it sucks.
Did I say that T H E E V E F O N T S U C K S ?
At least, before this patch, I could replace it, now I cannot anymore.
Really guys, wtf is the problem here? This stupid font thing has gone on for months now. Get rid of that horrible, awful, blinding font... no actually leave is as it is (before you manage to pull an even more awful one) and give me back the option to change it.
Thank you.
Another thing: the icons showing the standings and status of ships in space tend to 'disappear' and reset to 'no status' if you stay in the same location for some time. No need to say that this is VERY dangerous and needs to be addressed asap !
Concerning the rest of the patch, in my personal experience, it looks great. GJ !

P.S. Did I state that the eve font sucks? No? Ok: the eve font SUXXXXXXXXXX !!!!1
P.P.S. I don't actually care if it breaks the eula or not, it makes me blind and causes me headache, hence I *want* to be able to replace it, because, guess what, IT SUCKS !
edit: sp311ing
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Lunesera Inagani
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:57:00 -
[536]
I wish I had all these 'in-game- problems you all are reporting. I am still unable to get past the 'connect' screen without the client simply disappearing. I am using WIN XP PRO SP2. I have re-installed the new build ( 4557 ) four times now... I have configured, re-configured and turned off the firewall many times...and still I am unable to get further than the 'login woman' saying "conn---" before the client simply up and vanishes. I get no error messages or anything of the sort, the game just goes away when I click connect. Still waiting for a response on any of 10 different threads on the forum, and its been over 30 hours since I filed a petition,also with no sign of any response or help in sight. After three years of playing EVE, this is by far the largest problem I have ever encountered, and CCP seems to be treating it as if its not happening. From reading the other threads, I am not the only one experiencing this. Anger has now replaced disappointment
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Crux Australis
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:00:00 -
[537]
Edited by: Crux Australis on 24/08/2006 12:04:51
Originally by: Lunesera Inagani I wish I had all these 'in-game- problems you all are reporting. I am still unable to get past the 'connect' screen without the client simply disappearing. I am using WIN XP PRO SP2. I have re-installed the new build ( 4557 ) four times now... I have configured, re-configured and turned off the firewall many times...and still I am unable to get further than the 'login woman' saying "conn---" before the client simply up and vanishes. I get no error messages or anything of the sort, the game just goes away when I click connect. Still waiting for a response on any of 10 different threads on the forum, and its been over 30 hours since I filed a petition,also with no sign of any response or help in sight. After three years of playing EVE, this is by far the largest problem I have ever encountered, and CCP seems to be treating it as if its not happening. From reading the other threads, I am not the only one experiencing this. Anger has now replaced disappointment
If you have a spare HDD I would suggest you to format it, install just the OS/drivers and eve. If it works than you know how to proceed, if it does not work you can start working on drivers/etc, if it still does not work maybe it is some HW compatibility issue.

Edit: I know that this is quite 'blunt', but in my experience it is the fastest way to work out wtf is not working (in very small environments like a stand alone PC) if conventional SW/HW debugging ways/tools fail their job.
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Kodos
Caldari The Hassassin
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:13:00 -
[538]
Edited by: Kodos on 24/08/2006 12:13:51
Originally by: The Yzzerman I dont know if its said before didnt have time to read ALL post. But I cant and many others with me CANT chnage the warp in distance from 15 km to 20, 30, 40, 50 ,60 ,70 , 80 or 90km . Ther default simple dosnt work please have a look at that. Regades/matt
As has been said many times, read the known issues page to see if it is already known about, then and only then should you post if it is not.
Originally by: Known issues Setting the default warp distance does not work. It automatically resets to 15km.

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Timorak
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:13:00 -
[539]
19 pages worth of forums messages is a bit much to read through, call me lazy.
Issues I have noted so far (which have been posted previously, I am sure.):
1) No warp sounds, entering or exiting 2) I undock and cannot see my ship (no cloaking). I can jump to different points in the system but my ship graphic never appears. I was only able to produce this error once.
z(>'.')> Don't blink or the PIKA-CHU is gonna get you! <('.'<)z |

Agent2 Holtze
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:25:00 -
[540]
this patch sux, and the hole Que thing sux tbh.
Posting and you!
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Makhan
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:29:00 -
[541]
Can't log on, location: Tash-murkon region. Stuck on entering game screen.
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:29:00 -
[542]
Originally by: Lunesera Inagani I wish I had all these 'in-game- problems you all are reporting. I am still unable to get past the 'connect' screen without the client simply disappearing. I am using WIN XP PRO SP2. I have re-installed the new build ( 4557 ) four times now... I have configured, re-configured and turned off the firewall many times...and still I am unable to get further than the 'login woman' saying "conn---" before the client simply up and vanishes. I get no error messages or anything of the sort, the game just goes away when I click connect. Still waiting for a response on any of 10 different threads on the forum, and its been over 30 hours since I filed a petition,also with no sign of any response or help in sight. After three years of playing EVE, this is by far the largest problem I have ever encountered, and CCP seems to be treating it as if its not happening. From reading the other threads, I am not the only one experiencing this. Anger has now replaced disappointment
did you tried to use Log Server pgm to try to sort out yuor trouble ? ( or at least it'll be used/asked by GMs). Above it, do you used Web petition ( i guess yes, if you can't connect) : news today say it's broken : "The Dev team is aware of an issue concerning petitions submitted through the website. If you need to submit a petition, please do so through the in-game interface. This is a high priority issue being worked on". ...
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. |

Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:34:00 -
[543]
Devs / GM's PLEASE read this thread that clicking HERE will take you too. Seems Cloaks are not working properly and it has been tested - more details on that thread, PLEASE PLEASE READ IT
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Bad Lieutenant
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:44:00 -
[544]
Hey,
I keep getting some weird graphical glitch when I've been logged on for more than half an hour. Had the same thing happen before when I ran two clients, and used to fix it by switching to fullscreen and then back to windowed. Now that doesnt work. Hard to describe, but pixels starts changing color and some elements become very stretched. Have to restart client to fix it. I've changed nothing with my graphics drivers (and yes, they are up to date).
Annoying to say the least.
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.24 13:13:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Bad Lieutenant Hey,
I keep getting some weird graphical glitch when I've been logged on for more than half an hour. Had the same thing happen before when I ran two clients, and used to fix it by switching to fullscreen and then back to windowed. Now that doesnt work. Hard to describe, but pixels starts changing color and some elements become very stretched. Have to restart client to fix it. I've changed nothing with my graphics drivers (and yes, they are up to date).
Annoying to say the least.
could be your graphics card overheating?
BOOBIES! |

Ivan Litanekh
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Posted - 2006.08.24 13:33:00 -
[546]
Originally by: Bad Lieutenant Hey,
I keep getting some weird graphical glitch when I've been logged on for more than half an hour. Had the same thing happen before when I ran two clients, and used to fix it by switching to fullscreen and then back to windowed. Now that doesnt work. Hard to describe, but pixels starts changing color and some elements become very stretched. Have to restart client to fix it. I've changed nothing with my graphics drivers (and yes, they are up to date).
Annoying to say the least.
That is a *classic* description of a graphics card overclocked just a little too far & overheating  |

Razin
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Posted - 2006.08.24 13:50:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Kenz Rider
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 23/08/2006 15:18:06 Overall the client looks sharper and responds better, nice job!All fonts, English and Russian, look nice and crisp (playing @ 1280x1024, 4xAA 16xAF, 19" LCD).
That's because you are playing on a 19" monitor at 1280x1024. That's just about grandma size text. I was fine with the fonts when played on a 17" monitor at 1280x1024, but now I only have a Thinkpad laptop which has a 15" 1400x1050 screen. Awesome screen, but fonts are just too small and down-ressing the screen jsut isn't possible because it diplays non-native resolutions very poorly.
So the problem isn't exactly with the font, it's with the GUI and text not scaling properly with changing resolutions. This has been a problem that people (myself included) complained about since beta.
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Karnoth Prime
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Posted - 2006.08.24 13:55:00 -
[548]
Not sure if this has been said already... 19 pages is a bit much to trawl through.
Anyway..
Skill training completes for one of my alts and I get this:
2006.08.24 13:24 Das Training des Skills Analytical Mind auf Level 4 wurde abgeschlossen.
The client is set to English and all other skills completed are reported in English.
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G Dabak
Magellanic Itg GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:12:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Bad Lieutenant Hey,
I keep getting some weird graphical glitch when I've been logged on for more than half an hour. Had the same thing happen before when I ran two clients, and used to fix it by switching to fullscreen and then back to windowed. Now that doesnt work. Hard to describe, but pixels starts changing color and some elements become very stretched. Have to restart client to fix it. I've changed nothing with my graphics drivers (and yes, they are up to date).
Annoying to say the least.
I've been getting that too, but only when switching between two fullscreen clients (usually when I'm doing it back and forth too quickly). I can fix it with voodoo solutions like hitting ctrl-alt-delete and then alt tabbing a few more times, but if it happens again I'll update the drivers and then try to bug report it. I'm 99% sure it's not the card overheating, because I've used 2 clients for long stretches in hot weather fine before.
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Xiaodown
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:14:00 -
[550]
GM or DEV:
Please read the thread here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=383266
I just want to post it in here, since this is the "semi-official post-patch issues thread".
The problem is that it seems cloaking does not seem to prevent an enemy from locking your ship. Appearantly, if someone is targeting you, and you cloak, you will appear to be cloaked on your screen (ship transparent, cloaking mod flashing green); HOWEVER, the enemy will still be able to complete the lock and fire on you. Testing has confirmed that the enemy can STILL SEE YOUR SHIP, even after you have cloaked, and while it appears to you that your cloak is operational.
Extensive details and testing in the above thread. If we could get a GM / DEV to comment on it, it would be much appreciated.
~Xiao |
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Toolivus
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:24:00 -
[551]
Thankyou for the subtle changes to the display, the font is great, the extra space between lines is great, the circular 'show info' buttons are great. Hell, even the way the undocking window shrinks right before you're spat out of the station is great. The rounder numbers on the market history graph are a nice touch too.
I've found that log in times are much faster, and everything seems much more responsive. Unfortunately, the problem that I had occasionally for a few weeks at one point has returned ten-fold. Every now and then, sometimes at intervals of 10 minutes, sometimes 45 minutes (woo!) the game suddenly and completely disconnects. As far as I can tell, all other applications I'm running are unaffected. There doesn't seem to be anything that triggers this, it happens while mining, fighting, simply sitting in a station chatting or being afk.
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:42:00 -
[552]
I can't be bothered to read all the threads, so I assume this has prolly already been posted, but...
I am getting a bug when entering buy orders or buying things off the market where in the buy item screen all the text is bunched to the left and you can't see the unit cost price or total cost price. Sell orders interface screen is working fine.
 Exiles Recruitment |

Daggiz
Minmatar Cronus Hunters Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:45:00 -
[553]
I actually haven't had too many of these issues at all...surprisingly.
The only two things that i have noticed, is the warp sound (which I never have sound on any ways so no biggee) and that has been mentioned before.
The other thing that noticed was the display of items in either my cargo holds or in the actual hanger itself seems to be a bit off. This happens when it is set to "icons" vs. the losts. it looks like the icon buttons are a little short. The text seems to overlap the icon itself, at least the quantity of each item.
Other than that, its been pretty good. runs cleaner and smoother for me. Undocking from stations or coming out of warp gates take maybe a couple seconds longer, but that's about it.
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Mephysto

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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:44:00 -
[554]
I am talking to the decision makers about the font replacement. In order to try and convince them I need the following from you the players:
A Bug Report with attached screenshots (zipped, zip file size under 2mb) that clearly display the current font in your monitors native resolution, the current font in a non-native res and a clear description of the monitor type you use, your typical resolution, the what the native resolution is.
Please note, this is by no means a guarantee that font replacement will become available.
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Granger
Gallente Tiberian Star
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:53:00 -
[555]
ISSUE - I had an offer from one of my agents last night and could not read the details on the offer. Every time I would click on read details, it would shutter for a second like it was going to do it, but nothing would ever come up. Decided to wait till after downtime to see if that changed things. It did not. No big deal probably would have turned it down anyway so I turned down the offer, but just thought I would let you know about it.
Other then that have had no other problems, looks great, but really do miss my Courier missions....
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Talidorn
Pandoras Mining Covanant R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.24 18:40:00 -
[556]
yay, another bug submitted...
copy a mixed case url into corp chat.
http://www.microsoft.com/SomeFunkyURL.html
Then use rt click copy url and paste it OOG.
http://www.microsoft.com/somefunkyurl.html
The copy feature now strips case. Since I use a linux server for my site, the urls won't work as copied.
Talidorn
That is the 4th bug submitted today.
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Ragnar Anchor
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:09:00 -
[557]
In all honesty, aside from a few bugs, it seems that the dragon patch has REALLY cut down on lag for me, as I run two clients on one PC, i have noticed that the market window and such usual laggy areas are now accessing much faster than before. Good job guys, well worth the wait!!!
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Minoti Clor
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:10:00 -
[558]
Little bug that no-one will ever care about, but a bug nonetheless...
Deleting a folder in the Places tab of People&Places only deletes the folder if it is empty. Otherwise, only the bookmarks in it are deleted.
Bug Report submitted. Sure, it's a tiny thing, but it will take a dev about 20 seconds to fix - just need to remember to deleteFolder() after the deleteBookmarkInFolder(folderName) loop :o)
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Johan VanDelft
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:52:00 -
[559]
I don't know if it is a bug or not, but I just bought some new skills and I noticed two things: 1) Prices are higher (ok can happen) 2) After I bought my skillbook, the price dropped a few isk
Example: I bought High Speed Maneuvering for 314,331.07 ISK, and now (after the buy) this station (Scolluzer VII - Moon 1 - University of Caille school) shows the price to be 314,222.18 ISK while before the buy it indeed showed the price I bought it for.
So is this a bug, or is this a new form of market dynamics?
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rodgerd
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:54:00 -
[560]
Glad to see a fix coming for courier missions, especially if that includes the new player mission!
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Bex Beere
Caldari Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:04:00 -
[561]
Bye bye Recon ship. Engaged cloak, I cloaked on screen, the green light was flashing on the cloak, but the gate campers could somehow still lock me, scramble and kill me. I accept the risks of low-sec but being killed while cloaked is either a bug or an exploit, probably the former.
Damn covert ops cloak wasn't destroyed so even if the Arazu is replaced when the petition finally gets to the head of the queue in 4-6 months it won't be replaced. I also doubt the full set of +3 implants and HX-1 mining implant will be replaced either.
Oh well, another patch, another bug. Whine over, please pass the cheese.
Bex Beere Director Ominous Corp
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Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:05:00 -
[562]
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Kenz Rider
Originally by: Razin Edited by: Razin on 23/08/2006 15:18:06 So the problem isn't exactly with the font, it's with the GUI and text not scaling properly with changing resolutions. This has been a problem that people (myself included) complained about since beta.
It's both. You take a bad font and make it smaller it gets worse. - - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - - - Little known fact: If DS had RL money, he would have lost it in Enron.
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Dr O'Mara
Day One Boot Camp
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Posted - 2006.08.24 20:06:00 -
[563]
Buy order limited to station does not work as far as i can tell.
I had buyorder for a week limited to station in 2 different regions. In both cases they where satisfied from distanced systems (5+ jumps but still in region).
I admit, i didnt read every page of the 19, so maybe this is old news.
/SPOF
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Bawldeux IV
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:05:00 -
[564]
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it lately..
THE FONT SUCKS!
Let us change the font like we used to, SO WE CAN READ THE GAME CONTENT!
While this isn't an issue with all, those that CAN NOT READ THE SUCK ARSE FONT would like to change it like we used to, so we can read the content.
We can always just subscribe to others games, and would hate to be FORCED into quiting Eve, due to a blind as a freaking bat "font master" screwing up the fonts.
To recap: THE FONT SUCKS!
How to move your T2 bpo's |

Battou
Caldari Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:10:00 -
[565]
I like the font and I am really impressed with the changes CCP has made. The game feels so much more user friendly now.
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KPoff
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:13:00 -
[566]
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard I can't be bothered to read all the threads, so I assume this has prolly already been posted, but...
I am getting a bug when entering buy orders or buying things off the market where in the buy item screen all the text is bunched to the left and you can't see the unit cost price or total cost price. Sell orders interface screen is working fine.
I am having this problem when i try to sell items, the bunching up to the left and not being able to see prices...but i have 2 chars and its only happening with 1 of them so...<shrugs>
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:41:00 -
[567]
My 20km scrambler I had fitted has turned into a 7.5km one. How that for a magic trick huh? 
/Lowa
NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003! |

gfldex
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Posted - 2006.08.24 21:58:00 -
[568]
Assambly arrays onlined past patch are not shown in the installation tag under sience & industry. Thus building at a POS is not possible in such arrays anymore.
-- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Cuisinart
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:37:00 -
[569]
Well, I can say that random CTD's seem to have returned now. CTD's had become extremely rare for me, but after just 3 hours or so playing post patch I've had 4.
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dalman
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:03:00 -
[570]
The mod told me to cross post as it for some reason is better so here we go:
Originally by: Xiaodown
Originally by: ElCoCo
I always thought it should work like this tbh
Yeah, it was always supposed to work like "Your client shows you as cloaked, and your cloaking module is on, but everyone else can see you".
That's exactly how a cloak is supposed to work. It's definatley supposed to cost 60 million isk, and do nothing.
No, what he means is the mechanics now in place: You were not supposed to be able to cloak during the locking phase!
The cloak (and especially covert ops cloak) is designed for commando and espionage. It's 'exlusively' a module for combat. The use is to: * possibility of having the "target caller" cloaked at the battlefield. * possibility of getting accurate intel on hostile position. This includes much more than the scanner is giving: Where around an object are they positioned? Towards where are they aligned? And especially, it goes for the involvement of POSes: How many of the ships at the hostile POS are aligned and how many seems to be afk? * possibility of setting up 'warp in points'. For many reasons: A 'loading point' to reduce lag. A point for T2 ammo long distance fire. A point to land dictors/ceptors upon hostile fleet. A 'warp-out-point' within the grid. etc etc etc.
But somehow, somewhere at some time, things went very very very wrong. For some reason ppl could cloak after ppl had started locking them. This turned the covert op into a 'god-mode-ship' (but without offensive powers). It could be used to move anywhere at any time with zero risk. And so everyone, including mom and grandmother, had to get a covert ops for themselves to move items completely risk-free (against the very foundation of EvE). And as a result the price on covert ops is very high.
Of course you're not supposed to have your client say you're cloaked when you're not. But that is an insignificant bug compared to the bug that you've been able to cloak during the locking phase. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:07:00 -
[571]
Nice patch. Installed it Wednesday and most everything seems slick. 
One little thing though that sticks out to me now, is the format for distance on the overview. May I suggest (if it hasnÆt been already in the last ten pages I didnÆt read) that it is far easier to quickly read a distance written as æ23 kmÆ than one written as æ23kmÆ (or 8209 m vs. 8209m) Add all that mishmash of numbers and letters up to a whole overview and frequent squinting soon ensues. I checked an old screenshot and it used to have a space. (Vision is 20/15 btw on a 19Æ LCD in its native res, so it isnÆt æcause IÆm blind.) No big deal but it could go on a æwould be niceÆ list of fixes.
(The courier runner outcry couldÆve been avoided by an earlier announcement of that Tuesday plan youÆve got posted up now. Personally I was expecting no less than 2 weeks to a (or) month(s) at best for restoration of balance to the universe. I was probably one of the more optimistic ones with that assumption.)
Patience FTW. 
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Hanover Fists
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:22:00 -
[572]
Is each mission suppose to replay over and over, on average, since the patch, ive done only 2 different missions over and over for more than 12hrs of play time now
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Kaathar Rielspar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:49:00 -
[573]
reprocessing ammo:
if i have 4 stacks with 100 units of ammo in them each, it will show in the right click menu that 400 items are to be reprocessed instead of 4. the reprocessing works as expected though.
this also affects missiles, and may affect hybrid ammo/laser crystals/cap booster charges.
i've bugreported it
____________________
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
Originally by: Eximius Josari If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs?
Overpriced Nos victims.
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dalman
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.25 00:01:00 -
[574]
Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar reprocessing ammo:
if i have 4 stacks with 100 units of ammo in them each, it will show in the right click menu that 400 items are to be reprocessed instead of 4. the reprocessing works as expected though.
this also affects missiles, and may affect hybrid ammo/laser crystals/cap booster charges.
i've bugreported it
And how exacly isn't 400 units of ammo = 400 items? That's how it's always worked, with ore as well. That you need a certain 'batch' number to reprocess hardly changes the number of items, eh?
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |

sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.25 00:10:00 -
[575]
did anything "capital" get fixed? so many bugs and yet this was supposed to be a big patch with fixes and optimizations? yet fighters still will not mwd back... while other drones do... and a number of other issues still there
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Lonewolfnight
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Posted - 2006.08.25 00:56:00 -
[576]
I've run into an interesting problem. Using a recon frigate I fit probe launcher and cloaking device. Fly out to some random location. Attempt to launch probes while cloak is active. I know you shouldn't be able to. It will post a message about being unable to launch probes while cloaked. A moment later the probe launcher is empty of ALL of it's probes. Poof gone noda, into the ether they go! The do not appear in the cargo hold or in space.
This has been tested by 2 other corp m8's.
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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2006.08.25 01:34:00 -
[577]
I had a few other overview issues come up.
One is that a couple hostile NPC ships (sansha's) were displayed with red text, but a white size icon. And after being destroyed, they did not dissapear from the overview. At one point I had 5 NPC's on the overview, but none were actually present.
It has been very unresponsive to change in status of player ships as well. If you have it set that gang members aren't shown, and somebody else enters into the gang, they will remain on the overview until you close/re-open it.
Another time I jumped through a gate, and after entering the system I did not get any of the distances to objects while cloaked. After uncloaking, all the distances showed up normally. At first, I thought it was a new change and I found it interesting, but this only happened a couple times.
And as a curiosity, were the lighting effects or something else on the ship skins changed at all? I can't place the exact difference yet, but they look different. A bit sharper and better lit I think.
The whole system also feels more responsive. Less delay when going through mail, markets and a lot of things that usually have a bit of lag to them.
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Pardack
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.25 01:59:00 -
[578]
Edited by: Pardack on 25/08/2006 02:04:17 I saw a couple mentions of having to re-scroll through Overview everytime you select/deselect an object.
I've found that this is only the case if you have more than one overview category open.
If you only have one category open at a time I didn't notice this bug. When you have more than one category open (Ships and Structures in this example), the display resets and you have to re-scroll down to (de)select another item from that category. In this case I had Ships open and was (de)selecting items from Structures and had to scroll down to begin the process again everytime something was (de)selected.
Simply closing the Ships category solved the problem. I tried it again with other categories and the same problem existed.
Nothing huge, but a pain if you don't know or figure out the workaround, especially in light of overview settings being reset.
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Lunabi
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Posted - 2006.08.25 06:02:00 -
[579]
There is a new system, called "Trossere" connected to "Vittenyn" after the patch. This is deep inside the Gallente sovereignty. The ingoing and the outgoing gate of "Trossere" are the caldari gate models and NOT the gallente! All others gates around the Sinq Laison region are Gallente gates.
I know this is a minor bug but i hope it will be fixed soon!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.25 06:23:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Cuisinart Well, I can say that random CTD's seem to have returned now. CTD's had become extremely rare for me, but after just 3 hours or so playing post patch I've had 4.
Use the free tool Pingplotter to check your connection. A few pilots reported a lot of packet loss yesterday. If you're routed past the same half-dead boxes, you might be able to poke your ISP. --*=*=*--
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn Placid Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.25 06:37:00 -
[581]
Originally by: dalman But that is an insignificant bug compared to the bug that you've been able to cloak during the locking phase.
Not being able to cloak when someone is trying to lock you would make Stealth Bombers even more useless than they are now.
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Dr O'Mara
Day One Boot Camp
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Posted - 2006.08.25 07:21:00 -
[582]
"If a ship cloaks while it is being locked, the lock cycle is not broken. The cloaked ship will then decloak when the cycle completes."
Quote from Known Issues page (http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/knownissues.asp).
So the intended behaviour seems to be the old behaviour. If you cloak before lock is complete, lock will be broken (but this is currently bugged).
/Dr
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Antonio Freedman
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Posted - 2006.08.25 09:06:00 -
[583]
I've noticed a few issues with cloack too.
I cloaked when speeding to a jet can and when within 5000m's of it the module quite rightly deactivated and I couldn't reactivate due to it needing to recharge. What did happen that was weird was that my view still showed me as cloaked!
A quick trip to a rat belt and they locked me ok. Hung out near a gate at sniping distance but my calls in local "can you see me?" went unheeded but as I was in low sec at the time I guess that's understandable.
Attempted to cloak again and the ship model entirely disappeared! Then on uncloak all returned to normal.
I'll try to reproduce this and if I can formally report it.
RE cloaking whilst being locked. I agree that you have always been able to do this and that only when you are locked can you not cloak. Hence the recharge time, to give those ships you are uncloaking in front of time to lock you fully before you hide again.
My thruppence worth :)
Ant |

Lucre
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.25 09:07:00 -
[584]
Originally by: Cuisinart Well, I can say that random CTD's seem to have returned now. CTD's had become extremely rare for me, but after just 3 hours or so playing post patch I've had 4.
Same here. Both nights since the patch I've had 4-5 "connection lost" after several weeks of their being pretty rare. Usually happened to both clients which suggests a comms issue, but usually I've been able to reconnect without rebooting the router which suggests the connection isn't actually dropping. It could be the line, but it's a remarkable coincidence if the fault exactly aligned with the new patch. Has the new patch perhaps lowered its acceptable thresholds for determining "lost" connections?
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LC Sulla
BGG Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.25 09:39:00 -
[585]
I too have had a number (about 4) of CTD's since the patch. Before the patch CTD's were extremely rare on my system.
My warp sounds are also missing.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2006.08.25 10:12:00 -
[586]
A bug with reloading weapons has reappered.
This bug activates when one or more weapons are already reloading automatically, having been emptied, and the player then manually selects the reload all option.
What follows is all weapons go into an reloading attempt but they never complete the cycle. They will continue flashing and not reload until their action is broken by manually dragging one of the weapons icons to a different slot. They can then be reloaded manually, one at a time.
If this happens, the reload all option will be broken until the UI is reset by docking or jumping.
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Burlock Ironfist
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.25 10:37:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Antonio Freedman I've noticed a few issues with cloack too.
I cloaked when speeding to a jet can and when within 5000m's of it the module quite rightly deactivated and I couldn't reactivate due to it needing to recharge. What did happen that was weird was that my view still showed me as cloaked!
A quick trip to a rat belt and they locked me ok. Hung out near a gate at sniping distance but my calls in local "can you see me?" went unheeded but as I was in low sec at the time I guess that's understandable.
Attempted to cloak again and the ship model entirely disappeared! Then on uncloak all returned to normal.
I'll try to reproduce this and if I can formally report it.
RE cloaking whilst being locked. I agree that you have always been able to do this and that only when you are locked can you not cloak. Hence the recharge time, to give those ships you are uncloaking in front of time to lock you fully before you hide again.
My thruppence worth :)
Ant
i would like to see the claok bug on the official list... or at least somone confiming that are looking at it. Its very bropken at the moment and needs to be looked at.
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DrAtomic
Polytope Ghosts of Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:22:00 -
[588]
Another overview related issue:
1. If you create a container preset but have friendly ships (gang, corp and alliance) disabled in your overall overview settings then friendly containers (i.e. your loot drops) are not being shown on the overview (i.e. containers are clasified as ships).
Insurance related issues:
1. Insurance expiry notice is not given before you open the insurance section in a station. Plus Insurance expiry is date/time stamped with the moment you open the insurance section in a station.
*. Have insurance expire on your ships, buy a new ship one week later, open insurance section in order to insure the new ship and you'll receive the insurance expiry notices.
2. Insurance expiry notice doesnot state which ship lost it's insurance.
*. Open one of the above created insurance expiry notices and you'll note that no info is given on which ship the insurance ran out on (might have to do with shipname changed, or ship being repackaged and assembled). ----------------------------------------------- The BIG Lottery |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:27:00 -
[589]
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds A bug with reloading weapons has reappered.
This bug activates when one or more weapons are already reloading automatically, having been emptied, and the player then manually selects the reload all option.
What follows is all weapons go into an reloading attempt but they never complete the cycle. They will continue flashing and not reload until their action is broken by manually dragging one of the weapons icons to a different slot. They can then be reloaded manually, one at a time.
If this happens, the reload all option will be broken until the UI is reset by docking or jumping.
It wasn't gone in the first place, it was just pretty rare. --*=*=*--
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:50:00 -
[590]
Edited by: Spix ''UK on 25/08/2006 11:55:20 Edited by: Spix ''UK on 25/08/2006 11:52:35 CCP -- I dont know what The **** u call this patch.. but its a joke.. 1st u wrecked missions the other month making all level 3s alot longer.. & killing level 4 drone missions with less loot , now the market is bugged.. am gettin 0 - 5mil repeating its self over & over for items the price history has went right up the wall... 28mil Damge control showing as 2 - 8min / 2- 8 / 2- 8 / 2-8 I mean wtf.. also .. a NPC toon has 8 titles.. the bpcs are set as BPO's co ops cloaks are bugged.. the list goes on... what do you plan to do about it ? When is the next patch or should I say Fix.. or even worse... another DOOM patch sorry i ment Dragon Didnt I ?
O and another thing.. the LP system.. & missons needs to be changed back to normal.. U have 15k lp you get a 15k LP offer.. not the case any more... now you might get a 8k lp offer.. why have you done this , It should of stayed the way it was instead of making the pool bigger & given less then the current LPS you have.. also.. 2days of missions & I have had the same 4 missions over & over from 2 different agents ...
about the LP system -- I had 30k LP with 1 agent 30 Qual after connections & social skill etc etc, good standing
I got a 18k LP offer when I had 30k LP ?? .. Why did you change this.. It was fine the way it was.. last month..
these are FACTS... We want answers.. enuff said really.
Please keep feedback constructive and on-topic. Negative, spam or off-topic posts will be removed.
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:52:00 -
[591]
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds A bug with reloading weapons has reappered.
This bug activates when one or more weapons are already reloading automatically, having been emptied, and the player then manually selects the reload all option.
What follows is all weapons go into an reloading attempt but they never complete the cycle. They will continue flashing and not reload until their action is broken by manually dragging one of the weapons icons to a different slot. They can then be reloaded manually, one at a time.
If this happens, the reload all option will be broken until the UI is reset by docking or jumping.
Confirmed.
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Crux Australis
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:52:00 -
[592]
Originally by: Mephysto I am talking to the decision makers about the font replacement. In order to try and convince them I need the following from you the players:
A Bug Report with attached screenshots (zipped, zip file size under 2mb) that clearly display the current font in your monitors native resolution, the current font in a non-native res and a clear description of the monitor type you use, your typical resolution, the what the native resolution is.
Please note, this is by no means a guarantee that font replacement will become available.
First of all, thx for the answer Mephysto.
I have already bugreported this issue so many times (with screenshots) that no, I am not going to do it again.
Plz, tell to the decision makers that (in case they didn't know, which I seriously don't think, eh?) there are some fonts that are universally used on the net for their main characteristic: readability. What is the problem in just using, for instance, a standard VERDANA font? Seriously, what is the problem ?

Or make the font selectable from a list.
Or just give us back the opportunity to replace the fonts: why did u take that away? What unnominable exploits did this possibility lead to?

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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.08.25 11:55:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds A bug with reloading weapons has reappered.
This bug activates when one or more weapons are already reloading automatically, having been emptied, and the player then manually selects the reload all option.
What follows is all weapons go into an reloading attempt but they never complete the cycle. They will continue flashing and not reload until their action is broken by manually dragging one of the weapons icons to a different slot. They can then be reloaded manually, one at a time.
If this happens, the reload all option will be broken until the UI is reset by docking or jumping.
Confirmed.
Confirmed
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fatmanpaul
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Posted - 2006.08.25 12:32:00 -
[594]
I still have "unknow server" so I have been unable to get in the game since the dragon patch. Win XP SP2 no router, cable modem. cache cleared. No customer service to help....auto replues do not count.
I'd call that a fatal error.Its going to be fatal to ccp's wallet pretty soon.
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.08.25 12:42:00 -
[595]
Originally by: fatmanpaul I still have "unknow server" so I have been unable to get in the game since the dragon patch. Win XP SP2 no router, cable modem. cache cleared. No customer service to help....auto replues do not count.
I'd call that a fatal error.Its going to be fatal to ccp's wallet pretty soon.
Sux 4 jo 
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Azaries
Caldari Chosen Path
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Posted - 2006.08.25 14:16:00 -
[596]
I haven't seen a Dev post or I might have overlooked the thread but please stop gate queuing. I'm not sure if this was an accident or an actual "feature" but it makes EvE a tedium to play.
Imagine you have some buddies 2 jumps away (real scenario that happend last night) and they say hey we are camping and have some incoming hostiles. So I get my Crow and start trying to travel into a .4 and then .3 before hitting 0.0. Well I get stuck in the first system with 14 people for roughly 15 - 20 minutes. I jump through and then get stuck in the next system for another 20 minutes. By the time I reach my friends 45 minutes had passed and the enemies are long gone and I have spent an hour doing notthing but waiting at a freaking gate.
For me $12 dollars or whatever I pay is not worth sitting in a system looking at a gate for an hour. If EvE is too populated and this feature is going to stay as is I guess it was a good ride and EvE will no longer be fun to play in my eyes.
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VFR ViLLaN
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.08.25 15:39:00 -
[597]
I have identified a couple of issues:
1. My skill in training (Minmatar Cruiser Lvl V) is counting down the time to complete, however my skillpoints have not increased since the patch, either in the charactersheet or logging into My Character from this website.
2. Fitting a Tracking Computer II does not apply an optimal range bonus.
HEEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!!
I have tried a fresh install but no joy.
What should I do next?
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RobotHead NoPants
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:03:00 -
[598]
Edited by: RobotHead NoPants on 25/08/2006 16:02:57
Originally by: VFR ViLLaN I have identified a couple of issues:
1. My skill in training (Minmatar Cruiser Lvl V) is counting down the time to complete, however my skillpoints have not increased since the patch, either in the charactersheet or logging into My Character from this website.
I've noticed that i have the same problem with all my characters i'm worried that i may exceed my clone and not know it
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Tumbles
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:15:00 -
[599]
VFR - try stopping your training and then starting it again. The skill points in your profile only update when u change skill training(or stop training). It has always been like this.
cheers, Tumbles
Originally by: VFR ViLLaN I have identified a couple of issues:
1. My skill in training (Minmatar Cruiser Lvl V) is counting down the time to complete, however my skillpoints have not increased since the patch, either in the charactersheet or logging into My Character from this website.
2. Fitting a Tracking Computer II does not apply an optimal range bonus.
HEEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!!
I have tried a fresh install but no joy.
What should I do next?
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dosperado
Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:18:00 -
[600]
Edited by: dosperado on 25/08/2006 16:18:52
Originally by: VFR ViLLaN I have identified a couple of issues:
1. My skill in training (Minmatar Cruiser Lvl V) is counting down the time to complete, however my skillpoints have not increased since the patch, either in the charactersheet or logging into My Character from this website.
2. Fitting a Tracking Computer II does not apply an optimal range bonus.
HEEEEEELLLLPPPPP!!!
I have tried a fresh install but no joy.
What should I do next?
You can only see your updated skillpoints if you e.g. switch to another skill and then back to your previous. Your total skillpoints are not updated while training a skill!! This is normal... ____________________ Community Manager of EVE-World.de EVE-World
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VFR ViLLaN
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:29:00 -
[601]
Originally by: dosperado
You can only see your updated skillpoints if you e.g. switch to another skill and then back to your previous. Your total skillpoints are not updated while training a skill!! This is normal...
Oh well, the world is good then! Thanks for that dosperado!!
Just need to sort out the Tracking Computer problem now...
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A Brr
Gallente Tech-5-Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.25 16:51:00 -
[602]
Every now and then i got a client freeze while undocking, right after log in. I am trying to log this with the logserver and file a bug report when successfull. --- The greatest crap CCP designed into EVE: Next generation manufacturing. |

Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.25 17:24:00 -
[603]
everyone knows about the warpto> set default doesnt work right? warp to 15km sticks, none of the others will
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Griel
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:02:00 -
[604]
Haven't found much on this over the forums, but since the patch I seem unable to clone jump to any of my clones. I stop the skill that's training, select clone jump, get the message 'Are you sure you want to proceed with the clone jump? The process of doing so will result in the destruction of the existing clone you have installed here given that your current body will replace it.' Select yes and nothing happens. Rebooting the client makes no difference at all. Anyone else having this issue?
It's mightily frustrating 
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WANT2TALK2 WHOSINCOMMAND
AFK Mining
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Posted - 2006.08.25 18:14:00 -
[605]
o.0
I can see having to wait to jump into a VERY populated system because of server load...but didn't that get fixed when the new servers were added? anyways...why wasn't this in the patch notes? This was a hugh disapointment surprize!? Had a freind out in 0.0 with NO ONE around for jumps...and he had to log off because he was stuck in that system. Tryed to leave it but couldn't due to this new "Traffic Advisory" lol what traffic? there was no one around. I find it hard to believe that CCP can take our money for something that is this broken and say nothing....
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.25 19:14:00 -
[606]
1. When you rename a can in space, the overview no longer auto updates.
2. When you change a partially trained skill, the character sheet icon stays lit, and says no skill is being trained.
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Still Hart
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:32:00 -
[607]
Originally by: Griel Haven't found much on this over the forums, but since the patch I seem unable to clone jump to any of my clones. I stop the skill that's training, select clone jump, get the message 'Are you sure you want to proceed with the clone jump? The process of doing so will result in the destruction of the existing clone you have installed here given that your current body will replace it.' Select yes and nothing happens. Rebooting the client makes no difference at all. Anyone else having this issue?
It's mightily frustrating 
One of my corpies reported this problem as well. I haven't tried jumping yet myself... _____________________
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Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:48:00 -
[608]
Edited by: Admentus Cor''vion on 25/08/2006 22:49:01 Anyone tried moving a fleet around? Bloody hell like pulling teeth.
2006.08.25 22:21:50 Notify RR-D05 Traffic Control is currently experiencing heavy load and is unable to process your request. You are #2 in queue for jump-in.
>_<
The lag is actually WORSE (much worse)
Edit -
There were 2 people in RR.
This needs to be tweaked and fixed. _______________________________________________
Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
"The end and the beginning."
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:11:00 -
[609]
Kieron - do you have more info on hand about everything that has been said so far ?
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Pathe
Caldari The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.26 00:42:00 -
[610]
Edited by: Pathe on 26/08/2006 00:43:10 My game freezes when I go through gates and then crashes before loading up on the other side. I have just replaced my video card drivers but it has not helped, am hoping I am not the only one having this issue. ------------------------------------------ 'Not everyone gets to be an Astronault' - evetv 'wow this is cool'- Innominate Nightmare |
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Siri Blue
Gallente Eve University
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Posted - 2006.08.26 03:18:00 -
[611]
After the dragon Patch wiped out all but the Insane Industrialist lvl 4 courier missions, I managed to get 16 of those out of my agents and did them...and then got my important storyline mission as usual...usual I THOUGHT... It was a Transaction Data Delivery, so I was very happy cause it promised me a +4 Memory implant as a reward... I finished the mission........and got a +1 Memory implant! What the Frakk!  So it seems important storyline agents kinda got srewed by the dragon code patch as well... The whole thing did not bother me much as I thought, "Hey, I found a bug and am gonna report it and will then get my stupid +1 implant replaced by the +4 which it should have been originally..." But then... the GM who looked into the petition I wrote doesn't want to replace the implant...
Is that a normal code of conduct when this was a blatantly clear bug? 16 lvl 4 missions = 1 lvl 4 important mission if lvl 4 mission = Transaction Data Delivery then Reward = +4 implant NOT +1 
I hope this bug gets fixed again on Tuesday with the reintroduction of coureir missions into the game and I still kinda hope I get my +4 implant.
Thanks for your time ;)
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TeCapio
Caldari Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.26 07:09:00 -
[612]
I have been getting 2 major problems:
1. Very difficult to log in, I start the Eve client, enter username/pswd, and then it just sits there, if I press the 'connect' button a 2nd time I get 'Local Session Corrupt'. It can take several retires for this to work.
2. Black screen most times when I dock/undock from a station. Only way to clear this is to relog. Other players can see me undock so it's just the client end.
I have done a clean re-install of XP (during the extended DT), upgraded all the latest patches for XP, Graphics etc (ATI 740XL), and even downloaded the client again and re-installed it.
This is driving me nuts.
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Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 07:53:00 -
[613]
Little bug : After Dragon's patch i trained Daytrading skill from 0 to 4, marcket's window don't update "modification range" which stay to "limited to station" instead to show 20 jumps, but skill is effective and work fine, i checked it. Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. |

Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.26 08:38:00 -
[614]
Any chance of 'renewing' this thread with a list of known issues? 21 pages is getting a bit much to find what's been reported. 
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GHarris
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.26 09:47:00 -
[615]
I used to get fairly bad memory leakage if I was ever in a gang that was travelling over a reasonable distance, which would force me to have to relog from time to time in hostile territory. Since the patch the memory leak is gone. Thanks very much for fixing that :). |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.26 10:10:00 -
[616]
This patch has created some really strange bugs... I cant reproduce this one, but the scanner suddenly doesnt show the "Type" column when I scan. Ive relogged and it doesnt help. No idea why it decided to do this to me... it worked for a while, then I must have done something to make it disappear. Sorry I cant say what it was... I know that sucks for a bug discussion. :/
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

Fantome
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.26 11:10:00 -
[617]
Originally by: Brutor Shaun Any chance of 'renewing' this thread with a list of known issues? 21 pages is getting a bit much to find what's been reported. 
Linkage for known issues list
(That list don't resume all bugs reported in those 21 pages) Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum. |

Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.26 12:47:00 -
[618]
The "buy" button disappeared on the market screen and I can't set buy orders. If I set a buy order by right clicking on an item and clicking buy, I can only set it with a range of Station.
Before I could set it for whatever range I wanted.
--[23] Member--
Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
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Maya Rkell
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.26 13:18:00 -
[619]
"The login queue displayed on the login screen is not accurate. The queue is disabled at all times (unless we put a user limit on the server as we did last night for our dry runs)."
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=384433
Um. IAM time.
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Pardack
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.26 13:39:00 -
[620]
Edited by: Pardack on 26/08/2006 13:40:57 Two things:
1. I have a BM to a station that I frequent. There's a rally point ~250k from the station which I warped to. I couldn't use the default warp to 15k (got an error saying it couldn't lock on to the location) and had to go to the list of warp distances and manually choose warp to 15k.
2. Being 250k away, when I tried to use the station BM, it only had the option to 'approach' and no 'warp to' option. I tried the approach item and surprisingly it warped me to my bm on top of the station. Pre-patch, approach would cause your ship to impulse to your target and there was a 'warp to' option for the BM.
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Pardack
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.26 13:43:00 -
[621]
Originally by: Maya Rkell "The login queue displayed on the login screen is not accurate. The queue is disabled at all times (unless we put a user limit on the server as we did last night for our dry runs)."
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=384433
Um. IAM time.
Linkified.
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Pardack
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:00:00 -
[622]
Another issue is on the Fittings screen in a station. The max targeting range is out of whack. Screenshot
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.26 14:38:00 -
[623]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/08/2006 14:37:52
Originally by: Pardack Another issue is on the Fittings screen in a station. The max targeting range is out of whack. Screenshot
Yeah, ive noticed that too...
--- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |

A Brr
Gallente Tech-5-Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.26 15:33:00 -
[624]
Originally by: Dark Shikari The "buy" button disappeared on the market screen and I can't set buy orders. If I set a buy order by right clicking on an item and clicking buy, I can only set it with a range of Station.
Before I could set it for whatever range I wanted.
The buy button is now on the right side between buy and sell window. --- The greatest crap CCP designed into EVE: Next generation manufacturing. |

Blair II
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Posted - 2006.08.26 16:13:00 -
[625]
Know that the text wrapping has been mentioned but not sure if this specific one has been noted: While docked in the fitting screen - max targeting range wraps over the distance |

Azar Fereshteh
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Posted - 2006.08.26 17:56:00 -
[626]
I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.08.26 20:30:00 -
[627]
Originally by: Azar Fereshteh I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
WAS IST DAS !! ahhh
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hendo001
Caldari Quantum Tech Mining
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Posted - 2006.08.26 21:35:00 -
[628]
here is a link to a thread the devs really need to read Linkage
We'd Like the queue system gone please and a response from the dev team too...
QTM is currently recruiting miners convo me or send an evemail in game Visit our forums Linkage
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Azar Fereshteh
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Posted - 2006.08.26 21:51:00 -
[629]
Should the station at Krilmokenur VII - Moon 8 really be called "Republic Military School School"
Seems like one school too many to me.
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Pardack
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.27 00:06:00 -
[630]
Originally by: hendo001 here is a link to a thread the devs really need to read Linkage
We'd Like the queue system gone please and a response from the dev team too...
Seconded, thirded and fourthed 
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Julia Reave
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Posted - 2006.08.27 07:55:00 -
[631]
Edited by: Julia Reave on 27/08/2006 07:54:46 double-post, deleted.
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Julia Reave
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Posted - 2006.08.27 07:55:00 -
[632]
Originally by: hendo001 here is a link to a thread the devs really need to read Linkage
We'd Like the queue system gone please and a response from the dev team too...
Signed.
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Tyleritus
adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.27 08:24:00 -
[633]
Im currently unable to Jump clone since the patch but weveryone else can, when i select jump to clone after stopping skill it asks me to confirm it and only one button is there ''ok'' instead of the ''yes'' or ''no'' .
Adeptus Gattacus Recruitment Thread |

Brutas Brutai
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Posted - 2006.08.27 09:15:00 -
[634]
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UK Glum
Gallente Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2006.08.27 09:21:00 -
[635]
not seen these in the known issues list.....
in "my assets" in the map it only displays the items for one station. This is not the first (alphabetically) seems to be maybe the one with the most assets. I have region wide buy orders so get several stations per system
secondly is with shortcuts. I have alt-x to undock and alt-a to toggle the autopilot. I used to be able to chain the shortcuts, ie alt-x-a which to begin the exit procedure and the also engage the autopilot while I was undocking
This meant I could alt-x-a with the freighter and go to afk for a moment. on my return the freighter would be out of the station and aligning for warp
The autopilot will not toggle until I have completly exited the station. Just makes a slow freighter exit all that more slower :(
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DefConETT
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Posted - 2006.08.27 10:22:00 -
[636]
Hi, I have been following this thread since it started and this weekend I and my pals noticed something while mining. It seems like the "name cargo can" is not working anymore. After jettisoning the ore and you want to name the CC the namewindow will appear but nothing happens when pushing apply, is this new feature or simply a display bug? //DefConETT
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Pfrundpaechter
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Posted - 2006.08.27 11:05:00 -
[637]
the overview bug is an old one hit tab twice for a refreshed overview and the new name should apply
german version bug: Estamels Invul Field is now known as Estamels Heat Dissipation Field
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Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.27 12:44:00 -
[638]
Originally by: UK Glum in "my assets" in the map it only displays the items for one station. This is not the first (alphabetically) seems to be maybe the one with the most assets. I have region wide buy orders so get several stations per system
This gave me a few second total panic until the Assets icon assured me that most of my stockpiles of stuff hadn't vanished 
It's not most assets, not alphabetical, maybe just the first from the unsorted station list. Yes I know this means the Map Assets display loads faster especially for Region wide Buyers but Traders need all assets displayed on the Map so we can plan how to pick them up.
Typically I tour round several systems filling up my indy and then return to a central depot. --- Trikassi Enterprises, oiling the jumpgates of commerce since 2004 |

Crux Australis
MotorSaikol LadrUNZ
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Posted - 2006.08.27 15:09:00 -
[639]
While I can see that omgwtfgamebreaking issues like The sound effect for entering/leaving warp is missing or Players in NPC corps have "Untitled 1" - "Untitled 8" in there show info. are correctly listed on the 'known issues' page, I cannot see anything related to the ingame queue at gates.
Maybe it is just me, but for some strange reason I find that this 'unintended feature' (and the confirmation of its swift removal) should be at least mentioned.

When is this going to be taken off tq so that I can carry on doing my stuff?

Oh and while you are at it, why in the name of god don't you please fix the forums so that it doesn't take 5 attempts to make a post?

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Kaemper
Gallente Itchy logistics
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Posted - 2006.08.27 16:25:00 -
[640]
Since the patch ive been having severe disconnect problems. I did a PingPlotter for a while on the Tranquility server ip (87.237.38.200) to see if i had any significant packetloss.
All nodes seemed fine except this one: ge-6-14.car2.Stockholm1.Level3.net. I got 10% or more packetloss to this one.
My isp is telia btw. Not sure if this is an issue that my isp should adress or CCP. In any case EVE is pretty much a no go for me atm since i get dissed so often any activity in eve equals suicide (well maybe except empire mining..).
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Maj Woodcock
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.27 17:04:00 -
[641]
 Is this an undocumented feature? When I click on "insurance" to buy it for a new ship I got 2 e-mails. One saying I buy insurance and one telling me a ship insurance has expirder, BUT it named the ship that is no longer insurance.
Didn't see it anywhere in the patch notes but now I know what ship needs new insurance.
Anything esle out there that was not in the notes? besides the gate thing.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands,hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H. L. Mencken
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Iorya Dragon
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.27 19:34:00 -
[642]
Since the last patch, sometimes after a few minutes, my frames drop to 10 ffs, usualy having 30-40. After restart is all okie , for a while. Anybody having this problem too?
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TroubleX2
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Posted - 2006.08.27 20:55:00 -
[643]
after spending three, four days to finally get back on I noticed one bug that hasn't been brought up( well not that I saw) and thats when docked and opening cans in my hauler the window to the right side (guest, corp, ect) will flash white in a ring... no one else in my corp had noticed it but it did it all night while I was mining/hauling.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.27 21:22:00 -
[644]
Originally by: Azar Fereshteh I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
try altavista instead
Altavista translation
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.27 21:25:00 -
[645]
seems military connections - labour connections (all the LP influencing special skillbooks) arent having their bonsues stacked (this is done by having level 3 in most and level 5 in High tech connections) taking a mission with the same agent and then comparing to a corp mate using the same agent without any LP influencing skills trained at all guess what the LP we get is exactly the same (as a baseline this is a level 2 agent in Hek)
Seems like a new bug wasnt like that before
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2006.08.27 22:08:00 -
[646]
Is it just me or did I read somewhere that the patch would order station offices by the Abc? Anyhow it dosent *cries*
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Ysolde Xen
Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.08.27 23:00:00 -
[647]
Since the patch eacht ime I log on I find I've been re-subbed to the mailing lists I've unsubbed from. I have to re-unsub from all iof them every time I log in and it's getting very tiresome.
I've already bugreported keyboard autopilot toggle not working in stations.
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2006.08.28 00:25:00 -
[648]
Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Azar Fereshteh I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
try altavista instead
Altavista translation
"The training of the Skills Long rank Targeting on level 1 was locked."
ok 
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Nerfherder2000
Gallente Nanotechnologists Are Nurturing Outer Space Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:10:00 -
[649]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Azar Fereshteh I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
try altavista instead
Altavista translation
"The training of the Skills Long rank Targeting on level 1 was locked."
ok 
Abgeschlossen = locked/closed/finished, and range is German for rank, so yeah. 
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HighlanderUK
Gallente Interstellar Business Machines Corp. 9th Fleet
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:30:00 -
[650]
Originally by: Azar Fereshteh I presume this is German
2006.08.26 17:44 Das Training des Skills Long Range Targeting auf Level 1 wurde abgeschlossen.
Checked my settings and they are definately set to English. German skill completion evemails I can live with - just hope the agents don't start offering me missions in German - I'm not sure Google language tools will be up to it 
I go this yesterday for the first time......german skill completed eve mail. Also go the invisible Accelerator Gate in several missions yesterday afternoon. Only major isssue I've had is getting the damn Manufacturing windows to remeber their size/layout, everytime i choose to manufacture from a BPO, i need to resize windows to be able to select empty slots -- getting very tedious with 3 figure trade slots and 9 factory/labs to work with.
And while your creating a new update, for the love of all things HOLY, will you set the default manufacture station to be the one the BPO is in, since 99.999999999% of the time that's the one we want. I prefer keeping my BPO build method down to less than eight or nine mouse clicks to build 1 batch....it kind of builds up when you have a lot to do, and I'd rather not get Carpel Tunnel Syndrome thanks!!
************************************************** Sorry, my signature was pod-killed..."We are Dyslexia of Borg. All your ass will be laminated" |
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Out Of Exile
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Posted - 2006.08.28 10:49:00 -
[651]
Originally by: KPoff
Originally by: Lardarz B'stard I can't be bothered to read all the threads, so I assume this has prolly already been posted, but...
I am getting a bug when entering buy orders or buying things off the market where in the buy item screen all the text is bunched to the left and you can't see the unit cost price or total cost price. Sell orders interface screen is working fine.
I am having this problem when i try to sell items, the bunching up to the left and not being able to see prices...but i have 2 chars and its only happening with 1 of them so...<shrugs>
Found a way to fix this. Resize your windows and screen a few times and drag them about and it eventually changes so you can see it and the text stops bunching up.
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.08.28 11:14:00 -
[652]
Originally by: hendo001 here is a link to a thread the devs really need to read Linkage
Signed in triplicate. This is ruining pvp at the moment, and is a major issue. Seeing as this "feature" wasn't even supposed to be activated, why is it still there? Ships are being lost to this all the time, and some people are starting to systematically abuse it.
I got stuck in a queue as #3 when jumping into a lowsec system with 6 other players in it. A corpmate lost a Dom yesterday to this. This list goes on, and people are starting to get seriously ****ed off.
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Ataraxa
Gallente Trolltech Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:22:00 -
[653]
Not sure whether this was reported yet, but I have experienced two issues:
1) When jettison stuff in a jetcan and renaming the can (a common practice among miners), the new name does not display in the overview, eg is not updated. You have to close and open the overview (double TAB) or load another set of preferences
2) On the queue list for research and manifacturing slot, the sort order of the finishing time is totally messed up. It goes like this:
10days 2h 11days 8h 8days 11h (...) 8days 12h 8days 4h 8days 8h 9days 11h
As you notice 10<11<2<3<...<8<9 on all the numbers regardless whether you chose ascending or descending order.
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:35:00 -
[654]
The overview can bug is not new. It has always done this.
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wizzard66
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.28 12:40:00 -
[655]
Minor issue (not sure if its reported)
When hovering with mouse over speed indicator you see this
Speed xxx/s.You cannot change your speed during warp.
Where xxx=ofc your current speed.
Imho the warning only came pre patch when you clicked the speed indicator itself.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.28 13:43:00 -
[656]
The intensity of NPC tactical indicators now seems to calculate based on the distance from the camera rather than from your ship.
In other words, if you zoom way out the plus signs get dimmer and when you zoom in they darken. Not really a major issue but it's rather annoying compared to the more useful ship distance calculation before Dragon.
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.28 16:16:00 -
[657]
Neocom (side bar) --- If you have the option set to hide it, when you move the mouse to the left to reveal it and you have other windows open, sometimes it appears over the other windows (OK), sometimes it pushes the other windows to the side (OK), but sometimes it appears behind the open windows and you can't click it (BAD).
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Jallen
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.28 16:41:00 -
[658]
In the known issues it shows that the warp sound is missing. This may have been an isolated incident but when I cranked up my home stereo (1000w Pioneer surround sound sytem) I can barely hear it (of course the neighbors complain when I have the stereo that loud).
Personally, I'm glad it's gone. 
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Retarded Lemming
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:21:00 -
[659]
Originally by: Heikki Edited by: Heikki on 28/08/2006 21:56:31 Confirm the problems;
Symptoms: - Occasional disconnect, about 5 in 2 hours period - A lot of (30++ instances) of long (10s-120s) module/command activation lags, some synchronization problems - Game still 'playable', but at drastically reduced level (have to avoid risky situations)
Envinronment: - Before Dragon, did use exatcly same configuration/setup/situation without problems
(Quote truncated to closer match my specs, pulled from the known issues forum)
I'm also experiencing disconnects, there are 2 other Eve users on my connection experiencing disconnects. This has only been trouble since the recent patch.
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Ataraxa
Gallente Trolltech Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.08.29 06:09:00 -
[660]
Originally by: Bazan Kor The overview can bug is not new. It has always done this.
As a miner I can tell you it was not the case before the dragon patch. Had no problems renaming my cans. It might be an old bug surfacing again, but then it got re-introduced in Dragon Patch.
On a completely unrelated note, I submitted the bug report about the sort order thingie ... lets see whether it comes up on the Known Issues someday
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valhalla MCMLXXIV
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.08.29 08:43:00 -
[661]
Originally by: Ataraxa
Originally by: Bazan Kor The overview can bug is not new. It has always done this.
As a miner I can tell you it was not the case before the dragon patch. Had no problems renaming my cans. It might be an old bug surfacing again, but then it got re-introduced in Dragon Patch.
On a completely unrelated note, I submitted the bug report about the sort order thingie ... lets see whether it comes up on the Known Issues someday
Correct. It existed a while ago, but was fixed in a recent patch (not too sure which one). A shame to see fixed bugs re-occuring...
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Peter McGregor
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Posted - 2006.08.29 10:21:00 -
[662]
Originally by: Jallen
Personally, I'm glad it's gone. 
I second that! The warping sound was always one of the most annoying parts of EVE. It would be much better to have an option to switch it off in the menu. After all, in space no-one can hear your scream ;)
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Bero Tepesh
Caldari GLOBE Mining and Production
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Posted - 2006.08.29 16:46:00 -
[663]
Bugs, crashes, problems of all sort, sometimes I feel more like a beta-tester than a (paying) player.
Please, try to considerate that customers patience could reach it's limits sooner or later...
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Alisha Retaris
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.29 19:42:00 -
[664]
Ok This Que to Jump BS has gone far enough Get rid of it.
In a system with no one in it jumping to a system with no one in it I was delayed by this que for over 15 min. Not a big problem there but could have been considering I live in 0.0 space. Next system again no one in it warp to gate clikc on jump and again the damm que message only this time there are 3 1.25 mil ai rats and 3 frig rats BIG Porblem considering i'm moving stuff in an indy. I waited for 1-2 min b4 warping to a SS and logging out but was dammaged b4 i could by the ai rats all because of your stupid que system.
Pre Patch I would have cloaked then lagged b4 getting to the next system which while annoying keeps you alive. with this new system even ai rats are a threat let alone our enemies. In Short this Que system you have so brilliantly come up with ( NOT) is going to cause more petitions and headaches than the old.
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sukker
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Posted - 2006.09.02 07:54:00 -
[665]
Originally by: FrontC Good job getting the servers up.
Problem on buying from market, when you right click and "Buy This" the UI that comes up is all shifted to the left - leaving out key details (like total purchase price).
same problem
Windows XP prof. SP2 (incl. latest patches) HIS X800 XL (ATI)
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B3ck3tt
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Posted - 2006.09.02 16:18:00 -
[666]
was there any fix for acquiring bulk data screen at login? coz i have left it running for hours and it doesnt just 'log me in' like some people have said, have tried to fresh install it too
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Slingarian
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Posted - 2006.09.05 01:03:00 -
[667]
Good job getting the Server back up so quickly...
FPS is improved and I like the graphical tweaks.
I've read in previous posts that several folks are having the "no warp sound" issue. Post patch I also have no warp sounds, but it dosent stop there, I have no weapon sounds, or "jumping" sounds. Basicly the only sounds I do have are music and the animated computer voice.
considering downloading the client and reinstalling..
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violator2k5
Caldari care bears have awesome vessals
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Posted - 2006.09.05 04:28:00 -
[668]
bugs that definatly need fixing
overview
warping off and still having ships on your overview
limitation of seeing ships at a greater distance then 100km. i dunno what you done but now since the last server update 80% of the time i cant see ships past 100km like i use to. i definatly hope that issue is fixed in the patch thats being deployed tomorrow
Need A Merc? ......... Hire Chav today
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CaptainEO
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Posted - 2006.09.07 00:38:00 -
[669]
Just wanted to add a complaint that the font size is too small. I struggle to read text on the screen. Please offer an option to make the font (much) larger.
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Gus Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.07 01:10:00 -
[670]
After dealing with GM's all day I have given up on playing the game in what I can only describe as "hopelessness."
I've done everything from renaming my cache folder to getting moved all over Eve by a GM to repackage my ships and modules. The simple fact is that I (and seemingly onlyI) have some sort of character corruption on a particular cluster.
This means that in (seemingly) random systems (including the one containing my best, preferred contact) I can't activate or deactivate modules, and I also cannot lock NPC's at all.
If you're interested, here is a link to transcripts of my numerous messages to and from the GM's.
Quote: Bugs, crashes, problems of all sort, sometimes I feel more like a beta-tester than a (paying) player.
QFT.
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XenoPagan
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Posted - 2006.09.11 15:17:00 -
[671]
Originally by: CaptainEO Just wanted to add a complaint that the font size is too small. I struggle to read text on the screen. Please offer an option to make the font (much) larger.
Same problem here. Well I can play but my brother can't - font is unreadable on his laptop, picture is fine. That extended font in settings doesn't do anything in particular :)
Create a font for visually challenged and/or hi res LCD monitor owners. Make it selectable.
puhleeeeeeze!
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