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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
4666
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:57:04 -
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Hello again o/
Finally, finally, Recons. I know you guys have been asking for a long time now so even though timing was pretty tight with vacations coming up I want to get this class in for January.
We had a few big goals with Recons:
Give Combat Recons something to make them stand out as a unique and interesting set of ships Close the gap somewhat between Recons and T3 Cruisers, though this will also be a goal during the T3 Cruiser rebalance Align Recons around ship developer trends established in other classes (Roden Lachesis should not use missiles for example) Address any other general balance issues or pain points (hello Pilgrim) Those goals lead us to the following major changes:
Combat Recons will now be permanently undetectable by directional scanners All eight Recons will have their resist profiles brought up to Heavy Assault Cruiser level All eight Recons will have the capacitor cost of warping reduced by roughly half Where appropriate, bonuses will be adjusted to match ship developer trends All eight Recons are having their capacitor pool and capacitor regeneration buffed (roughly 20% increase in cap regen) The average maximum velocity across the class is going up by around 20m/s We hope in the end we have a more attractive class of ship overall and some exciting new ways to use Combat Recons. That said, there are still some issues we hoped to address before rebalancing this class, such as ECM, which simply weren't happening fast enough. We still feel good about making improvements to this class now and look forward to hearing what you guys have to say about it.
Here's the gritty stuff:
PILGRIM We decided that the Pilgrim really needed Nos/Neut range, rather than strength, to give it the engagement flexibility that other Recons enjoy.
Role Bonus: 80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption 50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration GÇó Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator GÇó Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
Amarr Cruiser Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to strength of tracking disruptors 10% bonus to drone damage and hp
Recon Ships Bonuses: 40% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer range (was 20% nos/neut strength) 20% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
Slot layout: 4H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets, 0 launchers Fittings: 1000 PWG(+50), 370 CPU(+20) Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 850(+62) / 1800 / 1050(+178) Capacitor (amount / capacitor per second) : 1450(+190) / 4.39/s (+.75) Mobility (max velocity / agility / align time): 198(+34) / .61(-.1) / 9.61s(-1.57s) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 150 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 104km / 237 / 8(+1) Sensor strength: 26(+2) Radar Signature radius: 155(-1)
CURSE
Role Bonus: Cannot be detected by directional scanners
Amarr Cruiser Bonuses: 7.5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damagere
Recon Ships Bonuses: 40% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer range 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount
Slot layout: 5H, 6M, 5L; 2 turrets, 4 launchers Fittings: 900 PWG, 380 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1650(-187) / 1650 / 1075(+203) Capacitor (amount / capacitor per second) : 1470(+220) / 4.46/s (+.83) Mobility (max velocity / agility / align time): 205(+30) / .61(-.04) / 9.99s(-.66s) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 150 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 130km / 281 / 10 Sensor strength: 28 Radar Signature radius: 150
FALCON
Role Bonus: 80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption 50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration GÇó Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator GÇó Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
Caldari Cruiser Bonuses: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage 10% reduction in ECM Target Jammer activation cost
Recon Ships Bonuses: 30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength 20% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
Slot layout: 4H, 7M, 3L; 3 turrets, 1 launchers Fittings: 700 PWG, 380 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1750(+147) / 940(-16) / 945(+204) Capacitor (amount / capacitor per second) : 1190(+96.25) / 3.7/s (+.52) Mobility (max velocity / agility / align time): 192(+23) / .64(+.09) / 10.85s(+1.67s) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 10 / 10 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 120km / 220 / 8(+1) Sensor strength: 28 Gravimetric Signature radius: 180
ROOK
Role Bonus: Cannot be detected by directional scanners
Caldari Cruiser Bonuses: 5% bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile Launcher rate of fire 10% reduction in ECM Target Jammer activation cost
Recon Ships Bonuses: 30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength 10% bonus to Heavy Missile and Heavy Assault Missile max velocity
Slot layout: 5H, 7M, 3L; 2 turrets, 5 launchers Fittings: 600 PWG, 600 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2050(+262) / 965(+9) / 960(+359) Capacitor (amount / capacitor per second) : 1250(+187) / 3.93/s(+.83) Mobility (max velocity / agility / align time): 194(+24) / .61 / 10.76s(-.04s) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 150km / 259 / 10 Sensor strength: 32 Gravimetric Signature radius: 175(+2)
ARAZU
Role Bonus: 80% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator liquid ozone consumption 50% reduction in Cynosural Field Generator duration GÇó Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Device and Covert Cynosural Field Generator GÇó Cloak reactivation delay reduced to 5 seconds
Gallente Cruiser Bonuses: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage 7.5% bonus to Remote Sensor Dampener effectiveness
Recon Ships Bonuses: 20% bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor optimal range 20% reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
Slot layout: 4H, 6M, 64L; 3 turrets, 1 launchers Fittings: 750 PWG, 420 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 1180(+55) / 1430(+136) / 1080(+208) Capacitor (amount / capac...
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CCP Rise
C C P C C P Alliance
4666
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:57:43 -
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Hopefully no typos or weirdnesses but its always possible so just let me know if something looks funny.
@ccp_rise
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Scheulagh Santorine
The Math Department
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:00:05 -
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CCP Rise wrote: Role Bonus: Cannot be detected by directional scanners
============================== I used to shoot things. Now I do math.
S. Santorine
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HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
848
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:00:06 -
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all these ship balances and HACs still haven't been renamed to HVACs
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Faren Shalni
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:00:11 -
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\o/
So Much Space
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Amantus
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
349
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:00:29 -
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nice |
SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
243
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:00:37 -
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Looking good. Liking the invisible to d-scan thing. |
Xtrah
No Holes Barred
203
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:01:26 -
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"Combat Recons will now be permanently undetectable by directional scanners"
WHAT
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Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
394
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:01:39 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Hopefully no typos or weirdnesses but its always possible so just let me know if something looks funny.
The Lach needs a 4th low slot! Move one of those meds so we can at least hope to armor fit it. |
Boltorano
Devious Chemicals
102
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:03:09 -
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You've basically made scout alts mandatory for "solo" site runners.
Thanks so much. |
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
1072
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:04:21 -
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Get ready to feel the wrath of my Curse (again)!
I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I--THE CAPACITOR IS EMPTY
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Twitter: @asayanami
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Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
394
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:05:13 -
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How about doing a 5/5/5 slot layout for the Lach? That would give a ton of options for fitting the different tanks. |
Canenald
Rubella Solaris Test Alliance Please Ignore
19
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:06:10 -
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Please also make Huginn a missile boat. It's a Bellicose hull after all. That or change the hull to Stabber or Rupture. |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
396
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:06:34 -
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And why does the rest of the combat recons get 15 slots while the curse gets 16? Aren't drone boats suppose to have one less slot? |
Connall Tara
Conquering Darkness
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:08:38 -
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whoops
Quote: Slot layout: 4H, 6M, 64L; 3 turrets, 1 launchers
I think I might have stacking penalty problems before I use all those arazu lows :D
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Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
48
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:08:48 -
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10 curse please. thank you very much! |
Longdrinks
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
147
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:10:22 -
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pretty dumb changes with buffs to speed and cap across the board when this was one of the limiting factors holding very strong ships back. Also dscan changes and neutrange on pilgrims is a big middle finger to solo players.
10/10 changes, didnt expect anything else |
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:10:23 -
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Curse has a bonus to drone damagere
That d-scan invisibility seems rather powerful in some situations.
This post was rated "C" for capsuleer.
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Vulfen
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:11:37 -
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[quote=CCP Rise] 10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damagere
Just the 1 spelling mistake rise on the curse |
Bronwolff LeCroix
Motiveless Malignity Unknown Destination
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:11:52 -
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Missing the sig radius on the Huginn |
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Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
629
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:13:17 -
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10/10 I love you. |
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
396
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:14:46 -
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The Huginn also only has 14 slots. So this is what we have so far:
Curse: 16 Rook: 15 Lac: 15 Huginn: 14
Seems you missed doing a slot adjusting this pass. |
Diivil
Magellanic Itg Goonswarm Federation
306
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:14:55 -
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Combat recons should at least show up in dscan if you are on the same grid with them. Majority of Eve use dscan tools and it would be extremely frustrating to not be able to copy a certain ship type from dscan list when you can clearly see it in your own overview. |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
396
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:16:54 -
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RIP anything trying to close on a hyugen now.
Making battleships worth the warp
Tech 3 battleships.
Moar battleships
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Suzuma
Makiriemi Industries
5
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:19:03 -
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Was hoping the Arazu would be made a droneboat with at least 50mbit/100m3 dronebay and 4/7/4 slot layout
Lachesis needs damage/tracking or damage/optimal bonuses, cos optimal/tracking is great for what...swatting frigates?
Shouldn't one of the Amarr hulls should be lasers? Say damage/tracking or damage/cap use
for starters :) |
Mizhir
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
70297
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:19:26 -
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Some pretty cool changes. Is it intentionally that the curse gained an extra lowslot for free (I hope it is)?
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
1073
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:19:40 -
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Diivil wrote:Combat recons should at least show up in dscan if you are on the same grid with them. Majority of Eve use dscan tools and it would be extremely frustrating to not be able to copy a certain ship type from dscan list when you can clearly see it in your own overview. Good point.
I'm a leaf on the wind, watch how I--THE CAPACITOR IS EMPTY
Youtube: /asayanami
Twitter: @asayanami
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Tiberius StarGazer
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
446
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:19:55 -
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Quite literally smashing this one out of the park. The HAC tank will actually make em usable as the frontline support ships they always should have been! |
Psianh Auvyander
Noir. Suddenly Spaceships.
115
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:20:19 -
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I fear that the Dscan bit will be changed, but I truly hope not!
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Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
217
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Posted - 2014.12.18 15:20:29 -
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I like most of the changes, especially since it will make the ships a little more useful, but not showing up on dscan is a bit silly. That's what cloaks are for. |
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