Haven't you been paying attention? They get up to 260 mil ticks. What more do you need to know?

Haven't you been paying attention? They get up to 260 mil ticks. What more do you need to know?

The problem is that this is too great a source of too much ISK. It will cause long-term issues if it's not dealt with. Also, what dreams are there to achieve once you're at a level that you can AFK rat in a super? There's not much upward mobility to go once you're a super pilot. Now, if they were nerfing the income for VNIs or other subcaps, that would certainly crush the dreams of those who are trying to achieve. But if you're in a super, you've already succeeded. At that point, it's not even work. The problem becomes, your money is making money for you, just like in real life. Rich get richer, etc etc. Not a good economical decision in game or in real life.

260m tick would mean that some1 is killing 1 haven in 2-2half minutes. Is it even possible ?

260m tick would mean that some1 is killing 1 haven in 2-2half minutes. Is it even possible ?

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Nope the statics will be much more evenly for all the reasons I listed. The average capital-ratter rats more per month . I expect FAR more than 6,2% of all nullsec-ano-ticks be generated by caps. FAR MORE.

Nope the statics will be much more evenly for all the reasons I listed. The average capital-ratter rats more per month . I expect FAR more than 6,2% of all nullsec-ano-ticks be generated by caps. FAR MORE.

Will be interesting how well/if they can detect multiboxing. Running several ishtars is easy as is running them in the background while working. Something that is not the case with capital ratting. I know that I stopped carrier ratting due to losing fighters if I look away for a sec, while worst that happens in an ishtar is that I get a bit lower tick.

Where large amounts of isks are spent in eve:
- For new ships
- For new structures

When players need new structures and ships:
- When they move to another place and there is no point to move them
- When ships and structures are destroyed.

So to increase demand we need more ships and structures to be destroyed. That means we need some huge wars and currently there are no reasons for them, because there is not so much interest in conquering enemy territory. So probably instead of nerfing income sources it was better to add more reasons to fight with each other?

There always will be people who earn more than others just because they put more effort in it. So why their income should be reduced?

For example there may be some special events, some rats that collect wrecks from player battlefields and spawn only if some amount of capital ships were destroyed by opposite fractions? Meaning that several alliances should have neutral or negative standings, make a huge fight and then some third npc force come there to collect their wrecks and defend themselves. Think about some special reward and probably people will fight again?

Because now pvp mostly looks like - fleet of 50 cruisers comes into enemy territory, then:
a) they kill some carrybears
b) they are killed by 100-150 enemy fleets on the same trash cans
c) they are dropped by several capitals and also killed
d) if they are lucky - they go home with nothing.
e) hardly ever there is some interesting fight.

Just make eve pvp great again and people will spend isks and not just collect them.

oh its still possible to multibox 2-3 carriers/supers if you have the right rig.

260m tick would mean that some1 is killing 1 haven in 2-2half minutes. Is it even possible ?

260m tick would mean that some1 is killing 1 haven in 2-2half minutes. Is it even possible ?

260m tick would mean that some1 is killing 1 haven in 2-2half minutes. Is it even possible ?

Here you go. Granted its incursions but the same tactic will work for anoms

Here you go. Granted its incursions but the same tactic will work for anoms

Only way i see this being possible would be to have 3 consecutive sites with a dread spawn. 60m on that * 3 makes 180m + about 80m from the regular bounties, about 25 - 30M per Anom. So, you know, an utter outlier, a 1 in a million happening.

NPC Fighter Aggression: No Change (was +15%)

Reverting that is straight up mentally ********, the damage reduction alone won't do ****, you're going to add like 60 seconds to site times and nothing will change

Capitals in incursions? Since when? Have you actually done carrier ratting since the changes to fighter mechanics? LInking some random guy multiboxing subcaps is not evidence of carrier/super multiboxing.

1) That guy is using stratioses and not carriers
2) Microing 3 squads of fighters is the same work as microing a 5-flight of drones.
3) In addition to that the fighters also may need mwd + orbiting
4) The Carriers do MUCH more dmg than stratioses. You will need to lock and attack multiple times as much.

Microing 1 Carrier is already easily as much work as microing 3+ stratioses. Show me someone microing 6 stratioses while generating a 20mil+ tick without using assist/guard and I'll start to beleave you.

True Sansha Dreads (the seldom faction kind) give 120mil bounties.

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1) That guy is using stratioses and not carriers

2) Microing 3 squads of fighters is the same work as microing a 5-flight of drones.

3) In addition to that the fighters also may need mwd + orbiting

4) The Carriers do MUCH more dmg than stratioses. You will need to lock and attack multiple times as much.

You can very easily operate 2-3 supers/carriers using this system.

Doesn't matter, its the tool he is using we are looking at not the ships.



A handful of clicks, you can easily operate 2-3 carriers using this system.



And? The guys running incursions are having to operate a dosen ships including logi. I'm sure you can handle a handful of fighter squadrons.



Does a carrier out damage a dosen incursion ships? I doubt it.

My bad then. Since i reside in Delve, i've only ever encountered the Bloodraider Dreads which are at 60m bounty. Thanks.

Capitals in incursions? Since when? Have you actually done carrier ratting since the changes to fighter mechanics? LInking some random guy multiboxing subcaps is not evidence of carrier/super multiboxing.

You have the same in your region. They are just very rare and called "Dark Blood Dreadnought":
https://zkillboard.com/ship/41397/