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The Djego
Minmatar
FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:35:00 -
[1141]
 Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Originally by: The Djego
As a little advice I would not give the JoJo Troll any more food. Jenny(I donŠt give a danm about the person behind) is trolling this Thread for the Sake of Trolling only. I donŠt think that the Player behind this Char is this kind of a stupid, but has a very childish beavior. Simply ignore him there is no contructive end in this argumentation anyway.
Trying to get forum mods and admins and/or 'spy's to track me down is not something that would make your well respected german sub-community of eve proud. Oh wait, I just googled "eve D2-Gate"
yeah I miss the block Feature here you are right,
also the Mods that kick you very fast for this kind of posting
And yeah rewind the tape of the IP Spy of the german Forum let you look quite stupid -> 10/10 Troll Points gratz
Dude, give it a break. Go ahead and set loose the hounds whenever you finish using your friends account for Amarr Battleships.
if you disagree with what I have to say, then attack my argument insted of this campaign of internet lolz.
Why should I?
You are not interested in this thread besides your fun trolling it. One simple question is trolling the Forums more fun than playing the game to you?
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SkyCrane
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:41:00 -
[1142]
Originally by: The Djego
Would be not suprized it you use SkyCran to dualtroll..
Oh, wow.. And you talk about trolling? You just involved a total non-trolling stranger into your own trollingallogations... Harsh
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The Djego
Minmatar
FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:55:00 -
[1143]
Originally by: SkyCrane
Originally by: The Djego
Would be not suprized it you use SkyCran to dualtroll..
Oh, wow.. And you talk about trolling? You just involved a total non-trolling stranger into your own trollingallogations... Harsh
Well no Corp or Aliance sign. And every time you give out strange comments that the Ship and Module Fitting Sticky could awnser to. By the way of starting the Thread over and over again well I got this opinion. If Im wrong well sorry but I canŠt think of a normal player that complains on the one hand that he has low experience on PVP and how to do Missions with Lasers and on the other Hand complains about Missles(Defender Chance) and Rail/Laser Tracking comparence.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 00:58:00 -
[1144]
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 00:58:24
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: SkyCrane
Originally by: The Djego
Would be not suprized it you use SkyCran to dualtroll..
Oh, wow.. And you talk about trolling? You just involved a total non-trolling stranger into your own trollingallogations... Harsh
Well no Corp or Aliance sign. And every time you give out strange comments that the Ship and Module Fitting Sticky could awnser to. By the way of starting the Thread over and over again well I got this opinion. If Im wrong well sorry but I canŠt think of a normal player that complains on the one hand that he has low experience on PVP and how to do Missions with Lasers and on the other Hand complains about Missles(Defender Chance) and Rail/Laser Tracking comparence.
Dude.
Angels Extravaganza.
70%+ EM resist..... Amarr is not efficent for that, Ravens can solo this in 30-40mins easaly. Apoc/Abaddon takes how many hours?
After all - it is you proclaiming the benifit sof Amarr vs Angels.
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SkyCrane
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:14:00 -
[1145]
Well, this is getting out of hand topicwise, but The DJego I don't know what I've done you wrong, but I'm gonna end it here and now by adressing this last post to you DJego
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Well no Corp or Aliance sign.
Not showing which corp I'm from is not a sign of "dualtrolling".
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And every time you give out strange comments that the Ship and Module Fitting Sticky could awnser to.
Do I give out strange comments which the shipfitting sticky could have answers to? Well if it fits in here.. why not?
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By the way of starting the Thread over and over again well I got this opinion.
Am I starting the thread over and over again?
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If Im wrong well sorry but I canŠt think of a normal player that complains on the one hand that he has low experience on PVP and how to do Missions with Lasers and on the other Hand complains about Missles(Defender Chance) and Rail/Laser Tracking comparence.
I don't see how you work that one out, but hey.. I guess I'm not very smart. Where do I give you the idea that I'm complaining of my low PvP experience? I'm pointing it out as a fact so avoid ******** "L2P" and "NOOB" comments on my posts... And where am I complaining about missiles? (defender chance)? I merely pointed out 1 of the weaknesses missiles has in missions. And what's the problem with comparing lasers and rails trackingspeeds when it's being discussed in this thread?
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The Djego
Minmatar
FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:27:00 -
[1146]
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 00:58:24
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: SkyCrane
Originally by: The Djego
Would be not suprized it you use SkyCran to dualtroll..
Oh, wow.. And you talk about trolling? You just involved a total non-trolling stranger into your own trollingallogations... Harsh
Well no Corp or Aliance sign. And every time you give out strange comments that the Ship and Module Fitting Sticky could awnser to. By the way of starting the Thread over and over again well I got this opinion. If Im wrong well sorry but I canŠt think of a normal player that complains on the one hand that he has low experience on PVP and how to do Missions with Lasers and on the other Hand complains about Missles(Defender Chance) and Rail/Laser Tracking comparence.
Dude.
Angels Extravaganza.
70%+ EM resist..... Amarr is not efficent for that, Ravens can solo this in 30-40mins easaly. Apoc/Abaddon takes how many hours?
After all - it is you proclaiming the benifit sof Amarr vs Angels.
Well if you fly Amarr BS you would know. Simple as it is stop trolling.
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The Djego
Minmatar
FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:51:00 -
[1147]
Originally by: SkyCrane
Well, this is getting out of hand topicwise, but The DJego I don't know what I've done you wrong, but I'm gonna end it here and now by adressing this last post to you DJego
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Well no Corp or Aliance sign.
Not showing which corp I'm from is not a sign of "dualtrolling".
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And every time you give out strange comments that the Ship and Module Fitting Sticky could awnser to.
Do I give out strange comments which the shipfitting sticky could have answers to? Well if it fits in here.. why not?
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By the way of starting the Thread over and over again well I got this opinion.
Am I starting the thread over and over again?
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If Im wrong well sorry but I canŠt think of a normal player that complains on the one hand that he has low experience on PVP and how to do Missions with Lasers and on the other Hand complains about Missles(Defender Chance) and Rail/Laser Tracking comparence.
I don't see how you work that one out, but hey.. I guess I'm not very smart. Where do I give you the idea that I'm complaining of my low PvP experience? I'm pointing it out as a fact so avoid ******** "L2P" and "NOOB" comments on my posts... And where am I complaining about missiles? (defender chance)? I merely pointed out 1 of the weaknesses missiles has in missions. And what's the problem with comparing lasers and rails trackingspeeds when it's being discussed in this thread?
1. you stated your low PVP experinace 1 side ago...
2. Well you complained about the Boni on the Domi and the Rohk, also mentioned the Missle Defender Chance(overrated by far to many) youst one side ago
3. What did you wanŠt to state with the Tracking? A Laser has more Range and less Tracking on a Puls basis. Quite simple to see and more than obivious if you can fly multiply races. Is this a bad thing? A good Thing? Well your post only mentioned the Tracking nothing more...
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Uchuu
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:01:00 -
[1148]
I've completely skipped all the posts since page 30 or so cause I assume this thread is evolving like most amarr threads do. I only read the last couple of posts....
Eh... Angels Extravaganza isn't that bad. I do it in a abaddon with megapulse II, and use valks.
Who here wants to bet that the devs stopped reading after page 1?
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SkyCrane
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:25:00 -
[1149]
Edited by: SkyCrane on 30/12/2007 02:30:22
Originally by: The Djego
lol...?
So by pointing out my own flaws as a PvPer and pointing out disadvantages on other ships is whining? I'm amazed..
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Rikeka
Amarr
Eye of God
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:32:00 -
[1150]
The devs never read this thread, let alone the very informative Page 1. But, what`s funny is that they keep re-directing people that create new threads about Amarr ships to this thread...
Know what that means? This is the official "Amarr Dev Trashcan"  
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Meridius Dex
Amarr
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.30 05:33:00 -
[1151]
Edited by: Meridius Dex on 30/12/2007 05:34:23
I have to say one of the worst things I ever read about EVE was that the developers were avid participants in the game itself. It just deflated me when I heard it. Nothing could be a worse precursor for game imbalance than the 'brain trust' of any given MMO being prejudiced by their own narrow, personal viewpoints. Objectivity and a detached, macrocosmic worldview would always be far more desirable traits for a good developer.
How many devs are speed tankers? How many are Gallente? How many on staff fly Assault Frigates?
Clearly none fly Amarr - at least not without all maxed V-level skills.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.30 06:09:00 -
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OP is based on a fair number of impractical ship setups and doesn't take into account falloff and optimals of different racial weaponry. Minmatar tend to do the lowest damage and dedicate two bonuses to their weapons like Amarr ships, but of course at the advantage of being capless weaponry.
That out of the way, being a non-Amarr pilot I agree that the cap use of lasers is excessive and that changes should be laser-focused instead of ship-focused to prevent or dissuade Amarrian ships from fitting autocannons whilst using the massive cap excess to build a very powerful tank. A general reduction on laser capacitor use or a role bonus for ships intended to be used with them seems like an entry point towards fixing the problem; although the already existing laser reduction bonus on ships should remain as it is an indirect damage bonus (as it can stay in the fight longer so to speak), and short-lasting fights are an area in which Amarr currently excels at.
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 09:39:00 -
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This thred is bs like my past posting on the fourm.
Amarr dont need any love, they are far better than any of the other races.
A geddon can dish out the same amount of dps of a mega with better tank, and mutch better range. Ohheeyyeee Boost it more"=?#%)=%
man people just suck, trying to boost there own race all the time, amarr needs a nerf not a boost.
Gallente uses allmost the same amount of Cap as amarr.
and while gallente dont have good drone ships other than domi and Ish, thees ships suck cuse they cant fit a Rack of guns and a tank, like the other ships, so they are forced to use drones only, and a good tank.
while amarr can dish out huge amount of dps at 2-20km range++++
with 5 t2 drones as well.
Most people have even Res, on armor tanks, even tho em is at a high base, it dont mean people gona use a low slot to fit a em hardner.
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Khes
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Posted - 2007.12.30 09:50:00 -
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I think all races should have their own thread like this, full of people lobbying for their own race to get buffed  It kind of feels like it is an election going on. If someone post something about a race that should get buffed all others within that race automaticly post to show their support just in case a dev might come along and see it. The longer the thread the bigger chance on getting through to the devs. It is very sad that it has become to this.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 10:12:00 -
[1155]
Originally by: General StarScream
Gallente uses allmost the same amount of Cap as amarr.
Stick to COAD StarScream. You posts there is almost as bad as they are here.
You are aware that Amarr closerange weapons, such as Megapulse + Conflag has worse tracking that any NON-Amarr Turret DREADNAUGHT Closerange weapons?
You are also saying that Gallente use 8 heavy nos II worth of drain to fire railguns? (thats how much amarr use to fire tach)
Oh wait - isent there a "b0b" thread you are meant to nercro StarScream?
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 10:15:00 -
[1156]
Originally by: The Djego
3. What did you wanŠt to state with the Tracking? A Laser has more Range and less Tracking on a Puls basis. Quite simple to see and more than obivious if you can fly multiply races. Is this a bad thing? A good Thing? Well your post only mentioned the Tracking nothing more...
Let me spell it out for you.
Amarr are the only race where Close range, such as Megapulse + Conflag has worse tracking that any non-Amarr DREADNAUGHT Close range turret
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 10:42:00 -
[1157]
The tracking is ok, to hit targets, Amarr is great in Gangs for heavy hitting tackeld targets.
they are not uber solo race, but do well enuff vs other bs.
most fights in eve are gang related, so the amarr shine.
its just people whom use the base stats to say they suck.
while it seems they have no clue how to use the ship spec, and where to use it.
I for one dont want every singel ship in eve to be the same.
you cant have uber dps at all ranges+ tracking+ all dam types. + tank+ drones, and uber cap at the same time.
with the best res in game.
each ship in eve should be uniq for special roles, so they fit well in a gang.
min got no cap for wepons, same with cald missiles,
but they got less dps, not alot, but a bit less
but they have the strongest tanks. (in gangs)
it dont matter much tho, as long as you set your gang up right, all the races in eve shine.
but its eve, and i think the problem, is that people think that there race is the weekest, i feel the same about gallente, i wish i had gone amarr,caldri or min, for meny resons, but im sure i would feel it the other way around if i had skilled in any of the other races.
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 10:44:00 -
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And dont forget about the 1 sec reload to other type of crystals. and no ammo drain, this is a huge +.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 10:53:00 -
[1159]
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 10:55:17
Originally by: General StarScream
And dont forget about the 1 sec reload to other type of crystals. and no ammo drain, this is a huge +.
Ecept that crystals take longer to reload than conventional ammo if you have more than 4 turrets due to the year old crystal reload bug that they introduced when they made crystals decayable. Oh and crystals are most expensive ammo and they decay randomly. Amarr BS has to carry around 40mil of ammo, the most expensive ammo around.
You also said they have decent tracking?
Dude.... Close range Amarr weapons, such as Megapulse + Conflag, have worse tracking than even non-Amarr DREADNAUGHTS close range turrets
Amarr are the only race to have worse than dread tracking. Dont you see a problem with that?
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:03:00 -
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You know other t2 ammo reduce tracking as well.
you can use faction, like amarr navy multi, wich does about the same dam.
so thats no reson to boost amarr, they are very very very good as it is, and i think boosting amarr will just lead to more threds like this, from other pilots not flying amarr.
when boosting something you Need to think about the other people as well.
if it fair to you, that your race is to be better than the others?
cuse thats what the amarr cry seems to be about.
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SkyCrane
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:25:00 -
[1161]
Edited by: SkyCrane on 30/12/2007 11:25:13
Originally by: General StarScream
You know other t2 ammo reduce tracking as well.
you can use faction, like amarr navy multi, wich does about the same dam.
so thats no reson to boost amarr, they are very very very good as it is, and i think boosting amarr will just lead to more threds like this, from other pilots not flying amarr.
when boosting something you Need to think about the other people as well.
if it fair to you, that your race is to be better than the others?
cuse thats what the amarr cry seems to be about.
You don't get the point here, do you?
Everybody knows that T2 ammo has trackingpenalty, but no other guns gets almost useless when they fit T2 ammo.
And if you check around the forum, I'm sure you'll see Gallente whinethreads too. Like the "DON'T KILL THE MYRMIDON" whinage which is absolutely absurd...
Nobody in here is asking for Amarr to become the alltime best race in the whole wild world. All we want is a little boost to become competetive.
Nobody's looking for Quote:
you cant have uber dps at all ranges+ tracking+ all dam types. + tank+ drones, and uber cap at the same time.
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:38:00 -
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lol thats what everyone seems to want, cuse alot of the amarr pilots want diffrent things, if they got what they say is wrong with amarr fixed, amarr would be like a jovian race.
then fix T2 ammo on all races? maybe? or fix armor tanking to be inline with sheild tanking?
why boost amarr? theres alot of ships that armor tank.have cap problems, and so on.
and people dont seem to understand, that if something is changed it will be overpowerd.
hey i cant run a 80% all res tank with 3 large t2 armor reps. pls fix it, i cant tank 3 carriers at once. my race suck. this is how the amarr whine looks like
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J Valkor
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: J Valkor on 30/12/2007 11:44:29
I saw a curse disable the active tank of each primary as it was called it. It was beautiful to see BS explode while waiting for the gate to work after their recent act of aggression. Of course, the only reason they were running is cause all of them were perma jammed from our Kitsune/Rook. But they would have gotten away with maybe only a single loss if it wasn't for the curse nuking their cap. A beautiful combined arms scenario. Their ships melted into oblivion under a hail of missiles. My Nighthawk and several manticores + interdictors/destroyers.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:45:00 -
[1164]
Originally by: General StarScream
lol thats what everyone seems to want, cuse alot of the amarr pilots want diffrent things, if they got what they say is wrong with amarr fixed, amarr would be like a jovian race.
then fix T2 ammo on all races? maybe? or fix armor tanking to be inline with sheild tanking?
why boost amarr? theres alot of ships that armor tank.have cap problems, and so on.
and people dont seem to understand, that if something is changed it will be overpowerd.
hey i cant run a 80% all res tank with 3 large t2 armor reps. pls fix it, i cant tank 3 carriers at once. my race suck. this is how the amarr whine looks like
Sorry StarScream - you need to join your buddies and troll COAD section of eve forums more. You have a legendary reputation to throw useless info into serious discussions IN COAD section of forums, but unlike COAD - we dont want Amarr to be Winners - we want them to be competitive.
All we want is Amarr to be competitive with other races. Nobody wants OMGWTF because that will just result in a nerf. So please go away and troll elseware. Amarr have serious problems, and if the fact that non-Amarr Dreads have better close range tracking than Megapulse + Conflg, it highslights SERIOUS problems with the Amarr concept.
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SkyCrane
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream
then fix T2 ammo on all races? maybe? or fix armor tanking to be inline with sheild tanking?
Or just fix lasers so we don't need the prenerfed "10% less cap usagbe to lasers"....
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General StarScream
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:59:00 -
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you dont need to use t2 ammo, you can have it with you, and change it you feel you need it more than the faction crystals. wich will take what 1sec to change?
and you get normal tracking, oh and you could maybe fit a Tracking comp to fix it as well=?
there is mid slots on amarr ships right?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream
you dont need to use t2 ammo, you can have it with you, and change it you feel you need it more than the faction crystals. wich will take what 1sec to change?
The low relative fall-off of pulse lasers compared to blasters and auto-cannon means that you'll need to change your ammo type more frequently than with other types.
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and you get normal tracking, oh and you could maybe fit a Tracking comp to fix it as well=?
there is mid slots on amarr ships right?
Yes, we do have mid slots. The lowest number out of all of the races as it happens...
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Marn Prestoc
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 29/12/2007 23:37:07
Originally by: Marn Prestoc
Where have I compared t2 blaster ammo vs laser t1? Where have I compared tracking at all here? I haven't, your posting fictional rubbish again to avoid the actual points I made.
Go on, reply to each point I made earlier rather than constantly replying to stuff I never even said.
On http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=632743&page=38#1134
You said
Best range for close range fights (neutron blasters have to use null, a lower damage longer range ammo to match the range of pulse with MF).
Now call me an idiot, but you are clearly comparing t2 blaster ammo to t1 laser ammo. You were saying that Lasers have best range, and by implacation, better tracking than Null Blaster.
You know, that post I made where I said....
Lasers have.....
Worst Range for long range fights
Worst tracking for close range
Worst REAL damage output vs REAL World pvp ships
Use most cap
Worst fitting reqs
So out of 4 points, you turn one about range into tracking... congrats at the trolling.
Max damage faction ammo is better than max damage t2.
Long range T2 ammo is better than long range faction ammo.
Blasters have no other option if they want to hit at 15km+ than null. Lasers have another option than conflag in AN MF. And yes even with tracking penalty of null a Mega's blasters will track better than lasers with t1 ammo.
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 00:40:52
Originally by: SkyCrane
Edited by: SkyCrane on 30/12/2007 00:10:37
Hmmm, lets see here...
Mega Pulse : 0.03375 rad/sec
Electron Blaster : 0.05 rad/sec
Neutron Blaster : 0.0433 rad/sec
And to use a small gun for referance
Dual Light Pulse Laser: 0.27375 rad/sec
Not only that - lets take this 1 step further. These figures include No ship bonus and No skills bonus. Remember that the Hybrid user may get a 37.5% tracking bonus added on top if they are in a mega for example.
Megapulse II + Conflag = 0.0168
Electron Blaster II + Void = 0.025
Electron Blaster II + Null = 0.0375
Neutron Blaster II + Void = 0.0216
Neutron Blaster II + Null = 0.0324
Dreadnaught Ion Seige Blaster = 0.0216
Dreadnaught Arty = 0.0216
Dreadnaught Pulse = 0.0168
Now this mega, even excluding its ship tracking bonus, compleatly outclasses Megapulse for tracking.
Even a DREADNAUGHT Blaster/Arty has better tracking than Megapulse II + Conflag!
Heres where you again show your lack of knowledge, check out the stat on weapons called SIGNATURE. Nothing tracks as bad as XL weapons, so stop saying it.
You still haven't replied to the other points I made, you keep repeating this tracking point instead... keep up the trolling.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 13:31:00 -
[1169]
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 13:32:05
Originally by: Marn Prestoc
Heres where you again show your lack of knowledge, check out the stat on weapons called SIGNATURE. Nothing tracks as bad as XL weapons, so stop saying it.
Except you missed out the part where if you cannot track, you do 0 dps. Even XL weapons can do DPS due to the way sig works, but if you cannot track, then no amount of luck is going to make you do damage.
You say nothing tracks as bad as XL weapons. I have clearly shown that Megapulse + Conflag tracks even worse than non-Amarr Capital Sized close range turrets.
Surely your should be saying that megapulse + conflag needs to be reworked, perhaps balanced so it can track *Competitivly* with other races? Or do you want Amarr to be 3rd class?
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Marn Prestoc
Minmatar
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 13:46:00 -
[1170]
Edited by: Marn Prestoc on 30/12/2007 13:46:27
Originally by: Jonny JoJo
Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 30/12/2007 13:32:05
Originally by: Marn Prestoc
Heres where you again show your lack of knowledge, check out the stat on weapons called SIGNATURE. Nothing tracks as bad as XL weapons, so stop saying it.
Except you missed out the part where if you cannot track, you do 0 dps. Even XL weapons can do DPS due to the way sig works, but if you cannot track, then no amount of luck is going to make you do damage.
You say nothing tracks as bad as XL weapons. I have clearly shown that Megapulse + Conflag tracks even worse than non-Amarr Capital Sized close range turrets.
Surely your should be saying that megapulse + conflag needs to be reworked, perhaps balanced so it can track *Competitivly* with other races? Or do you want Amarr to be 3rd class?
You really do just fail with every post you make... you showed sweet FA, just cos you say its true doesn't make it so.
hit chance = (1/2 ^ (tracking factor + range factor))
tracking factor = ((transversal / (range * turret tracking)) * (turret sig res / sig rad)) ^ 2
range factor = ((If range >optimal range then range - optimal range else use 0) / falloff) ^ 2
Look at the tracking factor, Signature is a modifier of tracking! The combined number is then modified, hence tracking means nothing without the signature of your gun and the signature of the target, so your clearly wrong. If target isn't moving than tracking and signature don't matter, as soon as they are moving BOTH factors matter.
Keep up the looking clueless  i'm enjoying it. Why are your trolling btw? to get the topic locked or to try and stop anyone who has anything nice to say about amarr to go away by ignoring there points about the good sides of amarr/laser and arguing points they never made?
p.s. You going to reply to the 4 points I made or keep ignoring them?
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