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Somal Thunder Intergalactic Peace Organization	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:54:00 - [211] Edited by: Somal Thunder on 13/01/2009 23:54:59 How about adding a gameplay mode that doesn't render models at all? Such modes could be used for skill monitoring on older PC's. I generally run my alts on a seperate machine, an old machine from 2002 with an old nVidia card (It's got a PCI motherboard, so there is absolutely NO chance to run SM3 on it, and I have no idea if SM2 will work. A mode that doesn't render models would rely no a simple text-and-boxes interface, sure, it's about a day of development given all the resources EVE has, but it'll no doubt be the logical choice for players with old machines that don't want to upgrade, can't upgrade or experience very low FPS in fleet fights and don't mind the mind numbing experience of just right clicking names from a dull list and pressing the F-keys. An idea to be considered? Original View The Idea
adriaans Amarr Ankaa.	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:54:00 - [212] i have one high end computer and one rather old one, i usually run both clients on my high end, however if i need my eyes on both clients at once i will run my second account on the old computer, basically it will limit my use of my second account somewhat...:/ (or fix the **** alt-tabbing bug, its been there as long as i can remember) -sig- Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
D'ceet Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:58:00 - [213] Edited by: D''ceet on 14/01/2009 00:05:01 Windows Vista Home Basic Stock Intel Graphics Card 1 Gig of Ram Toshiba Laptop... and i really like eve and want to keep playing, but just cant afford a better pc...i really really REALLY hope this doesnt shaft me.... Link to DXDIAG Originally by: Popperr I resent the insinuation that we have intelligence, artificial or otherwise.
Clansworth Blackwater USA Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.13 23:59:00 - [214] Edited by: Clansworth on 14/01/2009 00:05:15 Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Andrue If we could just render the inside of a station with environment loading disabled it would be useful. That way people relying on slightly crappy laptops can still chat to friends from their hotel room and change skills. This option would be nice tbh. Originally by: Mara Rinn My Vista laptop is capable of running Premium at the moment. My iMac is supposed to be able to run Premium, it's just not available for Mac/Linux users at the moment. CCP should consider adding a "Send client technical details to CCP" feature into EVE. CCP should consider adding a "Chat" client that allows logging in, chatting, skill changing, buy/sell order manipulation, without the graphics overhead. In fact, CCP could split EVE entirely into two pieces - one handling the communications and market manipulation ("Chat client"), the other just being the ship simulator with the HUD, overview, target selection, weapons management ("Flight client"). This would cater to multi-screen users. Allowing the Chat client to log in from a separate computer to the Flight client would cater to multi-computer users too. Those of us who have underpowered laptops/netbooks would then get to do the stuff we currently use the portable computer for, with the advantage that battery life is extended due to not rendering useless graphics. Perhaps the Chat client could then be implemented using a published API for chat, market manipulation and route setting, allowing the Chribbas or the world to write their own UI specific to their window manager of choice. I believe in the FanFest vids, there was talk about adding eve-voice, eve-mail, chat, etc features to the COSMOS (out of client eve) implementation. I believe the word was about making it easier to 'play eve at work'. This sounds like most the features you are looking for. System Influence
JadeO Caldari W.A.S.P	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:00:00 - [215] Not supporting SM2 doesn't sounds like a very smart move, tbh. Not everyone is running top-notch computers, far from it. And, personally, I always felt that having EVE running on old machines was a major advantadge to get new players (and also keep the ones already playing)... But that's just me... ______________ Looking for a good signature, logo, website layout? EVEMail me!
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:02:00 - [216] What I miss in Eve is a single button, easy to find and big. Press it and it optimise for the best it can you client (no drones, etc). Unpress it and you have your previous settings. This, and exotic dancers. I love exotic dancers. Fetchez la vache !
Raymon James Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:02:00 - [217] I think you need to do three things 1) a tool (NOW!) so people know if they can run premium Lt 2a) either Start a Skill Queing system or 2b) a login tool that allowes you to update skill training.
Nordic Warrior Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:02:00 - [218] Edited by: Nordic Warrior on 14/01/2009 00:03:46 For me, this will mean that I can no longer start eve on my very old dell latitude d600 laptop. It already runs like crap on this, but enables me to do in-station stuff (industry things) away from my main pc. It runs quite choppy already on classic while in space, but not bad enough to not be able to manage pos's nearby. Maybe could be an idea to allow non-sm2 users but disable all instation gfx and undocking options that'll require more graphics? I'd love to keep my laptop for in-station use only, like industry, trade, research etc, eve is a game that can be played without leaving station at all and that doesnt really need nber graphics. Anyway, not a big loss and imho the plusside is that everything that saves money, is easier for devs = better for players in the long run.
Amelia Ewan Mindstar Brigade	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:07:00 - [219] Edited by: Amelia Ewan on 14/01/2009 00:07:46 Dropping Shader Model 1 = A great idea Dropping Shader Model 2 = A terrible most horrible idea. I may have a 8800GT that can support shader model 4.0 but im still looking out for those people with laptops that can only support 2.0. CCP, We pay for your wages, you lose enough players from this drop of the 2.0 you wont have a game to "easily" develop from. Dont do this totally stupid decision of killing 2.0 please.
Clansworth Blackwater USA Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:09:00 - [220] Originally by: Sir Cuddles Quote: One of EVE's unique features (along with being an awesome game on a single server) is that it can run on pretty much any computer built after 1998. Apparently Apple G4s don't count as computers. What, you trying to bait in the jokes? Joking aside, very few, if anyone, bought a G4 expecting it to be a gaming machine. Why would that change years down the road?

Syrian FC Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:11:00 - [221] Notebook on Intel 945GM does only support shaders v.2, so i hope those things about winter will be reconsidered...
ArmyOfMe 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:12:00 - [222] Originally by: Xol'tan If someones to lazy to upgrade its one thing but is some one is to poor to upgrade the cash there wasting on eve would be better spent on food and rent. since you can buy game time for isk your point is pretty useless tbh
Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:16:00 - [223] MacBook Pro Radeon X1600 (SM3.0) 2GB RAM Multiple EvE Accounts As long as I can keep running two accounts at the same time on this thing without it melting, you can count on my monthly fee. If I ever have to evaluate the cost of a new laptop against my continued EvE subscriptions, however... well, you'd better hope the Mac clients survive these obsoletions without long periods of functional uselessness.
Threv Echandari Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:17:00 - [224] Originally by: Digital Anarchist If you want to force us to use new hardware, at least give us an option to run wireframe graphics. No need to fork and maintain 2 codebases, just the option to strip more graphics stuff if we want to. THIS ^^ I have a an HP 1100 tablet that I use when I'm traveling and at the office to change skills and chat and maybe mine or haul with for my second account. The Classic client is the only thing that runs on the GeForce GO integrated video. I think you are going to have a lot of laptop users who are stuck with ****ty Intel Video that can barely run the classic client even on newer hardware. So yeah, while this change won't affect my main rig, many road warriors out there who can't upgrade are going to get screwed. So Yes wireframe mode please we dont need no fancy graphics... ---------------------------------------- Happiness is a Wet Pod
Meissa Anunthiel Redshift Industrial	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:20:00 - [225] How about the Power of 2? I have 2 accounts, running both of them in classic works fine, running both of them in premium is unworkable... Please take that in consideration when tuning the performance of the Premium Lite version. Thanks
Shaddn Arakh	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:20:00 - [226] I have two HP Pavilions, one of them has on-board Intel card, which SUPPOSEDLY is SM3.0-capable but won't run Fallout 3. So it may be not able to run New Eve Premium. The other Pavilion has mobile GF series 9, so it won't be a problem (FO3 runs smoothly, too). What you CCP need to seriously consider is an iPhone/WinMobile portable client to change skills, chat and play on the markets. Maybe some coporate roles configuration, too. Eve Mobile + Eve Premium (Lite or no Lite) FTW!
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:21:00 - [227] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII No but do you expect a reimbursement from every company that improves its users experience? Premium and Classic are two very seperate beasts, and together they allow for the best of both worlds. However, CCP want to drop Classic to make less work for themselves, it will do nothing to improve the experience of the people who already run Premium. Your arguement is flawed. This isn't about making Eve better for the players. Try reading the actual dev blog less codepaths=improved performance on the codepath they can focus on rather than having 2 dodgy half arsed clients.
Onnen Mentar Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:21:00 - [228] Originally by: Amelia Ewan Edited by: Amelia Ewan on 14/01/2009 00:07:46 Dropping Shader Model 1 = A great idea Dropping Shader Model 2 = A terrible most horrible idea. Just for the record, neither my main PC nor my laptop support shader model 3.0, and within a year I will not have upgraded either. Drop shader 2.0, drop me, simple :P For the record.. Desktop GPU is a radeon X850. It does not support 3.0 but it does run EVE classic pretty well indeed. Laptop GPU is the intel 950. In my dreams I see CCP drop classic because they have developed a real light-weight multiplatform OpenGL client. ;)
Impolite Andevil The Shadow Knights Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:22:00 - [229] I highly suggest a hardware survey ala Valve's surveys on Steam. Take a look at your current playerbase and see how many really are on old hardware. Taking a leap like this without real numbers seems very foolish.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:24:00 - [230] Originally by: Avon Originally by: James Lyrus http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-095-OK That's a GeForce 6 series card, right? AGP, SM3.0, and ú35. OK so that's a whole 2 months EVE sub, but I'm not sure the sky is falling here. How do I install that in my laptop? Got a guide or HOWTO? if you want to use a laptop for something it's not actually designed for i.e gaming then im afraid you have to pay quite a decent amount of money for an actual GAMING laptop as apposed to a normal laptop which are designed for business users.

Rebnok Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:25:00 - [231] Edited by: Rebnok on 14/01/2009 00:26:33 good ideal about iphones and the win moble 6.1 phones i wonder if evemon would work now?
Sir Nimmo Amarr Gun Metal Priests	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:27:00 - [232] Originally by: Rebnok good ideal about iphones and the win moble 6.1 phones Well, I think it has been on the cards for a while and a dev at fanfest had commented on how the mobile client code had been pulled out of a repository somewhere, so hopefully come winter, we might have a mobile client. I just hope it isn't an iPhone only release, I am becoming quite attached to my WinMo phone.
Mikalya Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:28:00 - [233] Quote: Step 2: In the Winter Expansion 2009 we are considering discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 and make the minimum specification ShaderModel 3(GeForce 6 class cards or ATi x1300 or compatible) Bye bye subscription with that expansion then. Not a threat, just my laptop isn't getting replaced for a long time and I can't put a desktop machine next to where my kids play when I'm gaming..... I already cancelled 2 accounts because my Lenovo T60 couldn't run more than one client anymore. Guess it means more time playing Aces High
Lesmon Children of Avalon	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:28:00 - [234] So this means no more skill switching on the notebook (SM1), no more industry jobs and no more market checking on the notebook, I have to power up the PC for everything? And we'ld still need to see if SM3 will work at all under Linux-Wine, because, quite frankly, the CCP-"Cedega light"-Linux-client so far is simply crap compared to standard Wine :/ Does this mean we will finally get a thin client for switching skills, science/industry and market? It's been asked for so long, and as far as I understand you already have something halfway in your drawers (the load testing sisi clients...)
Xailia Unsteady Corporation	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:28:00 - [235] Originally by: D'ceet Edited by: D''ceet on 14/01/2009 00:05:01 Toshiba Laptop... and i really like eve and want to keep playing, but just cant afford a better pc...i really really REALLY hope this doesnt shaft me.... GMA950 supports SM2. Heck GMA900 supports SM2. Right now you can run the Premium Client on any GMA9xx computer (or Mirage 3, S3 Chrome, x200) with premium content disabled. "The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
Kewagi Guiscard	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:29:00 - [236] Edited by: Kewagi Guiscard on 14/01/2009 00:29:05 Both my laptop (MacBook) and desktop (iMac) machines luckily support SM3 (They'd even support SM4, so I guess I'm future proof) - but I really hope the new Mac Premium client fixes the horrible stability issues found in it's classic predecessor. At the moment, all I can use the Mac client for is skill switching and low-intensity missions. For PvP, I have to boot over to Windows, not only because of FPS problems, but also because the thing has memory leaks and crashes.
D'ceet Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:33:00 - [237] Originally by: Xailia Originally by: D'ceet Edited by: D''ceet on 14/01/2009 00:05:01 Toshiba Laptop... and i really like eve and want to keep playing, but just cant afford a better pc...i really really REALLY hope this doesnt shaft me.... GMA950 supports SM2. Heck GMA900 supports SM2. Right now you can run the Premium Client on any GMA9xx computer (or Mirage 3, S3 Chrome, x200) with premium content disabled. :highfive: Originally by: Popperr I resent the insinuation that we have intelligence, artificial or otherwise.
Chancellor Martok Caldari IMPERIAL BROTHERHOOD OF KLINGON WARRIORS	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:34:00 - [238] Wow, can I come live in your reality cause yours sounds so much better than mine.... How many people playing eve have everything turned off including sound due to EVE's inability to work with most sounds cards made in the last 6 years. How about fixing the lag that hits every 15 seconds when you have more than 2 chat channels open. How about fixing the disappearing gates and ships, that tbh didn't happen to me till you loaded a fix. Gotta love that one. How about fixing the omg many other documented known issues and problems before you slide in another patch that will take 4-6 months to work the bugs out that it cause's. Is it that important to destroy the ability of another unknown percentage of your player base to actually play the game. How about giving us a CUSTOMER SUPPORT that actually supports the customer. How about actually setting up a CUSTOMER SUPPORT team that supports your paying customers ability to get a problem sorted rather than wait 3 or 4 years like the problem with POS's that you the Dev's of this game knew about but did nothing about for all this time. Then punish the player base by calling them cheats. How about make the game you have work now, I for one do not give one iota about your new look, how about getting the one you have now. TO ACTUALLY WORK.
Mell Anders	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:35:00 - [239] I am using a MacBook Pro CoreDuo (not Core2Duo). I'm running Leopard 10.5.6 and run EVE, obviously, through the Transgaming translator. While I have an onboard ATI Radeon x-1600 (capable of SM3), I currently can not run the Premium graphics. The Classic environment works fine "in space" while the "in-station" environments are, shall we say, not pretty. How will this affect me?
Mikalya Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.01.14 00:36:00 - [240] Originally by: Xailia Right now you can run the Premium Client on any GMA9xx computer (or Mirage 3, S3 Chrome, x200) with premium content disabled. No you can't. My Lenovo T60 won't (GMA945/950). The installer won't accept it and copying the install from a known good machine crashes when starting with an error.



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